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[@AdamNeely]

Check out Shawn Crowder playing Polyriddim! Some really stupid nested tuplets here kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqeTZqxpZrpkppY

[@whitemint9027]

You adding " I love you" in the end just made my day - needed to hear that. Thank you for your positive contribution to our education, entertainment and mental stability :)

[@franciscoaguirre96]

Hey adam! What do you think about poly tempos! Tempos inside tempos. Or nested tempos! I have an example about this but not sure how to show you

[@inazuma3gou]

Hey Adam! Why bass?

[@thiswlad]

So basically what you said is that jacob collier was just making harmony worse with "you and i" :Ъ that's a... that's... aaah... you know :Ъ

[@alannoob1926]

Hey Neely, I know you arent a singer, but I am a pianist (classical/jazz) who would like to learn how to sing so I could eventually accompany myself while I sing the melody of my favorite jazz/pop tunes. Do you or Madam Neely have anything to say? I'm just not sure where to start.

[@aydenwalters7463]

I hope you understand what you're unleashing on youtube by teaching kids how to do this

[@glumbortango7182]

A terrible army of raw power and _jazz._

[@Kerrmunism]

At least it isn’t lazy lofi?

[@peakcartoon]

Imagine all the djent

[@captainkiwi77]

Kerrmunism lofi is fine you’re just a music snob, I bet you dunk on pop musicians too, simple doesn’t equal bad

[@leafloaf3232]

Captain kiwi well I mean lazy lofi is uncreative and strictly derivative, I don’t think that type of music should be respected - but obviously the preface of “lazy” excludes lofi that is inspired in such a way that it must respected artistically and it doesn’t single out simplicity

[@BrianKrock]

“If you like the nerdy jazz stuff, you’ll probably like Brian Krock.” 😂 Thanks for the shout out, Adam!

[@windmillwilly]

Classic Brian!

[@Fine_Mouche]

i watched your video : " Fractals in the Music of Carla Bley | s c o r e s t u d y 0 3 " because it/she appears on the right when i was watching the video about fractal music of Adam Neely ^^

[@mihailmilev9909]

Heyyy ur right here. Might as well check it out now uk 😉

[@xisumavoid]

round 3:30 its like your writing the new meshuggah album :-D

[@nickmacrae5976]

I did not expect to see you here lol. Also wow you like Meshuggah?

[@colourfulbees]

o hey x!

[@juanignaciopozzi7412]

I'm sorry,,, wut

[@fatherindia4810]

This was a welcome surprise...I knew you were a pretty musical dude but I never really made the connection in my head lol

[@throatsinginggambist8927]

3:56 doubly nested tuplet djent

[@lifeteen2]

If Adam keeps saying "repetition legitimizes" I'm going to start thinking it's true.

[@krosskancelvlogs]

Repetition legitimizes

[@naresu]

Repetition legitimizes

[@MeatBunFul]

Lepitition Regitimizes

[@jzjzjzj]

@@MeatBunFul h

[@MVKUTA]

So what you're saying is if he repeats it, it will become legitimized?

[@alejandroboing9387]

6:00 I thought that the universal language was Uptown Funk

[@AndyChamberlainMusic]

pitchforks at the ready

[@Bisquick]

@Dalmo Mendonça can you explain reference...for a friend of course...

[@jarodivey9033]

@@Bisquick Another of Adam's videos. The video about playing as a State Department music ambassador. It's a great video. Ironically, he mentions that video in this question about "universal language".

[@Emsi_Lordtemp]

"It's so stupid. I love it." - Adam Neely 2020

[@manan-543]

That should be the motto of 2020. People are doing some really crazy and stupid things.

[@ackee39]

where

[@andrewring9999]

“Nested tuplets” sounds like an amazon Tupperware brand where all the Tupperwares neatly stack into eachother

[@GhostHax0r]

The Capitalist's Guide to Matroshka Dolls. Personally I have the Tchaikovsky ones.

[@mesientogut6701]

@@GhostHax0r omegalul own the capitalists, oh wait

[@ynxeita4131]

Love nested tuppers.

[@Unit_With_Legs]

@@GhostHax0r isn't it Matryoshka?

[@GhostHax0r]

@@Unit_With_Legs probably. I don't mind either way since I know people will misspell and mispronounce it anyways. Compared to all the "Cyka Blyat" jokes I hear when someone finds out I'm Russian, its harmless.

[@jeruxa224]

"It's impossible to reharm a Stevie Wonder song'' Jacob Collier: ''Hold my beer"

[@LucasLucasMusic]

that was exactly the second thing he said lol

[@mae__]

I was about to comment the same thing

[@rubencollegeabq]

definitely a shot at Jacob haha

[@jazzyboyem7b569]

Jacob would probably say, “hold my teabag.” lol

[@aksel3341]

13:59 Of course he starts talking over his bass solo

[@sage7296]

oh my god 🤣

[@manan-543]

😂😂😂

[@LeonidasKaragiannis]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@esmajin8185]

Damn lmao

[@slateman118]

He's really trying to push this whole "repetition legitimizes" thing. He's really trying to push this whole "repetition legitimizes" thing. He's really trying to push this whole "repetition legitimizes" thing.

[@isaacthecorncob]

He's really trying to push this whole "repetition legitimizes" thing.

[@saulo4302]

Hah, Hah, Hah,

[@variousthings6470]

This whole thing of "repetition legitimizes" is really being pushed by him.

[@MeatBunFul]

He's He's He's

[@HofTheStage]

Adam with delay

[@KyrieFortune]

"Is x a jazz instrument" I feel like the answer to this question is always "yes"

[@dankmemesdeaddreams2309]

B A G P I P E S

[@lukesalazar9283]

@@dankmemesdeaddreams2309 the hurdy-gurdy says hi too

[@Alex-fu3mi]

... mayonnaise?

[@monkeybusiness673]

More like "NO!...But actually, yes!"

[@AchingGibbon450]

“Someone one day was playing Minecraft and heard a Minecraft villager go hmm and went yo that could be an instrument” Kmac, circa 2020

[@georgejobe9402]

“Orange juice with tooth paste kinda vibe” so well put

[@josephfoxreno5353]

“Drum speak” is the REAL universal language. Play that one part that goes bahdah pagaduh chah chiggida chah chiggida blam boom shot!

[@manan-543]

Badam Tss

[@michaelbenoit9240]

Bucketofish

[@indigotheindieghost7214]

even that will differ from language to language, sadly

[@nosfy]

well said mate

[@Tizohip]

you know the chess player TARRASSSSHHHHHHH?

[@zippityzoop2576]

Adam Neely once stole my lunch money and explained the music theory behind how he's going to spend it

[@joyce_rx]

Adam Neely took my wife and kids.

[@impossibleguy5507]

*steals money in quintuplets in 4/20 time signature*

[@nochthitus9397]

Nested quintuplets in 4/20 time signatures in the polytonal keys of C and A#m

[@borgwardd24]

It would appear theneedledrop commenters have migrated....

[@DragonWinter36]

Borgwardd I was about to say the same thing lmao

[@henryrichard7619]

“Why do jazz musicians like Stevie Wonder so much” is a great garden path sentence.

[@melwugon3687]

Why do (Jazz musicians like Stevie) wonder (so much)

[@Wind-nj5xz]

@@melwugon3687 Why do wonder

[@mrpedrobraga]

@@Wind-nj5xz Why

[@energy_waves]

​@@melwugon3687 A Musician's Sentence

[@AnnaH-qt9nl]

tuplets happen when the kick and snare love each other very much...

[@findlayhamilton-jones3863]

Nested trumpets aren't a problem Adam, trumpeters are people too

[@findlayhamilton-jones3863]

dyslexia legitimises

[@DarkandBroody]

@@findlayhamilton-jones3863 trying saying that five times fast

[@timbeaton5045]

What about nested Strumpets? Same applies!

[@davisginn1298]

John Verne 😂😂

[@fhqwhgads1670]

Found the brass nerd. (we can smell our own)

[@urbanbluegrass]

"It is impossible to re-harmonize a Stevie Wonder song, because the perfect harmony already exists and he wrote it. I guess you could de-harmonize a Stevie Wonder song, but then you'd just be making it worse." -Adam Neely

[@felixcastellanos5960]

*Jacob Collier has entered the chat*

[@HotStrange]

Felix Castellanos he’s good but he can’t compare to Stevie.

[@tillyhossain1049]

@@felixcastellanos5960 That's what I thought.

[@bernhardkrickl3567]

I liked that statement so much I watched it twice :)

[@DownUFO]

Stevie Wonder’s songs don’t need Collier’s reharm though, is the point. Wonder already found the perfect harmony.

[@DanceOfTheDawn5963]

3:58 that is so animals as leaders and also the coolest one note riff I’ve ever heard

[@wyattwahlgren8883]

Important note about c clefs: Trombones, euphoniums (sometimes), cellos, and bassoons use tenor clef when there would be a lot of ledger lines. I do not think it is a bad idea to learn those clefs for players of those instruments. However, I know you were talking to a singer, but still.

[@daveatkinson644]

As a bass player who plays a bit of classical stuff for fun, I too see tenor clef often enough to have made it worth learning. It was surprisingly easy, I think the key was really wanting to play that piece...

[@arizonagreenbee]

euphoniums very rarely use tenor clef because we can already read treble, which is what most euphoniums use playing higher registers

[@scottgray4623]

​@@arizonagreenbeeI started off playing trumpet before learning euphonium, so naturally, treble clef is where I started. After struggling to adapt to bass clef, I was introduced to tenor clef as trombone music will sometimes be written in it to avoid excess ledger lines. I was initially hesitant to learn ANOTHER new clef, but then so relieved to realize that it read the same as treble clef (as long as you rememberef to add two sharps.)

[@CalebTheTwig]

as a bass player i can tell you it would be much much easier to read treble clef, or the high ledger lines.

[@FatherBrum]

Everyday countless bassoonists are abused by the Tenor Clef. For just $18 a month, only 60 cents a day, you'll help rescue bassoonists from Tenor Clef. They have it tough enough already.

[@gabrielmanzano7375]

No kidding! Same goes with our fellow trombones and euphonists (?)

[@jra0424]

And cellists too! Seriously, just stick with bass and treble.

[@matthewkropilnicki6472]

Don't forget the violas

[@natheniel]

Joe Adcock tenor clef is actually great for cello, they just shift everything up a string and then voila tenor clef

[@trombonedude5312]

God I hate tenor clef

[@themandownstairs4765]

therapist: bill wurtz adam neely can't hurt you, he isn't real bill wurtz adam neely: 0:00

[@edvid5626]

I was thinking Charles Cornell

[@nabeelansari355]

@@edvid5626 lol same

[@onesyphorus]

Uh Mononeon lol

[@Bladavia]

Yeah, Adam Cornell

[@FredHMusic-gr7nu]

@@edvid5626 same

[@MandrakeGuy]

this video was probably the catalyst for what i have become. 5/4 is my prefered time signature, decimal signatures are normal to me, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand 17/16 is my favourite time signature. more nested tuplets.

[@nathanmathews9423]

As a cellist I can say that I regularly use a c clef on my instrument as well. Cellos commonly use tenor clef (where the middle c is on the second staff line from the top). Reading bass clef ledger lines with more than four becomes a challenge, and its much easier in tenor clef, because its just shifted up a fifth, and cello is tuned in fifths.

[@seth094978]

Low brass instruments and low woodwinds also use tenor clef. For Bb trombone and euphonium in particular, tenor clef puts all the notes in the same positions as transposed treble clef (since we transpose a major ninth down when reading treble). Third space in tenor is Bb, the same note as the third space C in treble, making life somewhat easier. Most of us probably only learn to read one or the other, then adjust key signatures and accidentals when reading the other clef.

[@CalebTheTwig]

but if we replaced the c clef with a treble clef it would become 1000% easier

[@yungstallion2201]

I bet Jacob Collier could tap his foot to e: pi

[@tjcogger1974]

2.718 beats per measure, and the pi notes get the beat.

[@Andy_ARBS]

that's just 3:3 tho, what's so hard about that : ^)

[@montrealbreakcore3241]

@@Andy_ARBS reported

[@davidmcginness]

Engineering logic

[@arpitdas4263]

@@Andy_ARBS hello mr Engineer

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Charles Cornell interrupting you in the beginning was the best intro you could've done

[@DeathSensei]

Bro what channel don’t you watch

[@mosqski3106]

From music channels to sora the troll hmm

[@lifeontheledgerlines8394]

^^

[@guywholikesthesnarkies1435]

@@mosqski3106 and games.. and memes.. and films.. maybe motorsport as well?

[@gamedifficulty190]

found you again

[@spectralchapel4120]

I just wanted to say that for me, Adam Neely may be one of the most reassuring musicians who I have ever seen on youtube. His viewpoint, attitude and musical identity are so centralised and reasonable, alongside his great technical ability and gentle approach to understanding music and musicians. Being a musician during 2020 is about 10 times more difficult than I thought it would be back in 2003, which is linked to music being a rapidly changing field. Some might say that music is a rapidly worsening field, but folks like Neely are like a window of light in a tunnel. Being chased by a werewolf, towards a vampire, window of light, this is interesting, anyway, greetings from the U.K. and please keep this brilliant channel going.

[@VivinAnand]

Adam Neely: It's impossible to reharmonize a Stevie Wonder song. Jacob Collier: Hold my beer.

[@fikradas]

Oh no Adam uses two cameras now, production value will a s c e n d (really thought you'd recreate a quintuplet version of Bleed with those nested tuples)

[@samus88]

I actually wonder what he thinks about Messugah or djent metal. He mentions it in memes, but does he actually like the genre, or metal in general? I can't imagine him being into that.

[@isaacthecorncob]

I need to hear that, but it would have to be someone else making it. Cause I can't play that shit.

[@Bizarro_Bry]

he's been using two cameras for awhile now lol

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

@@samus88 I can't imagine him not liking Meshuggah. Probably not his favorite band by a long shot, but if you know as much about music as he does (and still manage to enjoy it...), you will enjoy Meshuggah.

[@fikradas]

@@Bizarro_Bry never noticed, my bad!

[@Zack_Taylor]

9:45 this is an EXCELLENT example of how chord voicing can change things and why.

[@liveandletslide3990]

"People stopped using C Clefs, all except the violists" Classical Trombonists: what about me?

[@daveatkinson644]

That, and the classical bassists and the cellists... (as a bass player who tinkers with the cello and the trombone too, I'd say it's been worth learning tenor clef at least..!).

Also, bassoon... I’ve heard for cello, but never for bass before?

[@zewensenpai]

@ yeah what piece for bass use alto? That bass must be screeching

[@derekpulsifer6489]

We're always forgotten. What I've learned-tenor clef is common for higher parts and alto clef means the composer hates you.

[@esauponce9759]

@@zewensenpai Check, for example, Fr. Cerny's Nocturne and Intermezzo (in F major) and Danse des Satyres (in A major).

[@dafenz5902]

3:41 BLEEEEEEED IT SAAAAAAYS Adam: Hold my beer 3:55 Guess you gotta wake up pretty early in the morning to get a music reference over on old Neely.

[@palibakufun]

"C Clef is unimportant" *cries in trombone*

[@dylanjwebmusic]

I would cry if I played trombone too

[@nicholasneyhart396]

C Clef is pretty versatile for low brass and strings.

[@clickito]

dies in viola

[@palibakufun]

@@nicholasneyhart396 I love tenor clef personally. Consistent notes above 2 or 3 ledger lines is hard to read IMO. I don't understand how flute players do it

[@jonathanpelletier4910]

I heard this comment

[@matthewkropilnicki6472]

He's heard of Polyriddim? I'm actually kind of surprised I don't know why.

[@prodpoob]

this is epic

[@timbeaton5045]

Actually, i'm not. He seems to have a pretty catholic taste in music, and seems to have his finger on many pulses. No doubt nested.

[@Seltaeb_]

@@timbeaton5045 but are the tuplets?

[@Udontkno7]

I was but wasn’t

[@kennethreed8746]

Why he has shown to have very in depth knowledge of theory at this point I’m not surprised by anything he knows.

[@GeorgeBurkhard]

You are IMPRESSIVELY good at supporting your sponsors. On other videos, I hear the sponsor message and start hitting skip. I watched through both SkillShare plugs in this video because you knitted them into the content enough that I wanted to watch it. I hope they are paying attention, 'cause this is worth more than the average creator's sponsorship!!!

[@d812_9]

A great song that (I'm pretty sure) has Nested Tuplets in it is "Drip" by Tigran Hamasyan. The keyboard solo in that is the 'nested' bit.

[@budgetguitaristcom]

Reminds me of web design, where you have a div in a div in a div in a div....

[@patrickv.3979]

Honestly this.

[@danpremo6958]

Should try early 2000's standards (or update someone's "legacy"), where you have a table in a td in a tr in a tbody in a table. Fun stuff!

[@alexismandelias]

@@danpremo6958 oh... I just died a little inside with that one

[@richarddoan9172]

nested columns

[@quatricise]

@@danpremo6958 Not only that but you have to deal with a bunch of deprecated elements and inline styling. *Shivers*

[@brogansmith1342]

I'm pretty sure the reason they still teach sight singing in C-clefs is so that you can transpose really easily when you have to.

[@EccentricFanboy]

@John Verne I feel like the kinds of high school band directors who would make you sight sing in C-clef are people who teach at schools with advanced band programs where you don't need to change people around for instrumentation.

[@rars0n]

@John Verne Most instruments are either treble or bass clef. If you play piano, you're already covered. Especially for the simple music that they play in a high-school band. I switched between various instruments in middle school and high school and never had a problem, and I didn't need C-clef training for that. Playing piano was most helpful.

[@Jrez]

I've gotta say your continued approach to not clickbait and to just put the answer to the video title directly in the thumbnail or right at the front of the video is so refreshing. It makes your videos so much more calming to watch, there's not even a hint of "how long am I going to have to watch to get the answer to the hook, or is there even an answer in the video?" That anxiety I get from the uncertainty of what has sadly become the standard KZbin practice of heavily engineered clicks and watch time down to the second. The assurance that you aren't trying to maliciously manipulate the viewer (beyond nerding out on spicy jazz memes) is a comfort amidst chaos. Tranquility.

[@markojev]

Me: 1 e and a, 2 e and a, 3 e and a.. Adam: ..been uncovering the secrets of Chamfered Convex Swivuplets

[@ProfessorDenn]

Pro tip: When making nested tuplets in Ableton, instead of adding an extra note, you can also hold shift and drag selection marker to the end of the note. This is helpful in other situations too.

[@ailtire2117]

You need a medal of some sort, why is this a hidden feature? I've been using the "add one" method for years! Have a medal 🏅

[@onesyphorus]

Thanks!!

[@nathanhammontree2018]

Hey man! Would you happen to know how to do the same thing in pro tools?

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

3:55 Even the first nested tuplets sure as hell sounded like something Meshuggah would like.

[@bernhardkrickl3567]

I thought so, too, although I think meshuggah is doing something different. There's this distinction between polyrhythm and polymeter and I'm not sure which one was which but Meshuggah is doing the other one ;) With tuplets you break up same-lengths bars into different-lengths sub-divisions and I think that's polyrhythm. But Meshuggah mostly plays different-length bars with same-length subdivisions, which would be polymeter iirc.

[@ryanshreevedrums]

Bernhard Krickl Meshuggah definitely does both poly rhythm and poly meter. They do quite a good bit of 4:3 and 4:6 patterns, odd time signatures, beat displacement and subdivisions all mixed together. Not to mention those atonal, chromatic guitar solos lol

[@JuicyLeek]

11:30 Interesting to hear this about disparity between undergraduate music curriculum and real world modern musical skills. I was surprised to hear that DAWs aren't used in those curriculums. The same disparity is widespread in the software engineering world where many fresh grads are woefully unfamiliar with the tools and practices used at a modern software engineering firm.

[@schniT_T]

You never cease to inspire. Thanks so much

[@AnthonieMusic]

I thought the same way about C clefs until I had to start composing for ensembles and realised that trombones, bassoons and cellos also read in tenor clef. Even though I don't think you have to learn to sing in them, I think it's useful to be able to write and read in them comfortably if you want to orchestrate or write for those instruments. UPDATE: I am working on a piece with a double bass in now. Once again, I know when the bass is playing high they can read in both treble and tenor clefs. I spoke to a few double bassists and all of them said they didn't really have a preference and it depended on the context.

[@FacePomagranate]

It's not like the average person in music college will have to spend a significant on C clefs anyways. A lot of people in colleges/universities complain that they have to learn about obscure things (not just in music), but that's the whole reason you're in higher education. You should at least be exposed to things like that, maybe dip your feet into them so you have a bit of experience in case you run into it in real life.

[@BandBHawks]

I've only ever sight sung on alto and tenor clef, which is fine for me as an orchestrator/composer. I also had the advantage of viola being my primary instrument, though.

[@JHouse4]

Being fluent in other clefs is so liberating and... satisfying. After filling in on viola in my orchestra and becoming fluent in alto clef, I've found so many devious little uses for it. Buy a copy of the cello suites transcribed for viola? Ended up using that edition later on bass clarinet, recorder, and eventually cello itself without having to buy or print off different versions. Reading concert pitch treble music on a Bb instrument? Pretend it's alto clef and it's only a few accidentals to keep track of. Other way around? Pretend it's tenor clef and bob's yer uncle. And not everybody can just read bass clef music on flute/recorder, or treble music on tuba/bassoon. It really comes in handy. I've even casually written out bits of piano music in alto clef because that's just where all the notes were and I was too lazy to draw out the ledger lines by hand. If nobody else but me is gonna read it, I'm going to take the easy way out. Is it a useless skill? I would say... yes. Even score study as a conductor you don't really need to be able to read the viola/cello/bone/bassoon parts note by note fluently. But it's so nice to just... be able to without thinking about it. Plus you can make sense of early music without having to pull your hair out. That's gotta be worth something.

[@BruceBalden]

The octave-shifted treble clef is nearly identical to the tenor clef and is a simpler solution for voices.

[@jakeread2862]

Damn right, sir. C-clefs are so very important to any musician. Trebel and bad clefs have been in common practice for 300 years. C-clefs were in practice for centiries beforehand. If you have an interest in music, you have you have an appreciation for how they work. Good show

[@AmazingMrMe123]

As a violist I do have to say the only reason to learn c clef is to be a violist. Which I must say, is a worthy cause.

[@DeGuerre]

As a cellist, tenor clef is extremely convenient, because it's the bass clef one string higher. Engravers and composers take note, cellists love tenor cleff.

[@IsraAliens]

Hey Adam, Love your stuff, short story regarding to something in this video, hope you read this. My dad was a Musician, he played various woodwind instruments (all saxophones, flutes, clarinets, oboe and more) In this big production he played in back in the 80s, he played on 7 instruments and he came up with all the parts himself. one time the production needed to preform in London, and the producer didn't agree to pay my dad his usual agreed apon fee, and wanted to pay way less, my dad wouldn't have it. last minute that producer stole all of my dad's notation of the parts, and hired another professional player who could play a decent amount of the instrument. apon arrival to London that replacement musician couldn't play a note from my dad's sheets. because: 1. My dad never wrote when he was changing from one instrument to another from his 7 difference instruments. 2. He didnt write which klef it was in, and it was acctually written in C klef. that's his story about C klef, and also the reason many composers enjoyed working with him, cause they could write him music to play in C klef, and he would transpose it on the spot to which ever instrument he wanted or needed to play.

[@surfinpiratedude]

Adam On Camera: What's the most interesting music you've come across? Adam's Inner Thoughts: ...repetition legitimizes...repetition legitimizes...repetition legitimizes...

[@J1oTTa]

Adam: Its impossible to reharmonize stevie wonder Jacob: Here's my grammy

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

Collier's the only musician who has ever inspired hate in me. Reharmonizing Hallelujah was a risk that might have paid off, but he did it with no consideration of the source material, the subject matter, he was just flexing. He should be in music jail, if there were such a thing...

[@kylezo]

@@martinmaguire-music6692 Such a strong reaction is a compliment to both you and Jacob Collier.

[@DimIsHigh]

1. Excellent use of the "..so you can X while you X" meme, haven't seen it in a few years and absolutely loved it 2. Standing ovation for that Stevie Wonder line 3. And to think that that book could've opened on Giant Steps

[@PabloAfroSamurai]

Flawless skillshare transition. I really love your channel man.

[@manuelpose2885]

Your videos just keep getting better

[@sihplak]

11:18 Trombonists and Cellists will also use C-clefs

[@michaweinst3774]

Two signs that Adam Neely is a Twoset fan: A. Makes fun of Twoset, regarding non-applauding in classical music performances B. Makes fun of violists

[@MrHestichs]

He’s made a video about them on his second channel. I didn’t get the idea that he particulary likes them.

[@DagothThorus]

He's just a trained musician..

[@qsafex]

@@MrHestichs What's the video called? Can't find anything similar there

[@melm4251]

@@qsafex i heard that one got deleted, something about a hip hop cover they did

[@evan.escent]

@@qsafex its unlisted, google adam neely twoset unlisted. he goes off pretty hard on them

[@konfluence]

ah sweet I've been waiting for a skillshare sponsor to pop up cos I want to learn some stuff, glad it was you Adam cos I've been a big fan for a while! 1m subs too that's sweet. great video as always!

[@Towandakit]

Adam, your tone in this video fits my 2020 existence so perfectly, thank you for being you

[@JVR10893]

Comment on practicing the C clef: Back in high school, our choir director used to make us write out the solfege for the songs we would be singing. Now my best friend has perfect pitch, and I have relative pitch and worked on my pitch recognition to the point where it borders on perfect pitch. Because of this, my friend and I could do the work provided with no challenge whatsoever. Our choir director knew this and would have us do the work in one of the C clef positions (whichever one she fancied that day). This wasn't meant for us to learn a clef that we would never use. Rather it was to give us a different challenge so that we wouldn't get complacent and wouldn't rely on our talent too much to get by, making sure we had to put in the proper work necessary to succeed in life just like everybody else. It was a valuable lesson that I didn't fully understand at the time (I just enjoyed being given something interesting to do) but now that I look back, I'm so grateful towards her.

[@evanwilliamsguitar]

Joe Romano what did you work on to get your pitch recognition to that level?

[@ponpokointhedistance]

Damn that's more and less what they do to us too I guess, more about stepping out of the comfort zone, but it does get out of hand at times

[@thygod]

I wasn't in choir, but my music theory teacher's way of pushing me was coming up with more and more ridiculous intervals and chord voicings to have me identify in the pitch recognition exercises he made everyone do. Eventually he busted out a timer for my portion. When the timer thing happened I finally started fucking up. We did have a bit about C-clef practice, but it was more of a single day throwaway lesson that we weren't really expected to follow up on, mostly because the only one in the class who would ever use it already knew it because violist.

[@JVR10893]

@@evanwilliamsguitar it was more or less familiarizing myself with a bunch of songs in different keys and using my ability to audiate to find the tonic. If I looked at the music and saw the song was in let’s say F, I would think of a song with F as the tonic (my go to for that pitch is The Root of all Evil by Dream Theater) and then once I had the tonic, my relative pitch could take over from there. As an adult with a full time job outside of music who therefore doesn’t have as much time to work on my craft I’ve lost some of that ability (I can still audiate to find the key of a song but can’t do it as fast as I could in high school) but my relative pitch still remains mostly intact.

[@selfiestick1589]

"Is so stupid, I love it" Thats my motto

[@aza091234]

This video brightened my day! Thank you!

[@SaxandRelax]

your voice is so calming

[@RudyAyoub]

I always pronounced panzerballet with s very hard T at the end am I dumb

[@wandtpag]

well in German that would make sense...

[@stonedmole2351]

@@wandtpag but the t come first

[@stefanmuehlenkamp]

Its spelled PANZERBALLET. Thank me later

[@ashoka9306]

no, they are german, you should pronounce it pun-tsah-bah-let

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

​@@ashoka9306 you don't pronounce it as pun-tsah in german wtf

[@JUNKO____]

I really appreciate you actually merging your ads with what your channel is all about instead of doing the half assed ad reads that you see everywhere else.

[@lucasgrape8576]

Best about these kind of videos are the recommendations for fellow contemporary musicians to follow. THANK YOU!

[@talonthehand]

I still get stoked every time I see a viola reference. My people.

[@iamihop1123]

Thank You Scientist's live performances are the closest thing I've heard to Jazz Metal. I believe they're classified as Progressive metal-jazz fusion, and while their albums are meticulously refined (not improvised), they're all perfectly capable of cutting loose and riffing off one another.

[@streitlucas]

C clefs are also used among cellists for medium high notes, and transpositions among winds instruments

[@bruh-di4ku]

Adam you seem so much happier and energetic in your videos! I hope you are doing as well as you seem!!

[@emilbyberg103]

13:22, the first time someone ever told me that in my life

[@LeonardoHernandez-eg5dv]

I love how even Adam who is a jazz musician makes fun of violas

[@static_motion]

3:57 ngl that sounded absolutely amazing

[@yesmissjane]

I know I'm late to this, but I just wanted to tell you that what you said about missing making music together really spoke to me. The last Sunday we had church, like actual, in person, together in a room together church, before the lockdown (who knows WHEN that will even happen again) my nine year old and one of his friends started legitimately jamming on the piano and drum set up afterwards, and then a similarly aged girl grabbed the mic and started improv singing silly made up lyrics, and it was quite frankly the most rewarding moment I think I have ever experienced as a parent. Making music together is like actual magic.

[@No-pm4ss]

With the entire universal language thing: I think it’s more that music is able to convey emotion no matter your heritage or linguistic knowledge, rather than a way to have meaningful conversation. But yeah this is an interesting discussion

[@dang5874]

No, music has different languages within it (e.g. jazz, mongolian throat singing, dubstep, etc.) and you may understand one, feel something by hearing it, but not the others as each has its own gestures, context, history, etc.

[@sacalius_papalagius]

i feel the same about frickin' transposing instruments, but now that this is the norm learning the C clef can be somewhat usefull

[@weavingthevaluess]

this is the definition of a breakdown in hardcore myoooosic,, listen to ANY song with a breakdown and the kicks will cycle like this in between a slow cymbal and snare 4/4,, and the kicks will get technical af and sounds sooo groovetastic

[@MonoIce350s]

The tenor clef is very much in use today in orchestral repertoire: bassoon, contrabassoon, tenor trombone, violoncello, and even contrabass from time to time. And however rare, the alto trombone is another orchestral instrument that primarily uses alto clef.

[@seth094978]

Tenor tuba (euphonium) also uses tenor clef.

[@henrychien1979]

Question for your next q&a: Why are there certain instruments that are constantly joked about (eg: viola)? What attributes of the instruments make them joke-worthy?

[@maradupras7278]

Adam when he hits 1M subs: "I'ma just pretend I didn't see that"

[@josealm6877]

You see these nested tuplets all the time in concert snare drum literature, i especially like the way Joe Tompkins incorporates them in his snare solo’s very challenging to count but when executed it grooves

[@japanlovesyou]

Tis been 2 weeks since your last video. I hope you are not sick and are feeling great. Keep up the great work

[@connormacdonald2883]

I thought the nested tuplet was a species of bird?

[@nickl2854]

Thank you for this comment

[@Richard_Jones]

I think you're thinking of Crested Tuplets. By the way, the phenomenon of telling a worse joke straight after a good one is known as 'shitting on the joke.' It is my only skill

[@davidbonar5190]

i thought it was a small, nest-shaped toupee

[@manan-543]

@@Richard_Jones I guess it works sometimes.

[@christiansmusic587]

"What is Adam Neely to you?" - "It's when you hit like after a silly introduction joke bc then you just know this video is gonna be great!"

[@RainbowDemon]

I love that the question the title of the video comes from is usually the first few questions, instead of doing what most people would do which is save it for the end.

[@Bensoon09]

11:20 Bassoonists use C clef, too! We use the tenor version (tenor clef). Trombonists too, sometimes.

[@HotStrange]

13:45 hit me hard. Really miss playing music with my friends right now.

[@asymmetree2748]

9:19 Ahhh! Finally he mentions Panzerballett! It's THE band for all of us nerds. Catchy quintuplet grooves, double bass and jazz solos. Go check them out, srsly.

[@smorrow]

I think he's mentioned them before

[@plitser9880]

Hey Adam! I've been longing to find someone who understands and analyzes in-depth the wonderful chord progressions in Earth, Wind, and Fire's "After the Love has Gone", but I haven't found anything yet. I really hope you do a video about it since I'm really intrigued by its style. Thank you so much, and keep up the nicest musical analysis!

[@unsanitizedbabywipes6154]

I liked the video from the start. Adam neely always amazes me.

[@eldermartins130]

Is music an universal language? Me: G A Bb C A, F G! Edit: sorry, misspelled a flat there

[@MinecraftMaullin]

8:55 i thought he was going to talk about Tigran Hamasyan on this one

[@kaurii_3935]

i have to thank you for your lack of clickbait, and that you clearly state the answer in the thumbnail if people dont have time for the more complex explanation/answer

[@MaddesG1]

Adam the nested tuplet thing is amazing!

[@user-pf9xy8iw4v]

"Doubly nested tuplet djent" is probably one of my favorite phrases ever

[@sakula2337]

Intelligence makes a person so much more attractive. You very cute.

[@drftr6073]

Damn the thirst

[@husnainali-gn8bo]

this is one of the most interesting comments I've ever seen and I agree

[@Koettnylle]

@@drftr6073 Nothing bad with that.

[@sanny8716]

@@Koettnylle What about when a guy expresses it to a girl?

[@TheVirIngens]

@@sanny8716 happens way more often so girls are more likely to be tired of it. yes, there is a huge double standard here and you might call it ridiculous or even sexist, but at least part of it is deeply rooted in biological differences between genders, due to the fact that mating historically represented a much greater investment for the girl.

[@uliuchu4318]

9:20 I was about to recommend Panzerballet when you already did! Nice to see that they are getting international attention. I have seen them live a few times and they are FUN!

[@Aubstract]

I love the vibe of this video!

[@AFN2750]

I think music is considered a sort of universal language not because musicians can speak together, but because anyone can hear and at least understand the emotion behind it, in a way that “AAAH” screamed is a universal sign of pain, or a smile is a universal sign of happines. Even if another culture has another specific method of portraying that particular feeling, everyone understands what that means.

[@barttennekes544]

I have a feeling that Charles Cornell might be related to that intro

[@onesyphorus]

MonoNeon and Bill Wurtz

[@apoplexiamusic]

Thank you! That trick to make tuplets is so awesome! I’ve wondered over the past 10 years how programming odd rhythms like that could be done in Live... and now i realize i did it accidentally a few times...

[@Ighorkeyboard]

that thing you said about learning stupid stuff like sight reading viola clef in music school and not learning really useful stuff like daws is the truest of truths