Wargaming's official statement regarding overmatching: "This is a rare situation that occurs because the autocannon mechanics are configured differently from the classic guns to not overload game server. We will make some tweaks for the 1.26 release and such situations won't arise."
@valentinollivier85775 ай бұрын
Definitly a bug, makes no sense
@gijsvandergracht80005 ай бұрын
Probably intended. During testing they probably saw that too many shots hit various funky angles which with normal mechanics too many shots would bounce and richochet, making a 100-200m engagement where you burst out, make it perform very poorly. They could then buff the gun tremendously but then it would obviously shred everything apart in 50m or cqb engagements, making it broken again. So I think it's intended to balance out the performance over various distances. You're bursting out a clip at a T-100 or TVP or STB at 75m, you'd expect to do a certain amount of damage. With these machanics, it probably works better. You'll still bounce shots that hit the strongest part of the armor but much fewer will get ricochets.
@mfg-music58755 ай бұрын
Should remove it and increase the pen slightly, so lightly armoured tanks dont suffer exponentially from that tank and it is somewhat more even between lightly armoured tanks and more heavily armored tanks
@alfgoodman23785 ай бұрын
If I had to give it a lore explanation it would be the repetitive concussive force would be my rational for the bleed effect of the damage. like a body shot to a boxer if you get hit once you might be prepared. But hit repetitively you start to feel the stresses.
@captain_context99915 ай бұрын
@@alfgoodman2378 Getting hit repetitively in the same spot would severely diminish a tanks armor too. But that has so far not been a part of the mechanics.
@nitroseeks5 ай бұрын
I can't wait to do the classic FPS move of reloading a 200 ammo clip after firing two shots
@SantaCandidaWer4 ай бұрын
I already do it with auto-loaders 😊
@matttypes26955 ай бұрын
It’s a Pz 1 c at tier 10
@BassBanj02 ай бұрын
I miss when that little guy was running around all the time before it was moved to a collectors vehicle
@megapet77727 күн бұрын
@@BassBanj0 I played it a lot when I was noob :D it was my chill tank.
@FNR5 ай бұрын
That "tapping" short-burst technique is how you fire autocannons in the real world.
@spysmocking45365 ай бұрын
Its called manual bursting in full auto 😅
@DasDaniel0075 ай бұрын
Every Normal user* 😂 America: Hold! its a Machine Gun! bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,.
@brealistic35425 ай бұрын
You know why? The barrels will melt ! One either has to change out the barrels like the mg42 or liquid cool them. With larger cannon this is a absolute requirement !
@brealistic35425 ай бұрын
I suppose you could fire them very slowly on open maps and wait to find maps with water to dunk your tank in to cool them. 😂
@spysmocking45365 ай бұрын
@@brealistic3542 Exactly. Hence why they soldiers change barrels on LMGs frequently
@peterchan90105 ай бұрын
All FV4005s tremble in its presence until they landed a shot on the Tesak
@longdongsilver44445 ай бұрын
Fr
@peppu325 ай бұрын
Fv4005: *spots tesak* SHIT SHIT SHIT FUCK *yeets a 183mm hesh at it* oh. Anyway
@arisenprestige57175 ай бұрын
The thing is pretty big, seeing it next to the 279e. It Might be an easy shot.
@aliciaschwarz49255 ай бұрын
Reduced to dust instantly
@derrickstorm69765 ай бұрын
Reduced to atoms
@xXLordYggdrasillXx5 ай бұрын
Tanksgg lists a new 'Ricochet angle' stat in the weaponry category between shell velocity and max range. This stat is only found on these new tanks and is set to 90°. So if this is a stat explicitly stated in the game files, then I am faily confident in saying that it is an intentional mechanic of these tanks and not a bug.
@antinotice5 ай бұрын
Let's hope it's a new system that will replace outdated overmatch mechanics for all vehicles eventually (which WG was planning to do) and not just special mechanic for vehicles with autocannons. Overmatch makes sense and it adds to the game but it's stupid how big of an advantage you get if your tank has 122 mm gun instead 120 mm or 152 mm instead 150 mm...
@Dutchman-20025 ай бұрын
@@antinotice sure sure, make it even more easier for brainlets autopen everything they snap at.
@vladdracul23795 ай бұрын
@@antinotice Almost like Russian guns get a stupid advantage, right?
@antinotice5 ай бұрын
@@Dutchman-2002 No, it would mostly stay the same but guns with similar caliber would be in the same "overmatch category" to make things more uniform.
@nl-oc9ew5 ай бұрын
So they've simply given these guns an caveat to the ricochet angle, an set their auto ricochet to 90°?. Seems ridiculously shallow. Small caliber rounds at low velocity like tha AP should bounce more.
@NotDave_x5 ай бұрын
The HE against low armor tanks is so incredibly satisfying
@Kanonemann5 ай бұрын
My guess is that if there is a Premium Tank of that kind is coming it's gonna be OP
@phannghiaorigami54555 ай бұрын
They actually have one , Vz 64
@DeadPro985 ай бұрын
I just looked it up, and to be honest the t8 premium is not that much better than the tech tree version. And in some aspects its worse. Its even bigger that the tech tree version and that will make it an EASY HE pen and even easier to aim at since it huge.
@jakobusswart13765 ай бұрын
Considering British wheeled mediums as a benchmark, yeah no...better than tech tree maybe, good vs all other t8 lights...definitely nope
@Nandos_very_perry5 ай бұрын
Hey QB you also convinced me to give the char mle 75 another chance when you gave it a shout out recently, man what a great tank! (Extremely fun and efficient)
@every_eve5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review so quickly qb!
@Black4Cook5 ай бұрын
i think this tank can be a good counter to fast tanks like the ebr. With autoloader you often have the problem to miss all your shots because of rng or just bad aiming. WIth the vz. 71 its much easier to hit a ebr because you can just hold fire for 4 seconds and some shells will hit.
@wtaustrian5 ай бұрын
was glad to be there help testing this new boy in the field, looking forward to getting tesak in wot
@nougan_gamer5 ай бұрын
LOL, "Auto-Mac-Canon"... OK Lord QB, that's what I'm gonna call them from now on!
@nubcake675 ай бұрын
Halo Starfleet fans have entered the chat.
@zerrierslizer15 ай бұрын
the only thing that makes sense in allowing the Autocannons to pen at those angles are to ensure that they can do at least SOMETHING if they end up alone against the likes of a Maus or other well armored vehicles without being forced to load gold.
@RichardSiegers5 ай бұрын
nah because in that situation you can just flank it and pen the side or back
@zerrierslizer15 ай бұрын
@@RichardSiegers fair enough. question is tho, do Wargaming see it that way as well?
@RichardSiegers5 ай бұрын
@@zerrierslizer1 nah wargaming is retarded they will give it 90 degrees in live server, i expect more people complaining about his mechanic than they did with EBR
@12733s5 ай бұрын
that's literally the exact opposite of why this is the way it is lol
@zerrierslizer15 ай бұрын
@@12733s then please explain. i only stated what COULD be a reason, not that it WAS a reason.
@johnrobb51555 ай бұрын
One thing I didn't see QB doing was burst fire to improve accuracy. Against slow moving target (FV 4005)in exposed position, use bursts of fire to increase number of hits.
@pallo_FIN5 ай бұрын
Was really fun testing these:) and also the tier 8 and tier 9 czech light can overmmatch the same way
@Daktangle5 ай бұрын
1,200 max ammo with 75 shell mag is only 16 fully salvos. So you really do need to think before shooting. Looks to be a high skill floor tank.
@Paciat5 ай бұрын
Lol, thinking is high skill?
@v1x4z4 ай бұрын
@@Paciat For most players, yes
@deadcheddar34913 ай бұрын
I recently acquired a Tesak and found it extremely frustrating until I saw your video and it now makes sense! Thank you QB, I'm much more enjoying this tank!
@SkylerGames5 ай бұрын
i feel like the need a "test map" for tanks, like before buying as they have done in war thunder
@MaximeTremblay905 ай бұрын
It's gonna change open maps at start by peppering random at starting point just to harrase ennemies. Same goes for reset open cap easily at random. Or bush where you suspect light... It's going to have more then an impact then wheel tanks I believe.
@longtravel17435 ай бұрын
Thanks much for the review, and for following up with the statement from WG letting us know that they will try to correct the "overmatch" situation before it goes live. It'll be interesting to see if they make some of the adjustments you recommend when they tweak the tank.
@DjFresh4lteFolie5 ай бұрын
7:38 i'd say 90% of players dont even know this armor mechanic even exists lol
@elboycollado90955 ай бұрын
Honestly the overmatch should be a unique mechanic to this tanks.
@RichardSiegers5 ай бұрын
no it shouldnt its too OP, i mean should all tier 3 tanks with autocannon also get this mechanic?
@Eppeltsy5 ай бұрын
@@RichardSiegers no tier 3 tanks have autocannon
@Sousleek5 ай бұрын
From my point of view it shouldn't. And not because it's OP, but because it's more of the stupid or buglike.
@neilwilliams46845 ай бұрын
@@Eppeltsy I'm not sure you're right there. Wikipedia says - An autocannon, automatic cannon or machine cannon is a fully automatic gun that is capable of rapid-firing large-caliber (20 mm/0.79 in or more) armour-piercing, explosive or incendiary shells, as opposed to the smaller-caliber kinetic projectiles (bullets) fired by a machine gun. The Pz.1C's 2cm Flak 38 seems to just about qualify. There maybe many more qualifying guns on different tanks.
@F1DrivingZombie5 ай бұрын
@@neilwilliams4684in WoT “autocannon” isn’t a type of cannon, it’s a game mechanic. By technicality yes other tanks may have autocannons, but this is a game and they don’t have to abide by Wikipedia definitiosn
@JasonPFK5 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to meet a tesak on Prokhorovka or malinovka with T-100 or Manti
@LukaszGoralski5 ай бұрын
7:20 the shells dont go through slopped armor. Its just that the new mechanic guarantees damage even if the shells don’t penetrate. Usefull for decaping
@lilwank96025 ай бұрын
how many times you gonna comment this
@explicitreverberation98265 ай бұрын
This tank will be shot through walls, through hills, and through buildings , and die in 30 -60 seconds just like everything else. If they can make a better game , maybe make some more tanks. Games pointless.
@trogdortamer485 ай бұрын
Yeah, not remotely true. You should be able to shoot the side of a Maus at 85 degrees and still damage it with some of your shells, but that never happens. It *does* overmatch every plate and ignore ricochet angles. It deals full damage for each shot when they pen those highly angled plates. Seriously, you don't need to test this yourself in game, just watch the video closely. Slow it down if you need to in order to see each shell is doing regular amounts of damage, but do bear in mind that the damage spread is +- 25 %, so don't try and pull some "Oh, it did less than 12 damage" sort of Bull poo.
@HeinzGuderian_5 ай бұрын
I know what my new favourite target will be in my arty.
@explicitreverberation98265 ай бұрын
The only thing that doesn't die 30-60 seconds into the game ! Go arty.
@liv12125 ай бұрын
Im just glad that they are adding tanks that are fun and also not OP
@mrnoodles11845 ай бұрын
i cant lie the amount of time you have to expose yourself to do any real damage is a real problem for me in this tank
@juanzulu13184 ай бұрын
Stabilizer bonus and Rotation Device bonus are combined MULTIPLICATIVE rather than ADDITIVE. So the result is lower than the added bonus.
@liamjamieson49175 ай бұрын
"Auto McCannon" - Quickybaby 0:38
@tudormese5 ай бұрын
This tank seems pretty noob friendly because it's scout role is secondary and you have enough firepower to fend yourself off. The turret traverse speed allows you to just autoaim at targets at close range.
@derrickstorm69765 ай бұрын
How ridiculous is it that the smallest and lightest kinetic round at tier 10 loses the least penetration over distance
@BattlingBiatch5 ай бұрын
having 247 pen with this round compared to large calibers is bs anyway. Another 2 minute-battle addition
@lazarus04204 ай бұрын
Looking at how this tank works, Honestly pair with a dedicated scout and use it as area denile for lite armored tanks, burst down opposing scouts and work out onto the flanks as often as possible
@ecash005 ай бұрын
Auto cannons? Are designed to Pierce and Bounce inside or Shatter, or cause Spalling. They are NOT LEAD rounds. Tungsten on the Penetrator part. The small part on the nose. The REST is the WEIGHT to Slam it into the tank.
@jeffmcarpenter5 ай бұрын
Feels like a tank that requires you to understand game mechanics, situation and context to play well. In other words, a unique, high skill cap tank. Well done, WG
@melikecomedy4 ай бұрын
are you a bot
@FrogOnAHorse5 ай бұрын
I genuinely think the pen angles should be a mechanic for these unless the devs want to increase pen drastically and change the magazine/damage ratio
@charlesb50075 ай бұрын
i'd figure they are allowing some to penetrate taking in consideration the latches, sights etc figuring some shells will enter. If thats the case pretty smart thinking on their part.
@jacobwhitfield58855 ай бұрын
I appreciate the sandbox testing to show off the guns.
@MrRedRye5 ай бұрын
Given that the ammo stats suggests an intentional 90⁰ ricochet angle, WG likely wanted some way to offset the shotgun like accuracy. However, even a 120mm DU APFDS penetrator will deflect above about 82⁰ and this thing is supposed to have regular AP slugs and APCR. They should probbaly drop the assured ricochet angle closer to 80⁰ to prevent some of the more ludicrous penetrations.
@anotherknight755 ай бұрын
I think the tank most close to this is the Char Mile 75. I think this will have a difficult skill cap overall.
@derekl.92025 ай бұрын
Tesak seems like it could become a finisher, not an opener, if it manages to survive that long in a match.
@SoccerBro4Life5 ай бұрын
Another improvement would be that Shell Velocity- I think improving that would also help this tank
@EmperorNefarious15 ай бұрын
First new tank I've been interested in a long while.
@meaninglesscog5 ай бұрын
Love the K-91 asking for no cap since its "Test Server". They must not have been around when WG introduced a bug with a patch that only one tank's cap points counted towards the capture. You gotta test everything with these guys.
@wilhelmfruchte72455 ай бұрын
my first thought: best counterpart vor Borat, Char etc. But i hope it wont spoil the match before balancing is well done like EBRs did.
@jakobusswart13765 ай бұрын
No ricochet makes it seem like 1 of its best uses may just be anti EBR since funky angles are no issue(Still wheels but hey its something!)
@arhangeo5 ай бұрын
"Special" shells in Overwhelming fire event do guaranteed damage even when they dont penetrate. It says so in the tooltip. Maybe this is something similar?
@GoatingVirtual5 ай бұрын
One way or another, I’d say it makes playing more enjoyable. Otherwise, I would struggle with most tanks due to the 2 Calibre rule. It must be intentional.
@ohmbre3005 ай бұрын
That was a lot of fun watching you play, great vid.
@runzeeducation56215 ай бұрын
Tier 10 looks great, but... To reduce server load they need to abstract down the ROF for some tiers, no 3000 RPM please! And then they can make damage per shot a little more consistent with lower tiers!
@mateharris5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the extra testing.
@rogiemargomez81745 ай бұрын
So basically vz 71 is tier 10 version of pre nerf pz1c only without shells indicator?
@sheabrockhoff22795 ай бұрын
I feel like rather than being 75 round magazines they should have been implemented without having a magazine but instead have a “barrel overheat mechanic” where let’s say if your fired for 4 consecutive seconds you’d suffer a 20 sec cooldown or something similar. But it would let you maybe fire for a couple seconds in bursts every few seconds mostly uninterrupted. Would let you dump out a bunch if you needed to while being rushed, but also let you peak out, dump out a few, pull back and repeat every few seconds without waiting out a reload after a couple times
@evanlawrence72895 ай бұрын
Ebr is shaking in it’s wheels
@KingArthur953644 ай бұрын
Until it realizes that you can't hit it with this thing. Based on the shell velocity, the amount of lead that you would have to give an EBR rolling at full speed would be insane.
@LegionWolvesАй бұрын
Does nothing lol
@eqquilibrium5 ай бұрын
Interesting, would also like to see tests conducted using the two different ammo types at different ranges / against different armor thickness & slopes too!
@sigmamalegrindset1325 ай бұрын
this tank seems super fun and one of those tanks which are rly good in long games.
@LukaszGoralski5 ай бұрын
7:20 the new mechanics guarantees damage even if the shells don’t penetrate. That’s why the deal dommage to slope plates, but they don’t really pen
@LukaszGoralski5 ай бұрын
Ps very usefull to know for decaping
@DeadPro985 ай бұрын
I hope QB pins your comment this is a big deal. People should really know this. Thanks
@jibrilherrcherofhorny44485 ай бұрын
They actually do pen on a strv 103 frontally I dealt 900 dmg with ap
@marlisonbreno89555 ай бұрын
If you look much more you see a Bmpt t72, the hull is very similar to the t72 hull
@zeroyuki925 ай бұрын
I would buff the view range of this tank to 400 and maybe buff the shell velocity a little bit so it can be a bit better at its weak points while not overbuffing its strength, and maybe buff the HP a little bit yes. Keep the rest of stats for now until we have more data from live server.
@yandapanda97475 ай бұрын
this bank might actually fall into random battles without too much fuss, apart from the overmatching it seems relatively balanced
@aquasalim27755 ай бұрын
imo, for crit module... is no. its okay, like if you have crit dmg module like 13 57 with tesak it will be broken.......... if all shell pen.
@strategicmind26525 ай бұрын
I think T3 Fire control system, vert stabs and rotation device work even better
@Gate0r5 ай бұрын
I’m gonna bounce so so many shots when I try shoot at these now you’ve said it’ll be overmatched by pretty much anything
@michaelrexrode52875 ай бұрын
Cannot wait for this tank. This tank is going to be fun. Now I wonder when the premium tier 8 will be released?
@Ima9ineBreak3r5 ай бұрын
I always wanted a TX Luchs. Now I can basically get one.
@timmcgreal80245 ай бұрын
When is the next patch update in the US? These tanks look fun and frustrating at the same time! GGs QB!
@dilophosaursniper53995 ай бұрын
Tesak go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
@migasANG5 ай бұрын
This is just a theory, but since the bullets are being shot so fast and hiting the same target so fast, maybe the server is misscalculating a few of the rounds and having them ignore some of the statics for a pen, making it a bug due to bullet over-spam (Also, if HE reduces the damage due to armor by %, it still should do a good damage but if the damage is reduced by a set number, he will be pretty much useless as it wont even do 1 damage by colateral explosions)
@azi2g5 ай бұрын
He will do 1 damage regardless if it hits the armor. For the Tesak at least. Special mechanic.
@migasANG5 ай бұрын
Fair enough @@azi2g
@Momomaster255 ай бұрын
I have a feeling the inability for these autocannons to deal internal module crits is an intentional choice, to prevent you from critting somebody's whole crew and instantly killing them. If you play the ELC or Manticore, with 2 crew; very rarely both will be damaged in one penetrating shot and you will be instantly killed (despite having loads of HP left most of the time). Imagine being a T 10 medium or light player and eating a center mass burst to the side, lose ~450 hp but instantly die. Would probably be un-fun as heck to fight against.
@lankypanda15 ай бұрын
the overmatching stats on the tier 8 same angle all the way to tier ten so tier 8 going to rather nuts to have this is this goes all the way to live
@TracerX4 ай бұрын
Can't believe they added my covenanter to tier 10. Im gonna have some fun.
@qwqmartin91625 ай бұрын
Consider that we won’t really snipe in this tank, I honestly think we should at least make our first equipment setup towards scouting.
@What_Other_Hobbies5 ай бұрын
This ammo setup is how WoT should have on all, similar to arty shots. With more pen, you are dealing with less damage. i am wondering if low tier autocannons will get changed to the same as this one.
@sigmamalegrindset1325 ай бұрын
looking forward to the tier 8 prem review when it comes out, 800 clip on tier 8 is crazy
@norbertangler63355 ай бұрын
The tan, should have more pen, better camo and more hp. Than it would be great. Like this it is not the best tank, but probably ok.
@Ch4fM4n21 күн бұрын
Late to the party, so someone might have already said this: Could it have been the dispersion occasionally hitting the backside of the maus' superstructure?
@Nem_NC5 ай бұрын
8:00 so it could be a new mechanic that could be called armor degradation/saturation?
@BeefIngot5 ай бұрын
I think the high pen rounds could just be called high pen, since they aren't really premium as they lose damage.
@princeofhyrule22055 ай бұрын
Armored Warfare has had auto cannons in the game since it was released in 2015. They r actually fun in that game
@jort2815 ай бұрын
Wot has had them too on low tiers for ages. Not sure why he said they were new.
@chanceyarborough3813Ай бұрын
T110E4 spinning around is so funny lmao
@drhuron85 ай бұрын
This is going to be fun....and that is what I want to see feom this game these days...simething difderent, something fun:)) thx QB for great preview...;)
@Miru_Man5 ай бұрын
Could you do a side by side video of the 2 reticals blooming, one with stabs one not, to see how much it changes?
@fili09385 ай бұрын
You might want to get the shell velocity skill on this tank
@jcmazss5 ай бұрын
QB needs to play Counter Strike and master the art of using the AK spray patterns
@onlyskillss97545 ай бұрын
platoons of 3 of these will be nuts
@epicsnowleapard5 ай бұрын
Can't have more than one LT in platoon unfortunately
@0chuklz05 ай бұрын
The real nightmare for this tank will be a platoon of them. Nothing will survive a coordinated attack.
@letacodilesupreme64454 ай бұрын
given that it's a light tank it can't have more than 1 of them in platoon, LTs are limited to 1 in a platoon only at T7+
@vyteniskajackas75795 ай бұрын
Feels like this tank overall is WG just testing, what can be done with ammunition. AP and APCR not having 3x caliber rule, HE always doing damage, special ammo has more pen but less damage. The only thing not changed is HEAT.
@DuckDodgers23505 ай бұрын
This is going to be brutal for scouts hiding in a not so obvious bush.
@nextoday5 ай бұрын
Why no mention or testing of the Deadeye skill? I'd think it would be great fit for an autocannon if the bonus is applied to each round fired.
@Belsnikel5 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, love your content. Question. Would you recommend to grind centurion line or vz 71?
@ralts64645 ай бұрын
Wg: how to balance ebr? Makes czech light tanks
@jakecoyne39195 ай бұрын
I would hope they leave it alone cause you have to shoot them for like 4 seconds to get 900 damage. That means you have to be vulnerable for that long as a light tank. Least they can do is give some weird angles to make there a reward to the risk
@DukeOTN5 ай бұрын
I think ultimately it’ll be a problem for about a few weeks or months, then the skill ceiling will come into play and people will understand how to counter this tank
@robertflint41155 ай бұрын
At least it's something NEW 👏👏👏........🤘😎 Tankers
@petergorrie10135 ай бұрын
Question: Is this Wargaming's counter to wheeled vehicles.
@Zt3v35 ай бұрын
I don't like playing T10 that much so I'm really hoping the 7-8-9 are fun tanks too.
@sarodorethedragon98654 ай бұрын
31:07 i had to do a double take with that k91 they put. a RADAR. on the back of a main battle tank... Why?!
@gavincross29025 ай бұрын
Great video!!! I see your teamplay style now QB... lol You stay with the majority of your team and let flanks and arty fall. 😂
@thunderchild3035 ай бұрын
Dead eye will be great on this to set those fires
@Washinyot5 ай бұрын
being a war thunder player that overmatch thing my just be the secret explosion filler in the shells doing HE damage
@kingstoler5 ай бұрын
The Vstab is going to be way more useful on the move