Whenever I'm feeling down I watch a W2AEW video and the world doesn't seem so bad anymore. Thanks for all of these great video's you've made.
@w2aew2 жыл бұрын
W2AEW video therapy - love it!
@kamurashev7 ай бұрын
Almost exactly how I did it back in the days. I used a 8-12mm drill bit sharpened as a trident so that the central pin was a very bit longer than the side ones. It allowed the bit to center itself when operating. I used a simple hand operated drill to cut stuff. Later I switched to a piece of hacksaw blade sharply broken so that I could cut the rectangulars. I was 14-16 when I did the most of my experiments. Before the things went so messed up. And now I don't even have time for it which makes me feel really bad. I'm just working and working for my family to have a roof above their heads. After we had to storm out when that hell in Ukraine started. Thanks for the videos again - it's like a fresh air breath.
@marcosbarros80693 жыл бұрын
I've worked most of my life with crystal oscillators, but never came across such a handy construction style: Manhattan! Great, and thank you!
@acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE3 жыл бұрын
Really useful video thank-you. Rarely can you see a video which takes you through all the stages from schematic to function. Great!
@chemicalvamp4 ай бұрын
I have never seen anybody assemble a circuit board like this. Very cool, And for how old this video is, you must have had a serious camera.
@mheermance8 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful. I have been thinking about building some RF circuits and heard that Manhattan style construction was a good choice. So this was a good overview of the technique.
@matthehat10 жыл бұрын
That nixie tube frequency counter is gorgeous!
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
Thanks - that's one of favorite pieces of equipment!
@dancross20897 жыл бұрын
FYI, something I've found helps with the "grabbing" problem: take a slightly damp paper towel, put it on the drill press's table and then set the circuit board material on top of it. The moisture in the paper towel makes the entire apparatus much steadier which helps with drilling the islands; It also makes cleanup a snap.
@w2aew7 жыл бұрын
Nice tip - I like it!
@dancross20897 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love your videos and always come away from watching them feeling like I've learned a tremendous amount. 73 de AC2OI
@urugulu16565 жыл бұрын
thats actually similar to what professional Chefs do to avoid their cutting boards slip all over the place
@NewbergUSA5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video example and explanation. Caused me to watch some of your other videos. Built the ckt and it works well with xtals in the 2.5-13mhz range. I wanted a 1mhz crystal calibrator and found I needed to change some values to get it to oscillate at 1mhz. Changed the 10k base to gnd to 6.8k. Changed 470pf B-E cap to .005uf. Changed 470pf Base to gnd to 820pf (a .001uf would probably work too). Works great. Now installed in a DX-160.
@robertcalkjr.83255 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan! I am tired of Chinese companies locking MC's so that I can't save the data to program a new MC if for some reason the one in the device gets knocked out. So I built one of these Colpitts oscillator's to test crystals with! I have a whole bunch of 2N2222A's, so I used them. According to the datasheet, the 2222A has 50MHz higher transition frequency and 5pF less input capacitance than the 2222. It is working great!
@KubuntuYou10 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I've never seen this prototyping style before. So easy to soo where everything connects.
@cymeriandesigns8 жыл бұрын
This was great. I've been looking for a video that went thru the whole process of a Manhattan style circuit construction. Thanks so much for making it.
@sidewinderam9m3 жыл бұрын
I used to painstakingly cut tracks in a circuit board with about a 3mm diameter diamond wheel bit but this looks way easier. Diamond holesaws can be purchased pretty cheap on eBay. Thanks for the video.
@delron443 жыл бұрын
superb vid, was looking for a 6 mhz colpitts, worked first time, thank you for posting.
@standishgeezer6 жыл бұрын
For those (like me) who don't have a drill press , take a piece of wood about 1/4" thick (and long enough to hold) and drill a hole in it about the size of your diamond hole cutter. Press the piece of wood on top of the copper clad board with the hole over the point you want to cut your island. You then have a guide through which you can pass the diamond cutter.
@JohnRaschedian6 жыл бұрын
This was a nice and interesting video! I have not built anything in about 30 years. I think I'll build something now. Thank you :)
@JohnRaschedian6 жыл бұрын
I did actually start to build a power supply that I have been postponing for the last 4 months probably. Although you could get a second-hand professional power supply on Ebay for around $40, building it is a lot of fun. I thank you for the inspiration sir!
@joshbowman40605 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting that. I had no idea how folks made those prototype circuits. You made it look easy.
@byronwatkins25653 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this prototyping method before. I can see definite advantages since every node except ground is a star.
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
Never seen this style in action, great video !....cheers.
@jlfqam9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the schematics. It worked well. Some of the crystals showed nice and other distorted sine waves. I managed to rip off the protective canister using an iron file, sharp wire cutters and a thin flat screw driver, as can openers. Aiming a 5mW red laser pointer beam (with laser class glasses protection) on the bare crystal turned the output signal unstable without changing the basic waveform. Also tested resonators, some of which produce square waves, and managed to open the can on one of the miniature oscillators in HC 49S packages to see how nice and delicate is the crystal.
@copernicus6334 жыл бұрын
I love his presentation-so to the point, without a lot of irrelevant chatter.
@ve6kk3 жыл бұрын
Just saw this Alan; I wish I had it for tech students doing RF projects - excellent, exactly as it should be done. Another method - I got a metal punch to make and glue PCB islands to the board but it is not as easy or nice looking. Always a pleasure to watch. We use your videos now for our ham classes. One habit though that I encourage is to connect ground clips first - to prevent ESD and also surprises when measuring HV. Cheers
@Steve-GM0HUU3 жыл бұрын
I have only just started having a go at building RF circuits using islands or pads. So far, I have found some pros and cons with each method. The pads have lots of advantages as they are easy and quick to glue onto the copper clad board. They can also be moved or removed if required. Additionally, they help to raise the components off the surface slightly (reduces risk of shorting to ground) and helps to keep lead lengths really short (reduces unwanted capacitance and inductance). You can also use very small pads that take up less space than islands. The disadvantages are that you have to make or buy the pads. Also, if you pull, twist or bend leads of components already soldered to a pad, it can become unstuck. So, obviously, big advantage of the islands is that they are permanent (though this may be a disadvantage during development) and, once you have a cutter you can drill as many as you like (at least until the cutter wears out). Use the method you are happy with or best suits the task I suppose. Just some thoughts on what I had found so far and certainly welcome any thoughts on pads vs islands.
@alijabari87155 жыл бұрын
what an interesting methode! every time I come here I learn new things from you thank you for sharing these things :)
@nunogue10 жыл бұрын
This case caught my attention because i had a bunch of unmarked chrystals lying arround and i didn´t even knew if they would work or not. So i built the oscillator. I didn't use the island cutter method (used a common prototyping board) but i found the method and your expanations extremely good. Probably i´ll give it a go in the future. Anyway, in the end i found out that a lot of those chrystals i had didn´t work, even some marked ones... It was a lot of fun and useful stuff. All this to say: Thanks.
@subhasarkar88234 жыл бұрын
Nice method. Will try to follow this neat and clear way of circuit build. I feel this method has significant lower parasitics than breadboard.
@LEDbulbumr55712 жыл бұрын
I think this is the one of the best KZbin video channel for radio amateurs best 73s AP2GA
@Tom-q9h7l7 ай бұрын
Rather the worst...
@UpcycleElectronics7 жыл бұрын
I built this circuit, and it works. I didn't have my yuppy 'Upper East Side Manhattan' hole saw handy. I just cut up a grid of small 5mm square islands from the copper clad and hot glued them 'Haarlem 'n Handy' to the ground plain board. Hope your feeling better Alan and the ankle is healing quickly ;)
@w2aew7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it worked well for you.
@lynnhancock86413 жыл бұрын
I tried this today and it worked great and it was fast! I glued little squares of copper-clad for islands but going to buy a rotary spot welder cutter bit from Harbor Freight tomorrow. Was able to check out several unlabeled crystals.
@MrBoriswart8 жыл бұрын
Seems like a quick and easy construction method. Thanks.
@Inspironator4 жыл бұрын
I like the island method. It is easy to set up. I already have diamond circle cutters of assorted sizes, which were made for cutting holes in tile. This is an improvement over the dead bug method because it is easier to visualize the schematic with the island connections. It's easy to add features to support testing and troubleshooting. No delays for pcb layout and prototype manufacturing... And it can even be used for RF work. Very, very nice! Thanks w2aew.
@zerovolt24 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to make a qualitative analysis of the performance as an oscillator by observing the shape of the trace on the oscilloscope and a measurement of the output power. I've built one (different capacitor values, 680pF) and crystals up to 9MHz show a distorted sinusoid, like the one you get, more or less, whereas with 12, 16 and 20MHz I get a practically perfect sinus shape.
@1903A3shooter10 жыл бұрын
Great Fun, it worked the first time, it was easy, I learned a bit more and I did not burn my fingers. Thanks, Dave
@jonbonne10 жыл бұрын
excellent video, i really enjoyed it! i've only utilized the toner transfer etching method, but i really like the simplicity/minimalist approach to this prototyping model. i want to try it asap.
@octavmandru92194 жыл бұрын
I keep re-watching your tutorials; every time it is a new experience. Thank you, Alan. Can you please continue the series of the Basics? Happy New Year!
@DarrenLandrum10 жыл бұрын
Do you buy your boards with single-side or double-side cladding? I'm thinking about building a (relatively) simple analog synthesizer, and I want to use single-clad board with the circuit on one side and the front panel on the other. Thanks!
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
Typically - I pick up whatever I can find cheap! Usually, it is double side cladding, which is good for the RF circuits I make. You could use double sided for your project - just polish up the copper with steel wool, sandpaper, etc. and coat it with urethane and it will make a nice brushed copper metal finish to your front panel.
@DarrenLandrum10 жыл бұрын
Ah, I was thinking of going single-sided and then painting the unclad side, but that's not a bad idea either. :) Thanks!
@Frank555 жыл бұрын
What a nice clean workbench!
@shvideo13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and test circuit. Thank you for putting this video together.
@Steve-GM0HUU3 жыл бұрын
Some good tips thanks. I like the addition of the little ground loops for clipping on test leads.
@acmefixer17 жыл бұрын
Nice clean assembly & test. I noticed the waveform isn't quite symmetrical. Is that because the xtal is overdriving? I would have put a DC blocking cap between the socket and base. This allows testing parallel resonant tank circuits without shorting the base bias to ground.
@chasihler10 жыл бұрын
Entertaining video Alan; how do you cut your PCBs so nice? Assuming you haven't bought a grab bag of small cut boards ?
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
In this case, I did obtain a small pile of small PCBs (from QRPme as part of their Manhattan Chowder kit). But, I've had good success wil a few methods like: scoring both sides with a knife and breaking, using tin snips, using a a jig saw, etc.
@FullElectronic10 жыл бұрын
What's the range of frequencies in this case? for example using two 2n2222...
@usuthu656 жыл бұрын
These videos are outstanding. Excellent conversational teaching style. Question: I noticed that your oscillator waveform has some higher order products in it as you test the two crystals. Do you cover this topic in another one of your videos or was that a characteristic of the crystals you tested?
@w2aew6 жыл бұрын
This is very typical of simple oscillators or this type - not so much due to the crystal, just the nature of the simple single-transistor oscillator circuit.
@usuthu656 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thought it useful to have that in the comments record here in case others noticed it. I'll go read more on oscillator harmonics.
@RicardoPenders3 жыл бұрын
Another cool little useful circuit, you keep on giving these nice treats to us. Thank you very much for sharing. I probably going to put this circuit together myself on a protoboard because I have a bunch of crystals too that I've taken off some old stuff that people throw away and I have no idea if they are working or what frequency either so having this circuit is pretty handy to have for testing the crystals. If I keep going like this I'll have all these nifty circuits from you for myself and I think I'm saving a lot of money by making these circuits myself from junk parts, some parts are new but very cheap, however with these circuits always handy I can do a lot of different things already and I don't have to go and search and spend tons of money on professional equipment that do pretty much the same thing. Man, I feel lucky to have found your KZbin channel. I wish you have a great day. Ricardo Penders.
@rickvia84352 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Just a tiny bit of crossover on the + side.
@TheLightningStalker3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about using the bottom as +Vcc on a 2 layer board? It would even add a few pF of filtering to the supply.
@w2aew3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can do that. Often times, VCC are plane layers in a multi-layer board. In this case, you just have to take care not to short VCC to anything (chassis, etc.).
@Satchmoeddie8 жыл бұрын
Hmm? So that is the Manhattan style? Okay then, interesting, and quite effective. Not quite as crude as "dead bug style". I was etching boards with ferrichloride when I was about 10 years old. Any lacquer based marker makes a resist pen for the etching fluid. The "Industrial" Sharpie is one that works really well, and for RF shielding dead copper / large ground planes, just brush on some lacquer paint. My first hand rendered through hole PCB artwork, taken from a schematic, for etching was the Fender fuzz wah/volume & tone pedal for guitar. It had an op amp, or two, and a couple transistors, & all the passive stuff. Not a great choice, but it works, more or less. The combination rocker & twist pedal case proved impossible to locate or build without some difficulty.. My very first PCB was taken off a photocopy, of the PCB traces & pads. It was a bootleg pay television descrambler. I used dry transfers on it. What a tedious pain in the neck, only lower! 73 KI7AQJ
@EdEditz7 жыл бұрын
Oh those descrambler circuits. They never worked.
@JGunlimited6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos!
@joepiscapo93610 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude...you will not be forgotten :o I got 3.57 mhz kind what you had, but 13.57 mgz came out as nice sine wave. on 9volt battery
@sreekumarUSA6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the instructional oscillator video. What was more interesting was your “islands” that’s a clever means of making a circuit board. Special thanks for that. The other item that was interesting was your Soldering iron. I’ll appreciate, if you could let me know the make and model of the same. Cheers.
@w2aew6 жыл бұрын
The soldering iron is a Metcal MX-500 series.
@stoneslice10 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thanks, as always. I would like to see an identical circuit built with various construction methods, then check the output of each for differences. i.e breadboard capacitance effects etc. I would like to do this myself, but my test equipment is not up to yours for spec. Thaks again Stoneslice.
@rogeronslow14988 жыл бұрын
Nowadays I prototype with SMD components. You require a magnifier but with the correct proto board it's really quick and easy.
@timothyfidler20885 жыл бұрын
yes but even with a Protoboard you then need to wire off to something else - lslands or Veroboard in general to pick up leaded components.
@workout7410 жыл бұрын
sorry i mean where do you get that type of bit, and what is it called? wb2ecl
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
See the links in the video description. The island cutter was purchased from QRPme.com
@au7weeng5347 жыл бұрын
I use an island cutter with a center pin I made from a flathead bit (just filed two slots into it and sharpened the edges.) The pin goes into holes I pre-drill. It's self-centering and one doesn't need a drill press
@MrMac515010 жыл бұрын
Man you are fantastic, that is a device you could sell.
@jimviau3272 жыл бұрын
I like the little holesaw trick for creating islands. Nice .
@DoRC7 жыл бұрын
Awesome work. It would be really cool to have an island cutter that also drilled a through hole in the center. That way you could just stick the leads through and solder them up trimming afterward. With a double sided board you could even use a combination of drilled and not drilled to make the back side a power plane..... Maybe
@DoRC7 жыл бұрын
I'm picturing three bits. One that makes just the island, on that makes island with through hole for connecting multiple things together also to power and one that strips the island away with through hole for single power with no other connections. A double Manhattan! (I have no Idea what I'm talking about btw:)
@w2aew7 жыл бұрын
You could probably do this with a traditional brad-point bit. They typically have a pointed lead-in and cut the perimeter shortly after that. Even if the lead-in doesn't go through, you would have a starter hole to run a second small bit through for the lead hole.
@Sixta167 жыл бұрын
why do I think this circuits extremely capacitively overloads the crystal? (the two 470p accross the element)
@DantalionNl9 жыл бұрын
hi ***** great video, I had one quick question, The transistor needs to be fast enough for the crystal right? should I get a specific one to rebuild this or do you think most transistors will do just fine.
@timothyfidler20886 жыл бұрын
The transistors suggested are written on the paperwork near the osc design. In general you will need a transistor with a transition freq, Ft at least twice the desired osc frequency in order to be sure the osc. will start. In fact the true start conditions are a little more complex than that and they are tabulated in old TI semi books for Hartley and Colpitts designs especially. Audio transistors simply will not work in this circuit -they have too much input capacitance and too much capacitance from the base to the emitter lead. One transistor that simply shines for Osc duty is the BSX-20. You may be able to get it from Futurlec.com . In Oztralia , Rockby in Melb used to have stocks. It has a metal case so it keeps cooler when driven hard and the Ft is about three times better than the generic 2N 2222. Datasheet njsemi.com/datasheets/BSX20.pdf. If you have some marginal microprocessor grade xtal and the circuit will not osc with a 2N2222, then putting in a BSX-20 will often make the difference, esp between about 16 Mhz and thirty Mhz.
@ernieschatz37835 жыл бұрын
@@timothyfidler2088 Ft =Tf= fall time, or is that fault tolerance?
@timothyfidler20885 жыл бұрын
@@ernieschatz3783 Ft is the frequency where the transistor''s current gain is equal to zero. Obviously this statement is simplistic as current gain means something only when the topology , eg common emitter , is known . Therefore the Ft for a given part from a given mafr is defined by his measuring circuit topology and this will be detailed on his datasheet, one hopes. There is more detail on this in Wikipedia under gain-bandwidth product en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain%E2%80%93bandwidth_product. This article suffers from some crappy editing - omega C is not defined but it appears to be the - 3dB drop angular frequency for a given op amp (in which case the Gain BW product is defined in terms of voltage gain).
@timothyfidler20885 жыл бұрын
@@ernieschatz3783 you might like to modify this circuit slightly to work with a J310 nFET (which works at VHF). The bottom 10 K bias resistor on the first transistor increases to say 25K ohm. The upper one disappears. You also had in s small signal diode across the new bias resistor to GND to soft clip the RF going to the gate of the FET ; this then fixes the magnitude of the amplification. BTW the 470 p capacitors produce an impedance transformer effect from the 1K emitter resistor of TR1 back to the base circuit of TR1. Such a circuit will be more repeatable. You might find TR2 , the OP transistor has to change to a high gain transistor like an MPSH10, because the FET will need to see a higher input impedance as its load. (might find etc - these things are calculable or can be tested/trimmed up by simulation on LTSpice, which you can download from Linear technology ) There are only a few places to go for RF parts at a reasonable price nowadays but you can try Cecil the Parts place (do a google search on it) - he also sells magnetic components such as toroids and pignose baluns which are useful for RF transformers. There is or used to be a whole PDF of interesting AF and RF experiments by Todd , a Canuk ham. qrp-popcorn.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_9.html then go to the download link, not the NT7S Blog - of course quarantine anything you get and virus check it (I would but there was no virus). It is just one big PDF of all sorts of experiments and theory. Every circuit is illustrated with a point to point wired PCB so you can trust, to an extent, that he built the damn thing. You will find JFET bias, RF power amps .. all covered there one way or t'other.
@alnoorratansi93644 жыл бұрын
can you use this circuit to 32khz crystals? what range of crystals can this circuit be used.
@w2aew4 жыл бұрын
It should, although you may need to increase the 470pF caps to something like 4.7nF.
@cokabs7 жыл бұрын
HI, i have the same frequency counter, LDC-821S. Great Japan tube display instrument! Great channel, cheers from Uruguay.
@vishnudas94766 жыл бұрын
Can this circuit be biult ordinary perfboard ? Any reason for using copper clad instead of perfboard ?
@TheOldcoder10 жыл бұрын
Do I need a frequency counter to test a circuit like this, or would my digital oscilloscope do the job? (it does show frequency in measurement mode as well as pp voltage etc)
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
The scope will be perfectly fine. A counter will give you a more accurate frequency measurement than the scope, but the scope is certainly sufficient. Of course, you can also see the signal quality and amplitude on the scope - these are things that the counter won't do for you of course.
@CantThinkOfAName534 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video or know where I can find info on how engineers know where to place what components when designing? I have formal training in troubleshooting circuits but it’s always baffled me how engineers know where to put everything.
@caraquedesafiouopapaco25114 жыл бұрын
This ocilator can hold a 32khz cristal?
@hunt555fish6 ай бұрын
What frequency range of crystal oscillators will this test?Nice job on the build.I need to find my pad cutter tool I used years ago.Guess If I have to I can cut pads and glue to the copper board.
@w2aew6 ай бұрын
This would be usable up to several MHz. For higher, the capacitor values would need to be dropped.
@Debraj197810 жыл бұрын
If I stick a suitable piece of wire on the "output", will this circuit work as a transmitter?
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
No, not really. To be a transmitter, the output must be filtered to remove the harmonic content.
@yurigagarin49746 жыл бұрын
so yeah but a dirty harmonic one that the fcc love👍😁🇺🇸
@Qqq-s9k9 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, quartz clock at 32Hz does not start, the way it should be? If I understood what pravlno scheme is designed to test the high-frequency quartz?
@w2aew9 жыл бұрын
It is very difficult to make one circuit that will work over a very wide range of frequencies. The values shown seem to work well for crystals in the lower HF frequency range. To operate at higher frequencies, you'll have to lower the two 470pF capacitor values. For much lower frequencies, you may have to increase these capacitor values.
@Qqq-s9k9 жыл бұрын
***** Yes you are right !!!
@kd1s9 жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool! The only thing that terrified me was the possibility of solder overflowing on a pad and creating a short but it worked. Nice!
@electronicayexperimentos5 ай бұрын
Hi. Could you tell me what is the tool that you use to hold the circuit board? I've never have seen something like that. Thanks.
@w2aew5 ай бұрын
Check out products from Panavise.
@electronicayexperimentos5 ай бұрын
@@w2aew Thank you very much. Have a nice day.
@nusyil5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this clear and satisfactory video !
@vladgladkikh5 жыл бұрын
Will it also determine the resonant frequency of a piezoelectric diaphragm (buzzer). I tried, it didn't, even though I put larger capacitors because its resonant frequency must be around 10kHz. Maybe I am doing something wrong with the circuit, or is there a fundamental difference between quartz resonators and piezo buzzers? How to modify this circuit for measuring the resonant frequency of a piezo buzzer?
@dyamiestudio9 жыл бұрын
can you tell me what formula did you use to have the values for the Components like. Resists, capacitors?
@jeffryblackmon48464 жыл бұрын
Nicely presented! It works beautifully. Thank you. (I liked it twice!)
@alidapaunic55873 жыл бұрын
Can you tell if this work for 6 or 10 different christals or we need for each christal another plate what is calculation sheme for ten christal do you know that
@bobkozlarekwa2sqq596 жыл бұрын
Ordered the cutter. Tried three different pcb materials. The cutter removes the entire dot. I’m also seeing that the removed copper remains in the cutter. What’s the trick?
@w2aew6 жыл бұрын
Try using very easy/light pressure with the drill press - just ease into it, don't bear down. Little touch-and-release moves.
@famossfla10 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful how too video. You always amaze me. Thanks again..
@opablo_gm10 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual... Sorry if this is a basic question but... What would be the easy/simple way to "clean-up" that output wave ? I guess it's not about applying a LPF because it should work on any freq... maybe you need to make another nice-sine oscilator and "drive it" with the first dirty oscilator in order to get only the fundamental freq ? (I'm not an EE... just an Amateur trying to take a guess here)
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
A low pass filter or tuned circuit load that only passes the fundamental would clean up the output. Of course, the design of the filter/load will be dependent on the crystal frequency being used.
@rapsod191110 жыл бұрын
Great video. What is going to happen when you put 2 crystals with 2 different freq. in parallel or in serial?
@colt466710 жыл бұрын
This is probably a dumb question but lemme ask anyway: when designing a ccircuit how do you know when to use electrolytic or tantalun or some other kind of capacitor?
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
Not a dumb question... ...the choice of capacitor type is usually dictated by the application and value. If the application required a large capacitance value, then that will usually mean electrolytic or tantalum. If low ESR is needed, then a tantalum would be used. If cost is the driving factor, then an aluminum electrolytic might be chosen. If the value is small, then it could be a multi-layer ceramic cap. If low leakage is important, then it would probably be a film cap. It all depends on the application...
@purza959 жыл бұрын
+w2aew What is "ESR"?
@w2aew9 жыл бұрын
+purza95 ESR = Equivalent Series Resistance
@Qqq-s9k9 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, I tried to run on 72.310MHz quartz, and it's executed at a frequency of 12.5. As known quartz can only operate at odd harmonics. Why could it happen?
@danw.47758 жыл бұрын
Alan,great video as usual. Where can I get the sockets that you use to hold the crystals?
@w2aew8 жыл бұрын
These are available from many places. Here's an example www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Harwin/D01-9972042/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tiOpk5oEEfXAG8aELhnBF1o%3d
@danw.47758 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@435345dfhgjs10 жыл бұрын
You always make awesome vids, i learn a lot with your explanations. You're an excelent teacher.
@PeterWalkerHP16c5 жыл бұрын
When I was young I used to use tag-strips salvaged from old valve televisions. Compared to Brattian & Bardeen's first transistor I reckon my efforts were pretty tidy. :-)
@cthree8710 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. I learned something new. Thanks!
@bblod48966 жыл бұрын
Built the oscillator on a prototype board, did not have the exact NPN transistors and did not have 470pf caps. I used 330pf caps. Tried a 5 MHz crystal and it worked but the sine wave is not pretty. I ordered some 470pf caps And the recommended transistors. I have a 27.185 MHz CB crystal. I want to build a test oscillator to check the receive of CB transceivers. When I used that crystal, the oscillator had issues. Should I assume the 470pf caps help in cleaning up the sine wave?
@OM0ET6 жыл бұрын
Good idea to do circuits with "Islands style" fashion! :-) thank you. 73
@PapasDino10 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial Alan…Happy New Year!
@owenvinall99702 жыл бұрын
Thanks very useful video. Cant wait to try this.
@minazulkhan82874 жыл бұрын
hi..its a nice video ..what is peak to peak voltage of op waveform and what if i use 40mhz crystall..will peak to peak change ?? and also can u suggest method to amplify op
@tinmandylan9 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, Great video! I am trying to create a circuit a nebulizer a scent diffuser but am not having much luck searching around. I'm wondering whether this circuit still works with a piezo plate in the place of where the crystal is? Also it is tough to find much info on piezo plates, is there a certain range of current going through them that they work better? Thanks!
@w2aew9 жыл бұрын
Im not an expert on ultrasonic piezo drivers, but a quick google search reveals lots of good results: www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/ultrasonic-atomizer-circuit.html product.tdk.com/en/techjournal/tfl/sensor_actuator/NB/ www.murata.com/~/media/webrenewal/support/library/catalog/products/sound/p15e.ashx www.senscomp.com/pdfs/using-piezo-sensors.pdf www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/2-ntb/tech-briefs/semiconductors-and-ics/5615
@electrifyingelectron97928 жыл бұрын
Very smart PCB soldering technique .... Can this circuit be used with wide range of crystals?
@w2aew8 жыл бұрын
It works over the middle HF range. Component changes would be needed for higher or lower frequency operation.
@electrifyingelectron97928 жыл бұрын
+w2aew Thanks for the quick reply.
@stevec50004 жыл бұрын
I've got an old Lafayette model HA800 short wave radio that is dual conversion with 455 Kc and 2.608 Mhz IF's that quit working after some parts in it's 2.153 Mhz second osc. drifted off freq. It's a Colpitts osc. like the one you used in the video so I built it up on a bread board to get it working but I found that some of the parts values they originally used wouldn't work so I put some new parts in and mounted it back on the radio's PC board. The problem I'm having now is that since the output is not a sine wave but more like a saw tooth similar to the one you showed, I get tons of harmonics all across the dial! Do you know if there is a way to get a better sine wave out of this circuit? Thanks.
@w2aew4 жыл бұрын
The most popular ways to get lower harmonic distortion with simple oscillators like this are: - Use a low pass filter on the output - Use a tuned-circuit load in the collector - Tweak the gain of the circuit to be just enough to sustain oscillation
@stevec50004 жыл бұрын
@@w2aew Thanks, I'll try that. Oddly the radio did have a tuned circuit across the oscillator but the parts values are way too small and it is resonant at 15 Mhz instead of 2.153 so it needs a larger coil to make it work. The radio seems more like a science fair experiment than a commercial product but I guess that's why they came out with a version A then a B!
@aknewhope9 жыл бұрын
The island method is new to me. Could be very useful. Thank you.
@FrozenHaxor10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I think that 6MHz crystal actually had a punched mark on top of it, weird spot for such package.
@tiffanymiller482010 жыл бұрын
Mincraft
@FrozenHaxor10 жыл бұрын
Tiffany Miller What?
@C32-d5j4 жыл бұрын
yeah maybe they used the same machine that punches the thinner ones
@Mulazim.2 жыл бұрын
You could remove the crystal and replace it with Varactor diode, so you can divide the frequency
@leoj.nesuahecner124210 жыл бұрын
I don't understand...it looks like you are cutting circles in the copper thus isolating it from the larger area which is ground. I get that but it sure looks like the solder is breaking out of the circles or islands and touching the ground plane. How do you avoid that?
@carmelpule69549 жыл бұрын
Due to surface tension of the molten solder, it does not cross over out from the circle. just leave the tip of the soldering iron on the circle and do not let the tip bridge the gap. It is easy with a little bit of practice.
@gokhanpala7 жыл бұрын
Is the capacitor value there 120pF? Would you answer urgently? Thank you.
@w2aew7 жыл бұрын
No. The capacitor values are clearly marked in the schematic. Very readable at the 1:00 point. For frequencies above 10-15MHz, you may want to lower the value of the two 470pF caps to 100 or 150pF each.
@bumohamedubualooy71114 жыл бұрын
what is the use of the upper 10 nf cap below the 100 ohm resistor? decoupling or ac ground to prevent signal loss in vcc? the 100 ohm to make the path more resistive to high frequency? or just for the biasing scheme?
@w2aew4 жыл бұрын
The 100ohm and 10nF cap provide AC isolation from the main power source. It keeps any noise from the power supply from getting into the circuit, and prevents the circuit from injecting too much noise on the power supply.
@bobmiller382 жыл бұрын
How would you calculate the impedance at the output cap?
@N2GJ10 жыл бұрын
Probably a dumb question: What do you mean by an "isolate node?" I don't know how you got 7...I've never been good at reading schematics, but I can stuff the right parts in a PC board pretty well....
@w2aew10 жыл бұрын
"Isolated nodes" are the various junctions between components. Some of the components are connected to ground on one end, and connected to other components at the other end. It's these non-grounded connections that are "isolated" from ground, which is why I referred to them as isolated nodes.
@N2GJ10 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you, Alan! Great video - what a neat setup you have (neat as in very cool rather than tidy!) Very interesting and informative as always. I am in awe that you can just look at a circuit like that and say "Oh, this is going to be 5.4 volts here, and this will be .7 of a volt lower...etc." I have no freaking idea how that calculation is done. I might have known at some point, but, as my friend Gary Wilson K2GW says, "Gerry is a No-Tech Code Extra!" That's what you are when you can copy Morse Code at 25+ wpm but would be hard pressed to do those calculations you do in your head! 73 and God Bless You and Nancy in the New Year! 73/88 DE N2GJ