Vyke as a Secret Starting Class in Elden Ring

[@toastwithamonocle5466]

The reason you have to be naked for the three fingers is actually because Vyke's armor protected him from the madness and gave him enough time to lock himself in the ever-goal, so now the three fingers just aren't risking it anymore.

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Ooooh I like that

[@icetide9411]

People also suggest that the reason he's not inflicted with madness in the evergaol is because he TOOK OUT THE INFECTED EYE. The armor made it so only one eye got frenzied, and he ripped it out, which is why you can get it as an item from the invader version. Vyke is just too cool, he literally tricked a world-ending god in multiple ways at once.

[@mackyer7909]

@@icetide9411tarnished archaeology is such a good channel

[@hattsbygaming2861]

@@icetide9411 So his eye is what invades us in Liurnia?

[@a.w_.]

@@icetide9411vyke is truly the main character

[@KaydenReimer]

I don’t know if you were actually asking, but the armour is burned because when vyke got touched he wore his armour, which caused his brain to basically start melting so the fingers were like “let’s not do that again” so they tell you to take your armour off

[@zer0vision891]

It's more that the Frenzied Flame needs to touch skin, and Vyke didn't have anyone to tell him to take his armor off. So instead of inheriting the Flame, he just lost his mind. The doors not opening if you're wearing armor is probably just a separation of gameplay and story so the player doesn't screw it up in case Hyetta isn't there to tell them to get naked.

[@JLeviNow]

I always just assumed that the FF was stronger when Vyke was there, assuming that's why it disappears when we get burned by them, it was the last of their strength.

[@cassweatherwax9559]

@@zer0vision891 it would be incredibly funny if you could try hard enough to get grabbed with armor on and it just perma-debuffs you/deletes the character lol

[@knotgradaunknown7414]

@@JLeviNow I think the implication is it has successfully possessed us so no longer needs its' physical body.

[@gregbrown3082]

@@cassweatherwax9559while spending 300 hours learning this game (my first souls experience), I would have LOVED them toying with the idea of and character gets deleted. Instead, I got by simply riding over any ridgeline (about 1000 times)

[@a.w_.]

I think it’s perfectly acceptable for the personas of these custom starting classes to see a massive serpent-killing weapon in the massive serpent arena and think “hm maybe I should use this”

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Yeah, it really is a "Gun that Kills Snakes" type situation

[@Daiquiri69]

I agree

[@icetide9411]

Rykard is literally not designed for challenge runs, so I think it's fine for challenge runners to not play his fight according to challenge rules. He can just be an exception is all

[@chimamire2011]

Random fact if you powerstance the serpent hunter with another greatspear (like vyke's spear) both spears will get the laser.

[@ledragondesel5516]

@@chimamire2011 but only one does the damage

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

This build sure goes crazy

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

A CRAZY run with SPEARS, only without the ending thats a crossover with a WITCH. Its uh... its a Ranni/Sabrina joke... I'll see myself out.

[@ACEYGAMES]

You asked about Vike's armour having the prints on it despite you not being able to go in wearing anything, I think it's related to the fact Vike also failed the frenzied flame. He was, for some reason, unable to become the lord of frenzied flame, hes not even a candidate for Elden lord. I'd guess the Three fingers skrewd something up with converting him. All of Vike's gear, from his spear to his armor is infected by the frenzied flame which sure looks like he went in with the stuff. Maybe you can't go in with your gear on because the Three Fingers' essence or buff or curse or whatever they do to you gets partially used up on your gear.

[@mathiasrubarth7430]

Absolute mad lad

[@nimaitre]

A very nice punchline indeed. I am delighted. I bet some may even miss this incredible play of words that was provided by you. Thank you very much for your services.

[@bigfellas4887]

Crazy?

[@grfrjiglstan]

Killing Gowry early in his questline doesn't actually ruin the quest. If you come back later, he'll just be sitting there like nothing happened. It's only once Millicent dies, whichever way that happens, that he's open for getting killed for real.

[@EternalSTAR553]

OMFG I THOUGHT I WOULD LOSE THE MILICENTS PROSTHESIS BECAUSE SOME DOG KILLED HIM THROUGH THE WALL!!!!!!!

[@TheDrEmu]

Some royal knight has been saving up his PTO to take a nature hike, and you kill him for a book he was bringing to his jar friends as a gift. He wanted to make up with them because he hasn't been as good of a friend since the shattering as he's going through some stuff.

[@cajs100]

PTO?

[@silly6517]

@@cajs100 paid time off (i assume)

[@wolfwood770]

I nearly went mad with the frenzy that Vyke spears into this build

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Glad you didn't. We need these comments

[@AnilSaulnier]

The reason the armor is melted but you have to take yours off is because Vyke wore his armor when communing with the frenzied flame and then was able to fight off their influence. They learned from that experience and aren't taking chances with you

[@rafaelbordoni516]

And they still can lose, what a sad state of affairs...

[@lwilson619]

@@rafaelbordoni516 I read that last part in Gideon's voice!

[@ThomB1031]

Miquellas Needle ftw

[@StanleyG23]

Fun Fact: You can just crouch near the ledge left of the Church, and Vyke will just fall off and die from fall damage.

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Accidentally did this in the next run haha

[@StanleyG23]

@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 Oh yeah, Gowry will also respawn if you kill Millicent. It's a very weird mechanic, but it makes it so you cannot lock yourself out from getting the Flock's Canvas Talisman. (You can see this interaction happen in taylorsnoore's "Beating Elden Ring using ONLY Holy Damage" run for example). So yes, you still could've gotten the talisman.

[@MorizonPlays]

The random leyndell knight having the lightning prayerbook is a leftover from earlier in development. In the pre-release 1.00 version, some prayerbooks are random drops from members of the respective faction (flame monk, blackflame monk, leyndell knight). They placed the flame monk and godskin prayerbook somewhere specific but for the lightning one they just moved one of the knights i guess

[@EmpireAnts42]

Or they just decided to give him it lol Some knights drop ashes of war too

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Weird shit, they should just give it to Miriel

[@shatteredspades3231]

Sell their houses to who Shabriri, the Three Fingers?!?!

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Shibriri is like "debate me" and then he sets you on fire

[@Chalepastel]

@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 let's say HYPOTHETICALLY that I set you on fire, now you are on fire, you are on pain, is that MY FAULT or the fire's fault???????????

[@sweetsovereignty7745]

Gowry respawns if you kill Millicent so you still could've gotten the Talisman he drops.

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

WAT HWO WHAY?

[@JustissRoss937]

I don't think you have to kill Milicent, I'm pretty sure he always respawns unless you complete his quest

[@JustissRoss937]

@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I don't mean to be mean or anything, there are many reasons you may not have noticed this, but when you kill gowry his exact line is "we will meet again, you and I, there are countless pests to choose from" so gowry isn't the a sage or a pest disguised as a sage; he's most likely an outer god possessing a pest that's disguised as a sage and he doesn't even get mad when you kill him

[@jaydeejay4166]

Run Idea: make a character that focuses on the red, blue, and green bars, don't level any stats beside vigor, mind, or endurance, use radahn's great rune and probably the amber medallions wear heavy armor and spam ashes of war with your unlimited fp and stamina while poising through and tanking everything

[@maximusprime6768]

I actually like this idea, he should do it :)

[@mrziiz6893]

RGB gamer run

[@anonymityanonymous7476]

Minor note: you want at least a LITTLE BIT of other stats so that you can wield weapons with ashes that don't scale with stats. My favorite examples are the Watchdog's Staff and the One-Eyed Shield - 24 STR lets you wield either (but not both, you're two-handing your poison of choice), with the first summoning a ring of eight projectiles that zoom off and aggressively home on targets after a moment and the second being a shield that is also a literal cannon. These tend to fall off a bit late-game due to that same lack of scaling that makes them so powerful at minimum stat investment, though.

[@jaydeejay4166]

@@anonymityanonymous7476 am using zweihander lion's claw

[@unironicallylikesranger7122]

I’d recommend a crucible knight secret starting class, except the only way to get there armor and weapons is either to go to the Azura hero’s grace or the deep root depths. The horns and the tail are neat, but might get grating against boss sized bosses

[@Fortesoulzero]

I love these videos so much. The little animations are always a treat!

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Cory really puts in the work for them!

[@Writh811]

I gotta admit you missed out on perhaps the only use of Inescapable Frenzy in Elden Ring PVE: While Gideon is giving his big dumb speech you buff and walk up to him and give him the ol' Ghostrider stare. The most fulfilling way to take him down in my opinion.

[@MFD00MTR33]

It's the only way to take him down. Have an upgraded Misericorde, dagger talisman, fire boosting stuff and use multiple buffs. Then grab that Not Knowing bastard and hug him to death. Feels so satisfying.

[@Nat-ri3ip]

If you kill Gowry and he say he'll be seeing you, he means it. He'll be there the next time you go to the shack.

[@intrepid_tank1547]

Vyke is definitely my favorite secret starting class

[@jackpollard550]

Easily your best video so far. Great variety in the writing and jokes, and those little Howls of Shapiro bits-flawless.

[@Deneb626]

I wish we got a pre-flame melting version of Vyke's spear. But seriously there is *1* greatspear in the entire game that can take AoWs and its the lance. Please give me Vykes spear and let me slap Storm Assault on it to cosplay Vyke at his prime

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Yeah, great spears are actually really good, it's just a.shame you can't mix up the ashes of war, or play a buff build

[@Notorious_BHG]

If the DLC is based all around what once was (I assume Miquella isn't dreaming about the future) maybe we get Vyke in his prime. I would like "Prime" versions of bosses - Melania, Radahn, Vyke... Renalla too!

[@thewanderers97]

​@@Notorious_BHGyou kinda got your wish

[@DarthBHorse]

23:53 correct me if im wrong, but i think you couldve used the serpent hunter in the offhand and still shot air beams with the powerstance attacks; therefore still using Vyke's spear to kill rykard.

[@MisterPudd]

That was patched out iirc so its serpent hunter or nuthin.

[@MinerDiner]

Oh my god the placement of Tidus laughing after the second "Cari-a manor" joke was literally perfect

[@johndipietro9301]

I think the idea of Vyke's armor is that he kept it on and didn't become a proper vessel for the flame. Hence why they lock the doors now unless you're showing skin.

[@zenebean]

What I don't get are people who don't like spirit ashes or summons but then use every other exploit imaginable to just skip fights they complain are bad. Also Vyke just rocks as a character, love a golden boy who goes bad and manages to realize his mistake before he lets himself fall any further

[@stevbe1723]

he's him, he's Jon Elden Ring

[@Nevrozac]

Only 6hrs of going through a third of the game and your "Vyke as a Secret Starting Class" is ready!!! That's crazy!

[@steviesbadtv]

Yeah he was supposed to start off with it, wasn’t he? Yet it took him a 30 minute well edited video…🤣🤷🏻‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@kxryot]

vyke's dedication to his maiden's safety is honorary sapphic behavior

[@lead_downpour8854]

Exciting! This is one I've actually tried out before, and despite madness not being useful for most fights, I still had a lot of fun. The frenzyflame spear ash is particularly entertaining even if it isn't the best.

[@RemingtonSteel]

Yeah, I tell people just act like the spear doesn't have madness. Boost your fire and Ash damage and you'll be fine

[@blueberrykodiak5843]

Been using Vyke's Spear in the Convergence mod and it's be great cause frenzy effects most enemies it looks like. If they dont have a madness animation they usually just take a big chunk like from bleed. Great video!

[@ScrapHunter42]

Vyke's armor isn't actually the same as the knight set, but I suppose it's similar enough. Main differences are that vyke's is slightly less bulky and has holes in the visor of the helmet

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

It's probably an altered knight set he got made after becoming more of a prominent figure in his adventure

[@Unclaimed_Username]

>not just using the frenzy grab on gideon Come on, man, that's like the BEST use of the spell. You cut his monologue off and give him a Penance Stare

[@waitingfortheequinnox]

The Vyke dance is the best secret starting dance for a secret starting class

[@TheMaskOfFairies]

3:06 He was probably a knight of Godwyn and was with Radagon during the war against Raya Lucaria, but maybe got cut off from the rest of his battalion and has been unconscious until recently. We currently have no proof that humans and/or Tarnished can die of old age in the Lands Between. My only proof of this age theory is that Vargram, Raging Wolf, was one of the first people at the Roundtable Hold and you can invade him in-game. That would most likely mean that he’s very old and, before becoming touched by grace, died of old age! And, please do tell me, WHY WOULD MARIKA BRING BACK A GUY WHO HAS DIED OF OLD AGE!? His body wouldn’t be able to function whatsoever! Anyways! That’s my theory on why there is a Leyndell Knight in Liurnia! The Godwyn part would make sense why he has lightning power considering Godwyn’s friendship with Ancient Dragon, Fortissax, and the War Of Gold And Blue would explain why he’s in Liurnia!

[@SendouRyu]

The fingers are frenzied with this build

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Should have used gloves

[@omenznc]

this video was really good the witty commentary was quick and good haha and the gameplay was helpful too thanks

[@JcOnJahhh]

for anyone wanting to do this, the flame of frenzy spell works best if you don’t lock on and just look down at the bosses feet. Basically acts like a shotgun cause all the flames hit the boss

[@dummy_vicc2976]

vyke's not the exception to the rule, he's an egg

[@AemonAkofakel]

I did this one myself a month or two ago, I found the ash of war was really useful against Malenia. I couldn't think of a themed spirit ash though so I got stuck without one.

[@EmpireAnts42]

Appropriate since my Vyke figure arrives tomorrow!

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Jealous!

[@thehotd0g8]

16:26 pretty sure vyke had no other maiden guiding him like you do so he didn't know about the don't wear Armor warning

[@SukixChaos]

subscribed because i just realize i haven’t seen your videos in a while and i missed the content. glad to see your back on my yt feed

[@VeeHarmony]

Vyke rizzed up a dragon, thats all you need to know about this chad of a character.

[@beanimationsYT]

holy shit i can’t believe that tulok got ben shapiro in this video

[@ericmasker6330]

This is probably the funniest video on KZbin, super clever and hilarious references.

[@nikita6169]

"Godrick the shafted" caught me off guard xDD

[@Taijuu1]

vyke used to have alot "fun" with a certain dragon named lansseax as she really favored him

[@MFD00MTR33]

Vyke is a 🐐. Landed a baddie like Lansseax, beat 2 shardbearers and tried to save his maiden. After going crazy, he locked himself away so he wouldn't hurt her. Vyke, I 🫡 you 🐲🐉♥️ slayer you. I wonder why Lancy really called him Dragonspear?

[@eroschama]

I love frenzy builds. Its a shame it doesn't work super good on the non PVP side... but it just looks so cool so worth

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Maybe just give enemies like a damage debuff, so they hit less hard? Idk, something simple to make it feel meaningful

[@eroschama]

That would be nice. I'd love if they buffed sleep builds in a similar fashion, but I guess it wouldn't even be worth that much when hardly anything in this game even procs sleep

[@Tigertom-wo8xr]

mods like Elden ring reforged five stuff like frenzy and deathblight a use in pve which I always find rlly cool, like frenzy does loads of damage and stamina damage on proc

[@eroschama]

​@@Tigertom-wo8xrthat sounds sick - I think deathblight would be really fun to make a build of but it's just soooo bad in the base game

[@btarczy5067]

No worries, the DLC will make all status effects useful in PvE, introduce two Faith/Int affinities, wrap up all the loose ends of the story and balance the smithing stones to perfection.

[@gregbrown3082]

No lie, literally every time I play your vids on speaker (instead of in my ears), my wife hears the Britney song clip from the next room. “What the fuck are you watching?!”

[@joearnold6881]

“Secret starting class… if by “start” you mean “play for twelve hours first”

[@tytofurcata1]

"pro tip. You can start the melee phase early by running up to him on your horse." This earns a subscription.

[@ruddertounge123fan]

Very funny commentary, love the video!

[@jdbly5934]

Burgertime rules...the game and the time of day.

[@TheUnamedOne832]

I was watching the older streams for this, but Twitch got annoying, and I never had enough time to finish, so I'm excited

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Hey, happy you get to see it

[@TheUnamedOne832]

@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I am too, I'll be trying to catch the next live summons only run your doing

[@hakunahmatata9103]

I think I’d be more afraid of fire the second time I was ignited. I was rolling dude.

[@ArclinusCastoral]

I had to go find that fitness pacer gram test remix. The music these videos use may be one of my favorite things about this channel.

[@calumv988]

Spirit ashes are my favorite because I love playing games with a buddy, and it's great to have a coop partner when you can't get a real one to play with u

[@armedweiss5531]

I think the implication with Vyke's armor being burned is that he entered the Three Fingers' room with his armor on, causing it to get burned and start melting but making him a failed vessel for the Frenzied Flame since it couldn't make contact with his skin. Maybe the Three Fingers made the rule that only naked people can enter after that.

[@fleurdeliseffxiv1580]

For more information search fingering vyke on your work pc

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Hey why is it already in my search history?

[@Raidon484]

"Take your armor off! The last guy who didn't... Well your armour should be telling you!"

[@Rafumbus]

The howl of Shapiro allows you to destroy your enemies with facts and logics

[@RemingtonSteel]

Howl of "shapiro" 😂😂 "Facts don't care about your feelings"

[@Technodreamer]

so many cool builds...someday I'll need to actually play this game

[@errornekochara]

He needs to redo this Challange.... because you can now get a humanoid dragon summon in the dlc...

[@errornekochara]

Also why didn't he get the fingerprint shield...? Isn't that part of vyke set-

[@errornekochara]

Tho why didn't he grab the finger print shield...isnt that part of vyke's set

[@chrismuratore4451]

Archer popping in with the Phrasing during the Godrick fight. Nice. That show is fantastic. Teaches you great drink recipes and the importance of always paying attention when in conversation so you can catch someone with inappropes phrasing. Also shit snacks

[@davidjohnson7563]

Why you always killing Alexander

[@Chimerathedragon]

Tbf he attacks you basically out of nowhere in the endgame and his drop gives a boost to weapon Skills

[@davidjohnson7563]

@@Chimerathedragon yeah but it’s not just attacking you he’s challenging you to test his new power that you’ve literally followed him getting and had him help you fight shit through out the game

[@nathanhendrickson790]

Why does Alexander have one of the best talismans in the game?

[@562.anthony2]

@@Chimerathedragonbro did not pay attention to his story 😂

[@mackyer7909]

best god damn elden ring youtuber

[@emerald2002]

Of course the Vyke run would have a joke about "frotting dragons"

[@fmcypher4823]

Much love for you and the videos!

[@grim1030]

I always thought the Leyandell knight painted the picture himself and that's why he's right there.

[@TheJasonpevans]

“getting burned is more scary the second time” casual ludleth reference

[@820_anemone]

"a special list that makes it harder to buy houses" was a godtier joke

[@persephonekoziol4333]

I think the reason that Vyke's armor is melted is because he wore it when he met the 3 Fingers. And that's why he failed to become the Lord of Frenzied Flame

[@Bosshunter12345]

If you stand still and press the dodging button you back step which is usable in swamp water like bloodhound step or the dagger step ash of war but can be used on any build just gotta have your back towards where you wanna go

[@GoofyAhhTv481]

This build is INSANE.

[@akiramura2790]

I was listening to this while working, and suddenly the begging of the fitness gram pacer test played. Pure terror

[@Shifsabre]

"Google frotting dragons on your work computer" as if I don't already do that

[@Andyconda14]

“I didn’t like that at all I’m just a burn victim now” 😂 welcome to the club 😭😭

[@QuestionableObject]

That Howl of Shapiro bit killed me

[@jahrn6]

A mile is 1,6 km - not 2,5 More importantly: A full plate armor is also not 25 lbs - more like 25-30 kg, which is around 55-66 lbs A full plate armor for a full grown adult, but still 25 lbs would be rather thin - so more for show-off and ceremonial, not for combat

[@daltonmallett1536]

As someone who has been ignited irl, I am much more afraid of fire now.

[@QuestionableObject]

Vyke prompts the question "Can a man be sapphic?"

[@KarhsXII]

hi! i've been ignited. it does genuinely get less scary the second time. bcause you go from "oh god what do i do im on fire" to "ohh yeah this again. this is bad"

[@ghostpants4357]

Let’s tulok uploaded

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

So true bestie

[@evanraiff7154]

The “Nobody Beats Cyclops” pun was so good I unsubscribed so I could subscribe again. Top tier stuff, Tulok, we are not worthy of your big brain

[@polish_idiot5430]

btw frenzied flame deals more damage if it hits the ground next to it's target cause of it's explosions, so it's actually better to shoot the ground underneath them for it to do more damage

[@RobertBrown-pr5or]

BURGERS!? i see a BugerTank around here, I'm going to be one-man cheese burger apocalypse

[@Dudeguy24burger]

15:49 based gamer

[@geofcowan4743]

You BASICALLY have 100% subscribers, you got this keep up the good work

[@ryanstocks4298]

Day 105 of googling what he says on my work computer. Have another meeting with HR in an hour to discuss "workplace unprofessionalism."

[@sidneyrobinson18]

22:20 has to be by far one of the cleverest lines I've ever seen in a KZbin video

[@theinfinitydie1582]

For the longest time I've wanted to recommend doing a run as Minecraft Steve, start as a Hero and cut various trees with an axe, the Limgrave Tunnel could supply the focal-point Pickaxe, you'd quickly have a gaggle of tamed wolves protect you, you could actually wear improving sets or armor. I've just never had the guts to since, technically, Steve fights mobs with a sword.

[@orums2606]

So according to the wiki, the artist who lived in that shack saw the final moments before death stopped. One angle is that knight is there attempting to get information from either the artist or from Miriel. Another angle is that the knight was hunting down the last vestiges of the blasphemous larval tears seeing as how leyndell has been wanting to wipe caria and the albunarics off the map for some time. But here’s why that knight is stuck there …he couldn’t figure out the riddle of the painting and just stood there trying to figure it out until time had lost his mind completely.

[@doctordisco5814]

Vyke started distrusting the fingers and wore armor when inheriting the flame. He then tried to undo what he did and thus put himself in a gaol

[@basboyjacob7966]

My day is made

[@tulokthebarbrarian2033]

Happy to help boss

[@chernobylthing3932]

Why the fuck are Elden Ring content creators always so good at wordplay

[@freeziboi3249]

I love the frenzy flame incantations I wish they had more 😭

[@fabiourbano6404]

I love that spear. it and the frenzy seal made me go frenzied flame ending.

[@Domintor-op7lz]

I see a lot of people talking about Vykes armour burning. To my knowledge, the three fingers didnt decide you needed armour off because of him. Thats not how that works. Rather Vyke didn't have a maiden to tell him the words of the finger. So when her went to the three fingers, he didnt onow to enter whilst naked. And so, his armour was burned. And he went crazy.

[@heisenberg4920]

Good run man seems like a fun build, trying it out now!

[@Sourlizard312]

I just wanted to say I like your choice in music. I love Radiant Dawn it's my favorite game of all time

[@lukeernst2101]

_Ben Shapiro voice_ 🤓 in actuality the frenzyflame seal is the best seal for this particular build as it is the only seal to scale with dex, which is the primary scalar for vyke's war spear. With 40 dex/40 faith (with minimum strength of 16 to wield the spear, and with starting prophet int/arc), the frenzyflame seal has a sorcery scaling of 233, beating out 2nd place godslayer's seal at 224. Even going pure faith after minimum 16 str/20 dex spear requirements, frenzyflame seal still beats out clawmark and dragon communion, without taking into account the 20% spell damage boost. At higher faith alone it does fall flat, but since it scales in 4 stats, at max level it is the 3rd best at 400 sorcery scaling, behind golden order (418) and dragon communion (415), massively beating out 4th place erdtree seal (367) 🤓