VS | Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Malgus [2/3] (ft. Jensaarai1)

The negotiator versus the warlord. Who will come out on top? Strength and resilience, or defense and pacifism?
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[@nathanwhite2689]

Take a shot every time he says tank. Alcohol poisoning in 3...2...

[@jaysev1]

But what I really want to know is: was Malgus a tank?

[@AntoineBandele]

;-)

[@corny17]

+Antoine Bandele Hi man, around 1:52, where are those clips from? a game or something? looks amazing.

[@PmK96]

+Christian Cornelius Star Wars the Old Republic. Very fun game its basically a WoW version of Star Wars.

[@darthniennunb234]

Christian Cornelius star wars the old republic cinematics

[@Awesomest915]

What Sith Lord ISN’T a tank, though?

[@aidencrawford9704]

Is it his microphone or just me? That other guy sounds like hes struggling to breathe.

[@novapanther2058]

I know right

[@kirillzakharov7336]

it always sounds like jensaarai is struggling to breathe.

[@shuoyang6961]

Darth Malgus literally XD

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

I agree with you verdict, but I have a small disagreement. I think you under evaluated Obi-Wan's Force defences. Evannova has some different perspectives in his Kenobi vs. Koon video. In most of the situations where Kenobi's force shields are penetrated, he was at less than his full strength, his opponents had a serious power-boost, or they were extremely powerful and had to use a lot of energy to punch through. Punching through his force-shields was not "punching through jello." I view the criticism against Kenobi's force-defences in the same light as Reti4's evaluations of Ashoka Tano's duelling track-record during the Clone Wars. In his Tano vs. Bultar Swan video, Reti4 noted that during her Padawan career, Ashoka was constantly duelling opponents who were several tiers higher than her, which limited the amount of experience and development she could gain from facing them. For someone to develop their skills in any art, profession, or competition, they have to face equals to truly develop solid, dependable foundations for their skills, approaches and techniques. For Kenobi, he is constantly facing some of the best duelists and most powerful combative Force-users of his era: Asajj Ventress, Count Dooku, Darth Maul, Darth Vader, and more. And to over-come his force shields, these individuals were either left considerably tired (Count Dooku on the Invisible Hand), needed a serious emotional boost (Ventress and Maul), be caught-up in the thrill and intensity of a fight (Maul on FLorrum when he pinned Kenobi to the wall of the tunnel), or be seriously weakened or surprised (Ventress and Darth Maul on Mandalore). Also, on Mustafar, Darth Vader did not even bother to use his combative Force-powers on Kenobi at all except when they force-locked each other. Jensaarai, you have noted before that it's just as important to consider how Jedi and Sith have not used the Force as much as how they have. Whenever someone has faced Kenobi, most with a strong familiarity with him, Force-Powers were either a surprise attack, a desperate attempt, or a last resort. Even Count Dooku, who used Force casually to overpower, cripple, or off-balance Ventress, Anakin and Opress, usually refrained from employing the Force against Obi-Wan whenever they faced during the Clone Wars (discounting the Geonosis duel, when Dooku could have overpowered Kenobi easily with telekinesis, but chose is lightsaber instead). However, I am not questioning your verdict in this match for their Force-abilities. Darth Malgus undoubtedly has a least as much raw power and skill with his combative Force powers as Count Dooku, likely more. He was different from his contemporaries during the Great Galactic War because he focused intensely on duelling, not solely battlefield engagements: taking time for individual duels rather than focusing on broader awareness and speed tactics to eliminate enemies quickly. He undoubtedly has more than enough power to cripple Kenobi with the Force wit the same ease that you have credited him with in this video. I do believe that Obi-Wan's Force-defences were seriously undervalued in this video. I still agree with the verdict of your comparison. -as a side note, Qui-Gon Jinn was noted to be a comparatively weak combative Force-user. Yet in his duels against Darth Maul, Xanatos, and Aura Sing, none of them even tried to use Force-Attacks against him. Now pre-bisection Darth Maul and Sing were dedicated lightsaber duelists, and were not strong combative Force-users out of preference. Yet, Xanatos was a calculating individual and almost a dirty-fighter, who focused on winning more than anything. During his duels with Qui-Gon he refrained from using the Force, relying solely on his lightsaber skills. Also, Qui-Gon was taught by Dooku, who is noted to be a strong Force-User in his own right. What's more, Qui-Gon's more passive Force-powers have been shown to be stronger than his decisive ones, which is why his Force-senses are strong but he drops his guard to use combative telekinesis. I believe that Qui-Gon had some strong Force-defences because even against an opponent who was intimately familiar with him, Xanatos refrained from using direct Force attacks. For such a strategic individual to avoid this option, it's likely out of necessity rather than complete arrogance. Xanatos loved to win, however he could, and when he couldn't escape, he chose to kill himself so Qui-Gon would still loose. Obi-Wan is Qui-Gon's student. I believe this is why his Force-shields are more likely to be stronger than average rather than weaker.

[@robgeorge4581]

+Geoffery Edgson You give a very compelling and interesting point of view that is well thought out and typed. Here are my personal thoughts about it. Kenobi has a strong active force shield but a very poor passive one. I believe in this video it was said that Kenobi is weak against physical attacks and force abilities because he puts everything into maintaining his great wall of china level defense. In TCW, Kenobi took a force push from Dooku (though Anakin was next to him at the time). If Kenobi is not in the middle of dueling, then I agree with you. But in the middle of an intense duel, Kenobi has a rather poor force shield (at least when compared to other tier 2's like Plo or Shak). Vader not using the force on Mustafar is because Anakin is rarely using the force, only as a blunt instrument or if the opponent does so. Kenobi knew this and only used the force when absolutely necessary. As for Dooku rarely doing this against him, I feel this is due to Dooku's poor stamina, believing he would use less energy when dueling due to form 2's economy of energy. But that's just my opinion on this so feel free to disagree.

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

I enjoy debating different perspectives, so I'm typing this reply. You do provide a good point regarding Obi-Wan's force-defences in the heat and intensity of a duel. However, your examples are a little unreliable. Plo Koon has never be subject to Force-attacks before, neither from Asajj Ventress or Savage Opress. Also, the only showing of Shaak Tii's Force defences is against Galen Marek. She did use tutiminus to partially stop General Grievious' lightsaber blow; but during the Clone Wars her Force-defences were not tested anywhere near as often or intensively as Kenobi's were. Admittedly, she was able to cause Galen Marek, someone who's combative Force powers were stronger than their swordsmanship, to focus on manipulating their surroundings rather than attacking her directly or indirectly. However, this was after she had spent at least several minutes in deep meditation, enhancing her Force-related powers, clearing her mind, and becoming centred for the coming duel. Obi-Wan rarely, if ever, had this kind of lull to prepare himself for a duel with other Force-users.

[@robgeorge4581]

Geoffrey Edgson The reason I used Shak Ti and Plo Koon was because they posses similar levels of force power to Kenobi in order to identify what the "standard" was for force-defenses of his caliber. Shak Ti was able to contend against Anakin Skywalker in order to help Jedi escape the purge and contended with him. Though, sadly there is a lack of detail around that contest and Anakin is notorious for not using the force in combat that much. As for Plo Koon, the fact that Ventress did not use the force against him is indicative of Koon's defenses and she used her force abilities against skywalker in the microseries.

[@jacobsabastian3871]

"Or break their BODIES." I literally laughed out loud when he said that

[@wookieninja8794]

According to these guys it sounds like Malgus could get a hard on and slice through other's lightsabers with it. Seriously. Sounds like this guy is more than just a fanboy of him. I love Obi-wan but I don't delude myself on what he can or can't do. Also they say he is cunning but it's his cleverness that wins out. I don't feel like they take his wits into account and that he is always thinking and planning on the fly. That is what ultimately made Obi-wan Kenobi who he is.

[@kevinwalker31]

Right💯

[@jacobcoy8813]

He said battlefield tank so many times holy crap

[@wolfgreyhound3095]

Malgus was a tank, was the only thing I remember out of that guys mouth, cmon, you dont have to say that in every category

[@jabbathehutt1888]

I believe something was forgotten here. Obi Wans force shield was not “easy to punch through” Ventress pushed through who was an extremely deadly assassin. The point of her training was to be able to do this. And the same goes for maul and dooku who both were extremely gifted. Second Obi Wan could take an INHUMAN amount of punishment. For example when he and Alpha 17 were held in a camp, where Kenobis ability to call on the force was taken. He was starved and tortured by Sith methods literally constantly. His awareness of the area was good. Notice Anakin, possibly the strongest force user at the time, one of THE best light saber duellists. And Obi wan lured him right where he wanted. The mere fact Kenobi came out of that fight with all his limbs and little damage is a testament to this. I agree malgus was a stronger force user, and I think in terms of their physicality they should be equals or malgus gets a very small edge. Yes having a mountain dropped on you hurts, however remember Malgus was still in his 60s, using cybernetics, and had darth side wounding. Which I think would bring him up to kenobi who yes, isn’t as huge but can take close to or the same amount of damage. Size matters not. I also think kenobi would be a better saber duelist. He was used to fighting people bigger and stronger then himself, however malgus isn’t a lot different from a lot of brutes. Yes malgus had talent and fought smart but in my opinion. Kenobi fought smarter.

[@maxedoutvibes]

i think something that would be cool to see is the emporer of the old republuc vs. Emporer palpatine. both were considered horrifyingly powerful in their primes, so i wonder who would come out on top

[@maxrichards3881]

9:54 Malgus was NOT technically advanced enough to use Juyo. And its pronounced JuyO, not JuYaw.

[@LightingbladeShen]

This is one of those classic points of 'mind your surroundings' In terms of edges, Malgus takes everything, being stronger, better in the Force and having a very well develloped style. But Obi-Wan's got the edge in terms of tactical application. Antoine and Jensaraai1, well done! This verdict will be a nailbiter

[@AntoineBandele]

;-)

[@EricGraham94]

Oh yeah I almost forgot. Darth Malgus has combat tunnel vision - only focusing on his opponent and not that aware of his environment, barely able to dodge an attack or doesn't use the environment to exploit another opportunity to attack his opponent. While Obi-Wan uses tactical ingenuity to look for places to lure his opponent to screw up or to tire them out.

[@maxrichards3881]

@@EricGraham94 The problem with that idea is that Kenobi would have to find that environmental advantage before Malgus unleashes the dark beast within. Once Malgus uses the force, Kenobi’s a dead man walking.

[@crl2993]

19 it took grivous 20 strikes a second to break obi ones defenses

[@luimaniac6288]

Obi one is better then Malgus

[@LilT8]

And you can't even spell it right

[@devingendron2287]

Is it really that easy to punch through jello? It's compressibility and complex polymer networks with gaps filled by water make it pretty resistant to blunt force, like any solidified gel. I think punching through a block of jello would actually be pretty hard.

[@GetInMC]

Devin Gendron my thought exactly

[@corneliusm3054]

Jar Jar vs Young Anakin

[@johnmacs8788]

I think Obi- Wan would have won. He is able to tolerate a lot of hits. He probably took the biggest beatings out of any jedi in the clone wars. I think he could have probably out-manuvered him as well :P.

[@ElonSmallPP]

Did he take a grenade to the face and survive?

[@Vaderdad]

+Naga Sadow 2nd that!

[@erikhernandez4812]

+John Macs Lightsaber to the face generally isn't something you can come back from, though. Still think Obi-Wan would win, but only because he is fantastic at doing the biggest thing that always beats Malgus, but more through strategic thinking than through skill alone. It might even just come down to the battlefield and whether or not Obi-Wan can use the environment to his advantage, as he did with Vader and Mustafar's lava.

[@silversurfer8818]

+Naga Sadow The grenade that Jace Malcom held in his hand, while it exploded? If the force from that grenade couldn’t hurt Malcoms hand, I must conclude that the grenade in fact had very little explosive force to be considered an achievement to survive. The RPG earlier didn’t seem to cause much damage to Malgus armor either - they really need to get some better weapons, soft air gun graded weapons doesn’t cut it against the Sith!

[@samking8845]

This might play out like Malgus versus Ven Zalo. Kenobi will play the part of Ven Zalo, Malgus wont be able to break through Kenobi's defence so Malgus will have to trick him some how to make Kenobi open his defence.

[@samking8845]

sorry not be able to

[@gustavbergstrom4917]

I like that you make this a fair shot for both sides and get your facts straight! Keep it up dude! You earned a sub for this versus starwars series!!

[@AntoineBandele]

Thank you for your appreciation! That means a lot.

[@branphillips9546]

Am I the only one who considers Malgus the essence of Sith? He practically embodies their philosophy and tactics, adding his own unique style to them and making them his own.

[@AntoineBandele]

Bran Phillips I think he embodies the Sith Order the best I have ever seen.

[@Daddy_Skeletor]

+Antoine Bandele no surprise, be have to representate both Sith classes in the trailers

[@zacqueeentertainment7336]

+Antoine Bandele more than Maul or Dooku?

[@eduardojara6955]

This fight was a bit unfair death malgus seems to be a bit too strong for obj wan

[@thecardtrader3285]

Woah this is the best one yet - Malgus brought an empire down and Kenobi kept the legacy of the Jedi going

[@einarmar7445]

"malgus gets the edge: no he gets the whole mountain"

[@MrJo-dn9vh]

So Malgus was a Sith juggernaut that completed the Inquisitor storyline so he can use legacy force lightning? Cool.

[@FoggyTheHippo]

More of a sith warrior than a juggernaut.

[@hotitalianstalion]

1:11 Darth Malgus implements Scorpios Technique "Get Over Here!"

[@AntoineBandele]

Hah yeah

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Though I personally agree with the verdict of the battle, I believe that Obi Wan should have got the edge as a martial artist. My reasons being that Obi's feats are simply more impressive. Yeah Malgus took down Ven Zallow, but Obi took down Grievous. I'd like to compare this fight to Darth Maul vs Qui Gon: Qui Gon being more of an experienced duelist, but Maul being more skilled. IMO, Kenobi could take down Malgus in a duel as quickly as he did with Grievous--Malgus's style is a hybridized form, but it is ultimately djem so at it's SIMPLEST form with elements of other forms and immense strength backing it up. Malgus's lack of sophistication is what would be key to Kenobi's victory as a duelist. As I said, I do agree with verdict as a whole,but you do need to consider the facts: "Malgus would be a terrible classroom instructor" Obi was a great instructor;he was instrumental to the blossoming of Luke Skywalker.

[@AntoineBandele]

Morgan Swift I actually agree. That was a point of contention between me and Jen when creating this video.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Antoine Bandele Thanks; would you consider Ven Zallow vs Darth Malak

[@andrewkowal2744]

I dunno, With respect Ven Zallow was a Jedi battle master. IMO Zen > Grievous

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Andrew Kowal I don't know.I think Grievous would stomp Zallow

[@andrewkowal2744]

Morgan Swift I respect that, and I will correct my statement that he was a battle master because he wasn't :p I was thinking of Kao San Duran(however you spell it). He would boot stomp Grevious. However I wouldn't necessarily say that Grevious would win, because Zen would use more force attacks then Kenobi would....I would actually really like to see how the fight would play out

[@highgroundproductions8590]

Obi-Wan was an Extremely Powerful Telekinesis, Mind Trick and Beast Control Wielder! He pushed General Grievous into the air Right before that Grievous battle, he caused a huge durasteel air vent to fall on a few droids, surprising them. Vader was very angry and using all his power on Mustafar, making this quite impressive for Kenobi During the clone wars, he force pushed most of his opponents: Pre Vizsla, a Death Watch Assassin, and General Grievous during their many battles. He even threw Grievous into the air, and then across the hallway in rapid succession. He can be seen lifting large stones (although Anakin was doing it too) He was great at the mind trick too, and was able to use Beast Abilities to tame Boga the lizard.

[@highgroundproductions8590]

+Darth Kenobi Obi-Wan easily force crushed Durge's Flamethrower, right after Tutaminis-ing fire from it!

[@minzuhagenda]

All of those techniques are common to all Jedi While Malgus Has Force Haelstrom Force Shielding and Deflection And Force Absorption which are rare Sith Skills

[@phire7983]

+Darth Kenobi youre forgetting the fact of obi wans impenetrable defense not even grievous could penetrats it and he even hit obi wan with 20 strikes a sdcond and then that made him back of a bit and then make him go offencive making him cut off grievouses arms

[@phire7983]

+Christiannm awesome i dont know if he mentions this cuz i just skipped to the end of the vid to see his opinion on who would win lol

[@finnishvanderlinder6096]

High Ground Productions grievos was not force sensitive so he didnt have force wall so its not really a fair comparison in this casw

[@FallenOne669]

While I do think Soresu is one of the best Lightsaber styles, I think it has to be supplemented with another, more aggressive form, in order to be useful in a fight.

[@KumaoftheForest]

That is what Ki-Adi Mundi and Luminara did, and that was what left Darth Zannah on her back foot often

[@brendan4425]

3:10 don't even try to defend Vader on that with "his limitations". HE HAD ZERO LIMITATIONS ON MUSTAFAR DURIG THE FIGHT. He was in his prime, was fighting for his love so he would stop at nothing, and had just felt the full power of the dark side. He had ZERO limits on mustafar. It was when he got his cybernetic Vader suit he was limited in agility. Even then, the suit have him more strength to overpower enemies.

[@AntoineBandele]

www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/battle-misconceptions-obi-wan-vs-anakin/96986/

[@theryumancer9639]

Pretty sure "Soresu" is pronounced with a short "e" sound, not a long "e" sound like "Soreesu". And the other guy in the video was pronouncing "Juyo" horrifically wrong. Not trying to be all "grammar nazi" here but it's slightly irritating. Well...slightly weaker than irritating but you know what I mean. lol

[@AntoineBandele]

TheRyumancer You would be a "phonetic Nazi" not a "grammar Nazi". But yes, I know what you mean.

[@EricGraham94]

Psychologically, people who correct everyone else's grammar has a form of OCD

[@theryumancer9639]

Eric Graham I might have that. Who knows?

[@captainkiwi77]

I came to the comments roses who else was going ballistic because of ju-ya

[@cadkls]

+Captain kiwi yup

[@Blade9e7]

You said he was the Reigning Master at the time but he was The Master of all time

[@lexxnewton]

Obi-Wan killed Maul, Grievous and Vader in prequels. The best feats of all.

[@AntoineBandele]

Alex Newton Byway of pot armor, his skill and his opponent's hindrance. You take those feats out of context. A huge pet peeve of mine.

[@Hazaroth]

He didn’t kill Vader

[@GamingCraving]

My only complaint throughout these videos is the overuse of the word tank.. other then that it is very entertaining, and informational in every aspect!

[@AntoineBandele]

GamingCraving I actually agree. I think that word comes up too often as well.

[@minzuhagenda]

So Malgus will rather become a Physical Education Teach rather than Math or Science Teach

[@einarmar7445]

police use malgus as road blocker: it would be worth the watch

[@JamesStray]

So could it be said that Malgus was a Djem So specialist with a Juyo mindset?

[@maxrichards3881]

Yes. However, Malgus was far too practical, so Juyo isn’t something he’d use. He’s not a hybrid of Bane and Vader, he’s just the Old Republic version of Vader.

[@TheTTTX]

another awesome vs video. Keep up the good work.

[@AntoineBandele]

Thanks friend :-D

[@lonestarknight1172]

OMG ANTOINE PLEASE DO THIS BATTLE!!!!! PLEAGIUS AND SIDIOUS VS LUKE AND ANAKIN AND YODA

[@Jay-629]

Spell Plagueis correctly and he might.

[@AntoineBandele]

+gavin castillo Traditionally the New York Yankees are better than everyone else.

[@theryumancer9639]

Antoine Bandele Because their talent is always bought.

[@jamesyoung7047]

Sorry but I feel like you're just shitting on Kenobi and not taking into account that Darth Malgus was trained in an academy that there is no rules other than strength. Kenobi also wasn't born and raised in the middle of a freaking war. Malgus was, albeit a cold war. So he would be trained in more peaceful ways than Malgus. Just an observation.

[@Murrdogg1000]

+Antoine Bandele Wouldn't Obi-Wan be able to parry and remove Malgus' hand, when getting into a saber lock, like he did against Grievous, and win the duel? Doesn't seem like Malgus wouldn't avoid a lock, since Djem So focuses on powering through, like when Malgus clashed against Ven Zallow.

[@joshuakei8925]

Malgus won't allow that to happen

[@dagamingdag6658]

Antoine Bandele could u do darth malgus vs Darth sidous

[@RealE1981]

Darth Vader vs Darth Malgus please

[@jediqueer6162]

How many times can you say Tank in one video, Guy?

[@martingamer5591]

Continuing with the sports analogy, you could have said that Obi Wan Kenobi is junior college basketball, and Darth Malgus is the Chicago Bulls

[@AntoineBandele]

Martin Gamer That also works.

[@matthew9256]

I was kind of expecting Obi-Wan to be the clear favorite, now I'm not so sure. I definitely ain't complaining.

[@TheSunStudio1]

Obi Wan won't stand a chance, I think some fan boys overrated him.

[@AntoineBandele]

TheSunStudio1 It's not so much that he's been overrated, it's just that his tactics are very effective against most of the opponents he has come across. Against Malgus though, it'd be a different story. Matthew P We don't play favorites here lol :-P

[@roberthanson3026]

good sports refference

[@LilT8]

an immovable object love it

[@kachow6099]

Can you do Darth malak vs Darth malgus? I've been looking for that matchup but nobody's done it.

[@AntoineBandele]

Hmmm ... possibly. My next season is pretty stacked though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp_OaXZ3fdV0aJo

[@kachow6099]

Hey thanks for considering the idea anyways. Can't wait to see the next season.

[@ReptarTheUgly]

He's basically a swordsman.

[@cadkls]

Who is 'he'?

[@killerdustbunny3205]

Does Malgus do anything wrong seriously, like i get it he's good, but he's not the bestSith ever.

[@brendan4425]

Personally I think Malgus is the best fighter, Bane and Plagueis may be the smartest and wisest considering bane put the plan in motion and Plagueis created Anakin, which was the final step of the plan. And the best sith of all time for me.. Darth Sidious. He managed to hide in plain site in front of the ENTIRE JEDI ORDER WHILE IN THE SAME ROOM. He was such a master manipulator it was scary, he turned a republic into an empire with the senate giving thunderous applause!!

[@robgeorge4581]

Well Malgus has really bad tactical tunnel vision which sucks on the battlefield, but in dueling this is rarely an issue. Force wielder wise, Malgus does not use Force Throw, Tutaminis, and other strong combative force abilities compared to the greatest. But that's all I could think of.

[@finnishvanderlinder6096]

Killerdustbunny 3 u dont need to be the best sith to beat obi wan...he only faced one sith (dooku and lost) so and ancient sith were even more powerfull than the rot era siths (exept sidious)

[@creed8712]

Brendan you seem to have forgotten about The true Sith emperor who brought both orders of light and dark to their knees

[@raicattivo]

Tunnel vision although he is a capable warrior he often focuses on his opponents to the point where he doesn’t take into account his surroundings

[@ottarsnryngvason3716]

7:44 Excuse me but I think you forgot to mention Mace Windu!

[@AntoineBandele]

Nope. I do not think Windu breaks Kenobi's guard. That is why Mace said Obi-Wan would be the best Jedi to face Grievous (when Mace could not beat Grievous in lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat himself).

[@ottarsnryngvason3716]

Antoine Bandele Ohh thanks.

[@ottarsnryngvason3716]

Antoine Bandele But since we're talking about this I think it would be interesting if you made a versus video between Windu and Kenobi. Just saying.

[@AntoineBandele]

Ottar Snaer Yngvason I have considered this. Not sure when I'd actually do it but it has come across my mind.

[@ottarsnryngvason3716]

Antoine Bandele It would be awesome if you would!

[@sithmaster4305]

After watching this video I can't help but wonder...Would Malgus be able to fight people like Exar Kun and other dark lords? I'd think a fight between him and Darth Krayt would be an interesting video in it's own right.

[@AntoineBandele]

Exar vs Krayt? I do plan on featuring Exar against someone else in a collab :-D

[@sithmaster4305]

Antoine Bandele That itself would be a good fight but I was thinking more of Kun/Krayt vs. Malgus. Krayt is Malgus's opposite in the future. He's a tank and he has extreme force abilities. I'd think he'd be a match for Malgus. And Kun is one of the premier sith lords of his era and he'd at least give Malgus a run for his money like Kenobi.

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Treize Khushrenada I think Kun would win against Malgus; he seems to be a slightly better swordsman and Malgus would have a very difficult time defending against Kun's more arcane Force abilities. It would be a seriously tough fight, but I think Kun would come out on top. Krayt, on the other hand, would get steamrolled by Malgus. Everything Krayt can do, Malgus can do better.

[@sithmaster4305]

DeusExMachina10001 I think you're seriously underrating Krayt. he has decades of experience. was trained by one of the very first sith lords ever. He fought with Luke Skywalker, was a general in the clone wars, he survived being tortured by the yuuzhan vong, ancient sith lords, and was able to become emperor of the sith. He has high skill in force lightning, and is skilled in various force powers. Malgus is strong and so is Krayt I'd think it'd be a slug fest for the ages.

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Treize Khushrenada Krayt isn't weak, but there isn't anything he can do that Malgus hasn't been shown to do better. He's got a lot of impressive feats to his name, but very few of them involve actually defeating opposing Force adepts. The strongest person he ever fought was Darth Wyyrlok, and he only won that duel by tricking Wyyrlok. Other than that, he has no significant dueling victories. He uses very basic telekinetic and Force lightning attacks in duels, notable only for the power behind them. While Malgus duels in a very similar fashion, he is a more overwhelming swordsman and Force user. It's akin to Vader's superiority over Plo Koon; they both fight in a very similar manner, but Vader is simply better at it.

[@blaze556922]

Huge Obi fan but his skills confuse me. If he has such a strong form 3 defense... then why is he always overwhelmed by Dooku even when fighting with Anakin, TWICE!!!! That doesn't make ANY sense...

[@AntoineBandele]

***** Because he had a weak Force wall against prominent Force users.

[@blaze556922]

Antoine Bandele He was kicked if I am not mistaken the second time. Yes, his force wall was easily broken in their first encounter I agree.

[@paulreuss2247]

he is willing to protect anakin thats why he lets himself get hit a few time but his forcewall was weak yes

[@billcipher9482]

New York Yankies are my and my grandpa's fav baseball team! lol!

[@alexanderafxendiou4773]

I merged with all 3 of my twin flames

[@DeAndreJaquess]

Dude Kenobi is a beast

[@AntoineBandele]

He is, especially in resisting pain.

[@jackbooth1710]

Have you considered doing some V's videos with The Wrath, Nox, Hero of Tython and The Jedi Consular from SWTOR (can't remember the last title)?

[@AntoineBandele]

Definitely not Hero of Tython.

[@jackbooth1710]

+Antoine Bandele why?

[@jackbooth1710]

+Antoine Bandele why?

[@Jay-629]

+Jack Booth He doesn't even have a NAME. Like seriously, what kind of a real name is "Hero of Tython"?!

[@martingamer5591]

What's the music at 4:24?

[@zaphon4966]

Lets see I might be wrong.......

[@kylelobb7736]

when are they going to have Darth Vader vs Darth Maul

[@AntoineBandele]

Kyle Lobb Happened already: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurrection

[@romera27]

... Good bye Obi Wan.

[@lonejedi100]

7:00 and that's why the new bad guy has a crossguard, stop hating on practicality people and grow up.

[@AntoineBandele]

Hah. Good point.

[@Fernando5455Jr]

+Antoine Bandele +Antoine Bandele obi wan does not at all have a weak force wall, it was in fact very strong if not better then most Jedi, go to Evannova 95 channel and see his obi-wan vs plo koon.

[@cadkls]

+Fernando Lagunas You saw the evidence, yet you still come to that conclusion. Interesting. Are you religious by any chance?

[@LilT8]

Expert in Lightning? Hell no

[@FoggyTheHippo]

Not to the level of Sidious no on else was close but Malgus was damn good at it.

[@Smoshbrp43]

i want to see luke skywalker vs qui gon or obi

[@ThatDragonGuy]

Like stomps Jinn if its epsiode 6 oneard and if its Grandmaster Luke then he stomps these two like butter

[@blntz1]

Obi wan is strong with the force he is batter than malgus

[@blaze556922]

High ground doesn't mean Obi was winning... that was just a way to get Anakin's arrogance, which Obi knows is rife in the troubled young man, to betray him.... It worked but wouldn't have against most opponents.

[@AntoineBandele]

***** Obi's use of the high ground was more a tactical achievement than him trying to play at Anakin's arrogance. He truly did not want Anakin to try and attack him.

[@blaze556922]

Antoine Bandele Agreed, I meant that in a sword fight, the high ground is in fact a disadvantage. I never understood his assumption that Anakin wouldn't attack.

[@AntoineBandele]

***** It didn't make sense but I understood the plot point Mr. Lucas was trying to convey.

[@blaze556922]

Antoine Bandele Yes, however, I could have written it better. The fight wouldn't have ended so anticlimactically.

[@Butterwinkle]

While this one is shaping up to be a great match up, I'm more curious as to know who you/other youtubers think would have won if Obi-Wan had went to face Palpatine and Yoda went to Young Vader.

[@AntoineBandele]

Sidious > Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan woud last as long as Fisto but not as long as Mace. Yoda > Anakin. Anakin had trouble following the speed of Sidious' blade when he fought Mace. Sidious and Yoda's speed are comparable. Yoda would outmaneuver Anakin and defeat him.

[@Butterwinkle]

Fair enough. So either way, Anakin was going to loose. Do you think Yoda and Obi-Wan could have taken Sidious together or woukd it just be a repeat of Sidious fight with Windu and Co.?

[@AntoineBandele]

Stewart Kennedy Yoda would be okay . . . but Obi-Wan would likely get speed blitz, but he'd last longer than Fitso.

[@maxrichards3881]

@@AntoineBandele Yup. Mace only lasted so long because his mastery of Vaapad essentially hard countered Sidious’s Juyo specialization.

[@blaze556922]

Obi used Ataru to defeat Maul before changing his style. Why would he change!? It worked!!! He proved in that moment that Qui Gon didn't have the swordmenship to handle a sith... Imagine if Obi had been trained by Windu! That would have harnessed his ability to feel rage, which is essentially what he did on Naboo. I feel like the only way I would join the Jedi would be under Windu. Everyone else is far too passive for my taste.

[@AntoineBandele]

***** Not necessarily. Mace failed to train Depa in Vaapad ultimately. Mace was a good warrior but his track record as a teacher was not as good.

[@blaze556922]

Antoine Bandele I was not aware of Mace's track record as a poor Master to his padawan. I only used that example because he is the best Vaapad using Jedi in the orders history. I feel like it is by far the best style. Utilizing the best of both sides of the force to defeat evil.

[@AntoineBandele]

***** In practice it was great. But Vaapad lacked a defense.

[@blaze556922]

Antoine Bandele Then how did Mace fight The Dark Lord Sidius to a draw? Vaapad is not weak in any area. It just leaves one vulnerable to the dark side. It take more discipline but I am not aware of any lacking defense. You know much more than I do about lore though.

[@AntoineBandele]

***** Users of Form VII opened themselves to Force attacks.

[@DarthWill3]

Malgus is getting this down, one by one, with his skill with the dark side. Obi-Wan will be no match for him! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[@AntoineBandele]

Initial thoughts made it seem close but then looking round-to-round . . . it seems Malgus was designed to defeat someone like Kenobi.

[@samking8845]

Antoine Bandele yeah it seems like its about how long Kenobi's defence will hold out to Malgus endless attacks.

[@justinreynolds2768]

Antoine Bandele In your Maul vs Malgus video, you suggested that Malgus was a practitioner of Djem so, did you and Jensaarai discuss this and disprove it or does Jensaarai not believe the same thing. From the swtor cinematic and his fight with Ven Zallow in The Jedi Temple, i agree with what you originally stated in the previous Malgus video. He uses more precise strikes rather than the chaotic blows typical to Juyo user. Love these videos, keep up the good work :D

[@AntoineBandele]

justin reynolds I just disagree and left Malgus' dueling section to Jensaarai1. I still hold to the believe that Malgus was a Djem So practitioner. The reason Jen thought Juyo is because of what Sith Warriors were usually using during that time period. Generally he agrees he is a Form V specialist but he puts more emphasis on the others.

[@cxm6204]

Antoine Bandele I think it is Djem so with Juyo to compliment and possible niman due to his application of the force.

[@TKanal3]

Malgus VS Vader?

[@Prince_Luci]

Where's the Malgus cinematic fights coming from?

[@AntoineBandele]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIHHe5d7e86fl7c

[@ReptarTheUgly]

Malgus damn near seems op.

[@AntoineBandele]

Not really.

[@darkangelofhell1234]

There are many siths that make him look like a puppy.

[@darkangelofhell1234]

+jaime ruiz of course. That wasn't my doubt. I'm just pointing out that in comparison to vitiate, and many others.

[@robh.3124]

Jaime Ruiz OP? What about sidious

[@EricGraham94]

Luke Skywalker vs Darth Malgus Luke Skywalker vs Darth Bane

[@AntoineBandele]

Eric Graham Luke Skywalker is coming, though not against those folks.

[@EricGraham94]

Antoine Bandele And will you still be sticking with the Legends/EU Continuity? I love that version of Luke.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Eric Graham You mean the op version that could shit on any other Jedi or Sith in history?

[@forkontaerialis5347]

2:53 I think you meant "father"

[@AntoineBandele]

What the heck? I wonder if it's been like that on all the other Malgus videos too? *checks* Ah! It's wrong in the other video too! And that video has been up for 3-4 months and you were the first to realize it.

[@forkontaerialis5347]

#first

[@Tyler_3]

OK, I know I'm late, but quick question. so I know angral picked adraas to lead the attack on t Jedi temple, instead of malgus, even though malgus was the better warrior. was adraas really that good of a fighter, or did angral to it just to piss off malgus

[@AntoineBandele]

To piss off Malgus and also Adraas was a more refined political figure within the Sith Order. At the time, one would do well to be both warrior and politician.

[@Tyler_3]

+Antoine Bandele ah , OK , makes sense. that's really cool. I always liked adraas

[@austinmesnard6286]

What episode in the clone wars is Savage Opress and Maul fighting Kenobi?

[@AntoineBandele]

Austin Mesnard Season 5. I forget which specific episode though.

[@jessicafielding8643]

+Austin Mesnard , they clashed in "revenge(season 4)" and again in "revival(season 5) "

[@mesaffairesstarwars4081]

c'est cool

[@THEREDWOLF333]

hey man can you do a Q&A

[@AntoineBandele]

Once my copyright strikes is lifted at the end of March, yes, I have plans to do a Q&A.

[@THEREDWOLF333]

cool man cool keep up the good work dude

[@THEREDWOLF333]

Antoine Bandele you know man your one of the only youtubers that are so conacted so good for you man

[@AntoineBandele]

adam plaeger I try. I think it's important to keep in touch. Reti4 is also very good that too, you should give him a gander.

[@KP-sx9zf]

Malgus vs Galen

[@AntoineBandele]

Kevin Polucha Didn't you suggest this a few days ago?

[@mrzombiesbo]

"JEW-YAH"

[@AntoineBandele]

I'm glad he says it right now. I have no idea why he said it like that in the past.

[@firestar4886]

Luke vs Bane.

[@AntoineBandele]

+Meowdude23 ROTJ Luke would lose.

[@firestar4886]

+Antoine Bandele I know but I in meant eu luke.

[@amsalkhan1846]

darth malgus vs darth Vader

[@AntoineBandele]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWqmmZmdZrh6fbM

[@finnishvanderlinder6096]

Amsal Khan lol malgus would only use his force lighting to kill vader cuz vaders armor was weak to it and sidious didnt want to teach him how to blok force lighting

[@monsermingch4106]

PLEASE, do shorter videos!!! I can't spend 45 minutes watching this... I'd really like to, but I simply cant afford it. from all your Versus series I've seen, I know that you could perfectly do in 10 minutes a 30 minutes video.

[@Jay-629]

Jensaarai1 usually does long vids, so I feel like this is his fault.

[@0101-c5c]

Song name at 0:22 please

[@AntoineBandele]

Music credits at the end of the vid.

[@storkval9643]

darth malgus is awesome

[@gulielmusmaximus9898]

Does anyone know the music between 3:25 and 4:35?

[@AntoineBandele]

Music credits at the end of the vid.

[@gulielmusmaximus9898]

Hi, I did check the music credits, but I cannot find the music I mentioned. Could you check it again? Thanks!

[@AntoineBandele]

All music collections are there.

[@connorclubine9730]

Than Darth Malgus in bad because the Yankees are pretty bad

[@gavincastillo2471]

But the New York Yankees suck lol

[@alexanderafxendiou4773]

Obi wan would be dumb to pick a fight with malgus