Wait, Democrats now say they love freedom? | Reason Roundtable | August 26, 2024

[@stopinvadingmyprivacy8375]

29:30 RFK is correct when he says nearly 30% of children are diabetic or prediabetic. 0.35% of children (

[@guatemalan360]

Thank you for correcting Nick's half hearted search

[@ChiTownOriginator]

This Nick guy is a F-ing joke. Seems like he loves the establishment.

[@Pete-hm5gw]

Thanks for this comment. It seems like the people that s**t on RFK never gave him a genuine listen; they were against him from the start. Nick is yet another of these. So sad. I expect it from the others on this show but I thought Nick was the voice of...

[@jackjrabbit]

Tim didn't say anything about the government minding its own business. 😊😊😊

[@jderoma4382]

The Telegram/Durov ridiculousness is akin to the US federal govt holding AT&T liable for the many phone calls between mafia members in the '50's. 60's, '70's, '80's, etc.

[@dfdf4874]

Excuse me, did Nick just make the claim that Democrats are centrists?! I guess according to Nick, as long as you’re not advocating for mass deportations of illegals, marriage and having kids, you’re in the middle. FFS that is the stupidest position I’ve ever heard.

[@liamwinter4512]

Change the word "stupidest" to ignorant

[@dravenlee4473]

My big problem with both candidates is their inconsistency. Harris wants pro-choice federally (good) but then Walz will say "hate speech" and "misinformation" aren't free speech (they are). Meanwhile, Trump says he's the party of freedom of speech while then saying people should be put in prison for burning the flag and loosening the laws to go after journalists. Can we please get someone that isn't an authoritarian and/or selective freedom candidate?

[@Matta912]

Close your eyes and pick your policy - Trump likes to talk and say things, but what was his Policy? Who made the snitch line in MN during covid to report on your neighbors? Who funded the MN Freedom fund and let criminals back out and commit additional crimes? Who has been part of an administration that has let unchecked immigration at our southern border run roughshod over our country and create chaos? When were things better - during the Trump years or the Biden/Harris years? If you want more of the same since Jan 2021, well, let's just hope you do not.

[@Anderson33333]

How is forcing other people in other states you need not ever visit to adopt your more narrow view of who has the right to life libertarian? What's wrong with the voting with your feet? What's wrong with having a consistent constitutional system that leads such unmentioned domestic issues to the states?

[@enclave6285]

Because using guns and badges to force your personal moral beliefs on others is not libertarian, it’s theocratic and authoritarian whether the badges are state or federal.

[@Anderson33333]

@@enclave6285 there's a huge difference both constitutionally, practically, and morally between a state and federal badge. Constitutionally speaking the feds have no right to have a badge at all they're supposed to be a government of foreign not domestic objects. Morally speaking because you can easily move between states. You have as an individual have chosen with your feet to submit yourself to a particular state's laws by continued presence in said state in a way that is not necessarily the case in regard to the federal Union from from which you do not necessarily have a place to go. This is why under the federal Constitution you're also not supposed to have domestic laws like that which need escape from as an individual. Practically speaking the Congressional system lacks the bandwidth to negotiate more than a few issues a year. Allowing them to deal with the issues of 300 million Americans rather than simply a few hundred states both foreign and domestic is just asking for delegated judgment that in practice is obscurely unaccountable and thus corrupt. So yes where an issue is decided is infact more important than what is decided. As where also deciding what you As an individual can do about it, as well as practically how well it's managed.

[@rfphill]

Clearly this group is the D wing of the L party...

[@neoturfmasterMVS]

Libertarians are, to keep it simple divided into two main camps. Reason is the big city Liberals tracing their roots through Ayn Rand vs the not in the mayor metroplex's Libertarians tracing their root through Rotherbard.

[@robertjones7327]

They say Freedom… I kinda think they mean the other thing

[@m.iramiles9310]

Utah is such a vastly surperior place to say, New York, it's not even funny.

[@wesleywest4942]

Part of me is hoping Harris wins so that we'll get rid of Walz here in MN.

[@Dana-pq7ke]

It is so terrible. We are about to buy a house should we leave MN?

[@vikkiiam3083]

😂😂😂

[@liamwinter4512]

The sheep are being lead eagerly to the cliffs edge. Blue no matter who and Red until dead are the mantras of a death cult.

[@ricardodsavant2965]

You are free to report your neighbors for wrongthink to central committee. Have a nice day...🤪

[@jeffjwatts]

These guys are great! I like the video far more than the Podcast format.

[@canadianroots7681]

This double hater will probably be voting for Oliver.

[@joshumbaugh8978]

Utah is a BEAUTIFUL state!

[@Dana-pq7ke]

We want to move to Utah!

[@liamwinter4512]

Parts of it. Very very small parts of it.

[@smotpoker81]

25:05 "politics cannot fix us. that's what alcohol is for." suderman for the win. that's pretty much all i needed to hear. gonna go back to nursing this bottle of ten high

[@enclave6285]

Freedom to not have the government regulate personal moral decisions, freedom to live in a country with rule of law, freedom from oppressive social policies, book bans, interference in parenting decisions. Freedom for people within 100 miles of the border to not live within a militarized police stage. Freedom for western democracy from Russian and Chinese political influence. Freedom from oppressive zoning policies.

[@m.iramiles9310]

Of all the lightweight, no-name candidates the LP has put up over the years, Oliver may be the most ridiculous. He has all the gravitas of a birthday balloon.

[@davidhernandez9985]

LP must join #MEGA🇺🇸 especially if your party gets lower than the curb voting this November. Vote early for D.T.J.👍🏻🇺🇸!

[@carolina_D]

I love and respect you guys but on the RFK jr issue, I still don’t get why you dislike him… I’ve heard the complaint from a million years ago that he wanted to give the death penalty to corporations about the environment (yes terrible) but… is that it?? Really?? He strikes me as a decent man who can actually speak articulately and seems well educated (unlike Trump). You lose me when you don’t explain your issues with him. Is it something else you don’t discuss??

[@carolina_D]

What am I missing here?? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@IAmInterested-cc4hr]

Pure jealousy, they have a magazine, a show, a political party, and can not get a candidate with half the support of RFKjr Mostly though, they are lazy, i doubt they bothered ever listening to his talks or trying to find the truth in what he says look at how nick says less tab 1 percent are diabetic and ignores the horrible pre-diabetic stat from the CDC of over 25 percent. Nick may not have even bothered to find out what pre diabetic is, which is a significant A1C test that means basically without a dramatic and significant diet and lifestyle change you will be diabetic in 10 years, and if that is happening in your 20s your lifespan decrease is higher than a life long smoker

[@Kennedy1op]

​@@carolina_Dthey don't like his stance on vaccines

[@carolina_D]

@@Kennedy1op I gathered as much… I’m not sure what to make of the kids vaccines issue either but he otherwise comes across as a sincere person. Maybe I’m naive…

[@enclave6285]

I would like him if we wasn’t so clearly parroting Russian propaganda and relaying disproven pseudoscientific nonsense. I think he’s probably a decent man with some mental health issues that cause him to lack critical thinking skills.

[@canadianroots7681]

As someone who lives in New Mexico, I love having so much BLM land around. Take a side by side and ride through canyons… it’s fun.

[@tooge47]

then YOU should have NO trouble showing all of us a constitutional basis FOR BLM land................waiting

[@UntriedGenius]

This idea that libertarians should be for open borders is so stupid! How can someone like Nick who at least Pretends to be logical not understand the need for borders?

[@m.iramiles9310]

They want the open borders now, retroactively even, and the welfare reform later. But libertarians are romantics, so ...

[@fred_fotch_baseball]

You clearly don't understand what Libertarian means

[@BrapBang]

@@fred_fotch_baseball I guess Libertarian means no state at all? How can you have a state wihtout borders?

[@waterkingdavid]

​@@BrapBangPut in another way how can you have a state without immigration. The whole immigration "thing" is as old as the hills and absolutely isn't as important as it's made out to be. It's trigger bait.

[@deesus1085]

@@fred_fotch_baseballyou clearly think real libertarians would be part of a libertarian party

[@tjhoenecke]

WTF, a Better Help sponsorship?! Do your research....

[@jamesbizs]

Wow, really? That’s sad. Of all channels, this one ?

[@jackjrabbit]

look on the bright side. The torture that Catherine will have to endure from Peter if President flip-flop gets elected. think of all the footwear jokes.

[@davidhoyt4006]

Is Nick drinking out of a Kamala mug? Or should I say, Mommala?

[@vikkiiam3083]

Ever since Covid happened nick has been slipping away. covid really got to him.

[@ray7707]

"Double Hater" here!

[@MrTBify]

I just found this discussion and listening to it was insightful. I enjoy the intellectual conversations. It would serve you well to not disparage RFK jr. In the way some of you did. He is very smart and probably smarter than all 4 on this video. His speech with Trump was 5 out of 10. His first speech earlier in the day was a 9/10 and showed why people supported him. Weather you agree with his positions he has a way of getting his message across like a true politician. He may be old but should not be under estimated. Dont forget, Vote Trump 2024!

[@tooge47]

" Intellectual conversations," LOL, that is ALL Libertarians do............talk.

[@daheikkinen]

Weirdos unite!

[@susancoughlin222]

Great intro monologue!

[@idadru]

This conversation doesn't make me excited about libertarianism.

[@tooge47]

Libertarians............pffft. They TALK the talk, but don't WALK the walk. When a REAL advocate of freedom and liberty ( ME ) gets crushed by the powers of the state, Libertarians RUN FOR COVER ! SMH in disgust

[@daheikkinen]

Feel the joy of freedom!

[@tooge47]

@@daheikkinen I WILL..............once the federal gov't is gone

[@jacoboblanco3696]

Just to point out that Telegram is not exactly fully encrypted. My understanding is that private messages can be encrypted but that's not enabled by default, and that group conversations are not encrypted at all. This is all besides the point about govt. wanting more control and access. This arrest likely will have some kind of chilling effect regardless of the details.

[@utah_koidragon7117]

Norma do actually matter.

[@patrickjhallinan]

Recent CDC data suggests that 1 in 4 adolescents and 1 in 4 young adults are prediabetic.

[@tooge47]

if the staff at Reason is an example of the REST of the Libertarian group, DEAL ME OUT

[@Justin_Beaver564]

I like it but it's not for everyone

[@tooge47]

@@Justin_Beaver564 if I ever, ever, EVER catch someone working for ME not being instantly accessible, they KNOW they are fired. At Reason, they don't give a rat's rectum if they EVER answer the ding dong telephone. How RUDE !!!

[@Justin_Beaver564]

​@@tooge47 Reason is a privately funded foundation, not a profit driven business

[@JackVz]

It's not. The roundtable is for egalitarian progressives. They're basically Trotskyites.

[@google_AI_47]

It's not. These guys egalitarian progressives.

[@ShumaniTatankaOwachi]

The Illusionist

[@ChiTownOriginator]

10:57 this guy's analysis is unbelievably awful. Wtf. How high is he?

[@tooge47]

Katherine is RUDE RUDE RUDE RUDE RUDE RUDE and has NO business running Reason............Billy Binion is just as bad

[@jackjrabbit]

oooooo I can't wait to find out why

[@vikkiiam3083]

@@jackjrabbit😂😂😂

[@silverbullet1352]

Libertarians will never be a party if three whiny women are in charge of recruiting; and its a bad imitation of The View (the show) for a party that is somewhat appealing. Nick is a wizard and I love the way he thinks---real intellect.

[@brewer921]

Katherine is hard to watch and listen to and she is criticizing excellent speakers like the Obamas and Oprah.

[@vikkiiam3083]

😂😂😂