Mid-Weight Motorcycles Are Taking Over | What’s the BIG Deal?

[@PisgahGravelProject]

A t7 is 450+ pounds/ the t7 world raid is 487 pounds To me its easy to classify bikes into each category Single cylinder sub 650cc= dual sport. These bikes are great on trails, but suck on the highway. Typically these bikes have a 100ish mile range. Examples, crf300rally-crf450rl-ktm500-drz400-dr650-klx300 ect ect Middle weight adv bike 700-900cc. These bikes are typically the most compromise of all categories. They can do single track with the right guy on it, but you can ride it across country. Twin cylinder, Good wind protection, comfortable seat, 200ish mile range. Examples: transalp, t7, 800DE, ktm lc8c powered bikes, ect ect Heavy weight adv bike=900-1300cc. These bikes are typically better on road than offroad. Typically weight 500-600pounds, 225+mile range, great wind protection, super comfortable, heated grips, seats, cruise control ect ect are features the high end bikes. examples triumph tiger explorer 1200, bmw gs(a) r1200/r1250/r1300, Africa Twin, KTM1090-1390, SuperTenere1200 ect ect I think weight of the bike is overly exaggerated in a sense. My t7 is harder to pick up, and is way more top heavy than my 800DE. The t7 isnt balanced as well, is more uncomfortable ect ect. For context, im 43, 170pounds, 6ft. Which age or rider and theor height andnweight is a determining factor when bike shopping. After 20years racing mx and then harescrambles, i hung up the gear. Couldnt take it, and decided ill get 1 do it all bike. After test riding and researching for a year i purchased the t7 when i debuted. I was ok offroad, but had its problems. The brakes and clutch sucked, and they put a street bike engine into an adv frame and ran the exhaust under the oil pan. That raised the center of gravity 4.6inches. That makes it the most top heavy in its class. Riden aggressively it gets about 150miles to the tank-and is no more comfortable than a true dual sport. Then decided to get 2 bikes= a little bit more comfortable mid sized adv bike, and a dual sport. Keeping the t7 as a buddy bike, but got an 800de and crf450rl. Decent combo. I was skeptical about the DE, but its closest bike to compare it to is the T7World Raid Both have the exact same suspension diameter (43mm) travel at 220mm, fuel capacity (5.3gl/23liters) Their differences The World Raid has 3/8ths of an inche more ground clearance, looks better, and is 20pounds lighter than the DE DE has more rider aids, is more comfortable, is uglier, but has a 3 piece frame, fitted with an 18inch aftermarket wheel imstead of the 17inch stock wheel, which brings the ground clearance to 1/8th inch more than the T7WR. The DE has 10hp more, standard quick shift. Fitted with a lithium battery, aftermarket exhaust the DE is the same weight as the T7WR, but has more power, tech and is more comfortable. Heres the real kicker- my standard T7 actually feels heavier on the road and the trail because of the streetbike engine sitting so high, wereas Suzuki built the 800 platform as an adv bike engine and then put it in a streetbike, instead of the opposite. If the Yamahas powerplant was designed to sit 5inches lower while still having the groumd clearance it has, the T7 would be the king of adv bikes. Period. Its just WAY too top heavy for the average rider to be able handle it safely- especially if the rider is a senior citizen, or 5-7 135pounds. Sure there are ALWAYS exceptions, i am not talking about the outliers, i am talking averages. Great video. Great topic. Lets really get the comments section talking..... What is considered "offroad" -anything but pavement? OR -groomed midwest 4×4 trails? OR -rocky mountain single track? OR -USFS/BLM gravel roads? Again, its another subjective topic without objective parameters. Everyone has their owm opinion on what 'offroad' is. In my experience, those definitions are different depending upon a riders ability, talent level and experience. Take that as you will.

[@ReconMotoMedia]

All good points. Thanks for taking the time to leave the in-depth comment

[@BlackdogADV]

I have a BMW 1200GS and a Husqvarna 701. I’m 75 now and the BMW is too heavy and the 701 too tall. I’m thinking about something in the 450 range that has around a 32” seat. Honda NX500, CFMoto 450, Royal Enfield Himalayan 452, KTM 390 Adventure, not sure yet.

[@backcountry4life]

I think my ‘18 triumph tiger 800 XCa is a true ADV.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

I have a Tuareg 660 with 4,500 miles on it. Purchased January of this year. Zero issues or warranty claims. I’ve done 250-300 mile days on it. In pure comfort. With heated grips and cruise control. With 50-70% dirt ratio on those miles and sometimes the dirt is what most would consider dual sport or dirt bike terrain. My other bike I’ve owned since new is a 2016 Beta 300 RR. Before I got the Tuareg I’d been strictly in the dirt my entire life and never owned a street bike of any kind. Honestly I wish hadn’t waited so damn long to get into adventure riding. But I think the idea of one bike to do it all will always leave you sacrificing and “wanting more” in a certain area. Having 2 bikes or N+1 really is the ticket. It took me a lot of hard work to get to the point in my life where I could afford/justify more than one. Terrific discussion and I enjoyed the conversation. Honestly the “perfect” do it all bike will be different for everyone. No two people have the same wants/likes and expectations or the same goals or ride the same terrain. We live in amazing times for adventure riding, consumers are literally spoiled for choice with all the bikes on the market and about to be released.

[@DeaconLucas1]

XR or DR 650 are great platforms for an adventure build.

[@steveeichelberger806]

What the hell is this? KZbin content that isn’t some ‘professional motorcycle reviewer’ sugar coating a press bike he rode for an hour? Talking about bikes that came out in the 1990’s like they are still relevant today in the same sentence where you talk about bikes with fuel injection, ABS, traction control and cruise control? What has happened to my KZbin feed? Some actual worthwhile content? It can’t be!! Thanks guys, you are what motorcycle enthusiasts need more of.

[@MattRhodes_Music]

As someone in the plains where the closest single track is more than 2.5 hours away, I picked CB500x. Long service intervals, incredibly comfortable, off-road capable enough for my local terrain. Also want to say just super excited about this channel's future and would love to see some community set up where we can find others to ride and connect with as the channel grows.

[@POLEXICANHUSSAR]

When I got my KTM 500 I used Malcolm Smiths advice. If you got 100 bucks to spend on your bike, spend 99 bucks on suspension. Also, If i want comfort in the long haul, I have a Street Glide :P

[@wXGuitarLoverXw]

The Kove 800x pro being the lightest 2 cylinder adv bike on the market right now is really promising. Kove proved to be capable and reliable with their 450 rally and I think they'll do the same with the 800.

[@ynotjf]

I’m 67 riding a 1996 DR650, it weighs less fully loaded with all my camping gear than a T7 (or any of the 450lb mid weight bikes) do empty. It’s a great BDR bike and if I get in trouble on a hard single track section, I strip off my panniers and camping gear and presto, the bush pig is 350lbs again. I’d love a modern fuel injected powerful bike that’s comfortable on the pavement but I’m just not strong enough to lift these modern beast up if I fall over in the dirt.

[@paulcamino5034]

I agree after your solo on a 450lb bike , drop it 3 time within a hour things go south very fast, DR is a very good choice

[@roberteddy1951]

+++ on the DR650 being a great starting point for building a adv bike.

[@natem9161]

Love my 2024 KLR650. It’s still the best all around bike, especially for the money. Accessories are abundant and affordable.

[@ReconMotoMedia]

Agreed! Very had to beat the KLR

[@mountainlife1165]

I have a 23 Klr adventure…great all around. My biggest issue with bike is the handlebar vibration at highway speeds. I’m 60 years old so my beat up joints feel the vibes more than the younger guys. I also runny super tenere 1200 and love that but I don’t think I’ll sell the Klr. Kind of grown attached to it. Love the 50 plus mpg.

[@natem9161]

@@mountainlife1165I really got lucky with mine. I don’t get the vibrations in the handlebars or the foot pegs and run it between 65 and 70 for decent stretches.

[@ronniecox5131]

I have a 2023 klr650s that I have done the cobdr, chatt bdr, and the Smokey Mountain 500, it really is a stout , reliable bike. I am 75 and love riding it.

[@OvDirtMoto]

I’m building out my YZ450F. It’s got a 2.6 gal tank (stock is 1.6) and it’ll get me over 100 miles. It’s got a big enough stator to run a good light. I plan on trying to complete the Idaho BDR on it. Ultimately though, having more than one bike is the best way. I know most can’t afford it (including me). You are going to be much safer and have a better experience on a bike that’s dedicated to one facet of riding.

[@ReconMotoMedia]

Agreed. The right tool for the job is probably best rather than using a multitool

[@garydossett6688]

Loving my Himalayan 450 right now.

[@jlc6290]

My answer to this was a Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. Leaned a bit into styling, but I think it does do everything pretty well. I think the XE version would probably be even better, more travel and a bit more capable off road. Tons of torque, proven engine. The main drawback is weight, at 500 lbs wet. But for 500 lbs you get 81 ft-lbs of torque in 1200ccs. Well the other drawback is price. But man they look sexy. Haven't ridden enough bikes to be able to speak to weight distribution, it might be kinda top heavy. Worth checking out though.

[@robertmills794]

I've been riding for more than 45 years,.. as a kid a 125 did the job after the 90 was too small,.. graduated to a 600 (1985 Ninja) back when the litre bike was a huge bike to be feared. I think the 450 class twin cylinder bikes are going to be a game changer as far as "do-it-all" bikes. I hope BMW makes the 450GS,.. and I an on my second R1200GS , sold my 1190 ADV R for being too top heavy. The T7 is notoriously top heavy, reliable, under-sprung for most people. The KTM 790/890 adv r is not top heavy,.. but then again it's knocking on a litre bike again,.. still 500lbs,.. The other option is the Honda 300 rally,.. It's going to need suspension F/R if you're over 160lbs in gear or want to carry a load. The KLR and XR are super simple, tall, heavy, and needs a lot of mods to make it work for adv specs. These reasons are driving towards 450 range, twin cylinder and light enough to spring heavy enough to handle single track and highway work,.. Agreed there never will be a "perfect" bike for all conditions and terrains,.. I have hopes the next gen of 450 holds some magical tricks,.. it'll need suspension (what doesn't for real adv work?) I'll never again trust a KTM/Husky/GasGas as reliable for way off the beaten path work.

[@steveeichelberger806]

Like you I’ve been riding 50 years. Mini bikes, three wheelers, dirt bikes, sport bikes, UJM’s, trials bikes. No Harley or big touring bike experience. I got into the ADV scene with a BMW F 800GS. Unless you went for a KTM, there just wasn’t much out there in that size at the time. I knew I would prefer something more street oriented than the KTM’s. I still had KTM two strokes for offroad. The 800 had awfully soft suspension and the seat sucked. I swapped out the springs for something that wouldn’t fall on its face the minute you got off a well maintained gravel road, a Sergent Enduro seat, some crash protection, ditch the BMW Vario luggage for some Wolfman soft luggage (the OG made in America stuff) add some good tires and it was a fun, comfortable bike that did a lot things pretty decent. I guess it must be one of favorite bikes over the years since I’ve owned it 15 years now. I’ve never owned any street licensed bike that long. After a few years of barely riding, and most of my riding buddies moving on to other interests, I was getting the bug again to ride. I wanted to explore the local backroads and gravel roads. I bought a Honda CRF 300 Rally. After one ride I was so disappointed with the suspension that I had a new shock and spring ordered within a week. It is a perfectly capable bike for what I wanted, very fuel efficient, low maintenance, comfortable, and completely boring. 😂 I now own a BMW R1250 GS and a KTM 500 EXC I got from a friend who can’t ride anymore. Neither one of those bikes are boring! I guess I don’t really have a point other than choices are good! And there are more options than ever. My 10 year old KTM 500 EXC is probably the most fun, most basic, and cheapest (value wise) bike I own. Go figure.

[@AT2021Rocker]

Dual sport and mid size adv are two different things imho. I don’t think you really do adv trips (where there could be significant distances on hwy or dirt) on a dual sport. A 500-600 cc bike with electronics, 6th gear and 350kms range is pretty close.

[@backcountry4life]

Agree 💯

[@ewganhoff]

Wait... There's no way the new 390 is making 60hp. Did I miss something?

[@darren1922]

I have a ktm 790 Adventure R. It's the best bike I've ever owned. I have had bmw, triumph, and all the Japanese brands. Ktm has raw power and so balanced and nimble.

[@actionjackson6892]

Just restored a 03 xr650l. I love it so far with jyst a few mods.Ive got an 07 KLR650 wich i enjoy but the weght difference is so noticeable on the ride. Keep in Rid'n fellas

[@glennmcguire5571]

Sold my T7 and bought a 2023 KTM 390 Adventure. So much more fun on and off road. The T7's weight was just a bear off road, at least for me since I ride alone.

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

Ditto

[@wordword6039]

Been riding for over 50 years and raced for 15. My last adventure bike I bought was a 2010 KTM 990 adventure. I set it up to do long rides and did the "heart of the west" back in 2011. Absolutely the best motorcycle I have ever had, never broke once not even a flat over a 30 day ride out in the middle of no where. Comfortable, dependable, easy to ride and plenty of power. I still have it and its still my favorite bike. I also have a great DRZ400 which I love to ride and a harley road glide i have ridden across the country several times. But the KTM 990 adventure is a bike that I compare all others to. JMO

[@ADVBrett]

Straight up the Ducati Desert X or KTM 890 Adventure R Now that I've thrown that spanner in the works, it's great to see you guys doing this!! Love the channel and the discussion!! You've got me hooked! Subscribed!!

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

Both Top heavy . Had the Norden, took 25 minutes to pick it up once. Not all dumps are flat. Hills suck

[@justinkoch1054]

Drz-400 with race tech suspension has been the ultimate mid weight adv bike for me. Living in a suburban area I don’t do long highway stretches and trailer to most trails. Small enough to keep up with ktms on single track If you’re a decent rider while being ultra reliable.

[@cthomps]

Coming up on 10 years with my drz. Love the thing. It's a tank.

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

I’ve been researching bikes for months now. I’ve m looking at a DRZ on Tuesday that will likely be my next purchase. The mid-weights dont appeal to me because they arent really good on the highway and they aren’t really good on the dirt. I consider the DRZ to be a lightweight adventure bike. I want a bike that is really good at something. 🤷

[@justinkoch1054]

@@E_Clampus_Vitus totally agree. You’ll love the Drz for that. I lived in Moab Utah for years and that bike was a weapon for exploring all the land out there

[@paulcamino5034]

good choice I owned a drz400e with a plate for a year.

[@paulcamino5034]

@@E_Clampus_Vitus the new 2025 DRZ is coming out soon, I think the 3 best choices CRF300, KLX300 DRZ400

[@dylan8394]

buying a KLR 650 adventure next week. My first bike and introduction to this space. Great video. thanks.

[@ComfyDadShoes]

One of the 3 kings XR/DR/KLR modded to your specs seems to be the way!

[@msims1250]

I’m really interested in the Ibex 450. I’ve got money down on one at my dealer. I think it’s going to be a fun bike to play around on, and at $6500, it won’t hurt my feelings to drop it, like dropping my 1250 GS would. Great video you guys. I appreciate your perspective.

[@timmcpherson9384]

Great info fellas, from an old guy riding an AT thinking about downsizing 😉

[@Eds_PanAm]

56yr old here, just got into dual sports a couple yrs ago, adv bikes about 5yrs ago, love my pan am, i can crush miles on a highway and gravel and fire roads are no issue, with that being said, I do not want to pick it up in the woods lol found a dealer with a couple brand new 23 701's, small old school shop, he does alot for racers in the area, i got the bike a little over 2k off msrp, i'm vertically challenged at 5'7, so had him lower it a bit with a suspension set up, I've added a few other tidbits for now, but its winter in Ohio, so I will do more next year, everytime I ride that thing off road I always think, this was a helluva purchase, its o fun, and I gotta admit, I use that quick shifter off road all the time, but being a husky, you have to keep up on the maint, its just higher performance, your not gonna be able to chuck it in the corner after every ride and do nothing to it, like ya'll said, it would be hard to choose just one bike, I do like the T7, but would like sealed wheels with it....I do not mind tubes, but I'm just at the point where I do not want to fix tires on the side of the road, I've checked out the Tubliss brand for inside the wheel, gonna check out those ball inserts at taco moto you were talking about....the ONLY thing that concerns me about the husky is dealers are few and far between.......anyway, I'll shut up lol. sláinte!

[@lastsonofkrypton36]

The CRF300L Rally. It's so nice and light off-road, and cruises along nicely on the highway. Aftermarket support is great, and the reliability is Honda-level. All for

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

I’ve had KLR, F800, 1200 GS, 901Norden. All killer, all heavy pigs. Have the 390 ADV now. Looking forward to the 450 BMW & the 390 Rally. The current 390 is 365 lbs. the T7 is 450lbs or more. Also, the Aprillia 660 is light-ish & gets great reviews.

[@ZeLogicnator5k]

In Montana/Wyoming, for a mid weight adv dual sport, I would consider a Honda 450rl. Dealer access, reliability (new KTMs aren't bad depending on the model year, but it's still not a Honda), stronger subframe, etc. Mob Moto has a good comparison video on it vs the 500exc. Work Smarter, Not Harder after all....hahaha It'll be my next plated bike after riding that and the FE501. If Kove proves reliable till then and there is more dealer support, it may be a Kove. But the Ultra Bee looks too fun to pass up for enduro (+ 90% less maintenance), so a 450 will have to wait. Plated, I have a 350, 701e, and 890 advr so don't really need a 450 right now, too much overlap. KTMs have been discounted lately though so may be a good option. I've seen 2024 500s for like $8k.

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

Way too much maintenance.

[@S_fromm43]

Mid weight bikes that are OG and for good reason: DR650 KLR650 XR650L These bikes have such a wide capability, mods and parts for days, dead simple to work on, and they’re cheap bikes to pick up. Are they the best at anything? No. But damn they’re work horses!

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

Seriously. Costs of long term ownership becomes more important each day as this economy continues to crumble. If you’re rich, buy an Italian bike. Or a BMW. When it breaks down, just pay someone else to fix it. Easy peasy. If you aren’t Joe Moneybags, you better wake up quick. 😂

[@RonOrud]

Im 61 and love my 390 adventure. It is a spicy fun little bike. Ot can handle the interstate and fire roads. It isnt perfect for single track, but can handle it if you have the skill. The new adventure R will be great

[@danmackinnon9961]

I had DRZ400 set up for adventure riding. Did NEBDR on it. Nice on single track trails but not pleasant on road. Bought Aprilia Tuareg 660 in 2022 and love it great bike for mix of on and off road

[@alexmoreno8156]

You can get away with a 450-500 lbs adventure bike for most BDRs. But really the 690/701/700 (350lbs wet) are the ideal size, weight, and power for all BDRs. If you struggle to pick it up by yourself fully loaded, it’s too big for you.

[@kevinbrock1323]

Just got a Tenere 700 and a KTM 690. The 690 feels like my crf450R on the road. Tenere feels awesome but heavier.

[@mikvit6150]

I own a Pan America and a Norden 901, PA for more adv touring and the Norden for more offroad. Using Motoz Tractionator GPS for the PA and for the Norden I use Motoz Tractionator adventure. Looking forward to the new KTM 390 ADV coming out!

[@greyfisher3897]

Good discussion, progressive and moving beyond the nit picking trending videos. Bottom line in my view, is that the evolution of these types of bikes is "mid" stroke. The next 5 or 10 years of R&D in the industry will no doubt produce solutions to the market range. Back to simplicity, and affordability to bring more riders into the market, dealing with the weight concerns for many riders, and reliability, dealer support, ease of maintenance etc. Going back in time, while moving forward. It will be interesting to see the Yamaha evolve its Tenere, the XR/DR evolution, and Kawasaki KLR evolution. I still see the japanese brands leading the way....in response to the Chinese models showing us all how it can be done cheaper, and lighter, and still perform very well, etc. My go to's are a DRZE modified to street legal, here in Canada, still goes well after 22 years of ownership, and my 3 year old T7. At 60 I don't dare take the T7 on any serious off road, made it more a street bike, even though I am a championed enduro rider in my youth, instead ripping the single track on my DRZE, on a new set of Pirelli MT43's. The good news is I haven't dropped either of them....and they both are "reliable" beyond belief.

[@markjacobs3956]

I have a new Himalayan 450. It goes down the freeway at 80 mph easily and climbs like a goat. The only drive back is it's a little heavy but is easy to pick up because of how it holds its weight. I've owned everything at age 60. It is a KLR killer, IMO.

[@DualSportDiscovery]

DR 650 ( bush pig ) a legend of a bike

[@shannonstiles8751]

I just bought myself a KLR 650 it already had quite a bit of upgrades that I would’ve done myself and only 2300 miles on it. I’m currently adding more lights luggage and suspension upgrades

[@falsekings-p9z]

I think 600 cc or 650cc is the sweet spot. Not too heavy but enuff power in bigger gravel roads .Aprilia looks good for me here in Europe but here Honda or Suzuki offer nothing ( only 800cc both).

[@TedLeenerts]

What about the Ibex 800 T? Seems like a great bang for the buck.

[@rwetmore2386]

I love my Husky 701!

[@drewstooksbury1576]

I’m riding a Pan America, I ride the roads a lot and occasionally fire roads, nothing extreme off-road, although I would love to have more of that capability. I did get Moskos and a few other add-ons but I do agree that something like the T7 would have probably been a great option for someone like me who needs a true hybrid bike. At this point I have what I have and am just adapting the Pan to serve my needs as best it can. May be looking at something more mid-sized like a Norden 901 or T7 when it’s time for e new bike.

[@curtkautsch]

the perfect bike, is 3 bikes.

[@johnnypena5273]

I have a dr 650 and it not so comfortable but it gets the job done but dream bike is a T7

[@johnnylong2049]

How about the Himalayan 450 or the nx500? Many other I guess we an call it lightweight adv

[@twowheelboomer]

Bought my DR650 for $7034.34. Rebuilt it, soup to nuts, for another 2750 maybe and I have a dope-ass mid weight ADV for under 10 Gs.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Street legal version of the Kove 450R Rally feels like the BDR killer I'm looking for.

[@PaulCsomething]

Ktm 500 does everything. Some of those things is does great.

[@paulcamino5034]

Everybody will have different ideal on best middle weight adventure bike, depends on you age, size, skill level, solo or group rides, I really started at 55 with a cheap little 2013 wr290r highly modified 280lb for off road or dual sport, rode all the north east coast events with guys with every kind of bike but all basically they had under 350cc and orange, I am 65 now, owned, rode or rented many of plated dirt bike, 1500 vulcan, road king, yz250fx, drz400e, ktm200exc, ktm500, beta350 390, tenere 700, gs1250, gs800, crf300rally, klx250, first for me off road it has to be under 300lb, smooth motor that will pull like tractor below idle without a flame out, under 36" seat, cruise roads under 65mph all day, I learned on the interstate all bikes suck at 80mph for hours at a time period, my best bike is the 2013 wr290r that has 35000mi now, it checks all the blocks, its has the most comfortable seat, bar, peg, setup your knees are not bent and back not bent forward, all i do 55mph posted back roads and ride 60-65 now, I like mix now, some gnarly single tracks just to get some blood flow, jeep roads, twisty paved road, country back roads, try not to hit any interstate and its more fun and enjoyable,

[@mikaelhgn1]

Holy shot my worlds are colliding right now what the hell.

[@robert8342-w7x]

I love my KTM LC4 640. I would like to ride the KTM 690 to see how it compares. The 690 is supposed to ride better on the highway, which I wish the LC4 did better at.

[@ReconMotoMedia]

Kyle here, I used to own a 640 and loved it, however it was a vibrating monster on the highway. The 690 is waaaay smoother on the pavement,but the 640 is more of a dirt bike off-road

[@robert8342-w7x]

@ReconMotoMedia I agree 100%.

[@MedeJeanMoto]

The only answer is the 890 ADV R

[@terryharink8671]

N+1 Rule! N being the number of bikes you currently have. Its like the mountain bike world, there is no true one bike does all. My goal is to buy one for each day of the week lol

[@d.r.penkert1429]

Yamaha needs to build a YZF WR 600!

[@JC-gj1gg]

DR650, if set up right these bikes are bulletproof and you don’t need a computer to rebuild on the trail

[@johnnypena5273]

What about the Dr 650

[@thewhopper411]

I'm eyeing these 400 lbs and under adventure bike......good power-to-weight ratio.....good reliability.... DR-Z4S (not DRZ400) - 2025 333 lbs wet 38 hp 27.3 ft-lbs (unknown reliability) Kove 800X Rally - 2025 364 lbs dry 94 hp 59 ft-lbs (unknown reliability) Suzuki DR650 360 lbs wet 43.5 hp 39.8 ft-lbs (great reliability) Honda XR650L 360 lbs wet 34 hp 31.4 ft-lbs (great reliability) I'm waiting to see what Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Honda come up with......

[@cliftonsr]

Don’t skip the best one on this subject, and I’m so surprised it’s so overlooked, it’s the KTM 890 Adventure the non R or sometimes called the S model, it is better on the highway and is easier to go places that the taller less balanced bikes can go, and it has as much power as the R model and the 2023-up model has out of the box the best suspension of any of the midsized bikes that you mentioned for what your using the adventure bike for in your podcast,and it has a 2 year warranty, duh.

[@jamesdalton-n6m]

Sounds like Suzuki has updated the DRZ400S with fuel injection and upside down forks🤔

[@MrToolean]

If the T7 could lose 90 lbs it would be ideal, obviously, that is very difficult. I know the MotoGeo dude lost 60lbs pretty quickly, but that was low hanging fruit.

[@murraehaynes3182]

F900GSA👍

[@operator061]

i have a honda nx 350 1997 ... my bike for apocalipse

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

At 52 and an owner of a klx 300 youre wrong about a dual sport with the exception of the seat.

[@kadven6447]

KTM is filing bankruptcy. I have 4 bikes and my go to is my 2014 KLR 650. Love the simplicity, low maintenance cost etc.. I am 60 and I like riding bikes with more horsepower like the wife's Ninja but enjoy puttin on the KLR.

[@ChristopherAdams-w4x]

Thank you so much for this amazing video! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

[@danielmiranda2457]

AJP is a Portuguese Brand

[@The10thManRules]

Tenere 700. Done.

[@ATstrmboui53]

Sorry guys, if you can't fix it (yourself) or lift it (yourself) or go 250 miles on a tank of gas and ride both dirt/rocks/sand/pavement and your most complicated electronics is electronic ignition and air cooled and less than 400lbs! You have the wrong bike! Just get the Suzuki 650 bush pig!

[@Westsidecuz01]

Compromise

[@Davidkxf]

AJP is a Portuguese bike

[@shannonstiles8751]

So KTM is filing bankruptcy, I heard?!?!?

[@thelonewolf666]

450cc is all anyone needs-- the rest is ego

[@falsekings-p9z]

Ktm 390 cc is not a great bike. Motor is terrible .It is not long lasting experience at all 😅

[@ADVBrett]

Straight up the Ducati Desert X or KTM 890 Adventure R Now that I've thrown that spanner in the works, it's great to see you guys doing this!! Love the channel and the discussion!! You've got me hooked! Subscribed!!

[@alexmoreno8156]

You can get away with a 450-500 lbs adventure bike for most BDRs. But really the 690/701/700 (350lbs wet) are the ideal size, weight, and power for all BDRs. If you struggle to pick it up by yourself fully loaded, it’s too big for you.

[@shannonstiles8751]

I just bought myself a KLR 650 it already had quite a bit of upgrades that I would’ve done myself and only 2300 miles on it. I’m currently adding more lights luggage and suspension upgrades