I'm sure you've already figured this out, but the springs are designed to be stacked. Ie; 5psi spring + 7psi spring will get you approx 12psi. Stack them all in there and youll get around 18psi. It just gives the user flexibility in setting their target boost.
@Jakelfin6 жыл бұрын
I tried them stacked and got it right.
@660barcelo6 жыл бұрын
ive been trying to figure out what to do and you have helped me i just got the actual 38 mm tial mvs wastegate and was trying to figure out what color springs to run...thank you now i see i have to stack them im running 25 ish psi in my big turbo focus now i see which ones i have to run thank you.
@jockbad4 жыл бұрын
RacerX85 what was the price?
@johnbogart7649 Жыл бұрын
Ya 😅ya I
@johnbogart7649 Жыл бұрын
Ya
@juiced716 жыл бұрын
I have the same one 👍🏻 Tho I used the brass washers on the banjo fittings one at the top and bottom the block off screws just screwed in . Thanks for the vid I tested mine and no leaks and popped off at 6 open at 7 I'm just gonna add a boost controller for easy measure 👍🏻
@BadLuckGarage6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just something to take into consideration though, the wastegate will also open sooner depending on the amount of backpressure you have. As an example, my 5.8lb spring opens at around 4lbs on the vehicle because I have an undersized turbo and the backpressure forces it open earlier. Whereas if I had an appropriately sized turbo it wouldnt open till around 6psi. Bottom line is most of the time it wont act the same on the vehicle that it does off the vehicle with a test rig like this. 😉
@johnathongogetem74187 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man
@HammerHeadGarage3 жыл бұрын
These are good for spring changes compared to the split clamp pita one I have.
@DONUTSKIE7 ай бұрын
Im trying to find an alternate for my broken tial 44mm ewg, I run 45psi and 800hp. You think this will hold?
@sgaragebmw3 жыл бұрын
Very good video and helpful 👍
@BoostedMonkey4g636 жыл бұрын
For some reason I think there is something wrong with this firing seat ring, The firing seat ring shouldn’t move at all the valve is the one should be doing all the motion.
@keithcannon36823 жыл бұрын
That is not correct. I have run Tial and the seat moves because it heat and cool cycles thousands of times. If it was welded and did not move it would probably crack. I believe the Tial seat is actually a different metal. On the VS racing it looks like stainless steel. I would bet that the Tial seat would work in the VS racing part. Other parts are interchangeable.
@gatiepiegpkleynhans13095 жыл бұрын
Howzit man I've got a question I've got this same gates I've put in the 2 bigger springs but when i pupe it up on the low boost port it only produces 0.5bar /7psi should I directly pipe it on the top side rather meaning on spring pressure it will boost 14psi and if I open the regulator to the top side I'll reach 28psi
@marcozamo20115 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for the fire ring to move in when the valve opens? (see 6:20 for example...) Thank you
@ishyne224 жыл бұрын
yes
@keithcannon36823 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kelvinleong9152 жыл бұрын
I just buy a new single spring rate 1.3bar it works,if double up will increase my boost?
@TurbineResearch2 жыл бұрын
More spring rate will make more boost
@mopar2ya1654 жыл бұрын
If this is a tial clone, will tial springs work in ir?
@keithcannon36823 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Geemoney652 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the VS waste gate from ?
@TurbineResearch2 жыл бұрын
From vsracing
@Jakelfin6 жыл бұрын
Springs should be stacked so you get right pressures.
@keithcannon36823 жыл бұрын
Technically you can not stack the springs. The way they are sized the one sits inside the other and so on from small to large. You can also run a small spring then run pressure above and below the valve (top and bottom ports) using a pair of boost solenoids along with the correct boost controller and it is thw beat way to control boost. At this point I would never run a manual boost controller and springs. That is archaic. Technology has surpassed this old methodology.
@jjwindell65222 жыл бұрын
Do they sell replacement diaphragm for them for serving later ?
@TurbineResearch2 жыл бұрын
It's the same as a Tial diaphragm so you can just get a genuine diaphragm
@TimFanslau912 жыл бұрын
Real tials work. Infact I swapped to a real one on mine as I heard the Chinese ones rip a lot faster
@kansasbondboat774 жыл бұрын
Can you clock the lid any way you want?
@TurbineResearch4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@_dirtyfab53373 жыл бұрын
What tool is that to check waste gate
@TurbineResearch3 жыл бұрын
Low pressure air compressor regulator from Amazon
@gx78574 жыл бұрын
so is this the vs racing from summitracing or ebay ?
@TurbineResearch2 жыл бұрын
From VS racing
@gregg81775 жыл бұрын
Can you provide any information on the regulator and gauge setup. Having trouble finding a 30-40 psi gauge. Any information would be appreciated!
I thought that the smaller spring was the highest psi! Now for what I see is that the widest spring is 6psi, the intermediate in width is the 7psi and the smallest in diameter and height is the 4psi. Can anybody correct me?
@vicjokoper81424 жыл бұрын
You have to stack the springs, thats why they are different diameters
@sanvirgovender35217 жыл бұрын
Quality?
@john-martin3 жыл бұрын
excellent, lasted me more than 5 years.
@timweb15103 жыл бұрын
@@john-martin the vs wastegate really was that good?
@john-martin3 жыл бұрын
Tim Web Yes very good. Im very happy with it. The diaphragm is still in great working order. Just took apart the other day to replace with a smaller spring and a new 4 port and all is well. Note: make sure the the 3 alan screws holding the valve to the diaphragm are tight when you buy and you’re good to go. Good luck
@Bville99gt7 жыл бұрын
Good video, I liked it... Subscibed to your channel now..
@pablomarquez44313 жыл бұрын
What if you add 2 or all 3 springs? Will it increases the psi?
@TurbineResearch3 жыл бұрын
Yes if you add all the springs it will make a ton of boost
@cenzolyksitruff6 жыл бұрын
Can you pair two springs and see what that will net you? im looking for around 10-12 psi, wondering if combination of any two will get me there. thanks!
@TurbineResearch6 жыл бұрын
Vinny Cambiano I run the small spring and the big spring together in my friends bmw and we get 10psi on the bottom of the gate only. We run the medium spring with a tee to the top and bottom ports of the gate to get 12psi.
@cenzolyksitruff6 жыл бұрын
2Step _Anti_lag truly appreciate your reply. Quick too! How’s the wastegate holding up so far?
@TurbineResearch6 жыл бұрын
Vinny Cambiano no worries I’m glad to help. We had some issues with the clamp on the inlet but other than that it’s been great for 6 months of boosting daily
@cenzolyksitruff6 жыл бұрын
good news! thanks again sir
@1080778545 жыл бұрын
For future reference i think adding a manual boost controller is easier than swapping springs
@armdrop1oh1775 жыл бұрын
not any different than the ebay stuff same stuff.
@Kaos101010015 жыл бұрын
Link?
@TurbineResearch5 жыл бұрын
Havoc Racing www.vsracing.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1310&osCsid=gkoqhqojxtsjme
@kevinarosemena75424 жыл бұрын
Same as the fake TiAL
@nathanchalecki48426 жыл бұрын
Are you the sloppy mechanics guy?
@brandoncoble46616 жыл бұрын
No he is not Sloppy Mechanics is the KZbin channel