"Everything is in 4/4 if you stop counting like a nerd" will forever be my favourite musical joke.
@vicentehamel18 күн бұрын
It is pretty accurate tho
@aibrainlet804118 күн бұрын
@@vicentehamel its not accurate at all ... Pulse is time and time is relative.. note groupings relate space to time... You can count anything in anything, if you speed up or slow down by the precise amount. Your impulse to count fours is trained, really your brain just knows 1 beat of the pulse at a time.
@phillipanselmo854018 күн бұрын
you are counting it like a nerd@@aibrainlet8041
@dooshnukem3218 күн бұрын
@@aibrainlet8041please refer to the latter half of OP's statement 🤓
@aibrainlet804118 күн бұрын
@@dooshnukem32 I was replying to the other reply... People are by and large taking it a face value, Adam himself is kind of implying this un-ironically
@LegalEagle16 күн бұрын
Shawn is the best value in drumming; no one plays more hits per beat.
@jj870316 күн бұрын
legal eagle!!!
@singlereedenjoyer14 күн бұрын
I did not expect to see a legal eagle comment on this channel
@sorayaimperial13 күн бұрын
The crossover I didn't know I needed.
@MrDrProfJMF13 күн бұрын
Would you say more hits per beat is the equivalent of higher value? 🤔
I deeply need people to understand that serious and silly are not enemies
@PauLtus_B17 күн бұрын
Like how visual experimental "high art" is actually quite close to stuff like KZbin Poop.
@Patrick-gm3fb16 күн бұрын
Just recommend Randall Munroe's "What If?"
@EthanNeal16 күн бұрын
Exactly! Yes, a 7:11 polyrythym is a bit silly, but if that's what makes sense to use, then I don't see the holdup. Hell, David Bruce wrote a 4 movement string ensemble piece using The Lick entirely seriously, and it doesn't sound like a joke, it's genuinely really good
@waynekerr701314 күн бұрын
Silliness is serious business.
@literallyap0tat0-q7q14 күн бұрын
Frank Zappa has entered the chat
@Cochu18 күн бұрын
"Don't fight me on this" at the guys that made the god damn song is insane lmao
@MyNameIsNeutron18 күн бұрын
Reminds me of that time someone tweeted at Paul McCartney to tell him "Blackbird" was NOT the political song he claimed it to be
@PixelCherries18 күн бұрын
"we literally made the song, it is in 4/4" "NUH-UH >:("
@DarkSideofSynth18 күн бұрын
Perhaps it wasn't a snarky attack, but rather a plea: don't fight me on this.... or I know I'll lose. The person "simply" forgot that small magic word: please ;)
@GR2000018 күн бұрын
"Don't press me on this Sadeas"
@raptor491618 күн бұрын
Hey man the author is just as much a participant in the work as the reader authorial intentions don't matter Death of the Author etc.
@MorganHJackson18 күн бұрын
That beat at ten minutes is like when you're really tired and have a red bull. It doesn't really wake you up, you're just turbo tired now.
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
Crowder is an *amazingly* expressive drummer. That is *exactly* what that sounds like.
@witchfynder_finder14 күн бұрын
Love (hate) when I'm jsut tired faster
@dominic50818 күн бұрын
''I have a feeling that 3 is like crabs, it is the evolutionarily most optimal way to groove to hyper-tuplets'' Yeah, okay maybe my friends are right. I'm too deep in this music nerd shit.
@bartolomeothesatyr18 күн бұрын
Nah, yer friends ain't deep enough.
@a_person-qy9ju18 күн бұрын
"3 is like crabs. Makes you wonder why you're always itchy". That's where I initially thought Adam was going with the crab talk. Oh well.
@JohannesWiberg18 күн бұрын
Both those are just primed for massive missunderstanding as well - the crab thing is about similar crustaceans, not about "all animals" as some people took it. Same here, I'm sure some people will soon shout "Adam Neely said every rhythm is 3/4 so there!"
@IDTT13718 күн бұрын
They're just not cool enough to understand
@leoinstatenisland18 күн бұрын
Or perhaps they’re just fans of 3 bean salad podcast
@AFN275018 күн бұрын
In my view, there are four real ways to look at the time signature of any tune: 1) how the person writing it was feeling it 2) how the audience feels it 3) how it’s easiest to put in sheet music for a new performer 4) writing it weirdly for fun (you can write anything in 3/11 if you try hard enough) Aside from #4, none of them are wrong, just different use cases
@wilh3lmmusic17 күн бұрын
All of them are wrong except maybe 3. Time signature and meter are two different things, and the time signature is specifically a *notational* element. The time signature is how it is written, not how it feels. For example, the Passacaglia from Peter Grimes by Benjamin Britten is in a *meter* of 11, as the repeating bassline is 11 beats long, but the *time signature* is 4/4 as that's what it's notated in, with each repetition (each variation) being 2¾ bars long.
@pedrova805817 күн бұрын
"write" language (any kind) is a representational tool, isn't "the thing itself". You can be very nerdy and get into hermeneutics (interpretation of language) isues and so on, but there is no such thing as an "incorrect" way of representing something in a language (you can claim more or less adequate ways, but music is not writing itself).
@M0odez17 күн бұрын
@@wilh3lmmusic I feel like this misses the point in that there is no " *the* time signature" of any given piece; anything can be independently written by anyone using a different time signature for one of the four purposes. Your example sounds like a case of the writer doing number 4); the time signature of 4/4 basically having no relation to how the writer, audience, or performer would feel it. It sounds like if someone else rewrote the music using a time signature with a numerator of 11, they would likely achieve 1), 2), and/or 3) and as the comment suggested, this would have been much more useful. I'd say just because the idea of meter and time signature can be two different things, doesn't mean it's somehow less correct to not choose a time signature with a clear relationship to the meter.
@pepijnstreng464316 күн бұрын
@@M0odezNah, there are many good reasons to write something with a pattern of 11 beats in 4/4. Especially if it's for an orchestra, because 11/4 becomes almost impossible to conduct (try to come up with 11 different ways to swing your arm). And you don't have to say "on the 9th beat of this bar..." which would have musicians searching in their score for a long time. It's also easier to keep track of where you are. And experienced classical musicians don't really need to see the 11/4 time signature to know how to phrase the melody.
@M0odez16 күн бұрын
@@pepijnstreng4643 That's a great point; I suppose that's another reason quite similar to number 3) and another good example of purpose behind a time signature choice. I still think it stands that if someone chooses to rewrite in 11 to communicate the feeling, that's not more or less correct than choosing 4/4 for the orchestra setting. It could be logical for a solo arrangement of an orchestral piece that was originally written in 4/4 for the reasons you suggested.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t18 күн бұрын
"It's the microplastics of time signatures" so you're telling me 4/4 is stored in the balls?
@CloudObsolete18 күн бұрын
The pocket, if you will.
@InventorZahran18 күн бұрын
I dunno... It sure is a simpler rhythm than CBAT!
@madjazzer427218 күн бұрын
Whatever moves the lower body
@UndarZ18 күн бұрын
@@CloudObsolete Got it in the bag.
@penttikoivuniemi214618 күн бұрын
4/4 is stored in the balls and 3/4 is the crab of music. Amazing. Enlightening even.
@rachelfey18 күн бұрын
Adam, 5 or 6 years ago your channel inspired me more than anything else to chase music professionally. I met someone years later that pushed me to really challenge myself. I'm making a living in entertainment now. You've never been just a meme guy to me. You've been a genuinely inspiring person. Hope to catch y'all in Atlanta next go 'round. Thank you, for more than you can ever know.
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
@MrCharliebassman18 күн бұрын
that 7/11 challenge was the sleeping agent to start liking sungazer years later 😂❤
@soundninja9918 күн бұрын
It's like a gateway drug. Now years later i'm heading to a sungazer concert in a few months
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
@@soundninja99 You are in for a -treat-. They ROCK ASS live. (Seriously. If Adam calls out that they are about to play a song called "Anthem" START RECORDING.
@Strimmel190117 күн бұрын
@@soundninja99
@DJBuglip18 күн бұрын
Your drummer is a friggin beast, dude. What a sense of time and feel.
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
SEE HIM LIVE!!!! Sungazer's live take on "Drunk" is amazing! Crowder takes his drumset on a *walk*, and tells the story of a night spent with too much to drink in a way that is more expressive then anything i've ever heard a drum kit do before.
@DJBuglip17 күн бұрын
@@LordChaosWing that sounds amazing
@aml748112 күн бұрын
There's a video somewhere on YT of him explaining his techniques and he's all "I can play individual beat patterns with each hand. No biggie." as if anybody can do it. Dude's brilliant.
@CheddarKungPao18 күн бұрын
It's been 6 years since I offhandedly said "Everything is in 4/4 if you don't count it like a nerd." to you in Thomann's kitchen. I'm glad it's still funny, and that Sungazer is so awesome.
@VanVlearMusic18 күн бұрын
Legend
@Nate-bd8fg18 күн бұрын
Dude, like EVERYONE quotes that all the time, that's crazy
@vigilantcosmicpenguin872117 күн бұрын
Maybe one day that quote will end up in an academic paper like the 7/11 trend did.
@cptnoremac16 күн бұрын
Mkay
@ricky_the_b17 күн бұрын
3:16 "the micro plastics of time signatures" is one of my favorite euphemisms for something that is so inescapably ubiquitous as 4/4
@crisoliveira264418 күн бұрын
I'm gonna write a song called Aphelion, based on the groundbreaking conception of a 4/4 time signature, with four evenly divided beats each bar.
@NestorKYAT16 күн бұрын
I actually wrote a tune called Periapsis, but it was based on a comet reaching it's Perihelion and max velocity around the sun. I wanted to write an album including "Aphelion" or "Apoapsis" for the whole orbit, but I only wrote two tunes :(
@air9music14 күн бұрын
I'm writing Syzygy, it's in 1/1 with 1 neatly undivided whole note per bar.
@crim-jim681413 күн бұрын
Lol.
@klaxoncow18 күн бұрын
All music is in 1/1. It's just that the BPM can differ wildly, and it's easier to remember things in groups of 3 or 4.
@tannermatcheus628218 күн бұрын
Took the words out of my mouth
@masterchain333515 күн бұрын
Not *all* music has a tactus.
@GAHAHAHH14 күн бұрын
That's just how I hear music; time signatures don't matter to me, even with someone literally counting out the measures I just don't hear it as being anything significant, especially when they start getting into "off beat" stuff. Then you have some people trying to argue that 1/1 physically can't exist. To me I only ever hear it as one note of various lengths pitch and volume.
@xyzyzx125313 күн бұрын
@@GAHAHAHHhonestly this is a mix and mastering engineers way of perceiving music and is probably closest to how you get a waveform To sound good, make that one sound, sound good lol
@matthewbertrand413918 күн бұрын
imagine walking up to Adam god damned Neely and telling him you know more about music than him, let alone music that he composed. can i have some of that confidence?
@aibrainlet804118 күн бұрын
It's free
@mrharvest18 күн бұрын
"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure, while the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell
@aibrainlet804118 күн бұрын
@@mrharvest you can question anything or anyone. A guy who makes KZbin videos is just a guy. Why should his ideas be so holy? This is what limits all thinking in general.
@latheofheaven101718 күн бұрын
Being so confident in your wrongness is probably not a great idea.
@aibrainlet804118 күн бұрын
@@latheofheaven1017 it's just easier for most people to wait for a the metaphors others have brought forward than forge their own conclusions. In this particular case, I would argue neither is right, there is a fundamental misconception about time and space Adam and the redditors have. They are both adding complexity for ... reasons. If your curious about that, go read my other comment on this video. The point is you shouldn't just take others at face value if your perception leads you to more questions. Asserting what you believe is often the first step to finding a more objective truth.
@thebrisketbrothers81284 күн бұрын
Its so cool you brought this up because as a drummer my favorite thing to do is come up with a synth loop and add delay to it so it creates a bunch of weird accents and then drum into different feelings within the loop. Its an absolute BLAST just feeling the strangest rhythms and pushing and pulling out of the framework of the loop. Just dropping and picking up the rythms. Making all the accidents seem as intentional as possible. Its amazing ❤❤❤
@theavocadoguitarist.182318 күн бұрын
Part IV made me realize that Adam Neely literally starts with the music memes, and then they become *refined* ideas backed by musical pedagogy and cool songs.
@user-er5mg6zj4v18 күн бұрын
feels like a metaphor for how the channel has evolved since 2018
@drumjjj77718 күн бұрын
Partially sarcastically, totally sincerely:how did you think it worked?
@kennhern18 күн бұрын
Repetition legitimizes
@JoshLeRose18 күн бұрын
20:19 "Um actually" moment incoming! It is totally possible to write this passage without the whole 7:11 polyrhythm thing. It's a bit odd at first glance, but what you can do is change the meter to 7/16, and then use the metric modulation of "whole rest = whole rest". This would imply that the length of the measure is the same, but now it's subdivided differently. You could also use "Whole note = Whole note".
@jaredlancaster413718 күн бұрын
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. It's the same thing, but without unnecessarily barfing a 7:11 above every measure, and actually kinda comprehensible if we still care about that
@chrishealy1679Күн бұрын
I came down here looking for this comment, it's exactly what I thought of, and it's not exactly rare either, it happens all the time when composers switch from 6/8 to 2/4
@marianabeatriz535118 күн бұрын
Why is nobody talking about the amazing LEGO sets Adam owns
@shateq18 күн бұрын
it's all on Adam Neely Lego channel, didn't you know really?
@tiltil944218 күн бұрын
@@shateq Nice opportunity for a RickRoll®
@tayniloalves708918 күн бұрын
@@tiltil9442 Even your coment fool me for a nano second, imagine if it had a link...
@seanrichards956917 күн бұрын
LOLZ
@vigilantcosmicpenguin872117 күн бұрын
It's a LEGO Creator Modular Building set, #10255, Assembly Square, from 2017. Just for the record.
@caseym838515 күн бұрын
I’m glad you’re addressing music cognition. So many people get lost in the weeds of complicated seeming ideas that just don’t sound interesting. As a composer, I almost always start with the desire to create a new cognitive effect and work backwards from there to develop compositional techniques to achieve it. Most people seem to go the other way around.
@lazyjake102418 күн бұрын
New sungazer means new adam neely video breaking it down
@UndarZ18 күн бұрын
🕺
@foggl18 күн бұрын
I could imagine that the 3/4 crab phenomenon comes from the idea that, if it is not 4/4, it must be 3/4 because that's the next most well known time signature.
@GAJake18 күн бұрын
We had a drumline warmup in highschool like the martian mambo called "7/8" it basically moved around the 2-2-3 pattern each phrase so 2-2-3, 2-3-2, 3-2-2 etc. We had a variation where all drums played the pattern in the same order, but we had a "big-split" version where the snares, quads, and bases would start at a different phrase. Like playing "in a round"
@Blinkerd00d18 күн бұрын
Yup, we did that one too. Lol the first part, I mean. I will tap that out still today, when I'm trying to concentrate on something.
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
The Martian Mambo is *directly* referenced in this vid.
@GAJake18 күн бұрын
@@LordChaosWing I know, that’s why I mentioned it
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
@@GAJake Aaaaah. Apologies. I misread your post.
@GAJake18 күн бұрын
@@LordChaosWing its ok, sometimes many people comment before watching a video
@Stoneeeeemo17 күн бұрын
0:55 ... civilians?
@Bbinkee17 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the civil folk
@tubaszuba17 күн бұрын
Yes 🙂
@the.difficulttimes16 күн бұрын
You heard him. 😂
@voqz666715 күн бұрын
The jazz troops at it again
@MrDrProfJMF13 күн бұрын
What he means is "muggles"
@TanguyBlanchard18 күн бұрын
Always has been
@peelslowly2818 күн бұрын
Was looking for this
@TachyBunker18 күн бұрын
Yooo salut cest Côme 😂
@thereminundergrad16 күн бұрын
Holy smokes, I work at Scientific American, some of my colleagues are gunna think it's cool that you used that screengrab of the "Why Do Animals Keep Evolving into Crabs" article!
@Ruija2718 күн бұрын
That's basically Meshuggah as a band, isn't it. 4/4 underneath it all
@BigDaddyWes18 күн бұрын
Gotta have a steady pulse or it's tough to actually lock in and groove with.
@hecksnek615818 күн бұрын
The stuff that isn't pseudo random anyways (I, Parts of Catch 33)
@matildagreene18 күн бұрын
Yep, they play around with it a lot so it's hard to tell sometimes, but it all has a base of 4
@fuglsnef18 күн бұрын
They use polymeter a lot. Check out Yogev Gabay for some good analysis of the rhythm in their songs.
@Default7833418 күн бұрын
Yep, it's interesting how quickly the drum reactors all catch on to the Bleed drumcam, "Oh yeah, he's doing hertas on the kicks, snare hits on the one."
@ambiention17 күн бұрын
Came for for the geeky theory memes, stayed for Sungazer. I’ve listen to Perihelion A LOT over the last few years. Hyped for the new album!
@paxson200018 күн бұрын
I remember discovering a Frank Zappa piece called “13” where at the beginning he explains how to count the 13 in subdivisions of 1-2 1-2-3 1-2-3-4 (the last section counted half as fast) and it blew my mind and i’ve used that method to help discern weirder time signatures over the years. Great video Adam!
The fact that Gentle Giant's "So Sincere" is in straight 4/4 is one of the most amazing facts of all modern music...
@theonden504118 күн бұрын
Writing something in 11/16 instead of writing out the subdivisions in 4/4 seems like a logical continuation of writing 12/8 instead of 4/4 with a lot of triplets.
@HugoArgentina15 күн бұрын
Two things come to mind: 1. Charlie Chaplin's observation: "We think too much and feel too little." 2. Iain McGilchrist's hypothesis that we have created a culture that wires us to lean heavily into the hyper-analytical, decontextualized, rigid, and categorization-obsessed brain hemisphere.
@wheatthicks13 күн бұрын
You might be overthinking this.
@bazzfromthebackground369611 күн бұрын
@@wheatthicksyou might be underthinking this.
@wheatthicks11 күн бұрын
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 return to the background
@tmbgfan123418 күн бұрын
If you follow the adage "listen to the notes they are not playing," Sungazer is silence.
@bartolomeothesatyr18 күн бұрын
Each string / synth oscillator / drum head / monophonic instrument is only producing one note at a time; on an instrument built for twelve-tone equal temperament, that's eleven notes they aren't playing even when they're playing continuously, which is to say nothing of octaves and microtones.
@gorak900018 күн бұрын
pending lawsuit from John Cage...
@bartolomeothesatyr18 күн бұрын
@@gorak9000 😆
@PoseidonsAlley18 күн бұрын
I love what the journal piece said about the connection created by the challenge; it's sort of an optimistic take on something that rides the fine line of meme-ification, and I think you drive the argument home with your perspective on "quoting" the phrase. Nicely done and thanks for the tuplet knowledge drop!
@Packbat18 күн бұрын
Honestly, whatever the struggles in the club, I always find "simultaneously slow and fast" super fun when I'm sitting at home listening.
@LimeyLassen18 күн бұрын
It's tough to dance to but it's great in video games
@tru7hhimself18 күн бұрын
i'm not particularly fond of that sort of music and find it baffling how trap, which does fall into that category has become so popular. bass to fall asleep to with nervous hihats on top.
@revangerang8 күн бұрын
Maybe it's because of the thing he talked about where music depends on how fast you can move your lower body to it? But if you aren't moving your lower body, it's a different experience? 🤔
@johndavidkromkowski81612 күн бұрын
If you're old, Blue Rondo a la Turk, Kathy's Waltz, The Eleven, and Estimated Prophet covers it all.
@cablebee879018 күн бұрын
On the crab statement, grouping into sub beats of 3 will always work in this “smoothing out” method because every number is either a multiple of 3 or 1 away from a multiple of three. The higher the number gets, the smaller the difference will be when smoothed out to 3/4 (100 will be 33, 34, and 33, and their ratios would likely be unnoticeable at every possible tempo).
@bcj84218 күн бұрын
I'm thinking of what you're saying in terms of how a leap day "smooths out" our 365 day calendar. I don't know if that's a close analogy or not though lol.
@txsphere18 күн бұрын
Tuplet Chill. I have always thought it is a more descriptive name for this music. No matter how many notes are played it stills has a pulse of chill. Always good to see Adam.
@paulweyer433918 күн бұрын
When you want to fight someone on a topic, but they break out "don't fight me on this."
@MrFrigid24717 күн бұрын
What am I supposed to do with this counterpoint now!!
@isameno39165 күн бұрын
i went to look for their comment and they deleted it 😂
@twerdeffan10808 күн бұрын
The transition at 9:39 is genius. Great video, this is some of your best work!
@craigfrober31618 күн бұрын
sungazer: but we wrote the song. social media: wrong!!
@fransenmusic18 күн бұрын
Adam Neely content drops are officially an event now
@Dimitar_Tsanev18 күн бұрын
Dude, come to Bulgaria next. There are people here that would absolutely eat your music up. Also, I have the feeling that even people who don't like traditional folk music (such as myself) still have a respect and a sort of natural understanding of it. Meaning that counting in 7,9,11 or 13 comes really naturally to many of us. I know I definitely would be trying to headbang to your music if you decide to come here.
@phelanii444418 күн бұрын
I'm Bosnian and I feel the same way about our traditional music, though I never learned to dance the kolo so I am kind of a bit of a failure lol I bet people better at it than me could dance kolo to their stuff 🤣
@Dimitar_Tsanev18 күн бұрын
@@phelanii4444 Yeah, it makes sense that basically any person from the Balkans would feel a similar way. I believe Balkan music in general has a similar vibe with slight variation between smaller regions. After all it doesn't matter where something originated from when there's so much cross-pollination in this region and everything influenced and continues to influence everything else.
@AfiScruggsplaysbass11 күн бұрын
I immediately thought about Balkan music.
@geek834214 күн бұрын
I don't know how you've managed to be *both* a meme figure and a genuinely respectable musician, but you've absolutely achieved that and it's super respectable :)
@sourcerorCTS18 күн бұрын
The band Consider The Source has been playing traditional Balkan tunes with Metal instruments for 20 years. They make some great compositions based on the concepts as well! Great video and great music.
@letrhysdance592618 күн бұрын
I've got a CTS neck tattoo. Listened to them for over 15 years
@trev023918 күн бұрын
pretty dope thanks for the tip!
@rdoursenaud17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I've gone to "just check them out", clicked on the first video result "Consider The Source Live at Relix Studio" and got immediately sucked in. I just finished listening to the full 1 hour and 40 minutes concert with my eyes closed. Damn!
@sourcerorCTS17 күн бұрын
@@letrhysdance5926 I've never met you but I have Facebook stalked the hell out of you. You're the real deal. Thanks for saying hey! You rock!
@azoysheyn18 күн бұрын
The Belgrade concert was one of a kind, for sure! Thank you so much, I've never felt that much like one both with the music and with the crowd
@zachleary10818 күн бұрын
4/4 in 4k! Amazing metaphor. Kinda reminds me a little of Aphex Twin. Some of his most twisted break beats are in 4. Doesn't seem like it because the 1 is elusive but once you find it, it's as plain as day. Very cool lesson today Adam
@justin.booth.18 күн бұрын
Can you give some examples?
@lewiji18 күн бұрын
Big Aphex Twin fan but I don't think I know anything of his that isn't obviously 4/4. He uses a lot of syncopation, sure, but if you have any examples where it's not so obvious I'd love to know.
@klovexthewolf18 күн бұрын
@@lewijiyeah me neither, *but* i think i get it as in, very detailed, (4k), rhythms in 4/4. also, drill n bass. fast, quick notes, but its "bob"abble (?) :P
@Keenath15 күн бұрын
"You're all music majors so how can you be so wrong about this?" Dude if you find yourself saying this, the answer is that you have failed to understand something critical, not that all the experts are all Wrong.
@8Phoenix818 күн бұрын
When the world needed him most. “BASS!!” “REPETITION LEGITIMIZES X3” Welcome back Adam Neely.
@papa-cbootykilla695014 күн бұрын
@Taib-Atte18 күн бұрын
its in A/A because you got A note, and then you got A nother note
@LimeyLassen18 күн бұрын
1/1: Allow me to introduce myself
@MikoRalphino16 күн бұрын
time signatures aren't real
@gabedimartino14 күн бұрын
This rocks. I’m so happy to hear about musicians exploring this stuff!! I listen to “Bird on the wing” weekly! Nice stuff man.
@thomasrogers823918 күн бұрын
9:21 well repetition legitimizes
@Respectable_Username18 күн бұрын
Literally was about to say the same thing but saw your comment already posted at the top of the comments section 😂
@FarcreekMusic17 күн бұрын
Adam, just to say, this is an incredible video. Inspirational, and making these complex concepts so clear. Both you and Sungazer are doing so much for music, thanks man.
@mr.garcia923918 күн бұрын
Omg Adam Neely just dropped a new video
@odepaj15 күн бұрын
Loved getting to see you talk about this and demonstrate it live when you guys toured with Jakub and Plini!
@BensBrickDesigns18 күн бұрын
Been watching you for years and while I'm a failed musical theater kid, I'm now a LEGO adult. So...yeah, I liked seeing the bricks & minifigs. :)
@An_Amazing_Login503618 күн бұрын
The thing with sheet music existed all the way back in classical music too: most Ländler-walzes are compositionally in 12/8 (or 4/4 for non-nerds) but due to some quirks of history they end up being notated in 3/4 where a bar takes the place of what would normally be a single beat.
@pepijnstreng464316 күн бұрын
What does it mean to be "compositionally" in a time signature though?
@violet_broregarde18 күн бұрын
I liked the image with 2 cops more than the image with 3 cops because it has less cops in it
@revangerang8 күн бұрын
? That's a mechanic, a security guard, and Some Guy tm
@eleminator_pro6 күн бұрын
Bro, Adam, I HAVE SOOOO MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU! Dont worry - you are one of the best for me tho🙏🏼
@th3p0ndsh4rk18 күн бұрын
At the 11:17 section I was literally thinking, "wait that's like Martian mambo" and then he said it and I felt so smart
@Pertinacissimus18 күн бұрын
Music theory on this channel melts my brain, and its clear Adam and his band have mad skills, but I found it hard to groove to any this at all. Something about it makes my brain "itch" and it's somehow unsettling. Anyone else? Bueller?
@bartolomeothesatyr18 күн бұрын
I'm with you. I enjoy learning from Adam's videos, but I kinda perceive Sungazer's music like the auditory equivalent of ghost peppers -- too spicy to enjoy unadulterated. It needs some heavy cream to coat the tongue, metaphorically speaking.
@DeltaEntropy18 күн бұрын
I can vibe to it but I’m also a jazz guy so I’m used to the spice, so to speak. I can understand it being too rhythmically confusing if you’re used to mostly 4/4, or other common odd time signatures like 3/4 and even 7/4.
@LordChaosWing18 күн бұрын
Yeah, but the itch is nice! It's unfamiliar and surprising!
@bartolomeothesatyr18 күн бұрын
@@DeltaEntropy It's not so much that it's confusing, it just doesn't elicit an emotional response beyond an abstract appreciation for the obvious skill required to produce it. I hear it, but I don't feel it.
@jaredlancaster413718 күн бұрын
@@DeltaEntropyit's not that it's rhythmically confusing, it's that the subdivisions are too fast and too fine to be practically rhythm at all. Like he said in the video, the subdivisions tighter than 100ms cease to have any real rhythmic meaning. I'm not confused, I know exactly what's happening. What's happening is rhythmic ambiguity. Free time over 4/4.
@swagilyph18 күн бұрын
everything evolving to 3/4 was interesting to me because the older I get the more I find 3/4 or any meter felt in 3s to feel better than meters of 4
@gorak900018 күн бұрын
I'm not sure you get it in this genre of music, but I've played some "modern classical" where it's notated in 6/4, but it really feels like it's in 3/4, and I really don't at all understand why they chose to write it in 6 instead - it just makes multi-bar rests hard to count (unless you just give up and count twice as many bars in 3)
@rodrigovieirastudies15 күн бұрын
I've always been a fan of making odds sound natural and work around 4/4 overall. Your work has been inspirational for sure. I usually try not to extend the same measure the whole song.
@AviatoreGK18 күн бұрын
4:09 Meshuggah without distortion be like
@_buttonmasher17 күн бұрын
Spent yesterday learning this one for the tour. Its so awesome. Cant wait to play it live!
@HighFiveTheHorizon18 күн бұрын
If it helps you in any way with the self-respect: That 7:11 breakdown is justified simply for the fact that it absolutely slaps.
@theoptimisticmetalhead778717 күн бұрын
Oh man, I've been listening to black metal for years and one of my favorite things about it is how tremolo picking can suddenly make me feel relaxed, calm, ethereal. A million notes a minute, but the pulse is still slow.
@witchfynder_finder14 күн бұрын
Finally someone else who gets it! Atmospheric black metal and post-black metal are my go-to chillout music.
@P1OOD18 күн бұрын
68 missed calls from Tigran Hamasyan
@robertalexander9616 күн бұрын
This breaks down some of those rhythms I find so uber attractive really well. Thanks! I feel excited to explore them more.
@ebmusicman8418 күн бұрын
15-tuplets at 60bpm be like shooting speed into one arm and horse tranquilizer into the other one. 🤣🤣
@Sheerspeechcraft18 күн бұрын
I'm so glad that you talk about Balkan music. I adore the prevalence of 7/8 and 9/8 rhythmd especially
@switch1e18 күн бұрын
New Adam Neely WE EATING GOOD
@LeeroyJanky18 күн бұрын
I also think of the Knower song, "It's All Nothing Until It's Everything" It's a very simple 4/4 rhythm, but it consists of a constant triplet beat for the first 3 and 2/3rds beats of each measure. So many people mistook it for being a complex meter. It's such a simple beat, but the legato triplets are really effective
@jonsible18 күн бұрын
"I'm like a wide 4/4" is going to do gangbusters on my dating profile.
@InfinityLighthouse-kt7xj12 күн бұрын
Hearing that the 7:11 video was in 2019 made me realize how long I’ve been watching Adam Neely, dang!
@johnny14109318 күн бұрын
As a Maths teacher and musician I love that you mentioned subitising!
@PopularBeatCombo11 күн бұрын
Every thing is in 4, just get comfortable moving your one around. Love this video!!! Thanks!
@diacoal243318 күн бұрын
What you're talking about at 19:14 (shifting between different n-tuplets while keeping a constant pulse) is found in "Restless Boy" by Pain of Salvation. The end is basically a massive 4/4 groove alternating between quintuplets and septuplets. Really cool effect in my opinion
@BenRichards22716 күн бұрын
Shifting between 7- and 11-tuplets... *yawns in drum corps*
@BenRichards22716 күн бұрын
Shifting between 7- and 11-tuplets... *yawns in drum corps*
@chroniclesofsunshine44845 күн бұрын
At 16:22 that song I was groovin in a slooow 5/4 , and he’s like “it’s obviously in 3 “…… I love this !
@paxson200018 күн бұрын
“Jared Yi takes a massive… saxophone solo”
@DTPVH15 күн бұрын
7:39 That’s what I love so much about Perihelion though. It has become my standard relaxation music because I can totally zone in to it and really feel it. Not good for long car rides though.
@kjwalker131518 күн бұрын
Santa Clara Vanguard mentioned!
@malagoke18 күн бұрын
You can literally project 4/4 on the unit circle and do full fourier analysis with the tuplets. I worked this out for my self in the last couple years: You can dynamically split any base 4 type and use arithmetics and intuition to work out complex patterrns, where you switch the 1 between both hands, depending whether you come from on- or off-beat, while you try to switch inbetween everytime you do a chord change or other higher order structures like shuffles.
@malagoke18 күн бұрын
But in fact, you could extend this for every n/n beat. You might want to ask me what modulo arithmetics for other characteristics are as well.
@antiskill201218 күн бұрын
The paradox of hypertuplets killing the momentum of a set is similar to something you get with extreme high-speed dance genres like splittercore. Sure, it’s supposed to be 1000+ bpm, but it just ends up feeling like a constant wall of 16th or 32nd note kicks. For my personal tastes, 250 bpm is roughly the maximum speed for constant 4/4 kicks before they all sound like subdivisions no matter the context.
@AdamNeely16 күн бұрын
That’s exactly what the music psychology research suggests! 240-250bpm is roughly the fastest embodied pulse.
@wigglytbyКүн бұрын
As someone who has listened to a lot of speedcore and other fast music, i notice that a lot of well-made speedcore sounds fast because it still is fast. Despite the BPM being an unreasonable 880, there are a lot of musical cues that direct the listener towards a still-quite-fast 220 BPM. A song like Camellia's "Hello (BPM) 2021" still sounds lively and energetic because the other elements of the song reduce it to a more palatable tempo (just barely) of around 250. Other songs at such high tempos might not reinforce the human-scale tempo as well, resulting in what sounds like tempoless noise. On the other hand, this can actually work to the benefit of the song. One of my favorite extratone songs, "Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM" by Kobaryo doesn't provide as many clues to reduce its massive BPM of 2,640,000, but instead uses the hyperspeed kick drums to create an incredibly high-pitched melody above a tranquil backing that doesnt sound like it has even a triple digit BPM, much less a SEVEN-digit one.
@Troumbadour16 күн бұрын
Awesome video as always Adam! So happy to see how your channel and how Sungazer has grown over the years. Hoping someday you play a gig in Denver!
@orngejoos18 күн бұрын
The rule of odds is the reason why 6 piece nuggets should always include an extra 7th nugget!
@KieraQ032318 күн бұрын
Every other one should have 5
@batya718 күн бұрын
Adam, I can't count it, but I'm always glad to learn about it. Love your content. The 7-11 challenge is meta!
@LeoPerantoni18 күн бұрын
oh hey im in the adam neely video in 21:23
@madjazzer427218 күн бұрын
This was a really cool video to watch, both because 1) I am a music theory nerd and I enjoy the memes but also always wonder how it can be put into music that makes people feel things and 2) because I grooved to Against the Fall of Night in three and came into the video really curious about that very thing. Awesome presentation, love the new single
@a_person-qy9ju18 күн бұрын
Earlier today I was listening to someone talking about non-Western music attuned people hear Western music as marching music, all stiff and 4/4 and thud thud thud thud. Then I see this video. It's a sign! Time to revisit the lovely 7/4 piece I accidentally came up with a while ago!
@ClassicalClown17562 сағат бұрын
As a photographer it is generally true that things in odd numbers (specifically thirds) are more pleasing. There are of course many exceptions such as the Golden Spiral and certain types of diagonal compositions. But one thing that I find interesting is complete conceptual discrepancies between different artistic mediums. One example is music and poetry. In poetry, pentameter (groups of syllables in five) is generally seen as pleasing but the equivalent 5/4 in music is generally seen as jarring and uneven. Another example would be color theory and music. In music harmony (classical harmony) relies on intervals that have (generally) small ratios. At least tonic chords generally have this type of harmony. However in color theory, "complementary colors" are generally seen as pleasing, even calming. One example would be green and red or purple and yellow. But these are on opposite sides of the color wheel, essentially a visual tritone.
@kekleon-Gamer18 күн бұрын
I'm a simple man: I see an Adam Neely video, I click it.
@brandonhenderson911818 күн бұрын
Facts😂
@shryggur18 күн бұрын
Click repeatedly in hyper-tuplets no less
@briandpaul813418 күн бұрын
thanks for this upload, it reminded me how good of a drummer Shawn actually is
@delarkaBCN18 күн бұрын
"all music is in 4/4" has the same energy of "verything is a dildo if youre brave enough"
@AlyraMoondancer14 күн бұрын
I *love* Balkan music! You can talk about it any time you want, Adam! (and yes, I can do the dances, too!)
@JM-td2qb18 күн бұрын
Wait its all 4/4??? Adam Neely: Always has been...
@jacesvg18 күн бұрын
I instantly guessed the 13 lego bricks, I feel insane