I've never done a match that was so factually on par. Anakin and Mace, complete and utter peers. The Guardians of the Republic. Who wins? Like me on Facebook! / youtubeantoinebandele Follow me on Twitter! / antoinebandele
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@xProGamerC78 жыл бұрын
Just try to imagine how powerful Anakin would have become if he wouldn't had turned into Vader. I mean he was only 23 and was able to face Dooku and Windu... He would have been so fu**ing BADASS...
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Indeed. That is of course the tragedy of Anakin.
@EverestBlizzard5 жыл бұрын
How powerful he would become is essentially what legends Luke became, and that was badass.
@didimean5 жыл бұрын
And sadly, now its the complete opposite in Disney's canon...Luke was about the equivalent to a hobo with a little power in the force
@sebas82255 жыл бұрын
If he had become windu´s padawan and completed his training he would´ve been absolute.
@michaelfleming49945 жыл бұрын
Anakin was already the clone war Kobe via mission rating, killed dooku, and massacred a whole village by the age of 23 so it is obvious he would've been up there with malgus power.
@TheFuryProduction9 жыл бұрын
Prediction: Mace will win because Anakin never reached his full potential. Also mace was more seasoned and had more experience.
@TheFuryProduction9 жыл бұрын
+TheFuryProduction ;)
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
Sorta kinda. Basically.
@gkay88896 жыл бұрын
TheFuryProduction its really close on who would actually win
@j.o.72446 жыл бұрын
TheFuryProduction so did dooku
@j.o.72446 жыл бұрын
But look......what happened to him
@zacqueeentertainment73368 жыл бұрын
My top requests for lightsaber battles... 1. Cinn Dralig vs Count Dooku 2. Anakin vs Darth Maul 3. Darth Vader vs Darth Maul 4. Kit Fisto vs Obi-wan Kenobi 5. General Grevious vs Darth Maul
@Sh0cKwavE__8 жыл бұрын
FN 2187 edit: jar jar binks vs sidious
@Sh0cKwavE__8 жыл бұрын
FN 2187 edit: jar jar binks vs sidious
@thefightinggameplayer7 жыл бұрын
Ben Hoang That was done as an April Fool's day video
@nich617 жыл бұрын
Asa Ali yes definitely anakin v darth maul
@xavierhall1857 жыл бұрын
Kit fitso bested Kenobi Maul bested Grevious Vader bested Maul
@anakinskywalker5878 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you even questioned my power by putting me aside this weak Jedi. Ask him how his arm is
@Matthew-up6dq8 жыл бұрын
Well, he had the high grand!
@tylerwilliams30738 жыл бұрын
He'll yeah Anakin Skywalker would slice off his paw and gut him
@Matthew-up6dq8 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Williams you're forgetting the fact that, Mace is almost as strong as Yoda
@tylerwilliams30738 жыл бұрын
And Anakin Skywalker is the chosen one
@tonybenedetti48998 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Williams yeah but he didn't reach his potential
@BlackWingedSeraphX8 жыл бұрын
I think Anakin would lose the same way he did to Obi-Wan. His emotions and arrogance leave him unfocused and open to mistakes.
@schocktrooper75575 жыл бұрын
I read Obi Wan emotes over Anakin...
@Orto-jj2di5 жыл бұрын
Mace is no obi wan.
@williamryder84974 жыл бұрын
BlackWingedSeraph This has nothing to do with emotions, Mace Windu is just simply the greater duelist than Skywalker, that was the same case with Obi-Wan vs Anakin.
@georgbergsten60503 жыл бұрын
@@Orto-jj2di No he is far superior
@Orto-jj2di3 жыл бұрын
@@georgbergsten6050 yep that's why anakin truly defeats him in office, he has advantages that Mace does not
@TheBerchie9 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele, "And thus; I declare Mace Windu, the Master of the Order, the badass motherf*cker of lightsaber combat. The battered, bruised, and broken victor." And then Darth Sidious, who is still watching this, walks over and kills Mace Windu....
@neometalsonic35629 жыл бұрын
+TheBerchie Exactly!
@neometalsonic35629 жыл бұрын
MostachoPON3 I don't sidious would let him
@neometalsonic35629 жыл бұрын
MostachoPON3 He isn't going to escape because sidious would force grip the exhausted warior. He isn't going to win after just fighting Anakin. Sidious 90% of the time is smarter than him
@neometalsonic35629 жыл бұрын
MostachoPON3 Count Dooku knows force grip and he wouldn't have learned it from the jedi because I believe that was a dark side ability so Sidious probably taught him. Also Mace Windu struggles to face Sidious when in good ahape, after that battle, he wouldn't be that great.
@DaniilBaykov0079 жыл бұрын
+Metal Sonic Force Grip is neutral ability, like Force Push. Basics are the same, but Jedi wouldn't use it in a way, that is designed for killing. That doesn't mean they can't.
@cameronmiller65149 жыл бұрын
Anakin's arrogance would truly be his down fall even his master pointed it out and then his over reliance on tip toeing into the dark side would easily be exploited by Windu's Vaapad
@EricGraham949 жыл бұрын
Anakin's arrogance may be his downfall, but remember - his rage is what focuses and empowers him.
@cameronmiller65149 жыл бұрын
+Eric Graham true but dont you think Windu's ability to turn rage and anger back on his opponent makes S kywalkers rage a bigger weakness than a advantage
@crazyscotsman93278 жыл бұрын
+twinsofsanity Yes but that isn't how Anakin fights, he goes all out hard and dominating.
@crazyscotsman93278 жыл бұрын
+twinsofsanity I wasn't saying that he doesn't have control and finesse cause he does, but during a fight he presses the attack he is an offensive powerhouse that tries to sweep aside all infront of him, unfortunately for him he couldn't sweep someone like Windu aside. If Anakin had more control of his emotions and was more disciplined then I have no doubt he would have been more powerful then Windu, but then again if he had that control and discipline... He wouldn't have become Darth Vader.
@xavierhall1858 жыл бұрын
+Josh Campbell True, true
@The_Space_Born9 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Mace probably had the most painful physical deaths in the entire Star Wars saga. Mace has his hand sliced off, screams in agony while being blasted with force lightning and then gets hurled down several miles from the Chancellor's office to what looks like an endless free fall to his inevitable death. Anakin has his right arm and both of his legs sliced off, falls to the ground near a river of lava where he suffers third degree burns after his body engulfs into flames
@emperor_ivan7 жыл бұрын
The Space Born except he didn't die? He actually lived through the burns?
@lowtiersquad95535 жыл бұрын
@@emperor_ivan Anakin Skywalker died that day. While Darth Vader rose.
@yozkopf30005 жыл бұрын
@@lowtiersquad9553 So Obiwan killed Anakin to make Vader rise
@Orto-jj2di4 жыл бұрын
Guess Anakin has a slightly better tenacity
@thedutchwolf974 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Windu was already dead by the time he went flying down. That last sound he made was his left breath leaving his body.
@DarthKieduss8 жыл бұрын
25:57 I died laughing when you said "Anakin wants nothing more than to fuck Windu up."
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
;-)
@migueljonz39012 жыл бұрын
And I died laughing thinking that Mace is thinking..."You need to sit da fuc down...little bee-otch!"
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Mace, complete and utter peers. The Guardians of the Republic. Who wins? Watch more Star Wars Versus Videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLDFq63aBi3_x_hhCNeHiT0xbfWUGpXl0J
@ForklifterMatt9 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele OOOHHH! I'm watching it now....
@tylerstaley26679 жыл бұрын
I have a serious question for you that only popped up just now. Qui Gonn was a well renowned member of the Jedi, which is, for all intents and purposes, a government agency, which means that they have funding, to some extent, at least. Why doesn't he have a "company credit card"or something, so that he could just purchase both shmi and Anakin
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
You know something Tyler, I always wondered that myself. M Ruhoon, the video game fight scenes were never canon. They were constructs of the game itself.
@lyconxero4579 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele I agree with most of your points except that I believe that Anakin would get the clear edge in physical ability. Just going off your example of Mace against Kar Vastor you left out the fact that Mace LOST against Kar Vastor because he simply couldn't keep going from the damage taken. I believe the same would be true in a physical sense concerning Anakin.
@lyconxero4579 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Staley If you watch the movie again, you'll realize that Qui Gon DID have 20k republic credits. It's simply that they didn't take that as valid currency on Tatooine as it's not a part of the Republic and uses a completely different currency. Just re-watch the scene between Qui Gon and the ship part seller again at around 32:18 in The Phantom Menace and you'll understand.
@stopmotionmaker62222 жыл бұрын
If anakin didn't turn, he would've gained Mace Windu's respect
@godwantsplastic5 ай бұрын
Trust… respect is harder to earn.
@KingSlayer_.2 ай бұрын
He tried for years to gain his respect and trust, but almost nothing was ever good enough for him. Even as Mace seemingly gave that respect and trust to other jedi less skilled and accomplished as him. I think Mace was jealous of Anakin, but at the same time, did have reasonable concerns for Anakins emotional issues. This is why Mace was so hostile towards him and I dont think it really helped make Anakin better and only made him closer to the darkside.
@YellowZnake9 жыл бұрын
exar kun vs revan
@Luis-up3ic9 жыл бұрын
+Alex Andersson agreed, sounds very interesting
@williamhenning47009 жыл бұрын
+Alex Andersson From what I know of Exar Kun, Revan should take it handily.
@ForklifterMatt9 жыл бұрын
+William Henning Exactly! Exar Kun is better in almost every way.
@williamhenning47009 жыл бұрын
***** I feel like you should reread my post.
@ForklifterMatt9 жыл бұрын
William Henning Sorry I misunderstood. I read it as "Exar Kun should take it handily" rather than the other way.
@vincentescolano25788 жыл бұрын
there is nothing Anakin has that windu cant handle. the same cannot be said on the opposite side.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Djem So + Youth/Reflex + Higher Raw Ability are pretty good counters.
@vincentescolano25788 жыл бұрын
mace windu could go toe to toe with freakin palpatine anakin would lose in seconds much like fisto.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpnWd5V6qbGljMk Anakin fought on par and defeated Dooku, someone who was going toe-to-toe with Yoda who went head up against Sidious. Anakin does not get stomp in any way.
@vincentescolano25788 жыл бұрын
so by that logic luminara could contend with sidious. she went toe to toe with ventress who went toe to toe with windu who went toe to toe with sidious. I hold luminara in very high regard but she is no match for palpatine. that logic simply has no weight to it.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Asajj Ventress was clearly stated by Windu to _not_ be her equal. All she managed was to do was be a challenge, nothing more.
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
*See's video on homepage* "ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!"
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
Ah shiii
@williamhenning47009 жыл бұрын
+TheNuisanceBird TNB. You're in for a ride.
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
+William Henning I've reached the end.
@williamhenning47009 жыл бұрын
TheNuisanceBird What did you think?
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
William Henning One of the best videos yet.
@justinwallace2698 жыл бұрын
Yep I think you nailed it again in this one; Anakin vs Mace is such a hard fight to do too, since they're so similar, but you got it right for sure. Mace's superior experience and the unique powers of his personal style would totally give him the edge over Anakin's lacking experience and tunnel vision methods. He's only lived long enough to become a great warrior, but not the artist that Mace is. If Anakin had maybe been 30 he might have pulled it off, but not in this case. On a side note, I'm seriously hoping they bring Mace Windu back in the new movies or anthologies, such great actor and character gone to waste in GL's prequels. I wanna some mushroom cloud laying mother fucker Mace in these movies, with better writing and more interesting direction.
@godwavenexus7 жыл бұрын
Justin Wallace 30? That's 7 years. I honestly believe Anakin could surpass him in about a year (maybe less) if he just honed his Force abilities more. He would probably be able to ragdoll Mace with just the Force at that point. He's already an amazing duelist. If he had won on Mustafar, he wouldn't have really needed to change his style.
@Orto-jj2di4 жыл бұрын
office scenario is specifically made to counter maces abilities. Palpatine wouldve helped him. Anakin was stronger in the force and equal in a debatable skill. Vaapad form wont work on light side anakin. Mace will hold back like he did with dooku at the beginning of the clone war while he was also tired from his fight with sidious.
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
Anakin still has more brute strength and is overall stronger and possibly faster too. Anakin did live long enough to become one of the greatest jedi ever and even beat Count Dooku who is one of the greatest lightsabe duelist ever. No Anakin can pull it off here.
@justinwallace269 Жыл бұрын
@@Jdudec367 Mace's youth makes it a totally different fight than the one with Dooku. Additionally, Anakin did get some help tiring the Count out before engaging him alone. I still believe Anakin would have won, and that he'd stand a strong chance of beating Windu as well, but the combination of Mace's superior experience and unique Vaapad style, plays into all of Anakin's weaknesses. Mace's ability to redirect the flow energy in battle also applies to his swordsmanship, so he has the edge. Anakin at 30 though, a clear win.
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
@@justinwallace269 Mace is in his 50s he is not super young. True, but a really aggresive style like what Anakin has could overwhelm Mace. That is a advantage but Anakin is still stronger in the force which gives him the edge.
@skittles10038 жыл бұрын
LOL It's hilarious seeing Samuel L. Jackson animated and kicking droid ass
@Jiron1278 жыл бұрын
Sidious is such a genius lol. He knew that deep down anakin wanted to destroy mace, and what better way to do than catch windu whoopin' his (sidious) ass basically. Anakin likely wouldn't have fallen so easily, had it been yoda or obi wan (as if he could disarm sidious lol). However, this fight wouldn't go so smooth for anakin. He was depicted in the rots novel by windu as being a huge shatter point. Also take into account, anakin kinda don't like windu that much. He'd use his anger to make himself stronger, and amp windu up anyway. Anakin would most certainly make a mistake lol and get owned by windu. The best possible match for windu would be dooku or maul (clone wars). Both maul and dooku have complete control over there negative emotions like rage and revenge etc. Whereas anakin would be consumed by his.
@StevenZissimos8 жыл бұрын
Windu's Vaapad would easily exploit Anakin's Dark side rage. It's what allowed him to go toe to toe with Sidious.
@Jiron1278 жыл бұрын
Steven Zissimos That's what I said lol
@Jiron1278 жыл бұрын
John Heart You literally missed what I just said in the post. Both dooku and maul have complete balance over there rage and don't let it consume them. So no, windu isn't getting much of an amp if at all vs either. Not to mention, before dooku defected, he was regarded as the best swordsman in the order, besides yoda (I think). Obi-wan has no chance vs windu lol.
@StevenZissimos8 жыл бұрын
***** they went toe to toe in Son of Dathomir.
@Jiron1278 жыл бұрын
***** He actually wouldn't. It'd be a relatively close contest, until maul likely made an error by being too cocky or something.
@samuelmyth83926 жыл бұрын
Great video! I loved your analysis of Anakin. I feel like he is very underrated in the versus community. Many people lowball him because of his defeat against Obi Wan. And I agree that the fight would be extremely close. Lol to all the Windu fanboys in the comment section who believe he would "stomp" Anakin. They will gush about his fight against Sidious and completely disregard his shortcomings throughout the comics/books. Keep up the great work!
@gorrillazilla12074 жыл бұрын
sure mate
@PLATINUMSWORDS8 жыл бұрын
I agree that Mace would win, but I think you give Anakin just a little too much credit with his skills. I feel Mace would win 7.5-8 times out of 10.
@samuelswahn57028 жыл бұрын
+Platinum Swords Still be a hell of a fight no matter what
@uplightuk89248 жыл бұрын
Anakin's arrogance would have been his only weakness against Windu. Other than that, Anakin was faster and far more powerful than Windu.
@pful86188 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was more powerfull than Mace, but not enough to overcome Mace quickly. As stated in the video, the fight would go on and on and here Mace has a definitive advantage. He is just a lot more focused and controlled, he wouldn't exhaust himself as much as Anakin would and make fewer mistakes. And in along fight, that would just win out...
@PLATINUMSWORDS8 жыл бұрын
@Up Anakin was more powerful than Obi Wan, but he still lost that battle. Speed and power doesn't always constitute a win.
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
Platinum Swords Yes but it was stated in the rise of Darth Vader that Anakin was between worlds and vulnerable and could have beaten him any other time
@clementex29 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I disagree. Anakin is simply better than Windu in every category except durability in which I argue that they are equals.. He is faster, more skilful, more powerful. Given that Anakin has no specific hinderances unlike going against Obi Wan or Dooku, he should win this 7/10.
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
The only thing to me that indicates Anakin being better than Mace is his fight with Dooku. But as stated, he was in a zone he never really replicated. I find it more likely for Anakin to get in his own way than for him to be focused against someone like Windu. That's the real deciding factor here. In terms of their technical skills they were on par.
@clementex29 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele Actually, before amping himself Anakin was fighting evenly with Dooku. Him being hindered was specific to various circumstances. Against Dooku, Palpatine urged him to tap into his rage (in the book), and Dooku himself applied Dun Moch halfway during their duel. Against Obi Wan, he felt extremely betrayed that his wife and best friend abandoned him, clouding his judgment and preventing him from fighting at full capacity. He won't have this problem against Windu, unless the setting was in the Chancellor's office when he wanted Mace to spare Sidious to save his wife. Since versus series battles assume that it takes place in a neutral setting, Anakin takes this handily. And even in such circumstances, it could serve to amplify his performance, widening the already existing skill gap between Anakin and Mace even further. Either way, Mace still could take a few rounds but not for a majority.
@TheMan-so9do9 жыл бұрын
+clementex2 also what was stopping dooku from just breaking anikans force wall? was it plot armor or what? here's the real reason sidious told dooku to hold back it was apart of his plan but sidious tricked dooku and let anikan kill him. also dooku was fighting anikan and obiewan and was beating both of them in the beginning kicking anikan away and using the force take obiewan out of the fight after all of that he got tired but if he was fighting anikan alone and wasn't holding back he would have surely beat anikan.
@clementex29 жыл бұрын
+Manny Gober Yes, Sidious told Dooku to hold back but after Obi Wan and Anakin switched their fighting styles Dooku was forced to take the fight seriously. Dooku didn't penetrate Anakin's force wall simply because he couldn't. Anakin's strength in the force was comparable to his own. At no point was Dooku beating both Obi Wan and Anakin, he beat Obi Wan because Dooku >> Obi Wan in force abilities. Dooku kicking Anakin was nothing compared to Anakin raining blows like a lightning haze that expended Dooku's reserves and tired him out, and that was before his amp.
@matthewmann896910 ай бұрын
@@clementex2Okay but had it just been Anakin And Dooku fighting by themselves with no back up or interferences on equal ground then Dooku would of likely won as long as he did not get arrogant yeah.
@skaionex8 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Nobody gives anakin any credit...Win he wins: "oh he was helped by ___"Win he loses: "absolutely nothing hindered him"Hypocrites. Anakin stood up for a good while against dooku as a padawan in aotc. Then multiple times throughout TCW. Repeatedly destroyed ventress who gave even kenobi some trouble at times. He killed the unkillable durge. He singlehandedly won most of the war. In the novel he was fracturing kenobis bones from saber strikes. Kenobi: "...a cunning warrior"There were more than just knights and younglings in the temple during the purge. There were several masters. Mace didn't win against sidious. He was clearly being toyed with. Dont give me this mace would stomp him crap. I don't buy it. If grievous gave him trouble, anakin would as well. He's not the idiot people make him out to be. I think this would be the ps2 rots game battle all over again. Good fight from both but anakin winning. Vapaad isn't as super as people think
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you. I'm not sure if you are responding to me in this comment or others down below. But I agree with just about all you said, except I do not think you take into account Anakin's inconsistency.
@skaionex8 жыл бұрын
True but I blame writers lol But realistically, I think of it this way: anakin is as in flux with his power as he is with his emotions. Basically, when his mind is clear and focused, he's a death machine. He was very powerful at times. Destroying entire armies while running at breakneck speeds and not receiving a scratch. In one book, the clones weren't able to even find a target because anakin destroyed them so blindingly fast. Mace was shown to face an army in CW solo and got pretty beat up. Anakin has moved larger stuff in the comics than we've even seen yoda do. He only lost to obi wan because his emotions were so much in flux and confused. He just got done loosing everything. And while obi wan had anakin to blame, anakin was confused about blaming the jedi and himself. And the one person he did everything for "betrayed him" because his best friend "turned her against him." I'd say the odds were in obi wans favor emotionally. Against mace, they both seem to have pent up aggression towards eachother and both love the republic. This would be the greatest battle ever seen. Very equal. Very powerful. However, while mace has vapaad, anakin seems to have considerably higher resilience and strength. I think vapaad would only work for so long, as anakin isn't as dark side influenced as sidious (which was the one time mace was able to able to fully utilize the vapaad current due to sidious dark side strength) anakin is very much a 75% light side jedi who made bad choices. Even as vader (as seen in lords of the sith novel) he had great compassion. So obviously very light oriented. He craved power to help others, not himself. So vapaad wouldn't quite have the same effect even if ani raged out. I believe windu would really be burdened by skywalkers brute strength, both in combat and in the force. Sometimes brute force really can overpower precision. And anakin is a brute with the force. He collapsed a large building (I don't quite remember what kind) with a mere shout of rage (from the novel 'labyrinth of evil' I believe). While I don't doubt maces skills, people overestimate the title of "master" as it's not base on skill but more of who is masterful as a whole (emotions, saber, force, wisdom, etc). Not everyone on the council were amazing in a fight. Anakin was simply not granted master because of his emotional state and brashness. So that doesn't mean he couldn't easily beat a master in single combat. Kenobi said in aotc "if you practiced your saber combat as much as your wit you'd rival master yoda as a swordman." In the anakin and obi wan comics, he way outclassed his peers and had to fight a combat droid. He even modified it to be harder. He stood up to dooku for a good while, and when he actually switched his saber combat practice to utilize a duel style, he began beating dooku nearly every time until his eventual death. Not to mention I'm sure he knew how vapaad worked to a degree. Even if not, I still feel like anakin would start to gain the upper hand as time went on due to brute force just as he did with dooku and even taxed kenobis stamina(something he and his style were known not to have problems with). So I'd say 7/10 in skywalkers favor. Ok I've rambled enough lol
@skaionex8 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for some more discussion lol
@HighlightsAndShadowz7 жыл бұрын
There's nothing more to be said.You nailed it
@an0rangutan5 жыл бұрын
I don't think their differences in power and skill are very far apart, they're near equals in my opinion, I think Anakin may be faster, more naturally skilled and probably even more raw force power, but Mace does have a lot of experience on him and not just general experience, but hard combat experience and tactics, he's more of a warrior than Yoda (not to say Yoda isn't a warrior or a lesser one than Mace, but as in mentality, upbringing and lifestyle...warrior is a debatable title for Jedi, but we'll roll with it) but not lacking in wisdom either, Anakin is a true prodigy, there's no doubting that, but he never had the calm and collected mentality of a Jedi, in a time of war, Anakin is the most valuable asset the Jedi could wish for, he is a true warrior through and through and his instincts, natural talent and aptitude are surpassed by none, but the overwhelming skll and power as well as a straight forward approach akin to the 501st is not always preferable to the calm and tactical approach akin to the 212th, see what I mean? That doesn't mean Mace wins just because of that, but he's almost like a middle ground to Yoda and Anakin, not as wise as Yoda, but not as tenacious or ferocious as Anakin. As everyone seems to point out, Anakin's severe arrogance can sometimes be his downfall, though he's is entitled to that arrogance, I'm not taking that away from him (though it's not the way of the Jedi, etc. etc.) I think at the end of the day, my analysis is: Mace is wiser, more experienced, more tactical, has Vapaad (which as a style doesn't give an inherent advantage or disadvantage to Djem So) which can channel power from Anakin's dark emotions, which is always present (sorrow, arrogance, anger etc.) and Shatterpoint, which is not an instant win, but gives a needed edge. Anakin is arguably stronger, faster, more powerful in the force (probably, but not by a huge margin), more durable and has more stamina/endurance, as well as a sight skill advantage (I believe) Perhaps I'm giving Anakin the benefit of the doubt here with these accolades, but he is stated in the RotS novel to be the strongest, fastest, most skilled etc. etc. Jedi of his time or perhaps any time, though I believe this is a slight overstatement or hyperbole, it still has a level of truth and merit. As well he's said by Nick Gillard to be a tier 9 lightsaber duelist, which puts him above Dooku, Grievous, Obi-Wan and Mace and basically everyone of his era except Yoda and Sidious, I also think this a bit of an overhype or overstatement, but it's technically canon to Lucas himself, so it should at least be taken with a grain of salt, but I personally find him being in a whole tier above Dooku, Grievous, Obi-Wan and Mace a bit of a highball. My personal opinion is almost always experience > power, so I would choose Mace personally, but I think it'd be a very close fight and he'd be the underdog having to rise up, though I think Anakin could also take it 4.5/10 times.
@AncientGreenDragon8 жыл бұрын
Anakin skywalker vs darth maul
@m.unalercan89205 жыл бұрын
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@emperorpalpatine78565 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Joe Johnson III anakin wins
@thefallenknight21633 жыл бұрын
Anakin annihilates Maul
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Anakin stomps
@matthewhosack27683 жыл бұрын
Maul wins
@MattAlbie4 жыл бұрын
The more upset and unfocused Anakin got, the more he relied on his anger, the weaker he would be against Mace and Vapaad. MAYBE Anakin wins if he has the wisdom to realize this about Vapaad and calms down and keeps his focus... But almost 100 percent unlikely. Mace vs Obi Wan? Now there's a Jedi Master who's got almost zero dark side emotions for Mace to turn into a feedback loop... I'd be more confident in an Obi Wan victory.
@cameron2900x2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan is a much better match for mace but even then I doubt he would beat mace. He knows all 7 forms and would be able to defend just as well as kenobi, while kenobi has never been known to be great offensively
@jamesongillen16082 жыл бұрын
@@cameron2900x Mace is actually the one who stated Obi-Wan was THE master of form three, the best the Order has ever known. And as for his offense, watch him beat back Vader in the Kenobi show, he can always fall back on form 4 - his original preference - and is one of the most environmentally aware fighters we’re shown in Star Wars, Sokan being one of his other fallback supplements. Not saying he’d for sure win, and concede that Windus Offensive game is most likely superior, Kenobi is no slouch and is indeed a legendary member of the Jedi.
@kingorange7739 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesongillen1608 The Kenobi show is generally speaking not a proper representation of either Kenobi nor Vader’s combat technique and was made with the same level of quality as a fan film.
@FallenOne6697 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu is basically what Anakin could've been if he had remained with the Jedi.
@Orto-jj2di4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY 💯
@Muhittheman3 жыл бұрын
na man Anakin would've become far more powerful than mace ever was.
@FallenOne6693 жыл бұрын
@@Muhittheman True, I'm focusing more on his tactics and use of his anger.
@Michaelmyers-te3xj3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@brianrodriguez77549 жыл бұрын
Hypothetical scenario. What do you think would have happened if Mace took Anakin with him to fight Sidious? I actually think Anakin might not have turned to the dark side because Windu actually shows him respect. Also, if Windu fed into Anakin's ego by telling him that he is the Chosen One and that it is time to fulfill his destiny I think Anakin would have totally sided with him.
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
I think if they treated Anakin with some more respect in general he would have been better off.
@ForklifterMatt9 жыл бұрын
Superb editing, great writing, and a fantastic analysis! I agree with everything said! This is definitely one of my new favorite VS videos. Well done Antoine!
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. I feel this is one of my better ones as well. I kept all my points pretty concise and I didn't go on too many tangents.
@ForklifterMatt9 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele Exactly! It was clear and concise and unlike some of Evan's recent videos, you didn't repeat points more than necessary.
@YellowTissueBox2 жыл бұрын
hows life 6 years on forkliftermatt??
@TheMarcodiator9 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers. :) excellent job!
@Logan-qi4nx8 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of you. I began to fear every single hypothetical fight would end in the bolstering, unruly young Anakin absolutely destroying every Jedi and Sith known to lore. This made me happy deep down.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Not on this channel. You hardly ever see characters going on "win-streaks" here. I'm more interested in finding each character's foil.
@Logan-qi4nx8 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele could you do the old Sith empire vs the clone wars era Jedi Temple?
@sgspartan33537 жыл бұрын
"And therefore I name Mace Windu the Badass motherf*cker..." Hahahahahahahahah, great video man. Keep it up!
@cherrytonshawty91207 ай бұрын
Anakin got that "I'm gonna put some sand in your eye" kinda look when he regards Mace. Lol.
@kyleaustin60618 жыл бұрын
Anakin vs Dooku , with out Palpatine. I think Dooku would win
@shmooptifloop81188 жыл бұрын
definitely
@leftylizard8 жыл бұрын
I think so too. Dooku has experience and a force ability edge over anakin.
@medigoomnis8 жыл бұрын
I agree, Dooku's saber form is meant entirely for combatting lightsaber users (Makashi).  The grace was meant to counter aggressive sith, almost better than Vaapad. And then there's the lightning...
@joshuakei89258 жыл бұрын
dooku would win through force abilities
@ninjaguy2k1648 жыл бұрын
But Palpatine didn't do anything to affect the duel between Anakin and Dooku. Well, the only thing he did was give Anakin the thumbs down when deciding the fate of Dooku. Anyways, how would Palpatine's absence decide the victor?
@djbray78 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Anakin would win, but still great video, Antoine.
@Jack_Klash8 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree, from the start I knew Mace was gonna win.. Anakin couldn't even beat Obi-Wan Kenobi.. Who I see is below Mace..
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
You're using transitive property without context.
@Jack_Klash8 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele I am a bit but I also think Mace wins because he is smart like Obi-Wan not like Anakin who fights with unrelenting force, just trying to beat his enemy into submission.. Yes he can out maneuver some opponents like Dooku and droids.. But I don't think in a fight with Mace could he out maneuver him. Anakin would fight with rage because he has always had anger towards Mace and plus in the fight you put them in he would be angry because Mace is trying to kill the man that can teach Anakin how to save his wife. So Anakin would go in being angry, getting some good hits, putting up a great fight.. But in the end Mace will have more self control and use his skill in combat actually thinking about what he is doing not blindly slashing at his enemy.. and with that Mace will find a weak point in Anakin's attack and get a killing blow..
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
I'll leave you with that (as a showcase of the flaws of transitive property) Dooku > Obi > Anakin > Dooku > etc. . .
@Jack_Klash8 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele yahh I get what you mean.. I wasn't fully going with transitive property.. I was saying since Obi-Wan beat him then Mace should beat him because both Mace and Obi-Wan are smart fighters.. they hit joints, weak points, and outsmart their opponents.. and besides that Mace is strong with the force.. so that and his smart thinking wins him the fight against Anakin's rage.
@Jack_Klash7 жыл бұрын
***** he could be considered a better fighter because he didn't fight with his rage like Anakin.. Kenobi was smart throughout the fight.. keeping up a good defense and gaining the high ground he's a smart fighter..
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya2 жыл бұрын
I say this is an extremely 50/50 fight. All depends on whether Anakin keeps a cool head or not. Anakin is Mace's equal as a duelist plus stronger in the Force. But, Mace has much more experience and training and knows how to find weaknesses.
@achimpanzee92102 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@battlefleetstudios72058 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have to beg the differ. In my opinion Windu's weakness that pushes him over the edge is his shatter point. He was unable to see his own weakness and Anakin's weakness as he prepared to kill Palpatine. I would also argue that the Windu we see in the 2003 series was a but exaggerated. I think it's close, maybe even a draw. But I think that Anakin should win. Great video as always. Would love to hear your thoughts.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
As stated, I agree the 2003 Mace, and everyone in that show, is exaggerated. But in a one-on-one fight, Mace has some significant advantages over Anakin _on a consistent basis_.
@Michaelmyers-te3xj3 жыл бұрын
@@AntoineBandele big facts
@Michaelmyers-te3xj3 жыл бұрын
@@AntoineBandele key word significant
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
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@lleytonforster55608 жыл бұрын
I done it btw your my fave u tuber
@Tracer_Krieg8 жыл бұрын
Antoine, I'm actually curious. If we were to use your new scoring system, how would this play out?
@octozap81918 жыл бұрын
Umm not hating but just how does Windu Beat Anakin When Luke Can't even beat Anakin Windu Stands No Chance Against Luke And Yet Right Here Windu Beats Him??
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
ROTJ Luke would not beat Mace. Not sure where you got that idea.
@kyleaustin60618 жыл бұрын
ABC logic, duh....
@carrierose8526 жыл бұрын
What's up antoine love the videos homie anyways can you do a video of anakin skywalker vs darth maul I think they could potentially have the greatest fight of all time with them both being extremely good duelists anakin getting the edge in force abilities and maul getting the edge in physical abilities
@maxsmith2008 жыл бұрын
yes, great jedi windu was
@acegabrielcruz36872 жыл бұрын
Play the Revenge of the Sith game then you will know the answer
@TaoistSwordsman9 жыл бұрын
What do you think about doing a team battle? Afew examples might be something like; Anakin and Ahsoka vs. Obi-Wan and Qui Gon. Or maybe Darth Vader and Luke vs. Galen Marek and his dad (Sorry, honestly can't remember his name lol)/Vader and Starkiller vs. Palpatine and Maul. Might be a fun thing to think of how different scenarios would play out with a team. [:
@Phoenix_2549 жыл бұрын
+Pugglen Anakin and Ahsoka vs. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would be AWESOME!!!
@charlieblakemore57889 жыл бұрын
Yesyesyes
@charlieblakemore57889 жыл бұрын
Vader and palpatine vs Luke and obi wan or Luke and yoda
@joelalm44928 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Blakemore yes
@jamesfortner96958 жыл бұрын
I think you covered it and I've said on multiple posts for years that the smile is key. I think more should see this and obviously I'm with you that Sidious was in control of the fight. On Shatterpoint, another thing important to mention is though Dooku dying in AOTC's would have killed the seperatist movement ,in ROTS it was well beyond Dooku as his death stopped nothing, it was bigger than him at this time. Anakin was the Shatterpoint in ROTS.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Right.
@EmperorEnderXD3 жыл бұрын
I agree with basically everything you said. Except the end I think in that scenario remember Padme is at stake so anakin would go all out and I think win.
@beretta5628 жыл бұрын
You got to keep in mind, anakin will always be the overly confidant chump that has got all his limbs cut off during combat, mace never lost any body parts until anakin became a trader and cut his hand off out of no where, but if mace was ready to fight anakin I'm sure he would of sliced anakins other hand off then his head lol. Then there's obi wan, that dude so good at fighting he never lost any limbs to nobody, I mean shit he didn't even die he disappeared and turned into a force ghost and darth vader was so clueless of what just went down his mind was roasted lol. but yeah the limb count proves who's the better fighter.
@CelestQB3 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes lol 😂 🤣🤣
@beretta5623 жыл бұрын
@@CelestQB i forgot i even dropped this comment here 4 years ago lmfao thanks for putting it back on the map still a great point lol.
@JoshuaB11948 жыл бұрын
"No bull Sh*t Order." I like it thank you for that
@GoogleWhiz5403 ай бұрын
Wow, what a razor-thin victory for Windu! Definitely one of your best assessments, though. 😮 Anyway, can’t help but think that as he watches Anakin and Mace duel, Palpatine would breathe a sigh of relief at not challenging Windu directly (despite being gravely disappointed in the outcome). Heck, if Windu weren’t so Force-damned set in his Jedi ways, he’d make a formidable Sith Lord - easily a match for Vader, Malgus, and the other Dark Side heavyweights of the setting.
@FabiTheNoob8 жыл бұрын
Kylo Ren vs. Obi-Wan would be nice.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Kylo Ren is not well defined as a combatant. We’ve only seen him in one duel, a duel which was mired in circumstance by way of plot convenience, injury and psychological turmoil.
@bobtyler63988 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele What about Count Dooku vs. Luke Skywalker?
@bobtyler63988 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele Or maybe you could take the circumstances of his fight into account and also discuss his obvious power with the force. I just really hope we don't have to wait until Episode 8 to have Kylo Ren battles.
@crazyscotsman93278 жыл бұрын
+Bob Tyler I honestly think they completely ruined Kylo Ren in that battle, he was portrayed through out most of movie as a competent fighter and extremely talented force wielder. But spoilers coming do not read further if you haven't seen the movie! Seriously spoilers I do not want to ruin the movie for anyone as it is still a good movie even with my gripes. I am sorry Fin should have been slammed aside without a single bit of effort from Kylo, and the same for Rey. It makes absolutely no sense what so ever that either of them could even hold out for fifteen seconds against a partially trained warrior. Shit Fin got his ass handed to him by a Stormtrooper the first time he used the lightsaber and yet he is supposed to be able to hold of Kylo Ren? Shit why didn't he just use the Force to crush Fin we know he can, we have seen him do it to others. And I understand that they had to do that for the story to continue but I would have prefered if they left off with say Kylo wounding Fin and being forced to retreat from Chewie using the Millennium Falcon's turrets. As for me personally Kylo isn't intimidating at all any more, he is just a weakling who got beaten by two amateur fighters, one not even being a force sensitive.
@starkillerCS28 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele I would love to see a video analyzing the duel between Kylo vs Finn/Rey, I see so many trashing on Kylo for losing to a complete novice...
@KraNisOG8 жыл бұрын
I think it's actually 5/10 for both sides maybe a 5.5/10 in terms for windu anakin would have won if not for vapade but if he controls himself and "is in the zone" then anakin would win.
@joshuakei89258 жыл бұрын
SOOOO CLOSE
@reganreichman8 жыл бұрын
vaa pod is the same as juyu meaning easily countered by form 5, Mace Windo is garbage when fighting some one wroth the same caliber. take your bios out our quit using Windo
@ddfstar75887 жыл бұрын
i think anikan would beat mace
@joshuakei89257 жыл бұрын
it's spelled Anakin
@ddfstar75887 жыл бұрын
my bad anakan*
@Kage19974 ай бұрын
I'd have to disagree with this take. Here's why. Anakins was still reading between the light and darkside of the force and still leaning more on the lights idea I'd say up until the moment Mace chose to kill Palpatine. Those saying Anakins aggression and anger would get the best of him are thinking as if Anakins already turned. He has not. I think yes Anakins emotions would get in the way because he would be conflicted on fight Mace. I think Mace would have conflictions about fighting Anakin as well. To say that Mace wouldn't be trying to talk to Anakin and reason with him while this is going on is completely ignoring who Mace and Anakin are as Jedi at this particular time. Anakin killed Mace out of necessity, and given Anakin disarmed him over killing him I think that shows you still where Anakin was at that time mentally. Personally I believe it would turn into a slow duel at first. Nothing crazy almost that of a regular sparring match. A feeling out process, as well as an opportunity for Mace to conversate with Anakin. I doubt Mace would be looking to kill especially at first. I feel like it would some very conflicting heavy strikes from Anakin while Mace is trying to talk to him. Palpatine would have to be talking with Anakin through it. Egging him on. Mace would be asking with Anakin not to listen. All while Palpatine would be reminding Anakin throughout this time everything the Jedi wouldn't let him do, everything the Jedi prevented Anakin from doing. Reminding Anakin of his mother, reminding Anakin of Padme. I believe Anakin would have listened to Mace at some point forcing Palpatine to step in and fight Mace. Than the movie events would transpire. That's what I think would have actually happened. Now if Anakin had ended up listening to Palpatine in that moment which I don't think Anakin was inclined to do quite fully yet. If he had listened to Palpatine than I think you're still dealing with a conflicting cause even after disarming Mace in the movie Anakin screams "What have I done?" Huge sign that, that's not what Anakin wanted. I still think you're looking at a situation where Anakin isn't trying to kill Mace unless Mace keeps directly going for Palpatine. Which I don't think Mace does. And Mace is smart. I think in this world and in this situation Palpatine goes to trial.
@pterachicken72328 жыл бұрын
Star wars reminds me of the bible, is this just me?
@jamesfortner96958 жыл бұрын
Yes I've said this before that SW's is a deep ,ensemble cast with lots of life lessons...in that it is very much like the bible.
@jamesfortner96958 жыл бұрын
+James Fortner ....But so is BERSERK manga lol
@ianadd69908 жыл бұрын
That's why it is so famous. People knows the gospel before they were born, and remembers little when they came here on earth so that the Lord will test their faith. Still, they recall the gospel when they are presented with similarity of gospel of Christ, which is a fiction, Star Wars, and they embrace it. Force is the spirit of the Lord that tells them what to do. When they are strong with the spirit or the force, they can divide the water like Moses. Some can move mountains, stop rains, bring rains, start fires and etc. They can even foresee future as John foretold our days and even pass our days. They warns us about the dark side. They teach us Charity, love and selflessness. They tell us to stay away from pride, haughtiness, self centered and not caring for others. Scriptures tells us about how the dark side seek out their own while threading all down. Bible tells us also how Satan wants to take away our free agency to choose, and must obey no matter what. While the love of God does not take away our free agency but guides us and helps us choose what is right.
@J-Hue8 жыл бұрын
Most chosen one stories are based loosely on the bible in many facets.There are other kinds of story arcs that are based on it too.
@Jay-6297 жыл бұрын
well Anakin is Space Jesus. Think about it... Jesus has no father. Neither does Anakin. Jesus has magic powers. So does Anakin.
@HeyNimbus9 жыл бұрын
*_Albus Dumbledore VS Severus Snape! :)_*
@AntoineBandele9 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore > Snape.
@marcosgnzom943 жыл бұрын
Even Voldemort himself is not Albus Dumbledore level.
@theeternalchronicler30729 жыл бұрын
Ok I have a interesting suggestion Mara Jade vs Galen Marek
@thefallenknight21633 жыл бұрын
Galen annihilates her
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Galen stomps
@noobley63997 жыл бұрын
28:43 that "kick in" Was intended? lol
@AntoineBandele7 жыл бұрын
Indeed it was.
@noobley63997 жыл бұрын
I love it
@ivybellino22388 жыл бұрын
How about u do palpatine and darth playgus vs mace windu and yoda and grand master Luke in expanded universe
@wolfmaster77468 жыл бұрын
Luke alone could tackle palpatine and plagueis
@AstroSully8 жыл бұрын
luke can't defeat sidious that easily but he is stronger
@AstroSully8 жыл бұрын
yoda ties with sidious
@wolfmaster77468 жыл бұрын
Luke > Palpatine > Yoda > Plagueis > Mace if characters are in prime
@zeldorian45048 жыл бұрын
Lol Grand Master Luke Butchers ALL of them Yoda, Mace Sidious and Plagueis 1 Vs 4 Luke doesn't even breaking a sweat
@kevinramos41018 жыл бұрын
I like the video but I disagree with the out come ( making Mace to win cuz he is Samuel Jackson & he is Badass = Its Bullshit if you ask me -_- ) The Battle betwen Anakin & Mace will be exactly like in the PS2 game of EP3 ( Not cuz of the plot, but cuz of Anakin's potential if we count Clone Wars & what Palpatine said "Darth Vader will become more powerfull than both of us" to Yoda in EP3. Anakin and Mace are even in Phisical, if Anakin gets to the Dark Side of the Force he will have a boost that will trumps Mace. in the Force, Anakin have the raw heavy power, Mace have the skill, Mace force atacks will give Anakin trouble but Anakin's force powers will be to much for Mace to handle ( Anakin in the Clone Wars comics throws Dross out to space very easy and fast, capture Asaji Veltres with some cables & electrocute her ) and will crush Windu . + take in mind that If Anakin turns into the Dark SIde he will gain a power boost, and will easly crush Windu ). in Ligthsaber skills, Windu is a bit more expert than Anakin, but Anakin is not a sluch himself ( Able to handle himself against Doku and overpower him & was known by the Order to be so good in Lightsaber combat even by Windu and Yoda.) Anakin migth be erogant and yes that is a huge weakness that he sometimes knows about & deal with during his life ( Exept when he becomes into Dart Vader Post Suit ) but remember that Windu is also erogant toward Anakin and Underestimate him alot ( Thats why Anakin turns more to the Dark Side ), cuz of that Anakin knows his weakness and Windu underestimate Anakin and will get errogant toward him making Windu his own enemie taking Anakin as a normal oponent and making Anakin angry unleashing his true potential in the Dark Side of the Force, when Windu sees that Anakin is not a normal oponent to start with and sees that Anakin is coming with more powerfull attacks at him, it will be to late for Windu as he sees that Anakin have him overwerm and owerpowered him down and ended up crushing/killing Windu in the end. It will be a close battle like in the PS2 EP3 game but Anakin will keep geting better and better when the battle keeps up turning him into his Dartk Side self and a more fearfull powerfull oponent than before ending the battle with overwearming and powerfull attacks killing Windu in the Procces. Anakin Skywalker will Win.
@jayhartRIC9 жыл бұрын
Can you do Anakin vs Grievous?
@thefallenknight21633 жыл бұрын
Anakin annihilates him
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Anakin stomps
@markthetopfabricator60479 жыл бұрын
Satele Shan vs Luke Skywalker (Dark Empire) OR Darth Malgus vs Luke Skywalker (Dark Empire)
@_Egil8 жыл бұрын
DE Luke could beat either. No fanboyism, though. I love Darth Malgus to death, but he can't take DE Luke.
@thefallenknight21633 жыл бұрын
Luke annihilates either of them
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Luke stomps both
@nathanmitchell55508 жыл бұрын
Who wins out of Anakin and Mace is a very tricky scenario. For me it comes down to a couple of questions, only one of which I have heard asked; can Mace employ the ability of Vapaad to channel Anakins dark side energy and use lightsaber techniques of different forms simultaneously? If so, Mace wins all day long. If not, can Anakin keep a cool head and/or employ force rage in such a way to power through Windus defences? Possibly, Djem So was originally developed as an answer to Juyo being able to break the defences of Soresu so Anakin has a form advantage over Mace, Mace would be aware of this though and would make subtle changes to his technique to answer this issue, probably evading some of the powerful slashes and cleaves rather than trying to meet them head on. My money is still on Mace to outsmart his young, rash opponent but not before a long, tiring battle.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Djem So was created well before Juyo. It was created for re-directing blaster-fire and then for more strength based combat. It was never designed with Juyo in mind because Juyo did not yet exist in the discipline.
@bojanajovanovic37887 жыл бұрын
i think anakin would win
@itsthemumu85855 жыл бұрын
I think it’s honestly a toss-up, but like Dooku, if Windu were to piss Anakin off, there’d be no stopping him, and he would gain his raged ability, which would put Windu on his back foot, giving Anakin a chance to pierce his defense like he did with Dooku, but not quite the same way (although it would be with a blade).
@ggamesgarner80275 жыл бұрын
king of yutube so your saying anakin as of ROTS souls beat yoda and palpatine? Lol
@Orto-jj2di4 жыл бұрын
office scenario is specifically made to counter maces abilities. Palpatine wouldve helped him. Anakin was stronger in the force and equal in a debatable skill. Vaapad form wont work on light side anakin. Mace will hold back like he did with dooku at the beginning of the clone war while he was also tired from his fight with sidious.
@BeethovenIsGrumpyCat9 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker form Dark Empire versus somebody. No one ever does that.
@tylercripps96759 жыл бұрын
Because EU Luke skywalker is quite literally broken lol
@Redpoppy809 жыл бұрын
+Bogdan Cvetkovic If you take Luke at his prime in the EU Luke owns every one but if you take Luke from ROTJ you have so little information that it is impossible to say what Luke is actually capable of and because of this ROTJ Luke has no real respect among the VS community.
@crazyscotsman93279 жыл бұрын
+Redpoppy ROTJ Luke is about on par with Obi-wan during Clone Wars he only won against of Vader because 1 Vader did not want to kill his son, 2 He knew what to expect from Vader (who was very predictable in combat. It wasn't a problem cause no one else managed to escape him before.) 3 Luke was undermining his father's determination using the force, and he was still having trouble against Vader, the only time he had the advantage is when he went into force Rage.
@Anakin...Skywalker8 жыл бұрын
+Josh Campbell Anakin was really weakened by the robotic limbs and the suit, he lost skill in terms of lightsaber combat and force wielding.
@crazyscotsman93278 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker Until Vader compensated for his weaknesses and actually became more deadly. Adding the refinement of Makashi to his Djem So skills, and he was by far the most deadly Jedi Hunter ever.
@GoGoOnGordon4 жыл бұрын
HELL NO! Anakin is a emotional wreck, he will lose his temper and Mace Windu would take that to his advantage and use his Shatterpoint and Vaapad against Anakin, and even more so Anakin has Dark side Energy running through him. This fight isn’t even hard to know who would win it’s clear as day that Mace Windu would win either 9/10 or 8/10. You gave too much credit to Anakin when he is very much still inexperienced compared to Mace.
@asoto12148 жыл бұрын
What about Anakin (ROTS) vs Darth Maul (SOD)?
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
I have plans for a really awesome battle between Anakin and Malgus.
@asoto12148 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele Tbh that seems a little one sided but either way I can't wait!
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Malgus are quite close.
@asoto12148 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele Dueling wise yeah but I think Malgus out classes when it comes to force abilities and tactical ingenuity
@EricGraham948 жыл бұрын
+Alex Soto Darth Malgus and Anakin both have problems with tunnel vision
@astrallixr66056 жыл бұрын
Anakin would win
@Orto-jj2di4 жыл бұрын
True office duel is in anakins favor
@wilmerlubian35644 жыл бұрын
are you sure about that? XD
@AundreyLane-ur5ei21 күн бұрын
Mace Windu was able to fight and keep up with Sidious who was moving so fast he was fading in and out of existence
@Jander8339 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do Mace vs Obi-Wan : an irresistible force vs an immovable object
@anubisgod235 жыл бұрын
Mace easy
@FallenOne6694 жыл бұрын
I'd give the win to Mace. Obi-Wan can hold out, especially with his Soresu Mastery (Even Windu stated Obi-Wan was the definitive Form 3 Master of the Jedi Order). However, Form 7 was the only lightsaber style capable of overwhelming Soresu's defences. Combine that with Mace's Shatterpoint ability and general nuance using the Force in combat; he could, eventually, break Obi-Wan down and end the fight.
@Dayz3O68 жыл бұрын
Mace: I've walked both the light and dark paths, you think you can defeat me?!
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
Eh, I wouldn't say Mace has _really_ walked a dark path.
@aleexx778 жыл бұрын
+Dayz 3O6 lol anakin has truely walked both paths
@Dayz3O68 жыл бұрын
Alex A he walked both but eventually falls to the dark side, while Mace utilize both light and dark and still in control of himself. More like Anakin quit the light and join the dark.
@aleexx778 жыл бұрын
Until the end, he returns to the light and balances the force...
@CosmicTron8 жыл бұрын
I agree with the Outcome Mace Windu would win because, Anakin just wasn't as skillful in his training half the time he didn't work on his sword skills as much as Obi Wan and Mace I will admit Obi Wan held back in his duels on several occasions due to the fact to arrest people instead of killing them. But if script was different and fight to kill Obi Wan would have no problem with actually killing Anakin
Obi-Wan (Attack of the Clones) vs Luke Skywalker (Return of the Jedi)
@Jay-6298 жыл бұрын
If that were Obi-Wan in his prime (Revenge of the Sith) it would be an easy victory for Obi-Wan.
@a.c.slater79898 жыл бұрын
if it were luke in his prime there'd be no contest to be had
@TheNuisanceBird7 жыл бұрын
AOTC Anakin > ESB Luke although it'd be a tough fight.
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Kenobi wins decisively
@juanecheyt8 жыл бұрын
The strong but unstable cry baby would loose against The great Master Mace Windu...... Totally agreed.
@Joseph-Dreams2 ай бұрын
everybody knows that Mace Windu would win against Anakin! 😂😂😂 that was funny when you said Anakin would win😂😂😂😂😂
@dulio32408 жыл бұрын
The count dooku part was when he enter into a state of rage. Force rage did increase force powers and dooku was already exhausted from trying to undermine the defences of obi wan and anakin.
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
August The Magic King No he wasn't
@dulio32407 жыл бұрын
Anakin always force rage when the enemy wont crumble to his cool headed offence
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
August The Magic King Dooku wasn't tired I meant also in fact in the novel it said he recovered his reserves and then Anakin after force rage was driving him back and in point of view each strike he used more force then he used to throw Obi-wan across the room
@dulio32407 жыл бұрын
Dooku obviously have to fight for his life realizing they are not amateurs anymore. If you cant break down obi wan saber guard, use the force. Dooku have to match Anakin strength for strength depleting his reserves. He is not recovering but depleting, Anakin strength is monstrous. He is capable of snapping necks and punching through torsos
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
August The Magic King Yes but after he threw Obi-wan he restored his reserves with the force *then* fought Anakin it said right there
@JobeMinacum8 жыл бұрын
Dooku vs Obi-Wan Kenobi? (One on one, not with Anakin's help) Dooku vs anyone, really. (Dooku is my favorite character in the series)
@emperorpalpatine78565 жыл бұрын
JobeMinacum Dooku would win in a fight with obi wan
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.41346 ай бұрын
As much as I want Anakin to Win this fight due to me HATING THE CHARACTER OF MACE WINDU he won’t unfortunately 😆. I can’t deny Master Windu’s abilities so it is what it is.
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.41345 ай бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Of course & it is a really good StarWars Book ✅
@99thJediWarrior9 жыл бұрын
I believe your ending assessment was very fair. Though if Anakin did win, I don't think it would simply be because of his place in the Star Wars universe.
@theonewhostandsaboveall68268 жыл бұрын
what cartoon is the one shown @ 1:32
@theonewhostandsaboveall68268 жыл бұрын
Antoine Bandele thx man
@nathanmitchell55507 жыл бұрын
Anakin is damn near unstoppable when he's "in the zone" but Mace is a unique opponent on a similar level that can draw on his opponents dark side energy to fuel him to even greater heights. Anakin won't immediately go into a force rage and Mace had already been using Vapaad to channel the dark side energy from Sidious into his duelling abilities. Mace would be able to use Vapaad and match Anakin him using his own dark side energy. If Anakin doesn't tap into the dark side, Mace beats him using his own inner darkness to fuel Vapaad. There are two ways Anakin can win this duel; if it reaches a point where Mace can't channel any more dark side energy and Anakin is still not in top gear, or if Anakin lashes out with the force and overpowers his force barrier. Mace is a comparable duellist to Anakin as is, I can't see Anakin both fuelling and overwhelming him simultaneously. I can see Anakin lashing out with the force though, if he is amped enough I can see him getting past Mace's force barrier and choking him or repulsing him out of the window.
@wolfmaster77468 жыл бұрын
I would argue Anakin would win 5.5/10 by just full on over whelming him but it could easily go either way
@Logan-qi4nx8 жыл бұрын
you forget the fact Mace man handled and destroyed a legion of battle droids with just his bare hands and the force.
@wolfmaster77468 жыл бұрын
Master Queef honestly to me that was out of character for him considering he never showed that level of power again
@Logan-qi4nx8 жыл бұрын
+wolfmaster7 bad writing regardless I think a lot of info is pulled in Vader/Anakin's favor because he's a much more explored figure in both legends and canon. Mace gets touched upon less often and therefore has less visible experience to draw from.
@wolfmaster77467 жыл бұрын
I honestly now think this is a stalemate or a slight victory for Mace
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
AnomalyFM Actually Anakin has done similar things to a greater extent than Mace
@masterzane7248 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mace wins!
@Michaelmyers-te3xj3 жыл бұрын
Easily why is this a debate?
@thesmilinggun-knight96468 жыл бұрын
I think Anakin would win with his blade after a heated battle. I think this because Anakin was known as the gymsyo master and Count Docko even said he was the fastest light saber dueler he had ever faced and his hardest dueler
@christiantveito88779 жыл бұрын
Mace is also way above Anakin in a lightsaber duel. Mace has all the forms to fall back on than Anakin and he mastered all of the forms anakin mastered 1 form.
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
Anakin gets a Form advantage against Windu and look at Cin Drallig. He was a "master" of all of the forms and get stomped.
@christiantveito88779 жыл бұрын
+TheNuisanceBird Yeah a "master" he was a great instructor but no Warrior like Windu and didnt take the forms all the way like Windu.
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
Christian Tveito None of the other forms he mastered were elevated the way Vaapad was and would be obsolete against Anakin's mastery of D'jem so. Sorese might work, but I'd say Windu's best chance is with Vaapad.
@christiantveito88779 жыл бұрын
+TheNuisanceBird of course his best bet is Vaapad but he still have a larger and in my opinion much better skillset than Anakin and Anakin is one recless motherf****.
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
Christian Tveito Anakin actually is a pretty versatile fighter. It's not that his D'Jem So approach is over specialized. Its rather overused. When you think about it. Kenobi and Skywalker: Form 1: Both. Form 2: N/A Form 3: Both. Kenobi has THE mastery of it. Form 4: Both. Footwork used for D'Jem So by Skywalker. Form 5: Both. Kenobi has basic Shien training while Skywalker is the master of both. Form 6: Both. Both are proficient enough to use Jar'Kai effectively. Form 7: N/A. Of course, Kenobi is the more versatile of the two. It's just that many assume D'Jem So is the only Form Anakin has in his skill set. He has others, not that he has a mastery with them though.
@BR4IN1N4J4R9 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Kyle Katarn vs Mace Windu: Battlemaster vs Swordsmaster. It would be undeniably close, because as pure duelists, they are on-par, neither having an advantage
@TheSunStudio19 жыл бұрын
+Jared Hays Cin Drallig + Kao Cen Darach vs Mace Windu would be good too, they were Battlemasters of their era too!
@sthlmgirl65839 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 Neither Cin Drallig nor Kao Cen Darach would be a good match for Mace Windu lol. Cin Drallig got stomped by Anakin while he was simultaneously choking one of Cin's students. Kao Cen Darach matched a Malgus way out of his prime+Vindican (Who has no feats or hype), only to lose to an enraged Malgus. (You could argue Darach was somewhat tired though). A good match would be Ven Zallow and Kao Cen Darach vs Mace Windu alone.And Mace Windu should still win that as well tbh.
@TheSunStudio19 жыл бұрын
SthlmGirl Typo man! I was saying Cin + Kao vs Mace. Although Mace would win without debt... Ven Zallow is overrated! He got taken out by Malgus in like 30+ seconds! Go check out the Qui Gon Jin vs Ven Zallow video by Jensarri1 and Evannova95, even Jinn wins him in a decent fight!
@sthlmgirl65839 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 But the Malgus that beat Ven Zallow> Malgus that beat Kao Cen Darach. Ven Zallow was regarded as Darth Malgus's most noteworthy kill.Not Kao Cen Darach. And yeah, Qui-Gon Jinn is above both Zallow and Darach.He cant beat both at the same time though.
@TheSunStudio19 жыл бұрын
SthlmGirl Agreed. Mace vs Dooku is an epic fight yet TCW fu*ked it! 6 seasons wasted and they still didn't show us this epic battle!
@calebellis9556 Жыл бұрын
Anakin skywalker would win with extreme high difficulty
@christianmarquez90488 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what if Anakin was trained by Mace
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
I think he would have failed much like Depa did.
@christianmarquez90488 жыл бұрын
Darn
@darthjarjarthewise32798 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Bandele Whys that?
@kyleaustin70455 жыл бұрын
Depa and Anakin both had very fragile mentality, hence the former couldn't handle Vaapad in the jungle of Harun-Kal. The same would have applied to Anakin, if not even faster, since Anakin had more traumatic experience.
@gunnaroddur94989 жыл бұрын
Could you do Darth Vader vs Darth Sidious
@TheNuisanceBird9 жыл бұрын
Sidious > Vader. It's a Star Wars fact.
@charlieblakemore57889 жыл бұрын
There's a reason Vader needed Luke to beat sidious and why sidious wanted Luke to kill Vader
@gunnaroddur94989 жыл бұрын
I know that Sidious would defeat Vader but it would be fun to see that video
@suprememasterofdark29703 жыл бұрын
Sidious one shots
@supershenron91624 жыл бұрын
Correction sideous did NOT kill mace windu, the fall is what killed him lmao. Sideous MURDERED him :)
@ddfstar75887 жыл бұрын
I think Anakin would win.
@AntoineBandele7 жыл бұрын
Based on?
@dancepro677 жыл бұрын
50% odds of being right
@ddfstar75887 жыл бұрын
i think mace would underestimate him and i think anakin has more stamina so idk it could go both ways but think mace would ultimately treat him like hes just a boy and akakin would surprise him. love your vids btw
@cinematastic18147 жыл бұрын
Jared Heath agreed it's so obvious
@ddfstar75887 жыл бұрын
you agree that anakin would win?
@snellsworld26488 жыл бұрын
Of course Mace Windy would whip that ass and I don't Anakin could force pushing him into his back breaking.
@Redoren9667 жыл бұрын
todd smith Then you know shit on Anakin besides Movies
@ElyciusM7 жыл бұрын
Anakin is very emotion based, and that helps Mace a lot, so I think Anakin would actually be one of his easier fights.
@TheNuisanceBird7 жыл бұрын
Mace would still have trouble with Anakin being on par with dueling. He'd take a slight majority after the fight of his life.
@cat12land148 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker should have won
@ElyciusM8 жыл бұрын
No.
@rossyboys3438 жыл бұрын
No way
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
I agree 4/10 times.
@rossyboys3438 жыл бұрын
Rekt
@joshuakei89258 жыл бұрын
yeah
@Pandadude-eg9li7 жыл бұрын
Also, I believe it would more likely go: Anakin lunges at Mace's arm, but instead of Mace trying to kill Sidious, he Blocks Anakin's blow. The rest would proceed from there. However, I do believe that once Anakin is at his weak point, Sidious would send a shock of force lightning in order to incapacitate Mace. Mace would have either two options: Strike Anakin down, or deflect the force lightning. Either way Mace dies, but in the latter, Order 66 is far less successful.
@Pandadude-eg9li7 жыл бұрын
And the latter causes a more powerful Anakin.
@joebeer20315 жыл бұрын
Mace will die due to fatigue vappad is taxing on the body and it does not last forever mace is 50 years old.
@elvis51388 жыл бұрын
say one good Movie that samule l. Jackson isn't in uhm he is in avengers star wars oh i know fast and the fourious
@flemmingmatiasvermeulen96089 жыл бұрын
Antoine, your subs count goes so fast, when i subsribed your channel you where at like 10.000 subs now already 45K. That is amazing, keep the great work up!
@diogodias28558 жыл бұрын
I think Anakin win and Mace lose.
@EliteStorm7 жыл бұрын
I feel like Anikan would win due to his anger and strength..... like you said In the clone wars he broke several defences of many great fencers likely breaking through Windu's
@AntoineBandele7 жыл бұрын
His anger is exactly what would feed into Windu's advantage . . .
@EliteStorm7 жыл бұрын
Ehhhhh I don't think so because I the force awakens Kylo Ren repeatly is seen hitting the bowcaster wound feeding his anger to make him stronger..... Same with Anakin He got deeper and deeper to the dark side and used his anger to his advantange in Ep.3 when her was fighting obi one
@jakebishop78227 жыл бұрын
the fighting style mace uses is vaapad, it channels his opponents dark energy, so the more dark side anakin uses, the stronger mace gets.
@EliteStorm7 жыл бұрын
Yeah but also the stronger Anikan gets, Lol I am a hardcore Anikan Fan And I love All ep.1,2,and 3........ I will fight for Anikan to beat Snoke...... YES SNOKE IS MACE WINDU
@jakebishop78227 жыл бұрын
My point is Anakin using more dark side gives no net advantage.
@treasureberry71548 жыл бұрын
I would really think it's important that you said the fight would go on and someone would give. While what you say is true, you also said earlier that Mace could get tired. While you also said this wouldn't likely happen given his endurance, I think it could change the tally to more like 11/20, given that Anakin fights with such tenacity.
@AntoineBandele8 жыл бұрын
11/20 is effectively 6/10.
@AhsokaFanboy11384 ай бұрын
We know the answer to this question: Anakin would win, as he did in the game.
@chrisdudedurian13052 жыл бұрын
Mace literally beat Palpatine. He is much better than Anakin
@AntoineBandele2 жыл бұрын
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@RealisticBatman7 жыл бұрын
Yeah take that "Chosen one" i wish they fought in revenge of the sith
@ookami0119 жыл бұрын
I was re watching the legend of Korra season 4 and couldn't stop laughing about the similarities between it and Star Wars. Think about Kuvira she wants to build an empire (her words), she has a death star (if your willing to make the comparison), she uses force choke on Varrick (kinda), hell she even has storm troopers. A crossover battle between her and Darth Vader would be epic
@zaluk10419 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I feel like this really could have gone either way! Just wondering, do you still agree with your Vader vs Mace video?