gear jamming in the 4230

gotta send this video out to NotherBlackMotoguy and Rabbitman1000 just firing up the 4230 and shifting some gears on the way down to load up hay

[@nicholasrauliuk367]

I would never treat my tractor like you do

[@countryboy5676]

When I was listening to this 4230 start it brought back so many memories of my dads 4230 trying to start in the winter

[@junior-xi8ys]

i feel sorry for that tractor

[@jdfarmspulling398]

junior 7777 me to!

[@williamelliott434]

My John Deere 4230 did the same thing i had to get the motor rebuilt in it and I had to get the back hydraulics rebuilt

[@gasmonkey9600]

Need to restore that tractor

[@CrazyCanuck91]

ahah i like the tractors with the foot peddle...you can drive em like a standard car...i drive my neighbors like one...its kidna fun:) especially since u get a big cloud of smoke at every shift

[@wagner59270]

yes I think I mentioned that in the video along with the fact that since there is 4 ranges and 4 gears you have 16 different ranges speeds gears positions possibilities ect ect...

[@lobsterbox20]

all older tractors have character. My Grandpa has an old massey 44 and it has some bad leaks around the seals. I asked him what he does about it and he says "I just put straight 50 oil in it and don't start it in the winter!" Our neighbor has an old mccormick WD series that practically runs on ether and the hydraulics have a mind of their own.

[@wagner59270]

yup I put in an alpine tape deck after the am radio went up in smoke... it does have heat but the a/c has never worked as long as weve owned it... gets pretty hot in there during haying season

[@andymotl]

Injectors are probably dirty/shot. Good way to blow a head gasket shooting ether before the engine is cranking.

[@generationll]

There is a 4430 that is shown here starting up in the cold to.That Quad Range was was introduced as part of the these 4 tractors in 1972.NOT 16 different ranges but 16 different speeds

[@farmernils]

Nice video! Good explanation of the gear box.

[@wagner59270]

@HCC886 yeah to be honest i wasnt too keen on making this video cause i knew I would grind the gears, but since I was asked for it i figured Id try it, to be honest i cant remember ever having a red tractor on the ranch, although we do have an allis chalmers

[@wagner59270]

yeah it is... gotta love the diesels...very simple just pull the number range stick all the way back in any letter range but D slap left for R2 right for R1 kinda fun... gives you 6 reverse ranges

[@wagner59270]

usually with the quad range Ill set it in one of the letter ranges: A B C or D and just use the number ranges to get up to speed... depends on the load your hauling

[@farmalldeereman]

If you read the operators manual it will tell you that the right hand shift lever is not to be shifted on the fly. The gears are not synchronized. It will cause damage eventually. Choose your range then shift the LH lever. If you need another speed then stop and shift the RH lever.

[@johnchiles9437]

Dude your supposed to stop when you shift ranges!

[@gasmonkey9600]

It don't matter cuz it's got a hand throttle it don't matter if you let off the gas or not when you're shifting gears it's got to hand throttle

[@toverublacksmithing9196]

I full heartedly believe that you do have to stop to change ranges. In our 4430 my father was bailing and changed ranges from B to A and now the A range is no longer existing. We lost park too because it is connected to A some how. So be carful with your shifting habits.

[@strawberryroan1941]

@@toverublacksmithing9196 The reason you lost park is because the way it works in a JD Quad Range is A and C range mesh and lock together to create park in the transmission. That’s why you really want to be at a full stop when going into park also. It is EXTREMELY important not to shift ranges on the go, doesn’t take very long to destroy the transmission and B range is at the very bottom of the case, so all the other transmission parts have to come out to repair it, and A is the second next worse, as it is on top of B and so on. Costly repairs for something that is so easily avoidable when a person just operates it as it was intended.

[@toverublacksmithing9196]

@@strawberryroan1941 Thanks for explaining that, we aren’t planning on fixing it because we can cut hay in B1. But darn, it was really handy to have A. I thought the way park worked was that there was a nob that came off the case to interlock with A, but I must me thinking of a power shift. The way my dad explained it to me, on power shifts you need, absolutely need to stop before putting it in park because he saw a 7120 throw all of its gears out of the tractor and into the grass beside it because the guy put it in park before stoping, kind of scary to think about.

[@wagner59270]

awesome Ill try to get that done tonight when I go out for chores

[@ivon86]

grinding um inbetween the ranges like that is what keeps diesel mechanics like me a job

[@wagner59270]

not really sure... we replaced the gauge a while ago but if memory serves me correct then its something like 9700 or so... just about time for a rebuild

[@Sparkington9]

Your tractor need it go go juice like I need a coffee in the morning :)

[@TAHMDD]

you need to be sitting still when u shift from A B CD rang thats why its grinding

[@Bigstrapper]

Idle that poor thing down... Knock knock knock knock who's there ?... rod?.. rod who kaboom

[@wagner59270]

yeah its a pretty good settup other than the slap shift doesnt always work

[@wagner59270]

ha ha I wont be keeping any diesel mechanics besides me in job here lol but believe me I know... I just had this tractor split for tranny work last year... its also why I generally dont shift between main ranges, usually I leave it in C or B and just use the secondaries however had viewer that wanted to see it so I figured I would oblige... like they say though if you cant find it, grind it lol

[@woodman1241]

sounds like my cousin's 2755- 75hp 4 cyl. turbo sucks the fuel about like that thing does- now the 2940s are the best on their farm for fuel economy- use them for wraping, spreading shit, baling, raking, hauling silage, sometimes chopping...

[@frankeem3820]

That's what they made the powershift for!

[@wagner59270]

close to 9000 hours on ours and never been opened up

[@matts6887]

Cool video!!! I guess when it comes to fuel efficiency, even some diesels don't always get the best mileage so ya gotta make do with what ya got. for the time being....cause nothing is cheap anymore!!!

[@Martynb891]

you don't need to use your "go go juice" just keep turning the key and will heat up the engine up and start the engine is just cold

[@dilauroj94]

i liked how u made a tune out of the ether

[@matts6887]

Sounds like that cab has a stereo in it too? does it? Cause i know some of the "cab" tractors like urs have some of the same stuff cars have like a stereo and ac/heat unit

[@chkmag3610]

A couple of years ago we bought a 1970 gas 4020 with about 1000 hrs. on it for $4000

[@wagner59270]

this 4230 didnt come with glow plugs or even an ether injection so it kinda sucks for cold starts

[@kadenwatt2033]

Jesus Christ this is NOT how you drive a quad range!

[@wagner59270]

I beleive that is a 40 gallon tank... and holy wow

[@johnnytrash2775]

that is NOT how you drive a quad range!!

[@Kllrkrtt309]

I know right!

[@Tallerico500]

Do you have to run through all the gear ranges to get up to speed, or can you just set it to whatever range and go from there?

[@gasmonkey9600]

How come you're not doing any more videos I love seeing the 4230 working my name is t d

[@powerstrokeman97]

can anyone say this and repeat it with me "OVER HAUL" reminds me of grandpas old 4230 with like 17000 hours !

[@JCB411abuser]

Do you acctualy have to stop every time you change range or is it just the same as a crash gearbox, where you just get the timeing and the throttle right, and have little to no grinding?

[@loganbedard4905]

Doesnt it have an ether injector?

[@GPL24]

nice vid! haw many gallons does it hold in the tank. at least you don't have a turbine engine. in takes 8 gallons to just start the thing.

[@generationll]

There is a power shift between 1-2 and 3-4.

[@ChrisMcEvoy]

great video

[@wagner59270]

ha ha ha right on glad you liked it

[@CJPWNSALL]

my case ih 2394 is about 180 hp it burns about 2-3 gallans per hr and thats runing a 1000 pto round baler that is recomanded 200 hp and it starts way better then this in the cold dont even need either in -5 F it turns over 4 times in that tempeture

[@435now]

One of the sounds that makes me cringe is the sound of a transmission grinding. I don't know why because the only thing that I have ever driven were that would be an issue is my grandpa's Gravely garden tractor. I guess being mechanicaly minded may have something to do with it.

[@bergercw]

gear jamming is soo fun. it is really fun with old diesels. but you never showed how to put your tractor into reverse

[@NESTORMAD]

mira amigo el problema esta en el planetariodebido a que tu tractor trae la transmision quad range la cual tiene dual que es un planetario que el da un avance a cada velocidad. primero debes de revisar las valvulas que se encuentran por la parte izquierda de tu tractor revisa la presion de el planetario si le llega al correcta que es de 75 psi

[@stefant4]

why doesent it have a gas pedal? is it just missing because it's an older tractor,or is it intended that way? because it seems a bit dangerous to me when you're driving on the road and you have to brake suddenly....

[@wagner59270]

anytime dude

[@niceones2143]

Not to be an ass but,you shouldnt start a Diesel With Full Throttle.

[@nalley6815]

2-3 gallons per hour? Uhhhh nah. You can’t even get that with a new 4 cylinder. You’re running like 6 gallons buddy

[@GWALL3322]

We have a john deere 4230 we pull a 568 bailer with it at 2000 rpm and it only uses about a gallon an hour. It fires right up at -10° clearly you don't take care off things

[@tiger5551]

Bruh you stop and shift gears instead of shifting while you drive it, and for gods sakes you only give it a little bit of throttle when you start it up, you will learn someday when you break the damn thing Dang your gonna wear out the gears from grinding them so much lol

[@bigbear585]

its almost impossible to stop every time grind it in lol u cant stop while tryn to pull loads uphill

[@JCB411abuser]

lads it's a crash gearbox, now if you have foot throttle changing ranges would be easy peasy with next to no grind.

[@richthecardude94]

oh well thats kinda dumb they all should well you gota good deal on it anyways 8 k for it we paid 6500 for are 750 with the 67 loader a lil 28 hp gets what needs to be done done so we dont complain

[@wagner59270]

mmmmm coffee... lol

[@jakejohns138]

You should stop to change range

[@wagner59270]

I do not blame you a bit

[@player33due]

why do u spray in short blast of starter stuff rather than 1 long blast

[@Stetsonater]

by now i just would have said "FUCK IT"

[@wagner59270]

yeah alot of agricultural use tractors are produced without glowplugs... most at least have an ether injection port ours however does not... I always wondered why this is and no one has ever been able to give me a solid answer

[@dalekrueger]

seems like most 30 series were quad ranges

[@richthecardude94]

glo plugs and itl fire right up

[@tylercorbin8073]

I would hate to see what you would do with an 18 speed semi, probably put it straight into 18th gear

[@sasop117]

2-3 gallons an hour!!! Thats the same maxing a 650HP selfprepeld heavester!!

[@wagner59270]

oh yes youve guessed it... its coming very soon

[@FunOnTheFarm7]

if i bought a tractor and it started like that id send it back

[@kasonsharber1895]

It’s old and it’s probably cold weathered

[@zacharyprovance3128]

No sir thou art not supposed to shift ranges while in motion.

[@hheywire]

good god 3 gallons per hour, my two cylinder uses about a gallon per hour

[@donofstie8630]

Thanks

[@marcuskastanek7870]

Nice front tires

[@GearHead1625]

how many hours on that tractor?

[@dixielandfarms8628]

Unless it is a synchronized transmission then you should NEVER shift without the clutch!!!!

[@toverublacksmithing9196]

You’re right, but the 1 and 2 gears are power shift. Same goes for the 3 and 4 gears. You do need the clutch to go from 2 to 3 and you always need to stop the tractor and clutch in order to shift from A through D. We have a 4430 and the people before us didn’t stop to shift from A to D, therefore, last year the A range stoped working and in connection with that, park doesn’t work either. It’s very important to use them properly.

[@wagner59270]

sure is

[@sailboat910]

@wagner59270 can u make a video of the batteries that start these things plz??? my rquest

[@farmboy26ful]

any way to make it not grind the gears? been trying not to in my 1050 and she still will no matter what combo i do.

[@GearHead1625]

thats all a chevy is good for a trailer

[@AGravy]

That actualy helped me! Thank you!!

[@willmorris2273]

A Gravenstein NO THATS NOT HOW TO DRIVE A QUAD RANGE

[@someonegood7583]

I've never driven this tractor nor have I been in one but I can tell you are driving it wrong and destroying it

[@jjsoom4665]

in my mahindra 5500 sometimes you can do the same thing

[@bscross32]

u guys got it addicted to ether u know that can actually happen...

[@wagner59270]

I dunno just the way Ive always done it I guess

[@kyleayres2693]

that ain't how you drive a quad range

[@barnettboys13]

fuel use will be down to injectors

[@jamiesmyton9658]

What does the thing he sprayed do?

[@colton3455]

It helps started but it's really bad for the engine

[@allenjanoch]

can you show up how fast can fo and d and 4

[@wagner59270]

@TractorMan490 no arguments from me

[@pornoluecke]

this tractor is really in ass

[@collinreckner3652]

keep making videos

[@raineranneken9150]

Was soll die Spielerei mit dem Handgas ? Wieso fährst Du den Traktor nicht einfach mit dem Fußgas, wie jeder normale Mensch. Außerdem muss der Motor dringend überholt werden .

[@wagner59270]

aint it the truth

[@JasonShipley1979]

Is it smoking during a cold start a good sign?

[@tylercorbin8073]

Jason Shipley it probably is about to fall apart, load up a bale of hay and it throws a rod

[@NESTORMAD]

@lobsterbox20 john deere its the best tractor in the world. no have rivals im mecanic from mexico and the only problem its the tecnicians there is a little good tecnicians for fix well all damages in john deere im one of the best and i fix evrey kind of problem about john dere. and masey and all no have the power and good hidraulic system like john deere

[@biggrigger332]

@JCJaggie No.

[@ABajraktariAdnan]

With Spray is not good to start enginee.

[@buzzerd48]

An absolute hack! You like this tractor? Hate to see how you treat a tractor you hate!

[@truckandtractorpullingvide290]

you treat your tractor like crap eather is not good for tractors

[@Bigstrapper]

truck and tractor pulling videos usa pullers dude it's an 4230 jd there pigs

[@MrLinkan2]

amateur!!! it can be seen right away on your equipment that you cant handle it or take care of it!!!