Wait for the 2024 Ninja 500? Or Go For The ZX-4RR: Kawasaki Raises the Bar! (ZX-4RR Anniversary Ed.)

[@Shiver767]

Owned a Ninja 400 and enjoyed the bike very much. Then I bought the zx4rr and after riding it I can say they are not even in the same ball park as far as rider experience. The zx4rr is glued to the pavement with that suspension and the bike turns in to corners effortlessly. The inline 4cyl engine is absolutely beautiful and the on off throttle is perfect. I love everything about the bike. I just sent ECU out to be flashed and I’m sure I’ll love this machine even more when I get it back. The thing I enjoy the most about the bike is when you want to ride relaxed it does it so well and when you wanna rip and rev the bike out it’s an absolute blast. It’s like having 2 bikes in 1. It really is an awesome motorcycle.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for sharing your experiences! I agree. You're describing the differences between a sport bike and a super sport bike. There's definitely a difference!

[@robertcurtis3807]

New rider here. Should I get the ZX4R not the RR?

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@robertcurtis3807 they're going to be very similar. Do you want a quickshifter as standard equipment? Do you know what to look for when adjusting your suspension? Those are things that you'll miss at first, but may appreciate in the future. I'm going to be posting a new rider video soon. Stay tuned. I think it may help.

[@jamespreacherbeck4306]

Curious who you sent your ECU to? I went with Vcyclenut and am very happy. He sent perfect instructions on initial start and clearing engine codes. For my ZX6R, 2wheeldynoworks will be doing.

[@Aberamentho2010]

The price isnt in the same ball park either.

[@felipe-nt-d]

That Anniversary Edition has such pretty graphics and colors, wow.

[@PeterLoweOne]

It looks great in person! Thanks for watching!

[@enyelator1239]

I actually own the zx4rr 40th anniversary. I bought it December and already have 1300 miles on it. I would never even consider a ninja 500 over it. I did not even consider the zx6r over it. I wanted the zx4rr since I heard about it in 2022. I just didn’t want the krt colors. But when the 40th anniversary colors came out and I walked into my local dealer and saw it there early last December, I sold my 2015 Versys 650 ( with 93,000 miles on it) and bought it. I wanted dependable nostalgia with terrific sound. If I want speed, I also own a fully flashed 2021 Zx14r (my dream bike) in the garage. I will be flashing the zx4rr and taking to the track sometimes later this year.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[@SIRA063]

would you recommend it a as a city bike/street bike not going far and mostly for local use?

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@SIRA063 I would.

[@enyelator1239]

@@SIRA063 that bike is incredible for city’s driving. I actually took the zx4rr this Saturday to meet friends in north Miami Beach. I normally use my big bike (zx14r) in the weekends, but since we were riding in the city, I took the zx4rr this time. That bike fits easily through traffic.

[@ChrisFrierson-p1v]

@@enyelator1239

[@Coachmeister]

Watching you helped me make my decision for getting a 2023 ninja 650. I keep coming back because I just enjoy your content. Keep up the great work

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks so much for your support! It really means a lot!

[@katanamast279]

@@PeterLoweOne I am going to buy my first bike this summer. I really am torn between the CF Moto 450SS and the Ninja 500. From what I have seen the new 500 is adding more features that the CF Moto has like the digital display. I would love you to do the comparison once the 500 is released. Thanks!

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@katanamast279 I'm hoping to gain access to CF Moto bikes this year. I'll definitely have coverage of the Ninja. Stay tuned!

[@RammaJamma3]

400rr is best bike of all them it has in/line 4cyl like 1000cc bikes so it sounds great instead of junk like a 400,500,650 they all have 2cyl engines. 400rr has 77hp.

[@Jtoor001]

Mine just arrived at dealership ... this looks even better in person ... thanks for reviewing

[@PeterLoweOne]

You're going to love it!

[@jamespreacherbeck4306]

Great review. Your initial review of ZX4RR vs ZX4R helped my decision to buy the RR all the way back in May of last year. Thank you! Matter of fact, just did my first vid ever on what modifications I have done... so far. Again, thank you for great reviews.

[@Team_Nacho_Moto]

Pick mine up next week. There are fast bikes, and there are fast riders. This is a perfect corner carver, makes more HP than the R7, and is the perfect track bike. Mine will allow me to get back into track days, and hopefully into competition later on. Not to mention, this is an instant classic and will hold its value for years to come. Thankful that Kawaski revived this class of bike- my wife is thankful that I won't be going ludicrous speed in 2nd gear as I did in the past with my ZX6R. Great video, as always. Those who get it, get it.

[@SkankHunt42O]

Well?

[@Team_Nacho_Moto]

@SkankHunt42O it's been exceptional! Just tuned it, and the Q5S' have been extremely sticky on the track. With a little work (and setting sag for my weight) the 4RR has been a blast.

[@AAKEngine]

you don't know how much I want this anniversary edition but sadly in our country only the Zx4R is available and that too only in black colour not even the KRT RR variant. I would love to ride this beautiful bike, love the paint job and the legacy it carries.

[@Jaatsoldier]

At least we are getting the full powered engine

[@AAKEngine]

@@Jaatsoldier I am happy for that bur paying this much and not getting a kawi in green 😭

[@tommartz1909]

Hi Peter, i tried to get a ninja 400 this year 2024. However the ninja 400 has been kept at the 2023 model and are not shipping anymore evidently to the US. They are bumping us to the ninja 500. Yes, I would like for you to do a review of it because i ended up going with the 500. I should receive it in March. Thanks

[@andyboulais8754]

I have the ninja 400, with full exhaust and tune. Didn’t make sense for me to go to the 500 since the horsepower change is tiny. Just more tech. So I’m moving to the zx4rr 40th anniversary edition. Got a deposit on one and waiting till it comes in. The 500 seems nice, but not if you’re coming from a 400.

[@motionsick4973]

Fantastic in-depth technical review. Thank you!!!

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for watching!

[@ninja1970fin]

Looks great in person but can't beat the black! :)

[@SkankHunt42O]

Hot af in summer. Shows every water spot and speck of dirt. Hard pass

[@tellyawhatmate]

If u could get that green rear coil spring on the black.. ❤️

[@SkyDomeVIZE]

For the price of the 400RR I'll rather get the 636 although I wouldn't use it's full potential most of the time. I'm interested in your thoughts about the ninja 500 and 650 and long term thoughts.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I haven't seen the Ninja 500 yet, so as soon as I do, I'll have a lot more thoughts to share on it. Stay tuned!

[@WorldWideBill]

They really KILLED the color scheme. I LOVE the 40th. So tempting… want the ZX6R but $. ZX4R seems in budget 👀

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha! Those are good problems to have!

[@Krakatoa420]

My first bike in japan was a zxr400. I called over 20 dealerships before I locked in my zx4rr 40th. Im forty, the ninja is forty. If I still had my 84 zxr it would be forty. And from what I hear they are only puttimg out 40 40th anniversary editions for each model. Mine is 31... I have never bought a new bike, or one sight unseen, but I know this is my bike.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

Where is the number on them? Thanks

[@RecluseRider]

Please do a video of considering the upcoming Ninja 500 vs the Aprilia RS 457

[@PeterLoweOne]

I haven't got an Aprilia connection right now. But I'm always looking to add brands.

[@z-ro34]

I would likely go with the Zx4-RR because my Eliminator 450 would overlap too much with the Ninja 500. Gotta diversify the garage! Ideally I'd love to have an older Zx-7R but i'm not trying to mess with carbs.

[@IrnMaiden304]

ZX4RR is going to hold value longer, I don't think they'll be making a small displacement inline 4 much longer since basically everyone including Kawi has been heavily focused towards twins as for the cost / regulations are easy on them.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I agree with you about this. I don't think the ZX-4RR will even be available for all that long. They're already made in small numbers, and those who understand this bike, love it. This bike has all the makings of an instant collector bike. It should hold its value well.

[@BlackArroToons]

Nice paint with the green/blue/green rims. Ha, you got good practice that first time without the microphone. ZX4RR looks like a fun Kawasaki motorcycle. Do you believe Kawasaki is going to replace the Ninja 400 with the Ninja 500 eventually? I remember riding my Ninja 250R (now have Ninja 650), and wondering what a 500 was like back then. Thanks!

[@PeterLoweOne]

I fully expect the Ninja 400 to be done. I'm not even sure if they're still producing it. They're probably not. I used to own a Ninja 500R and it was nicely styled for the time, but this new one will be much more nimble and have better handling for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@BlackArroToons]

@@PeterLoweOne Thanks for the information! That's cool you had the classic Ninja 500 back then. Yes, it seems to be that the 500 would continue the trend towards a stronger engine that Kawasaki has been heading since they left the 250 class with the 300 in 2013. Then quickly jumped to the 400 and now the 500. Hopefully this is the cut off or else the 500 will soon be the new Ninja 650! ;)

[@Kichoman1983]

Got mine in late Jan and still haven’t insured it. I wish it warms up soon in Canada so I can get a first ride. The 40th anniversary livery did it for me, especially the green wheels! My first bike was a 2008 zx6r lime green on green. I was just never a big fan of the KRT graphics.

[@TomKokkeler]

Hi Peter, I’ve watched a lot of your reviews which helped me pick the bike I was looking for, which is the ZX4RR, much appreciated! I do have some questions though, the suspension is adjustable, but how to choose the right setting? And what should be the right adjustments in several situations? I Live in the Netherlands and we have like tons of speed bumps where I think the default settings are just fine but sometimes there are some tiny holes in the road or just going through a corner where I feel like the suspension is a little soft. How would I determine what’s right for me? And how to adjust both the front and back suspension to what is suitable for me? Appreciate it!

[@PeterLoweOne]

Great question, and one that's a little difficult for me to answer just in the KZbin comments section. I'll try to make a video in the future about suspension and adjustments. It's an art and a science. For you, to start, I would check your owners manual where they will talk about a default setting. Not every bike is delivered in the default setting as plenty of people may knowingly or unknowingly make an adjustment to it on the showroom floor or in the shop. But I will try to cover this in a future video.

[@dejuanmills77]

I am considering getting the ZXRR-Ah,(lol). I think it makes a lot more sense, in my opinion. I say this because, after researching a ton of different bikes, I’ve found that the ZX4RR is the best option. I say this because the sound is ridiculously awesome, but the 500 is still technically a 450, and kind of is the same as the CF Moto 450SS. The Ninja 650 is awesome-sauce too, but I believe the ZX4RR is the best option. Love you reviews.

[@69gringo69]

I have a 400 and I don't think the bump in performance for a 500 is enough to jump ship. 400rr sounds like a blast and I'm sure a tune would put it on another level, but for the price I'd rather get an inline 600. I was really hoping kawasaki would juice up the 650 to a 700 to compete with thr R7, Gsxr8 or the cbr650. For the money I think the 500 would be solid.

[@patrickagan1071]

Zx4 looks and sounds legit if i was deaf and just hopped off the new 500 the torque would win me all day

[@dcxplant]

4RR. I have both. Trust me.

[@robbebrecx2136]

For me yes it is worth it, in the EU these bikes have 77 hp at 14500 rpm. This seems super fun riding to be able to give full throttle and be able to have bike scream on the road seems awesome. I currently have a KTM RC 390 and what i really like is to use all the power and not instantly losing my license, the price is reasonable a inline four , a premium setup and the ridding position. (RC 390 is a aggressive bike) Really looking forward for a test-ride, i don't care that it's not a ultra high hp sports bike.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

75 14500 in Australia

[@DiscordOdvious]

Can someone please tell me when the Ninja 500 should come out? I can't find any reviews on it 😔

[@PeterLoweOne]

As soon as it's released in Canada, I'll have multiple reviews up on this channel. I expect to see them soon.

[@prawnstar9213]

Great idea for a video actually. One thing I noticed on the Kawasaki site was that if I ordered a ninja 650.. the windshield cost like $100 the cig lighter costs like $50.. but if you add these on the new 500 or the zx4rr it’s MUCH more expensive.. like by hundreds of dollars.. what is up with that?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I don't understand the pricing of a lot of these manufacturers. To be fair, I haven't checked the exact pricing that you mention at the time that I'm writing this comment, but one think Kawasaki does with some bikes, is when you add the power port (12 volt outlet) sometimes you have to add an extra relay or some other piece before you can just add that. It's possible that one bike needs both pieces while the other is pre-wired for it. I'm not sure. There's a real variance of pricing on things like windshields between various manufacturers. Accessories are definitely an area where margins are made, but I wouldn't think it's all margins. It might be supply chain costs on once piece versus another piece.

[@dilly2023]

The colors on that bike are amazing

[@PeterLoweOne]

I remember these colours, but seeing them pop on a brand new bike in the showroom... It just looks so great in person!

[@thedirtbag584]

Have yet to see a review on the new z500! I'm looking to purchase but can't find an in-person review! Please 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@PeterLoweOne]

As soon as it arrives, I'll get the video up. I'll likely do a few videos of that bike.

[@thedirtbag584]

@PeterLoweOne and boom, got yourself a new subscriber 👍🏽

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@thedirtbag584 awesome! I appreciate the support!

[@herrtomas6729]

Hi Peter. Nice to see you again in the UK

[@PeterLoweOne]

Took some time off to deal with a family member's health. I expect to be pretty regularly on here again for a while. Thanks for your support!

[@joek81981]

I have the zx4rr and its the most fun bike I've owned. It would be amazing to see what the other guys would respond with, but that probably won't happen. They won't make these for long. Whatever it is that's keeping us from the 70hp it has inside is only going to get more pronounced. That's partly why I got one. I realized this can't go on past 2026 without another stranglin', and by that point, why not just drop the model all together? This bike was a wishlist fantasy, and one day, Kawasaki said, "Aw, alright. We love your pretty smile, so we'll make this ridiculous bike." It feels, like you said, like a favor. And very impermanent.

[@joek81981]

Imagine the bwalls on Yamaha to make an R4 in response with a little cross-plane whizzer in it. If they stirred up some shit, that would be amazing for sport bike culture. Honda makes a screaming v4r,... it would raise all ships, I'm telling ya.

[@sehokim83]

I ordered ZX-6R in that color at Jim gibert. My sales man told me It’s coming in April. 🎉 I can’t wait for it either your next video with my bike.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha! Nice! Yeah sounds like the only way I'll be able to get the ZX-6R will be to film your bike. Congratulations!

[@yashrajrai002]

I have a 200 cc bike want to upgrade which one would be better zx4r or zx6r ???

[@SkankHunt42O]

Neither, you don’t need anything z or r. Just get a 400

[@_TrueDesire_]

Depends on your skill level tbh. But either 4R and keep it in rain mode for some time, Ninja 500 (with keyless feature!) for cost/performance/comfort or the Ninja 650 which you can add bits to fit your style. Any of those three will give you a huge performance increase. Insurance might also play a part in your decision? Service cost will also be slightly higher on the 4R due to more spark plugs and checking more valves etc. It depends on your financial situation, but the 4R will keep its value for sure.

[@thehumblememphian8499]

Any idea when it releases in the states?

[@PeterLoweOne]

The Ninja 500 should be soon. The ZX-4RR was released last year.

[@thehumblememphian8499]

@@PeterLoweOne Thank You I’m Waiting On The 500

[@MrReverie]

@@PeterLoweOne days weeks months? I’ve been checking my phone every morning to see if anyone has the 500. I’m thinking about getting it for my first as in a couple months.

[@thehumblememphian8499]

@@MrReverie Same Here I Just Trying To Keep A Eye On My Local Dealers

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@MrReverie Jim Gilbert's Powersports is the largest volume Kawasaki dealer in Canada. I expect that reputation means that they'll be among the first dealers in North America to receive it. I don't know if the U.S. is on a different schedule than Canada, but I know that as soon as Jim Gilbert's has word that the Ninja 500 is actually incoming, they'll let me know and I'll get it on video as soon as possible. Nobody has a date yet, but if you subscribe to this channel, I'll cover it as soon as it shows up and that should give you an idea of when we can expect it to hit other markets.

[@jayy24195]

Could you show us the red/black version of the 500?? Or 650

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'll do my best to get every trim and colour on camera this season.

[@brianthompson324]

The price difference is just too much for me. I’ll go 500.

[@SuperYoda7]

this all day every day of the week

[@Aberamentho2010]

There's such a huge difference in price of the 4rr. It's almost double the cost.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yeah. These aren't the same price at all, but for some people they serve a similar purpose. Not everyone who buys a Ninja 500 buys one because they're a less expensive motorcycle. A lot of people buy that bike (or the Ninja 400) for the great performance in a lightweight motorcycle.

[@millerhendrix6311]

Love this bike, what would be the real one up from here is to see a company bring back a 2 stroke. Regulations be damned it would sell

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha. Except regulations can't be damned and therefore it wouldn't be allowed to sell. 🤓👍

[@Qrides]

Just got a ninja 500 it’s a blast!

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm reviewing a Z500 tomorrow!

[@DavidBaird-ju8qt]

I had gsxr600 just traded it in today to get the zx4 rr

[@dwightlewis3876]

I remember being in Germany and the 1991 zx400rr was a scalpel.....lol very similar

[@tomlabarbara6277]

Love your passion for motorcycles, nice review

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for watching!

[@jimrellis]

How tall are you? I definatly wanat the zx4rr for that inline 4 sound! No question. What is in story on the 2025 zx-4rr?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Sorry. I must have forgotten to mention that in this video. I'm about 6 feet tall.

[@Iamwhatiam76]

The ZX4RR is great for open roads/long rides while the Ninja500 is good for city ridings

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yeah, but I would argue they're both good at the opposite of what you mention too.

[@darellrobinson5340]

pete show me the 25 zx4rr and the difference between the 24 model

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

I've seen the 25 zx6r but I know nothing about zx4rr. I have a 40th. I don't think there's going to be any difference apart from the colours. Take what I said with a grain of salt as not 100%

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

Google it.

[@darellrobinson5340]

@@jamesgeorgevellavella1961 correct, nothings changed but the paint

[@chrisshealy2123]

Nice vid, but a little leaned towards the RR. I understand that, but...They're both great bikes. For me, it's very simple: If you want practial, street, light, and simple fun, go N500. If you want racy, cool, hi-tech, ooh-aah, go RR. The N500 won out easily for me, w/MUCH lower cost, much less weight, notably more comfortable riding position, easier ownership experience (Maintenance, gas mileage, cost, comfort, et al.). If I were going tracking, turn it all around. As always, pick the right tool for the job...And I know many will want the RR for the street. Cool. It's higher end, has that I-4 wail, more top-end power, and all that extra. No arguent from me. Get what floats your boat. It's all good. Both are great bikes.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

I ended up buying both. When the 500 showed up Mrs claimed it. Literally booked her licence in days. Problem is I'm not allowed to ride on my current licence for zx6r or zx4rr yet

[@DanielVazquez]

Would a Ninja 500 be a better 1st bike?

[@johndefalque5061]

It is a good looking bike-I've not ridden Kawasaki and am curious. I also fear that this bike is way too complicated for me to do maintenance on. Engine not very accessible.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I think it depends on the maintenance that you want to do. Basic maintenance isn't going to be too difficult, and if it's the right bike, enjoy it and have more major work done at the dealers. Modern Kawasaki's don't require all that much maintenance compared to older bikes.

[@nickmelin248]

i think the zx4rr and the ninja 500 could have been so much better the detune from factory on the zx4rr is criminal

[@johndefalque5061]

The riding school nearby gets everyone on Suzuki 600s. Me, I want a 125, not overpowerd for the city or under powered for the country and 125 is the snd license and insurance class.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

125 2stroke would be a blast. You sound like you'd love crf300la (I loved mine alongside the Benelli 125/135cc

[@langhamp8912]

Having grown up in SE Asia in the 80's to 90's, I got to ride most of the 250 2-stroke and 400 inline fours 4-strokes from that era. I did eventually own 2 Suzuki GSF400's which dominated club racing, which was kinda odd since it was steel framed with not the best components. I do think the GSF400 was the best of the bunch for street riding which, of course, is why I bought two of them. So how were the older 400's like to ride and own? They were very expensive to maintain (I think all of them had valve adjustments of between 3000 to 6000 miles). And they ate their front tires like no other bike. With a 400cc inline four, it's all cornering speed but the geometry on them is off with the engine so far forward. With bigger bikes, you have that instant torque that allows you to throw the bike on its rear tire right after full lean, and you could be pretty sloppy at to which RPM you were at but 400cc bikes were just terrible at that. You'd end up riding through the most of the turn on the front tire as you had a lot of throttle but either not enough rpms or too much rpms. And that's the way you see riders riding the new ZX4RR! So despite the electronics which I would hope you could whack the throttle open, you can see these ZX's are just really hard bikes to ride on the track and on the street. Eventually I gave up and bought 600's, 750's, and 1000cc bikes that were a lot easier to ride and maintain. Ultimately, 400cc inline fours weren't very good street bikes and they weren't very good race bikes. Maybe the Japanese manufacturers built them as a way to see if they could bring insane valve train technology to production but ultimately it was just cheaper to build big displacement motorcycles that were about the same weight as those 400cc bikes.

[@robcruzado8596]

I'll take the 500 for my first bike

[@marcuslinton310]

As much as I like Kawi and such and the 4R is a great all around 4 cyl. bike, the CBR 650R isn't that much more expensive, maybe $500 more and you get a 650 4cyl. instead of a 400. Hard to consider the 4R at this point.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I think the people that buy this bike see something that maybe you're not seeing. I agree the Honda is a great bike, but this is unique and pretty great on it's own, and Kawasaki isn't having any trouble selling every one of these that they make.

[@MikeVenom-mini]

Can anyone here attest to the fact that the new ninja 500 sounds like a 4 stroke dirt bike or am I mistaken from the audio??

[@Si_in_Finland]

Great video !!! how tall are you ?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Sorry. I must have forgotten to mention that in this video. I'm about 6 feet tall.

[@Si_in_Finland]

@@PeterLoweOne thanks very much that really helps !

[@ztanford]

When is going to arrive?

[@ztanford]

Ninja 500

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@ztanford All I've been told is "soon"

[@paulstanley3265]

Nice review I need those wheels for my Vulcan s.😅

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha🤣

[@romakorshunov2880]

For me the Ninja 500 is the better choice because it is more versatile and of course price matters.

[@PeterLoweOne]

That's going to be the logical choice for most people. Kawasaki knows this, that's why they're producing far more Ninja 500's than ZX-4RR's.

[@judge831]

Now we just need a 500cc 3 cylinder.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Do we though? 🙂

[@SuperFory]

How tall Are you??

[@PeterLoweOne]

About 6 feet tall.

[@mattm2339]

I like the video, just not sure why you constantly compared it to a "40 year old bike" throughout. It was irrelevant, all I wanted to know was this bike vs. Ninja 500.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I have Ninja 500 videos out now. When this first was filmed, I believe we were still waiting to see the Ninja 400

[@booricana9057]

cant find an H2😢

[@PeterLoweOne]

They're tough to find, for sure!

[@chrisd1828]

ZX4RR is a beautiful bike that makes superbike sounds but it is death by insurance cost. Compared to a Ninja 650, the 650 cost less, has way more usable power, and you pay 1/3 to 1/4 the price for insurance.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Insurance costs can vary by region, but yes, sometimes even lower powered bikes are on a restricted list that can make them cost more than similarly performing bikes. I did have someone reach out to me and say that in their region, this was the one superbike that was NOT on the restricted list, and he was happy to share that with me. So it can depend on the region.

[@chrisd1828]

@@PeterLoweOne I'm in Upstate New York.

[@trailguy]

I heard the 4 has a shorter life than the 2 and that was before. I think this new 2 will last even longer, yes?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm not sure what you mean by life? How long it will be produced?

[@russellsylve805]

This might sound a little crazy but the ZX4rr should be the new beginner bike! You can even find them for way cheaper now, got mine for $8 thousand out the door. Forget them bullshit 2 cylinders bikes, unless that’s what you like or the most you can afford.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

That's an awesome score bro. Well done. My zx4rr cost me $15000 (40th anniversary) and the zx6r $18000 (40th anniversary) being honest all my bikes are 40th (X2 more 500 but wife took one) 90's teen issues

[@pieterjacobs7943]

How would you describe the seat position between them both? Zx4rr less agressive? Or almost the same?

[@russellsylve805]

@@pieterjacobs7943 It feels like the seating position of the ninja 400… easily the most comfortable super sport to ride

[@pieterjacobs7943]

​@@russellsylve805many thanks for your reply, good to know 👌 got a testride next Saterday, looking forward to it.

[@markanthonypetra]

Ninja 500

[@thomfrost2594]

Kind of unusual that you don't test ride the vehicles! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@PeterLoweOne]

There are thousands of channels that do, and I'll be doing that too, but not every bike can be test ridden. This is a perfect example. Not only was this filmed in the middle of the winter in Canada, but this is the only bike of its kind in all of eastern Canada. If I didn't review it like this, no one would be able to review it. You can't put mileage on such a rare bike. The future owner of this bike deserves to be the only one to twist the throttle on such a special bike.

[@johndefalque5061]

I think it's too much bike for me to start on. I had a Honda 200XL ditbike, went to a 360 Twin and then got a 750 Yamaha Maxima, but I haven't been on a bike for 30 yrs.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yeah, when in doubt, don't be afraid to start on something a little smaller and more manageable for you.

[@MrBolioclyde]

zx7r or this for the track ????

[@mociczyczki]

🤷🏻‍♂️what you expect? both very stable bike zx7r way more powerfully if full power 122 hp lower rpm but much heavier like 40 kg os 230-235 vs 190 kg but still waaay beter power to weight ratio 👉🏻380 vs 280 hp/ton +/- with 80 kg rider on each and full tank so on straight full power healthy zx7r smoked zx4 rr 100-200 8 vs 15 sec 100-160 5,5 vs 3,5 sec you be unable to hang on behinde zx7r on straight on zx4 r vmax 255 vs 225 km/h+/- gps 👌🏻 however in corner zx4 rr be slightly faster thanks push less psi on tire cos tire size is the same 120-180 /190 +/- on avg 4 km track zx7r on the same tire be 2-3 sec faster on lap most likely so ewhere around there 👌🏻 on faster track more sec 👌🏻😉 on slower track with more slower corners gap be smaller 👌🏻 thers no universal answer onsuch question thers noregulation you dont ask which is faster so thers only ypur preferention so take this bike which you like more simple 🤷🏻‍♂️👌🏻 stupyt question 👌🏻🫣 🤷🏻‍♂️ ☕️

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

Never heard of zx7. I have a zx6r

[@Viking7771]

The front suspension is not that good for the cost! It should come with fully adjustable front forks for the price and some better rubber! Before I personally would pay that!!

[@PeterLoweOne]

I always think people should ride the bike before they complain about suspension. Adjustability would be nice, but this bike sells very well to people who aren't asking for that and often wouldn't even know how to effectively adjust the suspension. There will be aftermarket solutions for those who want to take this bike to the next level, and when you compare the MSRP of this bike to the competition, it's still a very good value.

[@brianread259]

Hand down the 400rr

[@RammaJamma3]

Ninja 500 is a 400 with a little I mean a little longer stroke. So 500 has same horsepower as 400 same motor expect for a longer stroke. So 500 had a couple ftlbs torque more than 400 that’s it. 400RR has a in-line 4cylinder!!! Even 650’s don’t have that they have parallel 2cylinder engines. So 400rr sounds awsome so 400 and 500 has 50hp or 40 something can’t member 400rr had 77hp!!!!

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm told that there is a slight horsepower boost on the 500. I'll have to see if that's the case when the bikes arrive. Also, that 77 horsepower number isn't available to North Americans from the factory. The bike will have to be modified to reach that number here. I discuss this in my video. That's important context for others to know, that's why I am mentioning it in this response to your comment.

[@Viking7771]

Hardly anyone will keep the rear fender!

[@WorldWideBill]

I’ve never seen hazards on a bike either

[@DBUCKS1988]

I would rather have the ninja 400 over the ninja 500, the ninja 400 was lighter and not even 2HP less. Plus the ninja 500 is really a 451cc. Where I live insurance is based off CC, anything with 401cc-750cc costs about literally double than 50cc-400cc. The 50-400 costs $47-$55, the 401-750 is $110-$120. The ZX4 has as much HP after the tune as the new GSXS8, obviously the ZX has a lot less torque, but that GSXS8 is now 2 brackets up since it's over the 750cc range. That third bracket of insurance is around $200 a month. I guess if you love the idea of paying way more money for zero gains I guess the 500 is appealing.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Where do you live? Around here engine CC plays a re in insurance rates, but it's much more nuanced than what you're describing.

[@DBUCKS1988]

@@PeterLoweOne where are you at?

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@DBUCKS1988 New Brunswick, Canada

[@robertcurtis3807]

399cc?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yes.

[@stiliyanivanov3076]

Emissions don't work like that.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I can tell you with certainty that emissions regulations for 4 cylinder motorcycle engines are an increasingly more difficult to meet, especially for high revving motorcycle engines, so if that's what you're referring to, I'm confident in what I talked about in this video.

[@stiliyanivanov3076]

@@PeterLoweOne please, I'm not telling that you are wrong. Just that the picture is bigger.

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@stiliyanivanov3076 Of course. But this video isn't about emissions, which is why I didn't go into great detail.

[@stiliyanivanov3076]

@@PeterLoweOne I love Kawasaki's

[@AaronDuhsaka]

isn't it a no brainer to take the ZX4RR ?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Nope. The Ninja 500 is a lot less money and may be more motorcycle than some riders will ever need. It's also more comfortable. Cheaper to insure... Lots of reasons not to need to go for the ZX-4RR.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

No brainer would be to buy them both (in my case I bought every 40th anniversary I saw from x2 500's zx4rr zx6r ALL 40th anniversary bikes. I'm living my dreams now

[@raystan5489]

Ninja 500 is better for commuting and longer drives

[@PeterLoweOne]

That would definitely be a common use for the Ninja 500. The ZX-4RR would be more suited to a track environment than the Ninja 500, but you could use either bike in both situations.

[@raystan5489]

Thanks... I'm never going on a racing track. I prefer more upright and comfort, I'm a beginner. Moving up from scooter click 160 lol. So daily commuting, I'm thinking of the 500. I guess it's personal choice.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

I'm living my dreams. I don't need to guess which is better 🎉 (In my stables there's a 500 zx4rr zx6r and another 500 all 40th anniversary ❤). I can't wait to be full licenced for the fun 2 bikes

[@mociczyczki]

on track zx4 rr on the same tire beat ninja 500 and ninja 400 on road defenitely ninja 500 at 1 place cos most torq down low and most comfy ergo second ninja 400 the same ergo the same max performance just weaker lowend and last zx4 r most sporty ergo weakest lowend in category FUN on track no how efficient bike is what was 1 category so which end race on 1 place in which zx4 r smoked ninja 400 and ninja 500 than hard to say depend on day probably can be all 3 🤷🏻‍♂️😉👌🏻☕️

[@movingtarget4784]

Yall stop calling it ninja 500 and call it the ninja 450

[@PeterLoweOne]

Kawasaki has named it the Ninja 500. I didn't come up with the name. I'm going to call it by the name the manufacturer decided to use. I drive a Z900RS SE. I'm not going to call my bike a Z950RS SE, even though it's actually a 948cc engine. Ii'm not going to call the Ninja 1000 SX the Ninja 1050 SX... We can do this all day. When I review the Ninja 500, I'll clearly state the size of the engine, but that's what Kawasaki has named the bike, take it up with Kawasaki, not with people who review the bikes and call them by their proper names.

[@williamdavis4809]

Do people really consider this a Supersport?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yes. Kawasaki labels it that on it's own website, and every component on the bike matches the description. Power isn't the only thing that makes a bike a supersport bike. I'm not saying that you have to call it a supersport, but to answer your question, yes, people do consider it a supersport. It's in an entirely different class than something like a Ninja 400/500.

[@Gregory.allo77]

Bro Its to slow. Get a zx6r for a few grand more. You wont regret it.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Bro. It's not too slow for me. The ZX-6R is definitely an option, but people who understand this bike, love it. If it doesn't make sense to you, that's cool, get the ZX-6R.

[@evlutionzllc5519]

​@@PeterLoweOne ZX4RR is a bike many riders will be able to use to it's full potential after getting used to it. The ZX6R is a bike many will be doing great to hold onto and not wreck it trying to ever get anywhere near that full potential. Confidence on the 4 will come much quicker than on the 6, on the track. Regardless, the 4 probably sounds glorious whethere it is actually going all that fast or not, lol