Waco: American Apocalypse | Official Trailer | Netflix

[@leethompson8451]

Just watched the documentary, what struck me most, the FBI sniper from the HRT team, posing with his rifle, for a trophy photo in front of the still burning building and then saying he was upset at the deaths.

[@purpezful1]

Just watched it and that was my immediate thought as well.

[@blackdog7859]

same here! that guy's cowboy attitude irritated me!

[@foolsgold76]

With a charred corpse right behind him. Cute.

[@Bob-ew5pp]

​@BlackDog you must be a Democrat.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

The thing that struck me was David Koresh putting his filthy hands on little kids, who he later burned to death.

[@13deltafdc]

Every time I see people talk about Waco it makes me think about the move massacre in Philadelphia back in 1985 when the Philadelphia police used a helicopter to drop bombs on a building full of women and children. They killed over a dozen people and the destruction of the bombs left over 250 people homeless. They should make a movie or a TV show about that tragedy.

[@mournblade1066]

Yep, it was an assault on an organization known as MOVE. I remember when that happened.

[@jamalford6995]

They dropped bombs because of a drug crew had that whole block

[@quavehiphop9152]

Omg I was thinking the same thing you are so right I'm from Philly and I swear it is not talked about nearly enough even around hear

[@LLandS18]

Absolutely not this is not the same. Let's not relate civil rights activists fighting for human rights a child predator and pedophile. David koresh got what was coming to him. The parents that allowed this monster near their children knowingly and willingly that he was a pedophile they got what they deserve to. This is not the same. What happened in Philadelphia is a case of government overreach. What happened in Waco Texas is a monster getting what he deserved. The only victims in Waco Texas are those children that's it. In Philadelphia it's all the families that lived on that block they're the victims. And the people in Philadelphia they were innocent. They were using their constitutional rights to own guns and defend their home. They were also using their constitutional right to protest. In Waco Texas this was a child predator defending his access to children and their brainwash parents. Not the same

[@scottcharney1091]

There was a documentary released not long ago. It's very well-regarded.

[@MaxwellGriffin001]

I hope they can answer the question that nobody can seem to answer: The day before the raid, Koresch ran 6 miles, 3 away from the compound and 3 back. He observed the news media tents being put up. There was a police presence...if this was all about arresting Koresch, why didn't they arrest him then? Why didn't they arrest him the day before that when he was in Waco at a supply store? They wanted to make a spectacle of this and it cost people their lives. They killed that woman and her baby in Ruby Ridge and they were trying to save face by getting all the media to ground zero so they could film everything.

[@jeffaxman799]

Absolutely! Nailed it!

[@zx713]

They had to. They wanted to make up for Ruby Ridge with a grand show.

[@stevemurrell6167]

That's right, you keep feeding the 'conspiracy, anti authority' nutters out there. Sure the authorities don't always get things right but do you honestly think nutters like Koresch and Maga types would run things better? Grow a brain.

[@MaxwellGriffin001]

​@@stevemurrell6167 The fact that you associate anything you disagree with as something of "MAGA" shows you have very little comprehension.

[@stevemurrell6167]

@@MaxwellGriffin001 No, I associate conspiracy talk with Maga types....it's all you people have got. You certainly don't deal in facts.

[@ISEEKSPACE]

Hearing that man say the FBI was the hostage when there were children in there is absolutely horrific. Saying that the FBI had to adhere to the demands of David Koresh--no sir, you had multiple opportunities to apprehend him and you didn't. You're the FBI it's your job to be in these situations. The children, on the other hand, are the victims here. The ego on the men who spoke in this documentary are the biggest I've ever witnessed over such a tragedy.

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

Nobody was being held hostage at Waco

[@physicscal2142]

I just want to know, if you guys think of David, was he a bad guy,good guy, or Jesus

[@jackmurphy6946]

Bad​@@physicscal2142

[@JamesSimpsonOnGoogle]

They knew the 'element of surprise' was gone - that should have been the end at that point. Whoever made the call to continue at that point has a lot of culpability.

[@popoffcity1989]

You’re right, David Koresh is in no way shape or form responsible for this.

[@LLandS18]

​​@@popoffcity1989 amount of cognitive dissonance going on in this sainthood of David koresh blows my mind. This is on David koresh. Nobody and I mean nobody with half a brain would say that the government handle this correctly. They were incompetent they were high-handed. But David koresh had many many chances to end the standoff. He chose not to because the government coming after him is a self-fulfilling prophecy that he's been making in his delusional mind since the beginning. The fact that people are defending and making him seem like a martyr when he was nothing but a pedophile it's just is insane to me. And the fact that people are trying to make it seem like the adults there were victims also is insane. Video of David koresh talking to everybody in this documentary all of his followers that it's God's will he gets to sleep with children. Every adult absolutely every adult that was in that compound knew what he was doing with children. Every adult knew he was a pedophile and he was raping children. They can all claim differently but there's video evidence of him telling them. In fact there's a really famous video with the drummer in this documentary standing right next to David God will he says it's the will of God that he reproduces with children. So not only did the adult turned a blind eye and ignore the child abuse and the child molestation going on they actively try to protect it. Everybody needs to understand that this was not about his guns this was not about his religious freedoms. This was about protecting his access to children. Because the child predators and pedophiles that is the most important thing. I don't understand how we Republicans can say we are the party to protect children and sanctify a guy like David koresh and his followers. It makes me ashamed to be a Republican

[@LLandS18]

​@@popoffcity1989 the perversion and Corruption of the word of God so this monster could molest children and you people are standing up for him. I'm sorry he could agree with me politically on almost everything but the second he touches a child that way he's a monster and I hope he rots in hell. And when he died I hope you suffer tremendously. The fact that he agrees with me on some political issues doesn't matter anymore.

[@ChiIIerClan]

@@popoffcity1989 boot lick much ?

[@plizo69]

David was right for his response

[@alexandergriffin1446]

Me being an 80s baby i can say this 90s era was a crazy ass decade

[@BishopWalters12]

Same and I would go back in a heartbeat.

[@neroresurrected]

I agree the 90s were off the wall crazy no doubt unbelievable that’s already been 30 years since this incident at Waco.

[@jdocean1]

The 90’s weren’t shi.

[@lazarusepoo9220]

@@jdocean1 dude, 90s with Pablo around got everyone coked up thinking they’re the son of Jesus and shi... it was pretty fked up. Oklahoma City bombing, Bosnian genocide, Jihadis at the world trade centre, Yugoslav war, Rwandan Genocide, srebrenica genocide, Rodney king beating and the riots, Columbine, Tupac and biggie (had to throw that one in for comic relief), OJ, Gulf war, and the list goes on!

[@coupe50h]

Best decade ever.

[@XXOVXXO__]

I watched almost every true crime documentary on Netflix but this documentary is so insane. Nothing will top this

[@begley09]

Yeah it'd just be better if they actually told the correct story.

[@wasblind4835]

We will see.

[@linksrat]

@@begley09 Meaning what, exactly?

[@phildavis277]

​@@linksratMeaning the AFT, Clinton and Janet Reno screwed up and should have been held accountable. It was their fault this tragedy happened. Yes, Koresh was a bad man but this never should have happened.

[@begley09]

@@linksrat Meaning they included the statements from all witnesses - not just ones that reinforced their side of the story.

[@xoloesquincle]

Finally, this one was a no-brainer for Netflix and I'm surprised it took so long.

[@tr1ck0]

There was a 6 episode mini series in 2018.

[@asomozar]

@@tr1ck0 a good series by the way

[@jimmylehee414]

Bring it back!

[@DirkDiggler1961]

Heres another ignorant fool that will believe the governments side as fact

[@xbabysmasherx]

Be prepared. This one sucks.

[@kholim8528]

The FBI & ATF need to answer and take responsibility for all of the innocent deaths they could have prevented!

[@FredericFreedom]

Yes

[@GatLaFlare]

So do the cops, the pope, the president, your boss, and you. Shut up

[@doridori8]

Prevented how?

[@DirkDiggler1961]

​@@doridori8 do some research buddy before you go to the comment section. You are gonna get schooled.

[@niclna]

Why blame FBI/ATF? Blame that stupid David

[@lord.of_iron]

They gonna include the photos of agents posing over the pile of ashes and bodies with smiles on their faces?

[@Mojo32]

Exactly. 😡

[@sakkel.7357]

who fired the first shots? At the front door it is obvious ATF lied saying Koresh shut the door and bullets ran through the door. The front double doors were hollow core metal and while the door with the bulletholes mystically dissapeared from photo it's easy to see that all bulletholes on the door are shot from OUT in and first were shot when Koresh still had the door open. One can even determine it was agent Ballesteros (or 2 agents approaching the door with him) who shot when the door was still open.

[@mase8189]

And the door mysteriously went missing and was never talked about again.

[@phildavis277]

It was proven the atf shot first. They were never held accountable for their crimes. Reno and whoever called the shots should have been prosecuted. What idiots they were going up a ladder. It was amateur hour.

[@phildavis277]

@quecooo8940 How so? A slap on the wrist? Who was help accountable. Was Reno forced to resign? Did Clinton resign? Did anyone get indicted for dereliction of duty? Answer is NO!

[@LLandS18]

​​@Que Cooo, you know who else wasn't held accountable? All the parents that escaped that didn't protect their children and knowingly gave their children to a child pedophile and child rapist. They didn't get charged either. Look, no one said the government handled this perfectly because they didn't. And yes, they should be held responsible for the mistakes they made. But for you to act like the greatest evil in this situation is the government. I don't even know what to say to that. Personally, I would think the child rapist in the parents who allowed a child rapist near their child knowing who he was and what he was doing I would think they're the true evil. If anything, the federal government is incompetent. David koresh, in his followers, what the word of God so that he could justify him raping children. Edit and many of the children have come out and said all the adults knew what was going on. And they either didn't care or just turned a blind eye and didn't have the courage to do anything about it. So all these people who were adults during this time failed to do anything to protect children from a monster. It's unforgivable they can try and cry victim, but they weren't a victim. Sure, they were brainwashed. They probably they haven't done the work, and that was the therapy to get over it they probably still are, but that excuse only goes so far. I'm going to say that point is long before you allow children to go to a child predator.

[@Mojo32]

​@@phildavis277And they never will be held accountable. The "law enforcement" street thugs regularly do whatever they want, and have the large egos that prove it.

[@samuelcrows]

Waco is the perfect example of Murphy law, everthing that could Go wrong went wrong in the most terrible way that could Go.

[@bakerman10]

Pretty much started when they murdered four federal agents.

[@palmbearoftexas2007]

Waco still is. Hawk’s Chicken went out of business fast-and let’s not even get started on Twin Peaks. 😂

[@paulelroy6650]

thats religion for you.

[@yagsipcc287]

@@paulelroy6650 No thats FEDs for you. They went after them in full force for 20k in taxes FEDs went caused a shootout, got military tanks and other miltary equipment from a near by base and killed over 90 people with more than 70 of them being women and kids all burned to death. FEDs took photos of what they done standing over half burnt kids with smiles on their faces no one was punished and several people are now in high levels of governement. After the fact they tried to say they were doing this and that with no proof of anything. These people wanted to be left alone.

[@JohnDoe-rb4yz]

Mmmm actually not free ppl were targeted and slaughtered!… hoes that Murphy’s Law??

[@MrPaglissi]

I’ve always contended that the shoot out kicked off when the ATF killed the Davidian’s Malimut and her puppies as they made their way to breach. The fact that the front door where everything started “mysteriously disappeared” was incredibly suspicious and did serious damage to the credibility/legitimacy of their entire investigation. That loss of that door and the exculpatory nature of it I’m sure contributed to the Davidian’s ultimate acquittal of murder charges against the ATF agents.

[@sillyrukus]

ATF can rot in hell

[@EyeMixMusic]

What is more likely: that a bunch of crazy cultists with zero military training panicked and let off a couple of rounds when they saw ATF agents in the compound...or that the fire fight started because the ATF agents randomly decided to gun down several harmless dogs?

[@LibertarianGalt]

ATF murdered them after initiating the violence.

[@MrSneaksful]

@@LibertarianGalt they were fanatics believing in a leader who had sex with children. They got what they got.

[@DaddyFatty]

Another odd thing was if the news crew was filming the whole thing why didn't we see a replay of the first shots fired

[@carriew5106]

I was 10 when the siege happened, and in the UK. And yet I knew exactly what this was about as soon as I saw the first image of the compound. That's how much of a big deal this was internationally. Be interesting to see how this is portrayed. So often the coverage attempts to present the authorities in a better light.

[@Reborn8303]

Even though the feds went about it the wrong way . He was Pure evil

[@atomickitties8069]

Watch the mini-series with Michael Shannon. It's excellent. It's taken from a book written by a survivor from the cult, and a book written by the FBI negotiator. So it tells both sides equally well. It also shows how the FBI, in their effort to get it thing wrapped up, lied to the Attorney General Janet Reno and President Clinton and that's why the final attack was actually made.

[@jasony9950]

Don’t believe just one side of every story

[@cosmicmegafauna]

@@Reborn8303 Koresh and his people were the first to fire (with illegally modified weapons) and the feds literally negotiated for an entire MONTH to try and get as many people out as possible before he and his people spread fuel all over the compound. Waco was 100% the result of David Koresh's ego, he had multiple opportunities from start to finish to allow things to end peacefully. He instead chose violence. As far as I'm concerned he killed every single person there.

[@mast3rchief536]

Crazy in the UK so many no about this but barely anyone knows about Heavens Gate and Jonestown. I guess maybe coz this was a live siege but people say Jonestown was like the 9/11 of 1978

[@LastActionHero1986]

I think watching this show really gives me a clear insight into how corrupt the top law enforcement leaders were back then. In all their interviews, they expressed no remorse for the lost of 80 lives. Really disturbing

[@lordnelsonmc.billionberg9166]

Why would it be different today? It's seems that it got even more corrupt tbh.

[@LastActionHero1986]

@lordnelsonmc.billionberg9166 I don't think fbi is bad like they were back then, they were the ones that really turned ruby ridge and waco seiges into bloodsheds. Now days it more bad cops than anything. But it's all the same. Your right about that.

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

@@LastActionHero1986the fbi is as bad as they were back then. Dumb bootlicker

[@billy1673]

“Back then”? They were just honing their craft.

[@turjo97]

I watched Waco series by paramount few years ago.. It was so intense, the actors precisely executed their roles.

[@martyr4806]

Great Series. Makes me reluctant to watch this

[@AdamAgosto]

there's another season of the Waco paramount series coming out too

[@turjo97]

@@AdamAgosto thanks for informing.. I have just read. Good thing is Michael Shannon and some other cast will reprise their role.

[@mqureshi79]

Taylor Kitsch nailed it

[@lback1505]

it really surprised me how amazing it was, especially on the acting side (as you mentioned). Definitely the kind of story more people should know about to escape cult dynamics in the present day (QAnon, Antifa, NFTs)

[@cards0486]

As horrible as it was, and a man that was so deep in his delusions caused people to go to their deaths, there’s one fact that I hope is told. David Koresh went running alone every morning down that road. The FBI, holed up in that house across the street, could have gotten him at any time. But cameras wouldn’t have been there.

[@badkarma11b]

It was the ATF doing the initial surveillance, not the FBI. FBI came in after the ATF bungled the initial raid and pulled back.

[@CommanderLongJohn]

The ATF caused those people to die . .

[@xcen1]

that tells you who the biggest gang is, the government.

[@schoolinJOO]

false 🙄 you’re so lost (by design)

[@porsche928s4]

They had two ATF agents inside the compound and David knew they were undercover

[@shawnjohnson21]

I was 9 and lived on the other side of Waco when this happened. There was a hill off the road that you could see the compound from and it became a rubber necker and weirdo paradise. Of course my dad took me and I met a woman who claimed to be a witch. Crazy times.

[@ifishforfoodnottrophys7483]

Oh wow am watching the movie do u still live there I live in Jerald

[@spenny3891]

Well fkn said mate.

[@tylersamuel5021]

You’re full of shit

[@Charsi_Escobar]

Need more good stories mate

[@automatoncollectives7237]

Graeme Craddock, a devout follower of David Koresh to this day, says he witnessed a member pouring gas inside the compound, just before someone above him yelled “light the fire!”. That’s all I needed to hear.

[@stevenaylor5163]

Nice try, the FBI killed those kids

[@JasonKing8113]

I remember the tv series they did on this and it was great. I expect this to be just as great

[@laneybowdoin]

lol Netflix did not do that FINE series. Parnamount did.

[@povboy009]

@@laneybowdoin i thought it was netflix series. no wonder they removed it

[@alexmeyers2274]

48 hours did

[@MrBuketman]

Paramount has the series. It’s really good. Didn’t seem biased about either side of this wild story.

[@MrRyno722]

Same story, same shut, it didn’t change.

[@daimyo1959]

My dad always talked about this and how the feds could have gotten him at any point because he went to town several times a week but they didnt they instead chose to siege the compound they then chose to burn it down with women and children inside it wasnt about david or anybody else it was about showing everybody else to obey

[@22espec]

The ATF wanted the all group, not just the leader, they made the mistake of not knowing how loyal they were to him.

[@spenny3891]

Well fkn said mate. Ya mates thank you all for thumbs up i proper appreciate that!! The most I’ve got with out Gettin mugged right off.

[@kingjuju79852020]

Is going to happen again , the government is coming to take control of the people this was just a test run.

[@manhalen7046]

No, thats what it was about to YOU and other morons who are convinced the govt and the world is out to get you. It's all about the fact that the world is changing and people like you are going to have a very limited place in it. Simpleton.

[@barrysuss4421]

@@doridori8 the bootlicker over here.

[@_Lux_Ex_Tenebris]

Whoa - at 1:17 that sharpshooter Chris Whitcomb is the same one from the Ruby Ridge Documentary American Standoff (Also on youtube). So he is here in this show in pictures posing over the dead and ruins, and was also at Ruby Ridge complaining that he couldn't take a shot.. With how Ruby Ridge was carried out and turned out, does anyone really believe that whole team didn't just show up to Waco itching to instigate a fight?

[@T3268d]

100 % those were Americans and that scumbag takes pictures standing by skulls at Waco

[@Mojo32]

Oh it's obvious to many of us. That is precisely how they handle things, they want subjects not citizens.

[@goctexas1444]

I bought his book cold zero not knowing who he was and he had zero regrets in it as well

[@Wormyquormy]

My grandfather quit the FBI after seeing how the agency fumbled this case.

[@supreemesupreeme]

good man rare

[@arkhamknight6371]

Sure

[@egordonliddy697]

Blame Clinton

[@erikasmith8894]

@@egordonliddy697 Janet Reno was also at fault.

[@egordonliddy697]

@@erikasmith8894 so was Bill Clinton

[@MsRose00]

No one does a documentary like Netflix! Can’t wait!

[@RASTANAUTDELIC77]

Netflix and HBO are the crème de la crème of the documentary game!

[@tallorderbmx]

"Madman or Messiah" is the best documentary on this event

[@paulobacula8442]

That last bit. "I am the lord." I have never shivered more in my life. Im buckling my seatbelts for this documentary. Edit: tnx 4 the likes

[@miyamuni]

That statement sent chills down my spine. 🥶

[@leahbia82]

Did you watch the series that came out years ago? That was good. There was a documentary that came out at the same time that was good also, but I'd watch the series first if you're not that familiar with it. Will be more interesting.

[@AngelSanchez-rb5wk]

he didnt say that

[@paulobacula8442]

@@AngelSanchez-rb5wk at the end

[@AngelSanchez-rb5wk]

He didnt say that. He was quoting the bible

[@johnfrompeconiccounty4274]

The sniper with the goatee is such an evil jerk. The negotiators are doing everything I can to get the kids out safe, he’s just focused on killing more people. And so proud of it.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

No the paedophile in the building is the evil jerk.

[@pahapyykki]

So exiteted ! the "Night Stalker" was really well done yet creepy, high hopes for this too.

[@angelh6345]

I couldn't make it past ep 1 with might stalker and I watched It in the day

[@tomdanks8714]

You guys gotta do one of these on Ruby Ridge.

[@justinthomas7288]

Yes, we must do the Trinity. Weaver, Koresh, McVeigh. 1, 2, 3. Randy felt the spark. Koresh got burned down. Timothy blew it up.

[@broberts1505]

I bet the documentary leaves out the part where ATF just got savaged on 60 minutes, and was looking for a media win when they stormed the compound.

[@Chatterbox-94]

Phenomenal documentary. I never even knew about the Waco Siege until I saw this documentary. Truly mind blowing that a man who saw himself as the messiah was a total monster.

[@BryanPR1990]

Indeed they can't blame only the government for that mess. It was David's fault too he should've surrendered

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

@@BryanPR1990nah it was completely the atf fault

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

Fed boi propaganda

[@PADARM]

@@tvshowmemes-jt8eb are you defending a ped0?

[@melaniewalsh1467]

​@tvshowmemes-jt8eb did you not hear that woman say that the kids become adults at 12 suits ok for him to be sexual with them are you sick

[@JacobDean88]

What a mess all around. People suffered from every end. The children were victims. The agents who died were just doing what they were told.. And who knows who shot first. I think David was honestly convinced they did not. Maybe he didn't know. But I don't think he said Fire! This was a pretty good series. They say Never Seen Footage and that's definitely for sure. I've watched a lot on Waco and this shows never before seen footage or even information. Well done! Well worth the watch!

[@silviavangimst]

I agree.

[@MrSneaksful]

He knew, he also planned this whole thing, he had the feds feeding out of his hand. Your right about it being a mess all the way around. So sad for so many to be brainwashed by a pedo criminal and throw their lives and their childrens lives away for him......

[@maruzencentral]

Hopefully it lacks no criticism of the ATF. They murdered those poor children. And the sniper who killed someone also killed people at Ruby ridge. Never forget

[@Ra4758]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@maruzencentral]

@@Ra4758 we get it, you like to see children gassed

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

@@Ra4758 you’re the clown bootlicker

[@chanoleyva8584]

It's a pro fed documentary typical liberal bs

[@chanoleyva8584]

​@@Ra4758who's the real clown boot licker

[@kylecrook2986]

Am I the only one who thinks the Netflix docs are better then the Netflix movies

[@palmbearoftexas2007]

Extraction was pretty darn good though.

[@codycorey2593]

Netflix documentaries are so good! Why cant their original movies and tv shows be the same!

[@rhettpeter83]

Their documentaries are a bit formulaic though

[@kguerr197]

Because movies and TV dramas are not documentaries. They tell a story based on true events. You don't get every fact there is if it doesn't tell the story you want to make. Know the difference.

[@codycorey2593]

@@kguerr197 I know the difference you ignorant fool, I just don’t know why the quality can’t be similar.

[@jeremiahc620]

This was one of the most disgusting things I have ever heard of & once again the government covered up their handy work smh.

[@fultonjohnsonaton5096]

You're a jackass .

[@Ra4758]

Wow you're a proud child rapist. You sick evil pos

[@LLandS18]

No one's saying the government handled this perfectly. They need to be held accountable for their incompetence and mistakes. But let's not forget David koresh was a child pedophile. Children as young as 10 years old or showing up pregnant with his children. There is video evidence and recordings of him saying to all the adults on the compound that God's will for him to sleep with children. All the adults on the compound are culpable in this. Parents of these children knowingly and willingly sent their child to spend the night with a child predator. This is not about his right to own guns. This is about those children. The only victims of the situation are those poor children. Not the adults. They're all culpable and knowing in the crimes against children. The fact that none of them have held accountable in a court of law is what should really disturb you. The fact that they cried victim is what really should be upsetting to you. Not the fact that a pedophile and his enablers died but the fact that they aren't being held accountable to this day. What should enrage you are those poor children being hurt that way and being sacrificed to this man and his perversion of the word of God. But sure, the federal government.🙄

[@MrSneaksful]

more discusting than having sex with children? 10 year olds?

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

So are we gonna learn what happened to the compound door that went mysteriously missing after the raid?

[@1marcelo]

Yes, it burned, dude

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

@@1marcelo Only one of the two doors at the front of the compound was burned down in the fire, that being the left-hand door. The right-hand door meanwhile was a part of the initial investigation into what happened at the Waco siege and then went "missing", conveniently after one of the investigators noticed that the bullet holes in it indicated the first shots of the siege were fired by the FBI.

[@1marcelo]

@@TemperusMaximusM41 Ah, so the bullet holes were numbered in order of firing? The first shot fired was bullet hole number 1?

[@gonzo2495]

aaaah the new wtc 7 for you bored cinspiracy bros. a door in waco.

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

@@1marcelo That's a cute attempt to obfuscate, but you know that isn't what I meant. The door had bullet holes in it that all came from the outside, and that lines up with the testimonials of surviving Davidians that the FBI initiated aggression by firing on David Koresh and they then retaliated from the windows. Another account which lends into the accusation of the FBI tampering with the scene comes from a trooper with the Department of Public Safety, who stated in his deposition that he witnessed U-Haul trailers pulling up towards the end of the siege into which objects from the remains of the compound were loaded and then driven away, in the opposite direction of the media-laden checkpoint the truck had intially entered from.

[@yagsipcc287]

Is this going to be one of those docs that covers for the FEDs

[@mournblade1066]

Actually, surprisingly it doesn't at all. It is VERY neutral, and provides equal coverage from all perspectives. In fact, it's made QUITE clear that certain departments within the participating agencies were downright reckless in their approach to things.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Maybe try watching it and finding out

[@eliemalak5108]

I'm playing farcry 5 now and the resemblance between the stories is remarkable.

[@MCMNasty2]

Not in Waco! It was outside of that town. I grew up there and it drives me nuts that people get that wrong.

[@iromero-ki8gt]

"Waco rules of engagement" if you haven't watched I recommend it 👍

[@jakob187]

Having done a LOT of research on this, there are already false statements in this trailer alone. I'll be interested to see how this is editorialized. This is a complex story to tell across many nations, and this looks to do exactly what was done by the media in 1993: sensationalize something that has a lot more complexity to it.

[@Darwinek]

It wouldn't be Netflix if they wouldn't sensationalize everything.

[@projectstoicism]

you have some podcasts or somethig to check out to get the info on it? I don't know a lot about the real situation. Same with Ruby Ridge, I heard something about the guy maybe doing something the gov didn't like and they went to take him out and bungled it, but don't know about it, nor where to get the "conspiracy" (true) info

[@waltersobchak6]

Gonna assume they don’t tell the truth. That the ATF and FBI murdered those women and children.

[@kibunjojo4499]

same questions, what are the false statements would you kindly point out before I sub to Netflix?

[@njserpas]

@@kibunjojo4499 they always talk about them having a giant arsenal of guns, they never talk about how this group was legal registered gun dealers. They made their entire lively hood from buying and selling guns at gun shows and through direct order. Of course they had a giant collection of guns, they were a legal gun shop. The ATF was interested in if he was changing legal semi auto guns into illegal full auto guns without getting the $200 stamp required to do it at the time of the raid. There was also some fake intelligence about illegal grenades, they had legal inactive grenade parts to sell, it's all very messy with the dumb laws we have in this country. They also always always bring up about him messing with children, but it had nothing to do with why they were after him. ATF doesn't investigate or prosecute for that issue. Look into the ATF's warrant to, they lied about a drug operation that they knew was no longer in operation because David Koresh worked with local cops to get rid of it and the prior leader of the group. The ATF used that previous drug history to get helicopters for the raid and lied to the governor of Texas to get them saying it was still in operation. There is a lot more lying from the government in this case. To get your feet wet, I recommend reading Gary Nosener's book for the FBI negotiator's perspective on how badly the FBI did the seige. David Thibodeau has a really good book as a survivor of the raid, he escaped the building as it was burning. He was an outsider that got sucked into the group not too long before the raid and tells the whole story from his PoV. It's very interesting. You can get lost in a lot more info from there.

[@modtheman4909]

After trying to watch the first episode it quickly became apparent this documentary was not a good one and did not intent to actually tell the full story. Literally within the first ten seconds of the first you are leaving out extremely important context that the guns the Davidians had were fully legal and licensed firearms which were all registered. Then the ATF agents were mostly just stroking their own egos and also lying by omission. They claimed there were in an "undercover house" nearby the compound but within the first few days of them being there the Davidians figured out they were feds and confronted them but the agents stuck to their cover of "we are all collage students in our 30s and 40s". When the ATF agents mention their "man on the inside" they also fail to mention he was invited there by the Davidians because they knew he was a fed. Never once is it even mentioned the Davidians not only knew the ATF was watching them but had offered them several times to have a look around the entire compound to see nothing illegal was happening. The reporter in the first episode is also one of the most unprofessional individuals on the show as she is just openly lying about important details (or is just terrible at her job and is misinformed). The documentary also depicts the Dividians as some isolated doomsday cult. They were for sure a cult (all religions are cults after all) but they had a very loose open door policy and allowed anyone and everyone to come and go as they pleased, including the "undercover" fed. This documentary is a joke and was likely a paid PR stunt by the ATF in an attempt to rewrite history. This is only SOME of what you got wrong or left out. If you want an actual retelling of Waco then look up Wendigoon on YT. He has an excellent video which gives more information in less time than this joke of a documentary

[@MsJoesmith95]

Funny Fact..... David Koresh was in town a few days before getting supplies and the ATF could have arrested him then and avoided all of this.

[@dbergerac9632]

The ATF wanted a media event. They got one; it just cost a lot of lives.

[@jjrod2988]

Absolutely not. That's like thinking al Qaeda was going to cease operating because they killed Bin Laden. He created a cult with very loyal followers. I guarantee he had a plan in place that would be followed out if he were ever arrested.

[@phildavis277]

​@@lisastalnaker7953This was Reno and the ATFs fault

[@LLandS18]

​​@@phildavis277 no one's saying the government handle this perfectly but it's 100% David koresh's fault. Put this chain of events into motion not the government. He stockpiled weapons he raped children. Let's not forget that. Let's not hold this monster up as some type of martyrdom for government overreach an anti-gun control legislation. Let's always remember no matter how much we agree with somebody on politically socially economically is there a child pedophile they deserve to burn in hell. The fact that there was video evidence of David koresh telling his followers that is his god-given right in the will of God to sleep with children and none of them stopped at that means they're all culpable and guilty not protecting the children. Parents knowingly willingly and encourage their children to spend the night with a child predator. Anybody who doesn't protect a child from that type of damage that type of abuse deserves nothing but terrible things to happen to them. Should be upsetting is the fact that every adult in the compound knew what was going on with children and none of them have been held accountable in a court of law. There's video evidence of David koresh saying at everybody in the compound many times. Children have come out and said their parents knew and did nothing to stop it.

[@MrSneaksful]

@@InsideandOut7799 Exactly. 100%agree. They got exactly what they wanted. Remember boys and girls, belief is a powerful thing, David knew it, dont forget or this will happen again.

[@DrowningPonyo]

The show was honestly pretty well done. Def will he watching this doc.

[@magicchirp1714]

Why is no one talking about that man sleeping with kids and other women and the crazy delusional women defending him ?

[@kawibomber6098]

Because people have their own thought on the fbi and atf killing those people, instead of realizing that this guy murdered these people so he wouldn’t have to answer for his child rape crimes…..

[@physicscal2142]

People got their hero. he looks smart, charismatic ,speaks like Jesus, so best to act like they never evern heard it.

[@yourcommentmakesmecomment.3423]

That 'mother' makes me so angry!! I couldn't believe my ears! Calling 12 year olds adults and letting that ped0 rape them is so sick!!!!

[@gandalf8454]

Cause we all see them as crazy and its a given. Why all the comments talking about the FBI and the ATF is to show how corrupt the us law enforcement is

[@Mick-h7i]

That’s exactly what I thought, what a disgusting psychopath she is..She should still be in jail now..Pure evil that woman

[@aliengranpa]

I remember this happening in real time, and I have a pretty good memory of everything that happened. It should be interesting to see how much they get right

[@tommantek3632]

Probably all of it? Considering this is taking footage from all sides here. Doesn't look like there'll be much dramatization either, which would make this quite realistic.

[@ericleiser33]

Do you mean how much lines up with your personal interpretation of who David Koresh was, what his followers believed and how he was perceived by the federal government?

[@aliengranpa]

@@ericleiser33 more like how much of the narrative will they change now that they have the gift of hindsight

[@MaxwellGriffin001]

@@aliengranpa Yup.

[@jasony9950]

@@tommantek3632 don’t both sides of lawyers take from the same pot, but get different stories?

[@agstros]

Am I the only one here who thinks Michael Cera could play David Koresh in a movie about this?

[@thegamejunky7223]

They could’ve got him alone, peacefully arrested him… but no. They decided to allow mass death.

[@savagescottlee5129]

What proof do you have that they actually ran every morning... And even if he did? What proof do you have that the police saw him, recognized him and decided to ignore him? Do you honestly think that if he was arrested al the illegal guns in the building would just be surrendered to law enforcement?

[@DirkDiggler1961]

@@savagescottlee5129 Their guns were not illegal and there were undercover ATF agents right across the road prior to the waco event. as witnessed by surviving members of the commune and the sheriff. Police had nothing to do the waco event. You have a lot to learn.

[@patrickedwards7107]

They know what they did nobody is arguing that koresh wasn't on some level unstable but we are not buying into the personal mythology of the feds they are not heroes and this didn't have to unfold this way they escalated it to the very end because all they care about Is dominance, applied force, and their own incurred losses without empathy for the neck they have a boot on. They had many opportunities that didn't involve raid tactics they could have taken koresh alone or with minimal blowback and collateral. Nobody across the political spectrum feels sad for these agents nobody cries for them they should have recalled the oath to the constitution if that matters and not been there their tactical blunder and willfull compliance with it killed those four men they lost just as surely as a bullet. It shouldn't be remembered as a success but a stain on the legacy of law enforcement it should be discussed in the same way the officer response at Uvalde will be among the people a textbook and abject failure to the preservation of life, justice, and constitutional integrity. Can we finally get an answer from the so called sharpshooter as to why randy weavers wife had to die why did the trained marksman misidentify a target well within 400yds which is the operational range of an average rifleman and doable by most civilian hunters with a 3-9 or fixed 10 power optic with nominal conditions why was that killer not brought up on charges why does he enjoy qualified immunity for murder?

[@jikaarthou]

David went to town all the time. They could have arest him so many times. Yeah, they wanted this big show. Assholes

[@Mclovin96X]

they had weapons . we dont negotiate with terrorists

[@COO415]

"I'm the Lord". Chilling, just chilling.

[@horsecockphepner]

pretty bad ass tbh

[@COO415]

@@horsecockphepner I would've agreed with ya if it's a movie line but that was real life. About 80 people perished. As a student of history, that event brought to mind 909 people who died at the hand of a cult leader, Jim Jones in Guyana. Nothing bass ass about that too.

[@MCGRATHBM1952]

wow

[@fredvasquez4201]

idiotic more like

[@187mrsmith]

We more censored & restricted now than ever they've got us all distracted with social media hey pay attention over here while we take this away over there

[@ChrisPark]

I never knew when someone would do a doc on this subject, it's taken decades! ............. (do we REALLY need another one of these?)

[@BishopWalters12]

Yes

[@LittleYoki]

Single piano key, drone shot, BASS BASS BASS, lsd graphics, clocks ticking, yelling, screaming, “get out!”, calm guy deep voice, photos of bad man, drone shots!!!!, witnesses saying things they witnessed, bad man scary quote. Ok Netflix hire me. This is where I apply right

[@justinthomas7288]

This comment was priceless. Thank you.

[@nikareims85]

I remember being young and seeing the home up in flames on tv. Still burned in my mind.

[@okolepuka808]

Wow, FINALLY a documentary about the Waco raid. Someone should do one on WW2 also.

[@renoops1120]

😂😂😂

[@spenny3891]

Well fkn said mate.

[@Darwinek]

LOL, there are millions of WWII documentaries, and yes, there are even Waco raid documentaries out there.

[@jdocean1]

Hahaha

[@user-ik4br3nk2w]

as a millennial, WTF is WW2?

[@Joshonthenet]

How many documentaries do we need about this event?

[@InsertName159]

Have no idea, I guess until someone unbiased enough to know the answers to everyone's questions about waco without twisting the truth or lying

[@ericn1450]

This one was pretty good because the FBI infighting had not been covered well in previous docs that I had seen. The fact that the negotiations were working but going too slow for the people in charge is something I had not seen covered so clearly. Arresting that mom immediately after leaving was incredibly dumb.

[@arthurcurry2003]

It's gonna be hard to outdo the Paramount miniseries. It was done so well.

[@kristianquinones7488]

That was a bioseries. This is a documentary.

[@AndrewBrowner]

Netflix missed the mark by a mile, Paramount nailed it

[@arthurcurry2003]

@@kristianquinones7488 I know. I understand the difference. They both have the same subject matter though and CAN be compared.

[@LLandS18]

​@@AndrewBrowner Paramount was a fictional retelling it took a lot of Embellishments. In fact people who were actually they're not just the government children who were victims of this cult has stated that many times. Stop confusing a dramatization retelling of factual events is reality. I'm hoping you don't watch the crown and think that's like a video camera in their rooms we're watching? It's a dramatization retelling.

[@TJJarvis-nv4vc]

I dunno, I was hoping for louder, more dramatic music to convince me this is exciting.

[@vira8880]

What a great documentary, it's clear having the FBI negotiationing team sidelined was the biggest mistake. 82 people died and 28 kids sad

[@buckeyejen1076]

The biggest mistake was Koresh raping little girls. He was a sick monster.

[@scottmcleish9896]

Feds: Now watch what we are going to do. Timothy McVeigh: Sheeeeit! Hold my beer.

[@justinthomas7288]

Weaver, Koresh, McVeigh. 1, 2, 3. Randy felt the spark. David got burned down. Timothy blew it up. Cause and effect. Hold my beer, indeed.

[@royson58]

A tremendous documentary. I was talking about this with a smart, educated 24 yo woman at work who was totally unfamiliar with the story, and wonder how many other young people do not know the history (and in her case, also did not know about the Oklahoma City bombing).

[@user-ik4br3nk2w]

as a smart, educated 24 yo woman, where is Oklahoma?

[@donny7574]

I've watched a few documentaries on waco all it tells me is Americans are brainwashed religious divs

[@tvshowmemes-jt8eb]

Dumb ass atf bootlicker

[@xavex8099]

I heard about this in school from a teacher of mine. I definitely thought way more people knew. I guess people around my age at least, I’m 20.

[@xavex8099]

@@user-ik4br3nk2wdumb assss reply

[@hagabear]

I reallly hope the documentary does something about the post standoff. The land has to lay fallow because there was so much ammunition, metal, etc from firearms.

[@thewkovacs316]

they had a lot more than just a bunch of illegal firearms

[@Charsi_Escobar]

@@thewkovacs316 expand please, I can’t find anything conclusive online

[@DirkDiggler1961]

@@thewkovacs316 never had any illegal firearms to begin with

[@onyxphantom6762]

@@Charsi_Escobar Because they DID have alot of firearms BUT what the boot lickers like to leave out is they were legal, they frequented gun shows shows it was a main source of income to build rifles etc. And sell them at gun shows and everything required to do so they had. The issue people have is the FACT that they were in every way known to build and sell guns and considered to be very kind and friendly people, and Yet the ATF needed to raid them for illegal guns. Why didn't they arrest David when they saw him out? He knew they were watching him and knew the person they sent in in deep cover was fake and even told him to his face. Where are the doors that are crucial evidence for the government? Gone 🤷‍♂️... the metal doors didn't survive the fire apparently. The accusations they used to demonize him were the child abuse, but that was only brought up later... the beginning was all about the guns and thata all... until they realized they needed an escape clause, then all of a sudden he abuses children which was never substantiated... Irrefutable facts to take away from Waco are government overreach leading to the brutal murder of women and children... and in the end it cost us another 168 lives because of the Oklahoma City Bomber... and thats all on the government

[@crazyralph6386]

@@onyxphantom6762 Much like Ruby Ridge, it’s pointless trying to get through to these govt bootlickers.

[@Scopper81]

Are there Ruby Ridge and OKC companion pieces? If so, I'll sign up to Netflix again.

[@MrFat.]

WACO = We Ain't Coming Out! 🔥🔥🔥

[@anthonycampos8057]

Let me tell you something, when that compound went up in flames, a total of nine people came out and not one of those nine people brought out a child. I have ZERO sympathy for them.

[@antics5354]

Sure, if you conveniently make it sound like it magically went up in flames, and not the government tanks with flamethrowers lighting it up.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@antics5354 no. The branch davidians set the fire. One of the people who made it out of the compound said that they set the fire.

[@j.d8219]

Wait I thought some children did survive?

[@anthonycampos8057]

@J.D yeah. They were brought out during the standoff, before the fire.

[@wasblind4835]

They couldn’t get to them. The tanks knocked the walls down. Learn what your talking about!

[@jeshass7431]

Definitely gonna watch this!

[@txsoutherngoth]

my old criminology professor was involved in this. he was one of the snipers. he struggled to talk about it with us- you could always see his body go stiff and his mind go elsewhere. it’s very apparent this stuff still weighs heavy on him. SHOUTOUT TO PROFESSOR STAN AND THE OTHER PERSONNEL INVOLVED🙏🏼🖤

[@kenobi-hi7qz]

Cap

[@Danjan1208]

Your professor is a domestic terrorist and should be a in jail with all the other feds who murder those innocent people

[@insanehippiehippieinsane3828]

They deserve all the guilt they carry. Waco happened because the ATF and FBI wanted a good PR moment after Ruby Ridge. They destroyed and coviently lost evidence to cover their crimes.

[@clevenasty9433]

Cap

[@FizzyP]

They deliberately burned a house full of women and children. Seems like something that ought to weigh on him. They can "lose" all the front doors they want. He was there. He knows what he participated in.

[@eirianrobotto]

Cult leaders are zero. Truly.

[@cobrakarate]

I work with Rachel Howell at HEB and Waco Texas when I was in my early 20s. Long blonde hair always smiling super nice girl. I met Vernon Howell three times at HEB when he was coming to pick her up after work. me and Rachel talked many times about me doing music with him. But things kept coming up and we never did a session. Thank God. I never would have known at that time that he would become David Koresh and all this stuff would happen.

[@worldtraveler134]

Watching and just let me say I remember when this happened and secondly o don't believe anything the ATF officials has to say about how it all began!

[@lizd.8655]

I was in middle school in Dallas when this was going on. How did this turn from a case of child abuse (the man kept underage brides) to an attack on the 2nd amendment?

[@thewkovacs316]

right wing spin

[@JohnTaylor-fh4et]

Turn every crisis into an Ad for gun sales.

[@jasony9950]

@@thewkovacs316 I think you misread the statement… the left side is the one who makes everything to be about how bad 2nd amendment is.

[@Baccanaso]

​@@thewkovacs316go enough to the left and you get guns too So your comment is pretty dumb

[@FizzyP]

"Won't someone think of the children" and claims of sex crimes are trotted out to smear political enemies, justify raids, etc. all the time and everyone knows it's BS. I'm not saying that there weren't sex crimes here, but people are desensitized to claims of this flavor and don't believe them anymore. At the same time, my understanding is that the primary reason the feds were so interested is because the Branch Davidians were trading (illegally?) LOTS of guns. So, I'm not sure about making this a "2nd amendment" issue, exactly. But it certainly seems to be more about guns than children.

[@aliruiz6457]

wait, this isn't about the Animaniacs, i've been bamboozled!

[@clayisland]

Waco The Rules of Engagement. I remember seeing Sunny Bono in tears hearing testimony from a Branch Davidian survivor and thinking wow somebody in congress actually cares. Then seeing Chuck Schumer being cold and callous and thinking wow the government doesn't care about regular people. 😢

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Yes I always get my moral guidance from Sonny Bono.

[@theflyingluxman5653]

28 children murdered by Korech. Survivors saved themselves instead of children. A survivor saying their deaths were acceptable because they were martyrs. David Korech was a hostage taker who murdered his prisoners by burning them to death. This was not religion. This was not mass suicide, this was murder. Children don't commit suicide.

[@fillythesurvivor873]

I watched wendigoons video and the police were in the wrong they endangered the children by setting the place on fire

[@victoriaharris8543]

Truth

[@ZeppelinNL]

Surely the religious fanatics had no part in the endangerment

[@antics5354]

@@ZeppelinNL In terms of ranking who was putting them in danger, I'd put them slightly under the tanks with flamethrowers lighting the compound on fire.

[@lukesmith3618]

@@ZeppelinNL Sure the Religious nuts are crazy. We expect law enforcement to hold themselves to an extremely high level of standards because they have a very high amount of power. They are allowed to use lethal force. They used it recklessly that day and should be in prison.

[@bertcompton]

@@ZeppelinNLwe aren’t defending the cult, but the illegal firearms charges were definitely false and the government had no reason to do what they did. The torture they put those children and families through is an embarrassing stain on our nation

[@racer14glr91]

Waco and Ruby Ridge are all you need to know about the ATF and FBI

[@coltwest6858]

I lived half a mile from the compound. We had to keep our lights off and sadly I knew a few of the kids that didn't make it out. Prior to that year they went to our school.

[@theopinionisthighqualityopinio]

What were the names of the "kids who didn't make it out"?

[@corgising5606]

What did the locals think of this cult?

[@quavehiphop9152]

Netflix needs to do a documentary on the Move Bombing that happened in Philadelphia back in 1985... It's not talked about nearly enough.

[@chrisrobinson9329]

Really is a must watch about Waco.

[@Blue-nm9qp]

We all know the government fired 1st. The real question is if Koresh abuse anyone. He was off when it came to religious matters but did he break the rules

[@MrSneaksful]

Well, it all started when he was 19 and he knocked up a 15 year old. Then became born again to get excused for being a pedo. Then told his Pastor that god told him to marry his 12 year old daughter, pastor kicked him out. On and on, his whole story in religion mixed with sex, just like almost every other cult "leader". its the same M.O.. He not only had a life long history of being a sick pedo but its a known fact that he continued that lifestyle while in waco. its not something you just turn off.

[@WontSeeReplies]

Only 10 minutes into this “Netflix” version. So far it sums up the fact, “history is written by the winners.”

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Well perhaps if you bother to look at the entire documentary you'll realise that nobody comes out looking good in the whole fiasco.

[@mindyalderman8865]

I could not understand why the FBI escalated this whole situation.

[@22espec]

They were against a crazy doomsday cult , it was going to escalate no matter what

[@FVBmovies]

@@22espec Yes, but also ATF screwed up beforehand and was gunning for much needed publicity, which backfired tremendously (puns intended).

[@BishopWalters12]

@@22espec It was still government overreach and many of them felt embarrassed which is why they murdered those people.

[@MrSneaksful]

Well, Koresh was raping children, or having sex with them, also, he had a massive stockpile of weapons and ammo, not all legal, say hand grenades and armor piercing ammo, M2, also manufacturing and tampering with those weapons and ammo. Now mix that all up into a brainwashed group of people that will and did die for their "god" and you dont know what their gonna do. So.....the dividians already killed 4 Federal agents. Cant just let it go.... They really shouldve never waited so long but they gave the benefit of the doubt to them and hoped they could save some innocent children. So they tried for a long time, 51 days of patience, well, maybe not that long. Either way, they shouldve raided that shit on day 1.

[@i.d.6492]

Netflix with another banger 👍

[@jeffaxman799]

The tear gas started the fire.

[@187mrsmith]

Netflix needs to do a documentary Next on the infamous Hollywood robbery with the bulletproof men who I think shot 8 cops and believe it or not the only people that died were the two gunmen

[@KyleCowden]

Had a friend from church (videoed our wedding) that left Carrollton PD for the ATF. He was in the initial breach attempt and shot through the foot on the roof. Afterward, after this horrifying overreach by the US DOJ, we asked him what he thought of the ATF now. He wouldn't answer nor meet our eyes and left shortly after.

[@dmbgator86]

How times are they going to go over this? This is like the 20th documentary on Waco.

[@voiceofreason1208]

Well, depending on how it's skewed, it likely is yet another propaganda piece on how people who live different lives, mind their own business but have guns that the statist government fears are the most evil people on earth and must be eliminated. 🤦🤦

[@dmbgator86]

@@voiceofreason1208 good point!

[@LorenCognita]

It’s probably for us younger people, I’ve heard of Waco, but never saw a documentary. This one was really good 🙂

[@wmetz1869]

Well, there isnt a second "Waco" case.

[@Alexander81225]

They should do one on ruby ridge

[@dwalto1977]

Spoiler alert...none of the weapons were illegal.

[@AbhinavPt]

So when is the next season of mindhunter coming again?

[@anthonycampos8057]

It got cancelled

[@RaoulDuke32]

Patiently waiting for it. It did not get cancelled, Fincher apparently said the show takes time and didn’t want to hold the cast from pursuing other projects while, he himself was working on other stuff. I guess it’s on a hiatus until he chooses to go back.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@RaoulDuke32 no it got canceled

[@tr1ck0]

Didn’t they just make a Waco series not long ago?

[@brianwilliams6167]

Waco 2018 mini series was great

[@azzante34]

Waco and Ruby Ridge were practice...

[@mpho87]

Can't wait to watch this.

[@pshangkuan1]

Once again. I hope they show SA Horiuchi taking sniper shots with his Remington 700x

[@jenniferrosson4753]

That the ATF didn't know about the group's beliefs is utter BS. I was in contact with multiple people from the Cult Awareness Council in Dallas the whole time. They called everyone they could from the local PD, the FBI, & the ATF. They begged them to let them assist in any way, even just to give some advice, in talking to David Koresh, & were told to butt out. No one was interested in a peaceful resolution. All the ATF wanted was to torture and harass the members until they gave up, even knowing there were innocent children inside. It makes me angry to this day. The CAC could have given them tips on how to approach someone fanatical like Koresh, but no one wanted to listen.

[@christopher2215]

The AFT and FBI killed those women and children, and none of them were punished. Disgusting.

[@manuelvpr]

I remember this, the siege took days, several days. The ATF failed miserably, so many mistakes, so many dumb tactics. I remember they played rock music loudly 24/7. The final cherry on the pie was the final day, they stormed in only for the compound to be turned into a huge inferno, burned entirely. This is really sad, madness from one side, stupidity on the other. Egos prevailed. A delisional David Koresh believing he was the son of God, and the government agents believing they had all the answers and knew it all. So many lives were lost, so much time and suffering. Such tragedy. To make things worse, a few years later, Timothy McVeigh, in retaliation, blew up the ATF agency at Oklahoma City, at the Murrah building, hundreds died, children at a day care center. It was awful, another bloodshed, an internal act of terrorism, by an american soldier against its own. Can we believe that? So, many years later, we are still killing each other in one way or another. Is this worth remembering? I do not know, but it has been so long, some people just do not know what happened and/or why. To me, the worst, is that we have not learned from it.

[@theivory1]

The ATF, yes. At the orders of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@MrSneaksful]

It was all by design, Koresh wanted this, it was what he preached the whole time, what all the weapons and ammo storage was for, the great end with a comfrontation with the government. He had him or his people start those fires which started at the same time at all 4 corners of the compound, areas that werent touched by the feds. He had always told them to die for their god, (him) and this was what it all came down to. Koresh eventually controlled the whole thing, even how hes perceived by others outside the compound. He was a strong manipulator and pedo and obvious naccicist.

[@Andy-dc7hr]

Netflix is becoming the master of recycling old series

[@zx713]

This is not a series.

[@spenny3891]

Well fkn said mate just well fkn said good on ya lad.

[@spenny3891]

Well fkn said mate just well fkn said good on ya lad.

[@cole129]

Hope it doesn’t paint the picture that cops are the good guys and that they did absolutely nothing wrong.