Wahissa Lodge Vigil Ceremony - 2011

[@tylernguyen7891]

I acknowledge that there is so many things wrong with this, but I have to say, having the chief arrive standing in a canoe is pretty fucking awesome.

[@oldsalt7534]

Really appropriate language to describe a Scout ceremony. I hope you're not a memeber of the BSA.

[@brianmorrow4153]

I do believe there is a National Policy against filming our ceremonies, we prefer everything to be kept mysterious. Also, face paint is supposed to be approved by a Native American Tribe that was originally from the area of your Lodge AND by the National OA Lodge. I trust you did do this, as a Scout is Trustworthy.

[@cjhacker8367]

I think its national policy that there are no secret societies in scouting.

[@orcaowlwizco369]

As an order of the arrow member, I will say that Native Americans loved the land just as much as we scouts. It isn't right to honor the land by making a ceremony as we see fit in their name. After having an absolutely horrifying encounter by a spirit (yes I'm dead serious) I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt they don't like these ceremonies one bit. Whether consulted or not, looking at the practices with open eyes and understanding there are better ways to go about this would be a step in the right direction.

[@brianmorrow4153]

As all ceremonies are open to the public, i agree. even the Vigil Call-out is meant to be open to members only.

[@madman12346]

I agree the Vigil Ceremony should remain private and not filmed

[@immarioantonio]

This wasn't an actual ceremony. The real one is an overnight one, all I heard is that they are taken to seperate locations in the woods, but that is only a rumor. This is probably a call out ceremony.

[@SeanPerkins05]

Mario Casciotta it is the call out ceremony. If they were to record this, wahissa lodge #118 would be p.o.

[@rhondabill6430]

I agree...no face paint..it's in the handbook. Vigil should not be recorded..even tapout

[@planefunpilot]

I shot this video because my son was being tapped out for the Vigil honor and have no say or control over how Wahissa Lodge #118 conducts their tapout ceremonies. The lodge's Ordeal and Vigil ceremonies have been in place and basically unchanged since the 1960's.

[@bluedevil771]

we have actually used this for a game to see how many rules are broken for ceremony teams especially the face painting and use of no shirts

[@tylernguyen7891]

+Evan Boaz I love this

[@michaelmckinney4635]

Evan Boaz not a game 🤔. That’s partly the cause of the changes in the Arrow of Light 😢

[@scottyray12]

This is a great ceromony you guys put alot of passion in it. I would recommend a change in song from the last of the mohicans to Elton Johns Indian Sunset. You can find it on You tube. Mute your video and open a second window and play Indian Sunset while this one plays (but Muted) and you will see just how awesome this can really be.

[@kryptonson]

Why would you post this on facebook? This is a private ceremony for Vigil members/candidates only.

[@jjy0909]

Spent many weeks on Treasure Island. Unfortunately due to extreme flooding.....Treasure Island is now closed.

[@DisneyLover602]

my lodge does similar things with its call out ceremonies at our local camps. call out ceremonies are not a part of OA national standards meaning that they do not have to abide be any of the rules. i support what you guys do as I am a lodge chief.

[@brad012]

i love wahissa lodge!

[@christophernegus]

I wish my Vigil tap out ceremony was that awesome . And I thought you can't wear face paint at all. I am bummed out the lodge I got my Vigil in is not around anymore but I have a lot of patches

[@Supernaturalist]

chris negus you were right. No face paint.

[@ogtunezzz6363]

our guard will were a warbonnets and our chief weres a full headdress to the ankels but a call out ceremony is not a ceremony that is not judgable thats why in events we dont have call out competition beacuse each lodge is diffrent when it comes to call out but you can give them a copy of your script and they can give you corrective judgement but thats all

[@jdog22003]

I've done ceremonies for a long time, and I don't think that I have ever seen a ceremony that is so wrong. Not only is the music and identification of the Chief odd, but also the face paint is indescribably offensive and inappropriate.

[@SeanPerkins05]

jdog22003 wth do you mean "innapropraite and offensive" It's just a ceremony, their lodge does it like that, if you have a problem with it, keep it to yourself.

[@ddday1991]

@@SeanPerkins05 oa-bsa.org/article/ask-chairman-ceremonies

[@DebbieHahn52]

Awesome here in va we do ours different

[@Supernaturalist]

Debbie Hahn where in VA are you? Also this ceremony was not conducted correctly.

[@JayHartin]

I liked it. Wear face paint if you want to. Music was at times distracting ("The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly?") I thought it was cool how the candidates shook the hands of all present Vigil honor members.

[@scottyray12]

Start indian Sunset a 2:46

[@SeanPerkins05]

The son of you? Congrats to your son! (If he is your son)

[@planefunpilot]

Yes, my son Trevor was tapped out for the Vigil honor when this video was shot. Thanks!

[@SeanPerkins05]

@@planefunpilot No problem!

[@ThrushSnowboarding8]

badass

[@brianaskren3118]

Ceremonies like this are why the OA gets a bad rep. It is completely inappropriate, especially with face paint. Also, why is everyone wearing warbonnets of a chief?!?!

[@SuperBlackDiscoJesus]

nobody :D

[@kevinkpk1]

There is nothing safeguarded in this vidio.

[@Supernaturalist]

kevinkpk1 you are entirely wrong

[@williamredfern2683]

Why does no one talk about the recent Scandle with dirty Scout Masters ?,,,,,has it been fully resolved ,, they seem to go on about things of no importance like this ,