VR Shoe Build Log #51 - Support Rig Demo of Walking, Running, Crouching, Sitting and How It Works

[@SanguShellz]

This looks like a fun diy project for intermediary tinkerers. I can see myself building this well before I ever build a motion rig. Great job

[@sigma_z]

I have the KAT VR Kat Walk Mini (1st generation) and I have to say that your setup is not only lighter and more portable but also the movement appears to be much more natural. The only thing your VR Shoes appears not to do yet, is to be able to work while running which the KAT VR concave dome allows you to simulate, although however poorly it does it. I'm wondering, how will your VR Shoes work during side steps or strafing? Bravo for your work!

[@finallyfunctional]

...is to be able to work while running which... - what do you mean by that? If you meant strafing, yeah the vr shoes doesn't support that, maybe in the future. I tried doing some strafing when using the virtuix omni and it didn't work very well.

[@DMonZ1988]

really awesome and clever solutions, its looking absolutely fantastic! a few things come to mind that you might be interested in trying. i can't post links but the youtube channel 'geared down for what' designed and shared a 3d printed, recirculating ball bearing design for curved tracks, that you might be able to adapt. rather than normal bearings being pushed along tangents of the circular platform to travel around the edge, you could have a bearing that really conforms to the circular track and it might be smoother and more stable. alternatively but similarly, i think it could be really smooth and stable if you stacked two platform disks with round grooves routed close to the edge, sandwiching a marble/bearing carrier that conforms to the circle, basically creating a round linear rail to mount the support rig onto. between the two disks you could put sound dampening in the centre where you walk maybe making the whole thing a little quieter.

[@finallyfunctional]

Thanks, I think I found the video and I'll check it out. And yeah I think stacking two platform disks like that could work too.

[@caydeandyt3433]

It’s looking amazing your doing great

[@5FSF]

if you extend the mounting points on the top of the bars connecting the base to the harness further out from you it should be a lot easier to both turn and walk although it might make it easier to hit the bars if you were to swing your arms down behind your waist for whatever reason. If they were completely perpendicular to the wheel I think you could rotate very easily, although the means by which they support the harness might have to change as well.

[@finallyfunctional]

I'm not sure if it will be easier. You're basically saying to the long conduit be vertical instead of slanted? Or are you saying to spread the two vertical conduit that slides through the pipe crosses for crouching? For making the long conduit vertical instead of slanted, I think you're still strapped to the two vertical conduit for sliding, which are still very close to the middle, so you're still turning from the middle and don't get as much leverage. If the conduit for crouching was spread out...maybe it would be better.

[@5FSF]

@@finallyfunctional Vertical instead of slanted, yes. It isn't that you are increasing your leverage as much as that you would be increasing the slope time of the travel overall and allowing your body's inertia to take on the rotational force instead of doing it entirely rigidly and with like muscle force. I think the easiest way to describe it would be the difference between waving a weight back and forth in your hand vs waving it on the end of a short rope. You put in less manual force and then inertia takes over, its less controlled but the travel time is elongated. Eventually it becomes easier to manage a pattern than think about the movement strain. I think it would make it easier for you to turn and the entire rig turning would be smoother. It may seem a little bit less reactive but that could be a pro and not a con, maybe giving some time between input and feedback would make it feel easier to subconsciously offload, suspend your disbelief about that you have to push a harness around. Hard to tell without testing it personally. It would make the system behave more similarly while crouching although that is not something I was trying to address as much as resistance while turning.

[@DavidLeeMenefee]

I love it as well, keep up the great work.

[@kuyabam]

You look like mr beast and dr strange at the same time! That’s crazy!!!

[@spureous]

Have you considered using the metal hoop from a small second hand trampoline for the base ring. It would be stronger and have no warp. Also instead of straps that hold the rear upright you could use metal curving around and connecting to base almost 90 degrees to the base and it would not get in the way of your heals.

[@finallyfunctional]

I haven't thought of trying to use a trampoline base ring. That might work, good suggestion, I bet it could work too, but I would like to use parts that people can just buy instead of having to go search for second had parts.

[@NextGenVR]

@@finallyfunctional I think most people would be interested in buying this rig pre-assembled once its out on the market.

[@NextGenVR]

I'm not an expert or engineer, but I have a suggestion for potentially solving the walking while turning issue. What if you strap yourself to the rig backwards? Basically so that the 2 support poles and the moving rig piece are in front of you rather than behind. This might help because then most of the weight of the rig would be in front of you and by walking forward you might create enough force to make turning easier. I know this would introduce other issue like having pieces of metal in front of your face, but you could lower the height. As for the V shaped rope, you could have that directly attached to a free harness on your back to even out the forces. Ease of turning probably depends on if an individual has a strong back or a strong chest. Another idea: Instead of having the support rig either behind or in front of you. What if you split it in two and have one support rig on the left side of your body and one support rig on the right side of your body?

[@finallyfunctional]

Yeah I wouldn't really like having all that metal and stuff in front of me/the user. I believe some of the remaining resistance to turning is because the two corners right next to where the rig is connected to the ocotogon are taking a lot of strain. They flex a bit when using the rig. I think if I can take the strain off of the corners and 3D printed parts, and transfer the weight and forces to the metal components, it will turn better.

[@santiagomariani5309]

Awesome work!

[@rmbet]

This is awesome!

[@zlico1]

Love it

[@lowrentchef7497]

Loving the progress! So much good stuff going on here. Do you notice the amount of wiggling the platform does while using it, or is it not really noticeable when you're in game? Either way, awesome work!

[@ParadoxDetected]

When you’re walking on this, does it feel like walking, or is it similar to walking, but not quite, like those slippy bowl vr systems?

[@finallyfunctional]

It's not completely natural. It takes some practice and a little time to get used to. Even so I find it fun and feels close to walking.

[@jeanroger3506]

it seems less reliable (like if it could break easily) than your previous celling system; but it's interesting to see anyway

[@onbekend1631]

but it do be more portable

[@skjonas]

How well is the carpet on the platform working? It looks like it is bunching up and I would guess that it is pretty annoying. Do you notice with the shoes on?

[@finallyfunctional]

I don't notice it. I have it stapled down and need to add more staples. I basically added the minimum amount of staples because I've taken the carpet off a few times now and it's a pain to take all the staples out. Once I'm for sure that I'm leaving it on, I'm putting a lot more staples in it.

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

what was the spring in originally?.... im guessing a tape measure?

[@finallyfunctional]

I bought it from McMaster-Carr.

[@RidgeVR]

okay, now feet tracking? once theres feet tracking I build one

[@finallyfunctional]

The rig still needs improvements but I'll try to get to feet tracking soon.

[@riddhisiddhi9604]

Hi sir, Please make a video full details of wiring connection of shoes controller with Arduino codes . I watched all your videos . But there is no wiring connection details. Please make a video about it. Thank you sir.

[@daudhtm5203]

nice shirt!

[@lawrencepathik1580]

Intrested to make please help

[@MikeypoloVR]

Do u have a discord ? And can I get access to the DIY guide? Even if it’s not complete

[@finallyfunctional]

I don't have a guide for this yet. Discord link is in the video description.

[@MikeypoloVR]

@@finallyfunctional bet joining now!

[@ruimiranda3548]

Why dont you make a Virtuix Omni One treadmill with vr shoes, also use the vr shoes wide enough to use normal shoes on top of it so you dont have to take the shoes of

[@dewaronald1027]

gimana cara belinya?

[@delvinfourcand300]

release the tutorial

[@finallyfunctional]

I will when it's ready.

[@medad5502]

If you live an appartement, RIP :p