WAIT! Quest 3 Controller Tracking Isn't as good as Quest 2 - At Least Not Yet...

[@YTLavaFN]

"Boner Lab" "Beat your saber" what was bro on about💀💀💀💀

[@Liledgend]

YOOOOO😂😂😂

[@NaitaAkaoni_Roblox_Z]

dude the skulls make it less funny maybe 1 or 2 at max pro tip

[@diebygaming8015]

I was never bothered by the tracking rings on the previous gen controllers. I would rather have the rings and better tracking. Meta should release an update that allows us to use our quest 2 controllers with our quest 3s. Since many quest 3 owners also own quest 2s. Should be doable

[@sixtacos]

In theory it is possible like as you can with the Quest Pro controllers. The problems occurs when you have to retrain all the data to learn the old controllers with the different cameras. I think of it like shoes they serve the same purpose but not everyone wears the same size. Whereas, in Q2 it favored LEDs, in Q3 it favors the algorithm and IMUs. I think holistically they know its not even worth the effort for the tiny fraction of people like me that would do so. If you look at Metas lineup of controllers they want to achieve QPro like self tracking without the cameras on the headset at a lower price. They are banking IMUs and the AI which is just machine learning to solve that issue for them.

[@avitkori765]

I brought the Quest 3 mainly for beat Saber. The moment I jumped into the first map, I felt something was really off. I disabled hand tracking and got slightly better results, however, still not perfect as with Base stations. Such a bummer to have removed those tracking rings.

[@leo_is_a_baka]

Weird. My quest 3 controllers track way better then the quest 2 controllers.

[@dogboygamer689]

I was going to get a quest 3, but then I got suspicious of controller tracking. glad I went with the quest 2 for beat saber!

[@leo_is_a_baka]

​@@dogboygamer689quest 3 controller tracking is better for beat saber. If it isn't you've got a faulty unit.

[@Tw1stTech]

@@leo_is_a_bakano it isn’t. It just CANT be! Look at the camera positions. Overhead and far out swings cause real problems cause the controllers go outside of the headsets vision and the prediction SUCKS! If you are big and have long arms the problem becomes even more pronounced. Everyone is blaming the missing tracking rings but that’s maybe 20% of what’s causing the issues. The headset not having ANY part of the controller in the cameras vision is what’s really at fault here

[@justamicrowave5297]

@@leo_is_a_bakait is not. I’m bad, but I have noticed my saber actually going through blocks and not counting it. It’s hard to tell sometimes, but I saw it once where it was very clear that it went through the block. I also tried switching to quest 2 and I was able to make it just as far in 1 try as i could in 3 tries on quest 3. It seems to work fine with gorilla tag, super hot, and other games. But beat saber is just absolutely infuriating.

[@KindOldRaven]

Good job on the clear criticism. Meta has made some pretty great improvements to controller tracking during the Q2's lifetime - based on feedback and internal testing. If you encounter issues such as these: report them, share them with friends and on YT. It's the fastest way to have things improve. The one thing I applaud Meta for is their firmware and sometimes software updates - launch Q2 vs Q2 now is a huge, huge difference. So I'm fairly optimistic they can at the very least further improve this

[@Tw1stTech]

They might make it better but the sub par hardware capabilities won’t ever be fixed by software updates. People with the „ambition for precision“ should just return it and stick to a Q2 or bite the bullet and buy pro controllers. Nothing will fix missing camera coverage

[@RCarpeDiem83]

Just purchased a pair of Quest Pro controllers for my Quest 2. Three cameras per controller for tracking make for a superior tracking experience.

[@sixtacos]

What games did you try first? Interesting you went Q2 with pro controllers instead of Q3.

[@NDBGaming323]

I agree. I play a lot of modded beatsaber and have started to notice how terrible the tracking is when moving the controllers at high speed. They tend to drift off from there X, Y, Z position while still updating gyro data and sometimes not even update those positions at all. I don’t get any of these issues with the quest 2 and will stick to the quest 2 till meta fixes it.

[@TheTech9]

Its funny you mention that it's always losing tracking on the LEFT controller. I have the opposite problem of always losing tracking on the RIGHT controller while aiming. It's worth noting though that this is probably due to me being LEFT handed and I always inadvertently cover it with my left arm when aiming.

[@RoccaaaHD]

Try buying an RGB bulb and use green color in your room. This itself made tracking in my room twice as good.

[@johnsledge3942]

interesting idea, my room has lots of colored LED's everywhere so I might try this. Any reason why green in particular?

[@iCOGNiTOSHiNOBi]

I found quest 2 is so much better for tracking than then the quest 3 that I returned. Don’t get me wrong the fidelity in Quest 3 is more detailed if your using it standalone. I used it with my gaming pc, I have used the Quest 2 for Kingspray and found the tracking to be much better due to the tracking rings. I think algorithmic Ai for quest 3 wouldn’t have been an issue but due to the rings being removed it just doesn’t cut it. I found my “LEFT” controller was always cutting out and dying intermittently. I am on the fence with wanting to get a Quest 3 again but I’m glad I got the Quest 2 last week.

[@sixtacos]

I go back to Quest 2 frequently due to my content and I get surprised when controllers get tracked more accurately than the next gen headset. Maybe the left controller problem is a problem with the data set that Meta uses to train its algorithms on the tracking. If the tracking gets fixed I'm sure you will get a way better deal for the money.

[@johnnyt5054]

@@sixtacos It's not just the Quest 2. The Quest 1 has superior tracking to the Q3.

[@notlookme]

Yeah the video is cool but the beatsaber gameplay in background is crazy good

[@sixtacos]

Fellow Saber Beater enjoyer

[@rookless4121]

I definitely see a difference in a few games. The main one that bothers me is Thrill of the Fight, I tried to fight on my usual difficulty but the tracking was just off and not hitting nearly as hard even after resetting the auto adjust. I was already planning on getting the pro controllers but it's still pretty disappointing.

[@sixtacos]

A lot of games that require intense movement like TotF see a downgrade on tracking. On launch day it immediately hit me on Beat Saber that Quest 2 was still going to remain in my rotation.

[@Tw1stTech]

Dude if you haven’t yet: get the pros - the price sucks and I hated paying it BUT: the pro controllers in a well lit room make the quest 3 THE best headset I have used to date for EVERYTHING - beatsaber and ttotf are a blast. Get the game optimiser and crank out a nice res @120hz and it’ll not take toooo long to forget the investment in the controllers.

[@justamicrowave5297]

Now I really know it’s not just mine, because both my controllers have issues, but my left controller is worse. It seems to work just fine in some other games like gorilla tag and super hot, but beat saber has been actually terrible. It sucks because switching from quest 3 to quest 2 you can tell that quest 3 looks much better and I was pretty excited, but it’s just impossible to play beat saber.

[@ChernoBueno]

50hz uk light flicking will interfere with 50hz tracking, turn to 60hz in uk, I have & I have 0 issues not a single issue with tracking & I’m been completely honest

[@ZincZXzinx]

How do u change hZ?

[@Eightfinger]

@@ZincZXzinx While using the Quest in Standalone Mode (without Airlink or PC-Link) you can find it in the Settings (settings > device > tracking frequency). Usually it is on "automatic", but that doesn't always work as intended, and setting Hz manually can help then.

[@gama9026]

I wonder if they can fix this issue with future software updates.

[@sixtacos]

After seeing that most of my issues are the left controller I'm leaning more on it being fixed with updates. It can be fixed at an instant and all they need to do for the loss of slightly worse battery life on the controllers is adding more LEDs to the controllers.

[@iCOGNiTOSHiNOBi]

However there solution is the pro controllers iv seen people report with those which have cameras no issues at all. I feel that they went cheap mode on these Quest 3 controllers I’m glad I retuned mine and got a quest 2 only thing for me is the quality on quest 2 on the games like Kingspray graffiti. I have a pc which I run steam games on also you can’t tell the quality on those though. Ahh I think the quest Lite with have Quest 3 features but tracking rings.

[@wingsoficarus1139]

Im hearing from most people that the tracking is on par if not better than the Quest 2. Whats the deal with the mixed results?

[@Fisierru]

i'm suprised aswell. imho, Quest 3 has a little better tracking than Quest 2. No clue what's going on

[@Tw1stTech]

Imagine being 2meters tall and having the long arms to go with that: now imagine the overhead and far out swings some games require. Then look at the area the centred cameras of the Q3 cover. Easy to get the controllers out of sight and the „AI“ prediction takes over and it sucks balls at fast precision games. Q3 controllers track better then its predecessors BUT ONLY IF the headset actually sees them. But the missing corner cameras make it so a Q2 can see it’s controllers in A LOT more of these edge cases. The rings help with that too. So it’s a combination of these two things. Play in a way where the headset always sees the controllers and have shorter arms as well: no problems and you won’t ever understand where the complaints are coming from. Long arms and or wide swings (especially over head) and you’ll fucking hate the tracking and won’t ever understand how anyone can say it’s fine. Same coin - different sides ;-)

[@Fisierru]

​@@Tw1stTech oh, so that's where the issue is. Thank mate, really appreciate the explanation!

[@wingsoficarus1139]

@@Tw1stTech What games have you had the most trouble with the tracking? Most of the tests I've seen this headset on were for Asgards Wrath 2, Half Life Alyx, those sort of games because thats what I'm mostly going to use them for. Of course these are also slower paced games so I havent heard anything bad about the tracking in these.

[@Tw1stTech]

@@wingsoficarus1139 many games are designed with the limitations of inside out tracking of quests (nowadays and for the near future especially Quest3 will be considered) and other standalones in mind. The more the game is made this way the less you’ll notice. The more games are playtested and used for the AI prediction catalogue the less you’ll notice. So big titles like AC, AW2, RM2 etc probably have way less problems than anything niche. Also as you said slower pace helps mitigate to a degree as the prediction can handle slower paced stuff it was trained on quite alright. I mostly felt it in beatsaber first but also anything from golf to tennis to tabletennis to shooting bows (reload from quiver fast with over head to behind the head motion part can be horrible at times and you simple don’t get an arrow) and games that makes your arms go to your sides or past an imaginary 45degree angled line from your forehead upwards. Also anything that makes you turn the controller sometimes while playing (backhand swings in an upwards outwards motion- for example beatsaber and boxing stuff partly- this (in contrast to the controllers of Q1 and Q2) makes the LEDs hard(er) to see for the headset because they are in the „faceplate“ rather than in the ring. The faster the motion the harder it gets for the cameras to separate the leds I think, especially in non ideal positions - in the rings (I have Q1 controllers here for direct comparisons) of older controllers there are 1. more LEDs and 2. they are placed further apart from one another and in a way more 3D dimensional array. This helped the cameras precisely detect even fast twisting and flipping motions easier and kept the LEDs or most of them in the cameras view even when twisting and turning or claw gripping the controller. My wife didn’t believe the Q1 was better for beatsaber than the Q3 - she doesn’t play beatsaber really and I let her side by side test both for 45 minutes before it was her finger pulling the trigger for the order of pro controllers with the comment of „nice backwards engineering Mark“ If you haven’t gotten a Quest 3 yet and are on the fence because of the controllers: I encourage you to get one. Play mostly slow story stuff in big titles and you’ll be fine. Just go in with the knowledge that as soon as you do something other than that and stumble into a scenario that the stock Q3 controllers and Q3 headset handle poorly as a combination you’ll have two options. 1: live with the tracking performance as it is and hope for updates that make the AI prediction faster and more precise for your edge case. 2. buy 300$ (for me it was 350€) pro controllers hating mark for the price tag, then connecting them and be done with the tracking problems topic as a hole.

[@thefunkydeep446]

I had more issues with losing headset tracking than controller tracking and also the grip buttons sometimes not registering clicks. Also climbing in Pop1 is a bit harder because it of grip and tracking above the head issues.

[@Frank-Y]

After installing v60 my climbing in pop1 is a little bit better.

[@WudiPlays]

I own 2 Quest 3 Headset and play sweat games like you. Both headaet are having serious tracking issues. Especially when playing Racket sport games... (im a lefty btw) But then i also see a lot of folks claiming they are not having any tracking issues. I often wonder could it be we just happen to recieved defective units? Im a bit puzzled because I purchased my headsets from 2 seperate retailer 2 weeks apart...

[@sixtacos]

Ever since the v56 and v57 update with Quest tracking has been all over the place. I saw some posts that even Quest Pro controller tracking isn't as good right now. If we had defective units, I think something like that should be recognizable for Meta. Halfway through the life cycle, if I still have problems, I will probably RMA. It's just good to see I'm not the only one with this issue. I tried low to bright settings, different lights, and even outside or my windows open. When I go back to Q2, it's night and day. Hopefully, it's a dataset problem in their algorithms changing, but if not, Quest 2 will still row the boat for me. You buying two headsets and both having issues is crazy.

[@WudiPlays]

@@sixtacos to be honest contemplating to get a 3rd one just to see if anything changes and exchange a few more times to see if is just unlucky defective units. Luckily got Meta insurance, and can exchange both current ones if they both happen to be defective units. And yes Quest 2 tracking was night and day better at least for the Racket Club VR which is the game I am mostly playing atm. Matter of fact Quest 3 tracking was so bad it made me quit the game for a few weeks before sucking it up, and changed my entire playstyle to compromise the trash Q3 tracking. Information in your vod about turning hand tracking off definitely was very helpful too.

[@Tw1stTech]

@@WudiPlayssee some of my replies to other comments - the lack of tracking quality for some games on Q3 is hardware caused and no update will ever fix the headset not being able to see the controller on some movements - sport games where your hands go behind your back / over your head will always suck with Q3

[@Gabriel.9l]

​@@Tw1stTech how is that? On quest 2 i have problems at launching granades over my head or using a bow because it lose tracking when the hand is on my chin or arround, same when aiming with a gun sometimes, that is the main reason i wanted to buy a quest 3 and now looking for videos about quest 3 tracking its even worse than quest 2?? The tracking in quest 2 was already bad for me smh

[@Tw1stTech]

@@Gabriel.9l if you have those problems then well yes pro controllers fix them in 99% of all cases. Multiple people I talked to hated using bows on quest 3 and bought pro controllers. After buying the pro they have no problems anymore

[@Ashquader]

Thank you ive been lookibg for this

[@StancedInertia9]

had my Q3 for about 2 weeks now. havent had any issues tracking. I 'm actually seeing a night and day difference on pavlov now compared to when I was on quest 2, my holster draw and target acquisition is worlds better.

[@siegekeebs]

I was really hoping that the quest 3 controllers would improve the tracking experience of the quest 2. I have the issue that you are complaining about with the quest 2 all the time playing FPS games. The left controller on the foregrip often loses tracking completely and just doesn't respond until the headset finds it again with the quest 2. If it's just a slight drift from the front controller, that sounds like an improvement still to me.

[@sixtacos]

I did have issues with Q2 but I pushed through. On Quest 3 I was playing Onward on Turbine and being the last one alive I went 17-1 as my KD. Only losing to my aiming being off for a full second. The controllers were in full view with lights making it entirely visible. It moments where you have to rely on tracking to be precise and it for some reason nopes out. I am a sweat and it really sucks to lose to something that is out of my control.

[@siegekeebs]

@@sixtacos unfortunately, nothing comes close to light house tracking if you really want precision.

[@sixtacos]

​@@siegekeebs Nothing really comes close to base station tracking but for Quest 2 it came extremely close. There is just a skill gap that you have to play into the strengths of what it does right and what doesn't work. I have been able to beat people with base station tracking a lot of times whether on Beat Saber or Onward. All I want is Quest 3 tracking to be on par with Quest 2 and better.

[@siegekeebs]

@@sixtacos Interesting, I find there to be a significant difference between Quest 2 and Base Station tracking. I would say that my index tracks maybe 50% better than Quest 2? Never loses tracking, no drift at all. It's easy to aim long distances vs quest 2 where it's almost impossible

[@sixtacos]

I guess with a topic like this, it really just comes down to different strokes for different folks. During COVID, I almost pulled the trigger on an Index and went with Quest 2 just because of delivery times. If you originally went with base tracking and then later on tried Quest 2, it's like going from a residential neighborhood to the projects.

[@MN-cr1fm]

My left Quest 3 Controller drift's as well in Less Mills Bodycombat. So I bought the Quest Pro Controllers to compete with my friends. First time 35min of playing they overheated 😂, so I sent it back. Now I ordered a new left Quest 3 Controller and now I watched your video 😅. Let you Guys know how it ends up!

[@Tw1stTech]

Agree 100%! I even compared my quest 1 directly to the 3 for hours to see if I was haluzinating. I wasn’t! The fact the cameras are centered instead of in the corners makes the tracking go bad on overhead and far out swings in every game - beatsaber especially! I can full combo 6 nps songs on the quest 1 easily and with the same motion pattern the quest 3 easily has at least 3-4 random „Misses“ on the same song. I bit the bullet and bought myself the pro controllers cause nothing was fun with that sort of random errors. The pro controllers fixed the problem and track better than ANY inside out tracking ever (obviously self-Tracking is superior) and come really! close to outside-in tracking with very expensive and deliberate lighthouse setups. Price and internal batterie are of course kinda sad downsides

[@timpe-]

I'm also not liking the tracking of the Q3 at all, which I notice especially in Beat Saber. It's incredibly frustrating as I was expecting an upgrade from the Q2... I'm actually considering investing in Pro Controllers, so I'm wondering if anyone has experience with those? Do they perform noticeably better?

[@sixtacos]

A lot of people have said the Pro controllers are way better but I don't think I have seen a top player that mains on Quest say they are the obvious upgrade.

[@Tw1stTech]

They are the obvious upgrade! I bought them especially because Beat Saber SUCKED with the Q3 controllers. I am 2 meters tall and so bringing the Q3 controllers out of the Q3s camera vision is VERY common for me in BS. Bought the pros and have never been this consistently the same level in BS before

[@A1DroneServices]

@@Tw1stTechthank you, this is the comment I’ve been scouring the internet for. So many people are just outright saying there isn’t a problem with the tracking is drowning out the voices of the people who are genuinely frustrated and notice a difference! I think I’m going to pull the trigger on the pro controllers

[@Tw1stTech]

@@A1DroneServices hey 👋🏻 just had the same conversation topic in a German Quest FB group. I can only encourage you to pull the trigger. It hurts once but then you will be relieved once you feel the difference. I tested back to back on multiple songs and the difference is so easy to tell it’s jarring. There is swings I simply can’t hit even 8/10 consistently with Q3 controllers but I easily do them 10/10 with the pro.

[@A1DroneServices]

@@Tw1stTech​​⁠​⁠ordered and will have them tonight! Thank you! I’ve been second guessing myself with Beat saber but my daughter finally tried it out and she noticed it as well. I’m loving dungeons of eternity (using a bow) but im missing a lot of shots because of these controllers. Thanks so much! To you and to @sixtacos for the video, I don’t feel crazy anymore 🤣

[@CommentsAllowed]

WIN Reality is extremely frustrating with the Quest 3. I thought it was just game/app problem, but it sounds like it might be a bigger issue with the controller tracking. I assumed Quest 3 would be better because of the faster processor and more advanced tracking techniques. I have yet to try the Quest 2, or turning off hand tracking. It makes sense though based on what you mentioned. The games that have the most issue are the ones with fast movement, especially swinging the controller outside of view and back into view. Tennis and Baseball are like this. The time it takes to acquire correct controller positioning really matters in those games. We are probably talking 60ms for a 90 MPH fast ball. The controller/bat is trackable to when it needs to hit the ball, is 60ms or less.

[@sixtacos]

Yeah, still holds up a year later. Quest 3 leaning more on relying on computer vision/machine learning tracking techniques compared to Quest 2's IR-tracked system is a compromise for fast-movement games. Quest 3, is better for productivity/ergonomics with removing the tracking rings, but it's a compromise. I also like my fair share of baseball, and a game like Totally Baseball when hitting a pitch with Quest 3 sort of feels awkward. Leading up to the hit the ball with the IMU sensor + tracking algorithms Quest 3 delivers pretty good estimations, but in quick sudden movement, it begins to fall apart. Estimations can only be so accurate until it has to result to the IR sensors to align with the user. I doubt Meta's engineers oversaw this and it might be a first-gen controller compromise they took to make Quest the jack of all trades value-wise.

[@CommentsAllowed]

@@sixtacos I am buying myself a Quest 2 for the sole purpose of playing WIN Reality. Or at least to see if it fixes the issues I'm having. The biggest issue is that using a bat attachment further places the controller up, behind and away from your head. This seems to put the controller is a massive dead zone for the Quest 3 headset tracking. It works a little bit better if you have the controllers in your hand (but that ruins the experience of hold a baseball bat). From what I found (there is a reddit post), the Quest 2 camera positions on top are what makes the tracking better. And like you said, the Quest 3 is basically trying to predict controller positions above the head.

[@hubbler253]

I recently slammed my controller into the table and now it’s spazzing, like it doesn’t track.

[@XeCuTo]

Do you think there is a possibility to patch this, or should i sell my q3 and buy a q2 ?..just want to play bs

[@firehazardfox159]

Maybe meta could release an update where you can connect the quest 2 controllers to the quest 3

[@VioletAnimatesVR]

I’m a gorilla tag player on quest 3 and I think my controllers are broken, the tracking isn’t just bad. It’s getting worse the more I play, and the tracking is so bad when I run or do any skill my controllers just fly away and I get tagged instantly.

[@ИльяГ-ю5п]

Do you think they will fix it, or will tracking be worse than on Q2 forever because of the removed rings? I ask because Q3 is on a sale in my country right now.

[@sixtacos]

At launch, I wasn't hopeful for a fix but seeing that a lot of the time the left controller is mostly the problem for me I'm hopeful it can be fixed in due time. For casual gaming, you should be fine but a Quest 2 is a better fitness machine for me due to the better tracking in fast movements. Meta still has a lot of eggs in the VR basket, so I'm hopeful they improve the tracking. Then again, it's better to judge the headset on what it is currently whether that is what it could be looking at PSVR2 users. However, the Q3 lenses are great whether using a standalone or PCVR. I'm a nerd, so I would get it with a sale even better. Going from Q2 blurriness to Q3 sharp lenses it's some of the best money I've spent. If you no life Beat Saber Q2 is the better option, but story games like Asgards Wrath 2 that come with the Q3 headset are amazing. It showcases the future of standalone VR gaming.

[@ИльяГ-ю5п]

​@@sixtacos OK, thank you. I really like to play BS mostly. I play on Expert (not plus) mostly but sometimes try E+ too. So I think I should stay with Q2. I had Pico 4 before Q2 and I know how pancake lenses are some much better than fresnel ones. So I subscribed and will wait news from you about tracking on Q3. Thanks for the content.

[@dybukmalpa]

I think after updates controller tracking got worse. Fresh from the box month ago everything worked fine.

[@YouListenToMeNow]

Funny thing... Im left handed and for me, right controller causes most problems... Does anyone know if its possible to pair Q2 contelllers with Q3 headset... Because i do concider extra purchase...

[@ljgtag]

10 months later, still cant do a mid ahh run in gtag without instant tracking loss 👍

[@Zean_Luke]

Man i allready saw my setup in yours i have quest2 and those edifier speakers tell me your monitor is also AOC ill go crazy ;p

[@sixtacos]

I got LG monitors. But frfr those speakers go crazy and to think of it I was about to get cheap Logitech speakers too.

[@truettbryan1265]

I bought the quest 3 but, I can't play gorilla tag cause it just jumps all over the place

[@zouanebou]

to fix the problem disable hand tracking

[@martychojnacki7866]

My quest 3 stopped working in less than a month. Refunded it.

[@sixtacos]

Damn any clue what caused it

[@truettbryan1265]

I just bought the quest 3 an the tracking glitches out when I play gorilla tag. I wish they still had a ring or a ring accesory.

[@sixtacos]

Exactly. An extra tracking accessory that helps for fast movement gameplay at the cost of less battery life would fix it. But, then lowkey Meta would be admitting that Quest 3 tracking isn't 1 for 1 as its older headsets. My Beat Saber playtime since Quest 3 has gone down like 98% 😭

[@GameOfGroans]

I'm having issues with my right controller, when playing les mills in particular. Playing slower games seem fine but when it comes to any fast active games i definitely see worse tracking than quest 2. Disappointing as i love the quest 3 otherwise.

[@sixtacos]

Yep, still on the same boat

[@azar5255]

my quest 3 is the best thing ever. yes i use it with the original straps and it is good as it is. yeah battery life too. i love it.

[@tyrantlemon]

Why does it sound like you recorded every three words separately

[@sixtacos]

😂

[@dharkbizkit]

i wishe there was a quest 3 max or quest 3 pro. higher res, to get rid of SDE, say like 2560x2560, display port connection and eyetracking for ~400 bucks upprice.

[@Alveix]

My quest 3 left controller just stopped tracking completely, idk how to fix it

[@sixtacos]

Dead battery?

[@Alveix]

@@sixtacos Nope 100% and it wont work, just a wast of battery

[@ztcom]

Tracking sucks in quest3 if i want a good tracking for competitive stuff i ratter use my pico4 instead the quest3, quest 3 tracking vs quest 2, pico 4, quest pro, reverb g3, quest 3 tracking is the worst... Seems im not the only one that thinks this...

[@artrag1]

Quest 3 has terrible controllers. In death unchained is almost unplayable on Quest 3! Accuracy is much lower, moreover the bow sticks in the air randomly.

[@sixtacos]

Yeah, I was going to upload a review and comparison of Death Unchained with the Q3 upgrade. Kind of to the point where its unplayable if I try to shoot arrows to fast as the controllers drift everywhere.

[@Lights001]

this guy is wrong because the tracking on both online controllers is literally wonky it thinks the controller is not there but it's there when I turn on hand tracking both of my hands is not there but when I restart my headset my controllers are there but it has the wrong tracking quest three is better

[@kiwix7107]

I play bodycombat a lot, I can safely say that tracking has gotten better than q2. Particularly noticeable on corner targets. Firmware v59.