WAIT A MINUTE!! | Nine and Dex - Pecan Pie | THE REAL PETE & BAS?! PUZZLE SOLVED?

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[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

To anyone getting mad, it’s all love! It’s no big deal and what everyone on this team has accomplished is beautiful no matter how they do it. No I don’t study their lives or have a camera up their ass to know their entire background but you can tell they work with, for, or together. Just enjoy the music while we can ❤️ And support all these artists 😊

[@havester384]

Anyone that gets man is an idiot lol it was clear from the beginning 😅😂

[@cheshiresInsight]

Could that not be their grandkids?

[@deanosaur808]

The biggest issue cliff, you missed the biggest bar 😅

[@deanosaur808]

@cheshiresInsight Dex and Bas look like they are related. Not so sure about Nine and Pete though. I heard that Pete's niece is Nine's girlfriend. Not sure if that's true 🤷‍♀️

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@deanosaur808 yeah it’s a real channel. I was too focused on patterns. I also don’t associate Osama with”twins”. We all know it was the gov and terrorist. He was just the face they attached to it 23 years ago. It was worded oddly as well. I thought it was a UK reference at first. 🤷‍♂️

[@whiggy6976]

Who said Pete and Bas didn't help ghostwrite this with the kids? Its always been admitted the whole thing is a collective effort, old man sayings and fresh slang.

[@deanosaur808]

Who said that cliff is not helping them too 😂

[@SnailHatan]

Everyone with half a brain said that

[@andrewdonaldson8369]

Bro come on be real. These are the guys. And it doesnt take anything away from how great pete and bas are.

[@erc6943]

@@andrewdonaldson8369nah there are some references that just had to come from the older guys, like references to somewhat obscure gangster movies from back in the day. Nine and Dex for sure do most of it but I think there’s for sure a bit of input from Pete and bas

[@loosescrew42]

Coffee shops, tailor suits, pig farms vs cars, rims, and video games

[@Raven_Enforcer]

@cliffbeatz I found this... Nine is 91shots and Dex is Handsome Dexter. Between them, these guys have almost exclusively produced every Sindhu World track. Pete & Bas, The Northern Boys, PKJ and Norm’s solo tracks, and Uncle Bal too. 91shots has produced the beats for every single Norman Pain track to date. They definitely have a massive hand in the project, whether they are writing and training the old boys with their lyrics or voicing it themselves, it’s genius.

[@cyberash3000]

sindhu is the studio name, its a famous asian ran studio, named after the corner shop that started it.

[@cyberash3000]

the voices are different, they are similar but different.

[@Raven_Enforcer]

@@cyberash3000 ok? It doesn't change the fact that they have been involved with every track.

[@deanosaur808]

@cyberash3000 there is no evidence that it is Asian run. The directors of sindhu world are nine and dex. The only asian link I see is with uncle bal and the original sindhuworld grocery store pages on their old FB/IG pages. Maybe uncle is one of their financial backers but he definitely doesn't run the company. The biggest mystery is what happens to "sindhu" himself. Did he actually exist? 🤔

[@cyberash3000]

@@Raven_Enforcer never said it was, also it doesnt matter if they where, most artists have writers. evenn singers and music makers thaty just operate in blackpool have writers

[@Nemo__]

I wonder if they're trying to make some connections in the states. Pete and Bas have been in LA for a bit.

[@deanosaur808]

I think that is the aim. They have always wanted to do live shows there but their american fanbase is super fragmented. Also, they are a small independent outfit, they don't want to pay big bucks to promoters if there is no guarantee they will sell tickets

[@TurboJayMedia]

I would assume the camera work is the same because Nine and Dex produce all of Sindhu Worlds stuff, and I am assuming Sindhu world is who is doing the filming, I don't think they wrote everything for Pete and Bas the flows and topics are very different, not to mention the cadence

[@bcagz9835]

They’re all related, is it that hard to believe they will sound and act similar when it comes to their music?

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Sounding similar and having the same exact delivery and patterns are completely different topics. They are identical.

[@topshelfdustin3060]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial The delivery and patterns definitely have overlap, but identical is going pretty far. Also...if you spent 7 years working on the music for Pete & Bas...why wouldn't you pick up a lot of their tendencies?

[@trwortham]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial After examining their authenticity for longer than I care to admit, my initial conclusion when I first saw them years ago and my conclusion today remain the same: co-written at least and flowcoached. Dex and Bas being related, and looking remarkably similar, it's not a stretch that they would have very similar physiology in vocal cords, bone structure, affect, dialect, vocal range.

[@brodee2002]

EXACTLY!!! THEM GANGSTA GENES RUN DEEP!! (Pete & Bas are definitely harder)

[@alecschafer1312]

@@trworthamexai agree 100% they gotta do a collab

[@AnotherWun]

I don' t really care if they ghost write for Pete & Bas but I personally don't think they had the same delivery, or charm and they definitely don't have the same impact.

[@amandacollins2854]

These guys might write for Pete and Bas but I like the old guys delivery better .😂

[@topshelfdustin3060]

I mean...Pete & Bas have said their grandkids help them. Meet their grandkids lol

[@MiddleAgedBob]

That is my take. The kids have incredible pens. The geezers have incredible delivery. Whatever they are doing I hope they keep it up.

[@mothermaclean]

They grand kids help with the lingo

[@heatherlynnfairfield]

Pete and boss have always been honest about the fact that their grandkids help them with the current slang. As far as I understand, these are their grandkids, so it makes sense that they sound like the original duo.

[@rud69420]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if these guys do the vocals for Pete and Bas. Same flows and similar voices. I’ve seen Bas doing lip sync stuff a few years back for a TV show and wouldn’t be surprised if he’s doing the same here.

[@lampey6198]

Its not them, the voices sre completely different, fair enough bas's grandson sounds similar to bas, but youd expect that. But writing wise i think pete and bas have told them stories from when they were younger along with old school terms and slang and its all been written in together. Its still pete and bas rapping though.

[@alestevez950]

You know better than to think old white dudes can flow like that. In every single video out you can tell both Pete and Bas are struggling to keep up with the lyrics. Sidenote who are Nine and Dex anyway? They just popped up a few months ago? I’m not convinced they’re the writers either. It’s possible someone else who was ghosting for Pete and Bas are ghosting for them too.

[@lampey6198]

@@alestevez950 You carry on hating mate, just appreciate this for what it is, great music. No matter how it's put together, it's better than pretty much anything else right now.

[@alestevez950]

@@lampey6198 I love the music - no hate from me

[@zombievikinggaming4258]

​@@alestevez950They have live tours

[@alestevez950]

@@zombievikinggaming4258 and? What do you hear? Some dudes rapping along to songs they didn’t record. They clearly have rappers/producers made to sound like Pete and Bas during the recordings. Pete and Bas rapping along to it live won’t point out any differences cause most people naturally sound different live.

[@Penddraig7]

To be fair Pete and Bas have said numerous times that their grandchildren helped them write and they will sound like each other because there are grandpa and grandson and you learn your mannerisms and accent etc from your family, in close families babies spend most of their time with close family members, often grandparents who often are the day care if both parents work, so that connection is not really that big of a thing. I think people are trying to make it out to be some kind of conspiracy theory when really it’s not, it’s blown way out of proportion, but online that seems to be a thing, it’s like an addiction for some people, they seem to live and breathe trying to turn everything into something it’s not, lol People need to get out more, go touch grass, connect with reality

[@greywitchwanderer9608]

Its ageism. At some point this misconception arose that with age every person develops dementia and becomes an invalid. Has no one interacted with 70 year olds? There are plenty of perfectly capable and intelligent people that age. Noam Chomsky is in his 90s. You have bands from the 70s still touring etc. You are the same person you always were even as time passes. Your passions and talents may evolve over time but they dont necessarily disappear. Pete and Bas obviously kept sharp and with how they behave theyve kept in touch with their youth. The whole crew of Geezers seem to be trying to break the misconceptions of what it means to be old and breaking the stigma of how old people should behave. In videos they are dancing, having cookouts and playing soccer. They quite literally are the same people they were at 20 but time happened. Their backs and bodies have changed but they still are them. Its disappointing because I see the message they are trying to promote but people are still too closeminded in 2024 to believe them. Also a lot of Americans buy into this misconception about age because age is not valued here. Youth and beauty are. Americans often do get sick at these ages because of a lack lf healthcare, processed unhealthy foods and lord knows what other toxic stuff, and working themselves to death most of their lives. They become like a husk and buy into the social pressure to behave and believe a certain way. No matter what age you are, you matter and are valued imo. You choose your way of life. This gives me the same vibes as when a new study comes out that says some animal is actually intelligent, or can feel pain unlike what was previously believed. We dont know $hit! We should let people show us who they are and what they can do instead of constantly being shocked by the obvious, gasp, old people can be talented too.

[@sutters7251]

@@greywitchwanderer9608spot on. I’m now 52. So no dementia yet! Although I forget names and words more than I used to! My mind still feels like I’m 20. I’m older wiser but the feeling of being me that 20 year old is the same. It’s just that my hip hurts when I coach football now whereas I used to play all day! My back is stiff after two hours of driving and it takes 5 steps to walk upright after I get out of the drivers seat! I no longer smoke a quarter a day. It’s been a long time since I’ve double dropped E’s and I know it’s magic mushroom time but between work and kids being off my face no longer appeals!!! Raving and going to knebworth to see oasis are lovely distant memories. Women I’ve loved and lost and friends that have passed. When I was younger the universe spun around me. I had this magnetism this Gravity. Although I’ve still got respect I can see the younger generation already discounting my life and experience. I can understand and forgive that, I was the same. But as you say all the passion and life doesn’t really leave you. It just mellows and you also have to give yourself rest. Three day benders are now three hour benders and three days recovery!!!❤️‍🩹 🙏👍

[@claireb9127]

91 shots and Handsome Dexter are producers on Pete&Baz’s work. Pete & Baz have said that they write with their grandchildren and you can see that, but the old lingo that Pete & Baz use is not well known to a lot of the youth. But it’s a collaboration in my opinion, Nine and Dex were fire in this though and I couldn’t care less if they wrote every bar that Pete & Baz rap

[@SeeDaRipper...]

The fact that you used "couldn't care less" lifts my heart....Props.

[@topshelfdustin3060]

Any surprise the grandkids Pete & Bas have always said help them write their music, and have been doing it with them for 7 years,. plus were doing the beats for them (91 shots, Nine...get it) and Dex (handsom dexter) are going to make similar music to what they already do? That said much like all the groups from Sindhu who are produced under 91, they have their own voice and feel. Also seriously, Bas's grandkid looks EXACTLY like him. It's kinda creepy how similar they look. Also with that...not a shocker they sound alike.

[@softanarchy9404]

They do live shows, that’s their flow and their voice. Just not as polished as when it’s mastered obviously. And that’s their grandsons, they’ve said that they help them write. But Pete and Bas even have behind the scenes on KZbin of them doing different takes with just their raw vocals and talking between the verses. It’s just a collaborative effort 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dacronicspotgaming6104]

Whatever the case is , these two have bars . 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ' Cai packs im sparking it and im running through twins like Osama did . 🔥🔥

[@jonathanbrand-]

Nine and Dex are the stage names of 91shots and Handsome Dexter, the two producers of most of Pete and Bas tracks. They are also DJs during live shows. The song "Pecan Pie" by Nine and Dex is a collective effort, with both Nine and Dex admitting to help from their grandfathers, Pete and Bas.

[@x192743tf]

These guys are 91 Shots and Handsome Dexter, credited on every song by Pete and Bas and even a lot of the Northern Boys too. The smoking gun that proves they're the ones doing all this is they're both the directors of Sindhu World, the owners of Sindhu Sesh where these guys first came out. They're listed on the company directory under their actual names and have been since like 2017, Bas is a piano player and former notary and council member for Croydon, real name Basil Preuveneers. He's also done some background acting work. Im 90% sure Dex does the voice for Bas, it becomes clearer when you listen to the american version of old men rappers Frank and Maury because one of their voices is literally "Bas" with an american accent. Frank and Maury were also managed by Sindhu World. Petes a bit trickier because his speaking voice is really close to his rapping voice, and his flow clearly changed and improved as they released songs so I'm pretty sure he's actually rapping. I still think Pete and Bas help with writing purely based on some of the more obscure old school references they make in their songs. So they weren't exactly lying when they said they do their own writing, they just don't do it alone. I'm not saying this to out them because I don't think it diminishes how fucking incredible they are at writing and rapping, it's clear now that they've stepped in front of the camera they've decided they want the mask to slip. Wouldn't surprise me if they announce the whole thing this year, the novelty has worn off for some people I think.

[@ClifffSVK]

What if it's the other way around and Pete and Bas write and lay down reference tracks for Nine and Dex? 🤔

[@_morris184]

Lol come on

[@petercoyne8300]

It’s not though is it… Pete and bas deliver it better for me . But these guys write and produce all Pete and bas tracks

[@Kylegouws]

😂

[@yn7751]

You're right. It seems that Nine and Dex are very talented but couldnt break out onto the scene as themselves, so they created the Pete and Bas characters (gangster backstory, old men rapping is a novelty) for their grandfathers and made them rap the lyrics. The voices are definitely Pete and Bas, but theyre coached on how to deliver it. Now that Pete and Bas careers have taken off they are piggybacking on it to relaunch their own careers as rappers, Both the grandfathers and the grandsons are clearly very talented, the lyrics and flows are insane, Pete and Bas deserve credit for rapping in their old age, i can see why Nine and Dex want to be more than just the behind-the-scenes, they really do deserve the fame.

[@hgb0005]

I think this is as close as you can get to the real story of what's going on with them. They are amazingly talented. As rappers/writers and as producers/beat makers

[@rud69420]

Would love to see anyone provide solid evidence that these guys are the grandchildren of Pete and Bas vs the producers who hired them as actors for the gig. Everything I’ve seen seems consistent with the grandchildren thing being a cute made up backstory to explain why the old dudes can rap.

[@burtman.]

No one will because it's a cover story as you've worked out

[@Top.G.Andy.C]

As a british guy, I'll tell you the facts. Pete and bas are grandads to nine and dex. Simple as that. Family love ❤

[@LiquidMeadows]

They're not actually related, that was just made up to give cover. Pete and Bas are just actors

[@MattBirch1991]

These two produce everything Pete&Bas do. Plus as their grandkids they help keep up with the slang

[@suzanneluvspeteandbas]

Much love and blessings to Nine and Dex.❤

[@LastTryMedia]

Firstly, kinda stands to reason that family will have similarities in both appearance and even voice/accent. Secondly it's always been well known that these 2 help Pete and Bas write their bars. Pete and Bas do most of the heavy lifting while these guys help with culture references/lingo etc. to keep them current. Don't get me wrong I know it's all love, but try not to take away from the old boys' ability!

[@guycampbell733]

Good bars boring voices. I'd really rather hear Pete & Bas do these verses - i don't care who wrote them. Also, Pete & Bas have geezer bars that no one under the age of 60 understands, so I don't think they're 100 ghost written.

[@deanosaur808]

Slight exaggeration with the age 😂 I don't know anyone over the age of 60 that's actually breaking down their bars in youtube videos. Can you name any? 😅 The best bar dissecting is done by reactors that are under 50 🤷‍♀️

[@RickyT15]

Heres some info i found looking about online. According to BMI Songview which details offical copyright license details or registered people, Addison Barnaby Baxtor (handsome dexter) and Gibson Jonathon Charles Lewis (91 shots) ( Nine and Dex in the recent song) are the only listed writers/composers with pete and bas listed as performers on some songs but not most of them its mainly blank. Those 2 are also the 2 Directors and only position holders of SinduWorld as listed on Company House UK. SinduWorld was also behind Frank and Maury and do the music for all the old ones in the group.

[@Regailion]

On that simpsons bar - sizlack is Moe's surname

[@magnetsoldiercephas331]

As someone who always wanted to be a producer, any tips and insights you share are a blessing Cliff. I’d love to talk to you one day. I respect what you do and how you let others reach out. You can always reach out as well Cliff, you aren’t alone either. Take care and thanks for sharing your gift.

[@Consta-yy7pc]

Nine 1 and Handsome Dex are the Producers for Pete and Bas. So the beats will be similar.

[@ClaudeYoung]

I don't understand how people have a problem with believing that these 2 guys are just grandsons of pete & bas. Its not any deeper than that. If you know anything about the UK and the culture, Pet & Bas totally make sense. I mean I was lucky enough to live there for 15 years. Thery are just 2 old gangster types that can flow. And its not much of a stretch to assume that the kids of course have an influence but its not some grand conspiracy to hide something. The 2 old guys are DOPE AF, just give them their props and keep it movin. These guys are fire AF. Nine is 91Shots the producer for Pete & Bas beats. Dex is Handsome Dexter also a producer if im not mistaken.

[@Rhiunlol]

Unfortuntatly, after doing some digging I think you're right, Cliff. Ghost written or not, Vocals dubbed or not, I still love the music.

[@EvaMetalhankle]

I ❤ them! Meaning Pete and Bas... And if they collaborate with their grandsons... Man, that's quality time with the kids! Cute! Also... it's great humour! 😊 UK is King on their humour!

[@muckrakish2163]

Collaborate yes. Team effort yes. Younger guys writing for P+B yes. Good team result..just not grandsons! The grandsons part is a really annoying fake back story.

[@topshelfdustin3060]

@@muckrakish2163 wtf? Did you see the one guy? He's so similar to Bas, I'd believe he's his actual clone.

[@deanosaur808]

@topshelfdustin3060 there is a resemblance but no noticed this until pete and bas said they were their grandsons 😂 they both appeared in "you know it's christmas". It was no secret what they look like, even if they are guilty of mass deleting older content on their IG accounts 😆

[@topshelfdustin3060]

@@deanosaur808 weren't they supposed to be their grandkids in that video too? I always wondered if those were their real wives or not as well.

[@deanosaur808]

@topshelfdustin3060 it looked that way to me too, but I can't be certain if they are all related 🤷‍♀️ Norman could be nines uncle or father, it's all speculation 😂

[@petercorr784]

What if these guys actually have Pete & Bas ghost writing for them? 😂

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

With the slang they are using? Highly doubtful. Pete and bas are using terms created over the last couple years. 🤷‍♂️

[@eh-fp6lj]

@@CliffBeatsOfficialthey also use slang that was only used for their generation pretty often. By your logic, that implies that they must have written it lmao. All 4 of them have said that the grandsons help with modern slang and writing and you’re somehow surprised 😂

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@eh-fp6lj I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a group project. The average amount of song writers per song is 12 artist so 4 wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility.

[@eh-fp6lj]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial I appreciate the reply. Interaction from creators that are as busy as you is rare. I saw another reactor’s reaction and he pointed out a few of the bars were different from Pete and Bas’s normal flow structure/style but I can’t deny that atleast half of the bars do sound very much like Pete and Bas’s flow and rhyme structure. I think that’s somewhat expected though because Bas’s grandson looks and sounds almost exactly like him. If they hadn’t done so many live shows already I’d probably believe that their grandkids voice the bars for them

[@eh-fp6lj]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial I feel like Bas’s grandson delivers his flow slightly slower and more calmly. That’s not exactly the best wording to explain what I mean but I can’t think of a better description of the difference at the moment

[@desireoverpain]

Pete&Bas have stated their grandsons help them write. I wouldn't be shocked if their grandsons did >90% of the writing and taught them to mimic their styles as well.

[@delpoi]

Honestly I think Pete and Bas do actually spit the bars cause they do live shows and a voice changer wouldn't be ideal, although if it was then they have entertained a lot of people cause the bars the lyrics the flows are always brilliantly done; it might be a case now we're maybe they want to step back and let their grandson's take the limelight and am definitely here for it they are good ✌️

[@demstartah2173]

More bahz than a Ram squaring up the opz 😅🐐💥💢🐏

[@loosescrew42]

I don't think they're ghost writers. Pete and Bas have stories more in line with their age... coffeeshops, tailors, pig farms. These boys are bragging their own shit. P&B have made no secret to the fact that their grandsons...and granddaughters have helped them tidy up lyrics, come up with rhyme schemes and flows that might chop the sentence but maintain the rhyme, and the biggest assist, Pete says, is staying up to date with the slang and youth colloquialism. As for seeing them all together, i was just reading a post on Reddit, and someone posted that Nine and Dex were at a Pete and Bas show...this person said he was at the soundboard with them. They are the main producers for P&B and he said he umderstood them to be at all their live shows. He knew for certain that they were not secretly miked backstage with P&B lip syncing and he seemed to understand the setup well enough to guarantee there was also no recording be played, especially since there was a messup on the lyrics that went along with what he saw Pete and Bas doing. I have heard Pete and Bas in interviews and their talking voices match their rapping voices.

[@Capnamerica84]

No, Deangelo Asesino, also known as Dex, is not the voice of Bas. Instead, Pete and Bas are a British hip hop duo consisting of Peter Bowditch and Basil Bellgrave. Pete and Bas are known as the "grandfathers of UK drill". They've been active since 2017 and are signed to Sindhuworld. The duo have said that they write their own songs, but they do get help from their grandchildren, including Deangelo Asesino, who goes by the stage name Dex

[@elatedsoup7902]

Watch the video for Pete & Bas - Get Low. It's filmed in the same field with the motor-cross jumps in the background

[@magnetsoldiercephas331]

Love how your head bobs naturally. True music lover

[@suzanneluvspeteandbas]

Much love and blessings to Pete and Bas.❤

[@samshaw1768]

Seeing them live these old geezers can rap! No secret they had family members help them write

[@starryeyes2810]

New sub with LOVE FROM THE UK!!🤗❤️🤍💙❤️🤍💙❤️🤍💙❤️🤍💙🥰

[@jakob3044]

Pete and bas have a few live shows recorded on youtube, so I doubt it's a voiceover, but obviously it's a collective effort

[@damienculverhouse641]

i think these two taught them the basics then Pete and bas turn it into their own style why i think there's a slight similarity

[@immenseorg]

Saw P&B and Northern Boys live recently and they were definitely not miming.

[@letni9506]

I believe nine and dex have a big hand in it but it's the old guys voices. You can hear the age and raspiness in them. It's been too consistent and gone on too long to be a joke. Pete sounds exactly the same when he talks. Old people can sing and still have rhythm. If you have rhythm and are quick thinking spitting bars isn't hard. The way they do it isn't too complex. It's nothing they couldn't do with practice and obviously they've had a lot over the last few years.

[@PottersbyInnes]

Pete and Bas did live shows. Definately their own voices.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

I’ll have to look those up but that’s good to know

[@immenseorg]

⁠@@CliffBeatsOfficialI saw them live in March. Not as polished as the recorded output but definitely them. They are def the writers though.

[@BelfastRobin]

I've been to their show in Belfast last year. Spoke to Pete as well. I always suspected they didn't write but there's no denying they perform and deliver. Seen it with my own eyes and heard it obviously

[@marccummings657]

@@BelfastRobin I was at that show aswell😄

[@BelfastRobin]

@@marccummings657 haha legend

[@MarleneSB]

Shh.. wrestling isn't fake! But you're right about the old boys aging out, it's smart of Barney to get ahead of it, but lets hope Pete and Bas and the boys are here for years to come!

[@DJArkum69]

I think Pete & Bas tell them there stories, and the grandkids put those into verses.

[@Boots_McScoots]

Conspiracy theory: with his recent health problems, Pete isn't going to be able to keep doing this much longer, so the kids are putting stuff out now to grab the listeners while they can.

[@magnetsoldiercephas331]

Well if your blood has the talent, pass it on. Blessing to work with family

[@peteh4683]

Pete & Bas stand by the fact that they write their own songs, but have admitted that they get help from their grandchildren, which is fair considering the ever-changing aspects of drill music and the UK street slang, their grandsons drop the beat.

[@l3rimm]

I heard they're related. Dex is the spit of bas and has a similar voice. But they are different, I'm sure of it. It's no surprise Pete and bas have had help writing their bars, but I also believe Pete and bas contribute heavily to the vernacular used and of course their delivery speaks for itself.

[@NyVsEvery1]

That tall guy is Bas grandson . They look identical

[@caseybaggett2260]

Nine and Dex are the grandsons of Pete and bas and Pete and bas admitted they used their grandsons to help write to keep up with the modern day lingo but before they got old they use to write their own stuff so nine and Dex do write for them just to keep up with the modern day lingo

[@dkzwengert]

I got the bag like “check out” “Check in” the room and “spread”out “Spreading” the news I’ve landed Knock at the door she’s “checking” the bed out

[@jakubozarek75]

99shots and handsome dexter

[@deanosaur808]

Too many shots 😅

[@SneakyDecoy72]

It’s been well known for quite a while that Pete and Bas’s grandsons were ghost writing for them

[@callsignsnarky6348]

I’d love a sesh with these guys and Pete and bad. Pete and bas on a chill track like this would blow my mind

[@jr4653]

"cali pack, i'm sparking it, while i run through twins like osama did" and cliff aint even catch it, jeez

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Idk who that is

[@jr4653]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial osama bin laden responsible for 9/11 , the twin towers, but he means 2 twin girls, cant believe i needed to elaborate as well, u slipping cliff lol, much love

[@VinnySpermatozza]

You don't know who Osama bin Laden organized the destruction of the "twin" towers? I guess thats possible. ​@@CliffBeatsOfficial

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@jr4653honestly wasn’t even thinking of it. Happened 23 years ago and I was focused on their delivery because it’s eerily close to Pete & Bas. I miss stuff, this is a real channel, not one with cuts and edits/ fake bs

[@jr4653]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial there was no disrespect to you lol, just thought you mightve caught it, i know what you/the channel is all about, that's why i watch you, peace

[@eh-fp6lj]

Dex’s voice is so much clearer than Bas’s. They may sound similar but Dex has no grit or raspiness he just has a deep voice like, almost like his grandfather had a deep voice or something 🤔

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

They can be the ghost writers for Pete & Bas all they want because its not just the bars that make Pete & Bas its the delivery and flow as well...

[@phoy3619]

This has been known and (to me at least) doesnt hurt their credibility or talent AT ALL

[@deanosaur808]

Nine and Dex made their first appearance on the artwork to Keys and Bags (the audio release) You can see the tops of their heads 😂 I always knew they were the two guys that appeared at their live shows

[@matthewwalker5430]

It's kind of funny watching people see this video and then state "Pete & Bas ghost writers" like they've cracked a code. Nine & Dex are credited on most Pete & Bas tracks (as 91 Shots and Handsome Dexter) and they're related to Pete & Bas (I mean, Nine is the spitting image of Bas, lol). It's a family thing, so it isn't as simple as saying they're just "ghost writers" and Pete & Bas made no secret of the fact they get help off their grand kids, but as a lifelong Londoner myself I'm pretty certain Pete & Bas write a lot of their own lyrics too as they include a lot of the slang and references from older generations that, I guess, might not be so detectable to those listening from outside the UK

[@josephcoen665]

I guess you're not as old as Pete and Bas, yet you know the 'old time' slang. So why wouldn't Nine & Dex? Especially if they are related. I'm sure they would have spent time with the oldsters in family get togethers and pubs. If you get a mixed age bunch in Bermondsey pub today, it'll sound more old school cockney than Croydon!

[@RoarinRoots]

If are one and the same, I want to think its Dex & Nine using Pete & Bas voices 🤭🤣

[@rossomaguire17]

They literally have the same ‘omelette deux fromage’ intro as Pete and Bas tunes, the lyrics on the video are the same font and color as Northern Boys videos. It’s obvious these are the guys behind everything.

[@yamch]

Casisdead is also rumoured to ghostwrite for them, which makes more sense as they use multiple flows from him.

[@_gr1nchh]

The accents and where they're from are why they sound similar. It's the accent, not the voice. Bas & Pete's accents are different and so are Nine & Dex. I do not think at all that these two ARE Pete & Bas, at all. The conspiracy theory I've seen from reactors has actually killed how fire this song is since the whole time people just keep saying how this is Pete & Bass ghostwriters or that it's them without effects or whatever. Maybe they're ALL talented? It's not that far fetched. It could be that Nine & Dex helped them figure out their flow because Pete & Bas sound the same on almost every song with the same flow. So it's like they taught them one flow and now Pete & Bas write their own music with that one flow in mind. It's not that hard to write in this style, it's a simple kind of scheme. These bars go WAY harder than what Pete & Bas do for sure in terms of all the doubles and such. They might assist them but I don't think I'd say they're full on ghostwriters for them, much less them actually being them.

[@demstartah2173]

These ladds ten steps ahead of everybody❤enjoy!!😅

[@luiscontreras5206]

You can’t see anything about the heat they sound the same if they’re related, I think Pete and battery is literally rewriting for them because there’s nowhere impossible. These guys are riding for them.

[@sonnyhutchins3141]

Pete an bas have done live shows at most they might write for eachother but let's be honest if your granddads was rappers you'd follow there flows and plus Pete and bas have been around for years theses have just popped up

[@demstartah2173]

91 & dex got them geezers bars too.."aye yo pops come rap this for me..😂🎉❤

[@trwortham]

Haters can't see that they're a family band /s There are unknowns amongst the P&B detectives, and I doubt anyone without direct knowledge from an insider can claim certainty, but honestly, all the evidence I've seen and speculated on points to Pete and Bas delivering, on wax and live, with the power of modern music production affecting both. Pete and Bas get tired on stage? Nine and Dex adjust the volume of the backing track and deliver as background rappers. I hope they're not nearing retirement, but father time being undefeated, it would make sense for them to emerge at some point to continue production as a business decision.

[@Carmine3125377jr]

Oh wow I mean it could be. Now that you're showing it. And honestly who cares it's entertaining as hell regardless. They should do one together.

[@paddyr1568]

Pete and Bas have always said their grandsons got them into drill and help them with their writing. It ain’t them rapping tho

[@j.t.3798]

Sounds alot like Pete and Bass? 🤔🫢

[@deanosaur808]

Same producers!

[@OGblaize]

have you done norman pains sindhu sesh yet?

[@mongrelthesnowchimp7676]

As a fan of pete and bas I say with confidence that nobody cares who writes their rhymes... Like with Eric Wright....

[@coreyrees840]

Yeah……… I dunno now hahahaha first dude definitely comes off as BAs and second dude sounds like Pete. Not the vocal tones persay even though that’s kinda there too, but simply the way each of their flows and cadences match up near exactly how the old boys slide

[@jeffcowell3330]

How Old were they in 2017?

[@BrettShadow]

I don't see two old guys who haven't been raised on rap could take someone else's bars and deliver them in the pockets and the with the cadence that PandB do... and their references are specific. "Old school but I still bust shots I'm a Luger" Nobody but gun geeks and old heads know what a Luger is

[@letni9506]

It's something you can learn to do. It's like singing in tune and in time. Not everyone can do it but many people of all ages can. It's not so overly complex that they couldn't pick it up. They have been doing it a few years now.

[@self_improvement_d]

Same with the "I'm in Casablanca" line. Who besides film nerds and old people have seen Casablanca?

[@berniewatts5028]

Let’s go 👍🏽👍🏽👋👋AOD ❤️❤️👵🏼

[@paulhancock]

I never believed Pete & Bas wrote any of it, and I don't care at all. It's fun entertainment... Just take it for what it is! They've created something cool.

[@deanosaur808]

They definitely contribute to the writing, especially the older tracks, the first 8 at least. Later tracks like golf, speeding, bermondsey etc could easily be half written by P&B

[@dominiccampbell181]

Honestly, I think that Pete and Bas write, but they have help from their grandkids; they even said as much.

[@foundpat]

Eminem done a lot of writing for Dr dre. If its good enough for them whats the problem... Pete and Bas have a great flow.

[@bw2020]

No one got the melonpan reference unless you’ve been to Japan

[@deancarnegie3725]

Pete and bass are there grandads. !!!!!!!!!!!

[@cecilmoore7781]

I think that these guys are coming forward because of the old man's age and health. But mine is the producer for their musics

[@mirasbrush4607]

To me it seems equally likely that there's a backgrounder doing this work for all 4 of them.

[@deanosaur808]

Nah, these two real. There's enough proof out there to prove they are both writers, producers and the owners of sindhu world

[@connamiller879]

Everyone knew thier grandkids wrote thier stuff

[@jakeosully]

The brick top reference is about a cockney mob boss in the movie snatch

[@mothballenema9595]

Surprised that the Swedish bar was legit 😅

[@Eddie-ol9cv]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@davidnettles4734]

I think it’s the other way around and Pete and Bas write for them

[@Alex-gb7sm]

I always thought Cliff was a little dumb so i thought he'd buy in to the "grandkids" narrative like a lot of people in the comments. A large portion of Pete and Bas's fanbase sound like children that are trying to justify that Santa Claus is in fact real. I'm with Cliff though. And i don't think there's any shared genetics either. Although yes, it's a narrative that can be pushed because there are some similarities in appearance between Dex and Bas, amplified by the identical voices/cadence.

[@Gieser8]

There is nothing about their delivery that sounds like Pete or Bas other than that they speak with an English accent and dialect 😂 Pete and Bas flex more styles and older rhyme schemes that can be spanned to a lot of older poems and songs structures before Nine or Dex were born Pete is/was into music before forming the group Bas delivery has more energy than his grandson's And Pete's raspy rapid deliver as well The grandsons are more on a cool flow

[@Emilie-one]

Honestly, I’m OK with it. If they help write the Pete and bas raps Or even if they wrote the whole thing… Those old men have got the best flow and delivery. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say that I prefer Pete and bas better

[@Comedy.tunes.battier]

Unless this is Milli vanilli

[@deanosaur808]

Definitely not! That would be suicidal 😅