Wait...This is a Commander?!? | Grist, the Hunger Tide | Modern Horizons 2 Spoiler | EDH | MTG

[@doors54]

Great commander for wayfarer’s bauble.

[@curtisn.9486]

Did you say “every commander”

[@doors54]

@@curtisn.9486 yes

[@WayfarersBauble]

^ They get it.

[@thanalincoln]

^ They get it.

[@Solrex_the_Sun_King]

I feel like you didn’t even watch the video to comment this.

[@Morchunkis]

So outside of the battlefield, this cards type line reads “Legendary Planeswalker Creature - Grist Insect”

[@VirtuesOfSin]

Yes

[@TheGrifcannon22]

So many things you can do with this commander being a creature in all other zones.

[@mitrimind1027]

Yes like being able to reanimate from the graveyard.

[@Gameflyer001]

@@mitrimind1027 Or tutor it from your deck via a creature tutoring spell.

[@rhombodazzle9700]

Umori creature only companion lol

[@Gameflyer001]

@@rhombodazzle9700 in Commander, you can't really run a companion unless it is part of the 99 cards (not incl your commander).

[@rhombodazzle9700]

Each Commander deck may include a chosen companion. It starts outside the game and doesn't count as one of your 100 cards. Just like the rest of your deck, your commander must follow the deck-building rule if you're going to use a companion. This is from arena support

[@Lowelo860]

The rules committee: Planeswalkers can't be Commanders Wizards: Reality can be whatever I want

[@josuanachname1914]

Maybe that's why they are called wizards?

[@Fireo0]

Sad you didn't mention it for Meren in the 99. She can recur him as he is a creature in the graveyard and his abilities synergize quite well with her.

[@Full-of-Heck]

Going in my lower tier Meren build. If it impressed me, I'll put it in my higher tier one

[@shekki3192]

This, only thing meren doesn't like is insect synergy. But mill? Yes pls, more creatures to graveyard plus token for other synergies. Sacc and remove? We get exprience and remove stuff. Dmg to all opponents? Meren usually runs several mill cards anyway so it's free dmg or finisher. All that with.. 3 mana.

[@jua3000]

@@shekki3192 you say that but Meren is in love with Caustic Caterpillar

[@smartymarty2351]

Yes. And this means Meren can bring it back with 3 XP+ counters because it's a creature, yes? So it's a recurring PW? That's crazy.

[@jaradkane6947]

Facts

[@DBanner16]

Grist is also great in a Nethroi deck - when Nethroi mutates he can reanimate Grist, which only counts as 1 power towards the 10

[@cheddargobIin]

You got to respect Mitch’s content output during spoiler season.

[@gravitysloths5127]

Funny enough, the static ability kinda makes it like a reverse gideon, instead of the pw turning into a creature, he's a creature that becomes a PW on the battlefield.

[@thesleepershark4265]

Modern Horizons 2 gets more & more weird and wacky, and definitely broken.

[@DimT670]

@jason rustmann cranky because wotc makes cards you dont like huh? Seriously the craps over existing lore argument is extra hilarious because literally all the characters in mh2 are from the old lore Also you do realise that the secondary market gets their cards from wizards right? They don't conjure em out of the ether 😂

[@RagingRevine]

@@DimT670 No, people are cranky because they are power creeping the fuck out of EDH and prices are getting super out of hand. product lines are 300+ $$ for boxes and other supplies. In turn causing the secondary market to explode and put 10$ cards up to 50$ cards.

[@Frostgiantbutsmall]

@@afspeellijstnaruto It's because while there isn't an "official" MSRP, WOTC still sells them on Amazon for $300. They're utilizing a potential legal loophole in case they ever get sued over the reserved list, while also maximizing profits. Yay.

[@DimT670]

@@RagingRevine you... Can't powercreep edh??? Its a casual format. Literally no one is forcing you to play any cards in order tp stay competitive or smth. If you play in a consistent powrr level you like with cards you like what wizards prints has literally no impact on you. If you want the latest and best thing, thats a you problem not wizards And there are no 10 dollar cards or 50 dollar cards, the people decide how much the cards cost, they don't have any inherent value, they are pieces of cardboard. I mean this channel literally made a 10 cent common a 3 dollar card singlehandedly And Mh 2 costs as much as any other premium set, scalpers or game shops or amazon selling product more expensively based on suppky and demand isn't a new thing, its been the case always, msrp or not

[@RagingRevine]

@@DimT670 You can powercreep EDH. If you're playing at your shop and the formats filled with better and more OP cards...people are gonna play those cards. People will invest in better cards. Fetchlands, free counterspells etc etc. It's just the way the game goes. So unless you're playing at a kitchen table, you're gonna feel it. You have to understand that EDH has gotten huge. Even years before some places played as a competitive format, that's why we had the french ban lists for 1v1 and what not or just point systems. When Wizards is printing powerful cards meant for EDH and charging premium prices aka decks go from 30-50$, you notice the change. Boxes are made for the format now with EDH in mind. Those ''premium'' prices before are becoming the ''usual'' price now.

[@paytonmiller768]

Now I need to make a 5 color Mairsil the Pretender deck just so I can exile this with a cage counter on it and do very confusing rules things.

[@Ariemius]

lol I love the idea of a deck full of cards that they had to change the rules to account for. since the had to do the same for mairsil. now we just need a 5 color who broke the game once upon a time

[@Ariemius]

@@XCodes true but at least he isn't a Planeswalker so he doesn't die from not having any loyalty

[@AhranMaoDante]

@@Ariemius How about a new 5c commander that might break the game and will be confusing for some people? Introducing Garth.

[@kaba9926]

secret tech : 80+ insects, 20 lands, mulligan until 3 lands in hand. T3 Grist, +1, enjoy

[@DimT670]

The thing about the rule applying during deck construction is actually super important and not only for commander. Its also for stuff like companions. You cant have lurrus as your companion with this in the deck for example. And for wishes. Can't wish for this as a non creature for example. Thats why the new rule will be put in place , not specifically for commander

[@user-qn1up8ml6t]

Mortuary allows to put haunted cross roads for 1 mana allows you to put a creature on top of your library, with phyrexian altar. you can sacrifice the insect made in order to gain a black mana and pay for haunted cross roads activated ability in order to put an insect creature back on top therefore causing a infinite etb and ltb combo

[@ghost64626]

"If you have $50 hanging around you can use doubling season" AH, if only it was that cheap

[@Lowelo860]

I mean my printer says otherwise

[@arthurpotter9092]

@@Lowelo860 Wow! What an idea! Why didn't I think of copyright infringement!

[@steveneaddy5298]

@@arthurpotter9092 it’s only copyright infringement if you try to profit from it

[@FumeStar]

@@arthurpotter9092 have you not heard of proxies? Sheesh that was a bad hot take

[@infinitedm5396]

@@steveneaddy5298 this is technically false. You don't need to profit for IP infringement. Lack of profit usually means a company won't really pursue litigation because they need to prove damages or something else.

[@HiroZeroVirus]

conspiracy could put in a ton of leg work here, life and limb also with it could also help rip through a deck

[@milltary64vs5]

Pardon my french but how tf is Life and Limb gonna help? The deck has nothing to do with sapporlings

[@HiroZeroVirus]

@@milltary64vs5 if you use conspiracy naming saproling, then creatures are now forests,

[@HiroZeroVirus]

Whoops sorry, wrong video, someone else pointed out that even though the wording is vague enough, life and limb doesn’t effect lands that are not on the battlefield. But if it did, choose insect with conspiracy, and then every land you mill, would have also been an insect

[@milltary64vs5]

@@HiroZeroVirus i see now...

[@Rein_Kun]

You could also run Maskwood Nexus and Conspiracy to make all of your creatures into insects, letting you mill more with Grist's +1 without having to run that many insects

[@borrowedbraincell8992]

I just finished watching your last video on this one came out perfect timing

[@johnstarinieri7360]

Between this beauty and Blex, Vexing Pest, my insect tribal deck is finally getting some love from Wizards!

[@Case2_0]

Finally, I can make my spicy boi deck

[@Zendrig]

What was R&D smoking when they came up with that first ability?

[@jasonkorf7700]

A way to get around the Planeswalkers can't be Commander unless stated otherwise rule.

[@Fredrik_RS]

@@jasonkorf7700 and/or or a way of letting you search your library for them with creature search cards

[@seanduncan9722]

@@Fredrik_RS this is the real reason

[@jasonkorf7700]

@@Fredrik_RS Yep, along with reanimating them as creatures. Can't wait for turn one Entomb Grist. Turn two Reanimate or Animate Dead Grist.

[@calemr]

@@Fredrik_RS Also so it's +1 triggers if you're running multiple and mill a Grist.

[@RaunienTheFirst]

Mitch: posts a video KZbin, 3 days later: now seems like a good time to give a notification.

[@nicholasiverson9784]

Whoah I haven't kept up on Magic over the years, but I remember reading about Garth One-Eye in Arena, was a fantastic novel that took place in the magic universe haha - each of the colors of magic had a guild in his home town - 4 of the guilds decided to take out the 5th and massacred them all, except for Garth, who escaped and went out into the world. Years later, a tournament is being held among the 4 (remaining) guilds which he enters, the way the book describes the magic battles is Fantastic. There's a twist at the end I don't want to spoil, but it's a good one.

[@dracosfire7247]

I love being able to Essence Scatter this planeswalker lol

[@ThePblocker]

On the flip side, it dodges Negate and Force of Negation.

[@dlion0734]

Wow, zero likes zero views, zero comments. I've never felt so very very special lol

[@grzybiarz5624]

Finally! I can build my second Jarad deck without Jarad being a commander!

[@hellionimmortis9362]

Coming back to this video because I built a $50 budget Grist deck recently. The commander is absolutely insane, and the deck wins through attrition. Managed to fit some high cost cards in like Vraska, Golgari Queen and Phyrexian Swarmlord. Played 5 or so 1v1 games against Fynn, Killian, and Dihada, and only lost once to Fynn. My opponent had to kill Grist 3 times that game just to be able to win. And since it's budget, I have ample opportunity to pour more money into it for upgrades, which Doubling Season is definitely one thing I'll be putting in, along with some good dual lands, and my personal touch of Ulamog, Infinite Gyre or Elixir of Immortality.

[@samuraicupcake289]

Fun fact : you can bring him back with Call of the Death-Dweller and give him menace and deathtouch.

[@gabrielwingue]

The first ability SEEMED intuitive enough to me because it would be a creature in the Command Zone and Legendary Creatures in the Command Zone are your commander(s).

[@VIISkies]

Inverter of Truth is also fantastic for Grist. Also, Gravepurge effects serve dual purpose in this deck; they set up a crazy +1 activation *and* they can save your graveyard from grave hate.

[@treethegreat52890]

This will easily be in my Blex deck i just built. It's all about pests and insect. I absolutely love this card!!!

[@davidanderson9967]

I immediately thought of all the 3 costing sorcery or instants that put creatures on top of your library from the graveyard.

[@Giga-lemesh]

There is at least one other situation in which it matters if Grist is a creature during deck construction, that is if you are making a deck with Umori the collector as your companion. It’s companion condition is only one type of non land card in the deck, so if you choose to put in creatures, it does matter whether grist is a creature during deck construction

[@nicholaslinton6540]

That’s wild, but at least I can meme with insect tribal with it.

[@braddtheodd3390]

That also makes it work with Umori as your Companion. (Choosing either "Only Creatures" or "Only Planeswalkers". Kinda useless, but there it is)

[@heroikkbean]

That's an odd way of saying "If you don't have $50 lying around, you can always proxy Doubling Season"

[@carljarrett2837]

I think this would work well in the 99 of a Kathril deck

[@Nvenom8.]

It definitely makes sense that abilities function during deck construction. That's the only reason Relentless Rats and the like work.

[@darklordrowan6152]

If they ever make relentless insect cards this would be a great commander for it.

[@harrisonheppelmann7938]

There doesn’t even need to be a new rule. There are already specific rules for game setup, which is where you get a life total, shuffle, draw opening hands, resolve mulligans (hence official mulligan rules) and present pre-game actions. In commander, part of that is removing your commander from your deck (where Grist is a creature) and moving it to the command zone (where Grist is also a creature). Because it meets all criteria (legendary creature that is not a banned card and has color identity of all combined color identities of all card in your deck) during the game setup phase, it is a legal commander.

[@SnekFangz]

I should maybe mention Maskwood nexus which gives All our creatures everywhere have changeling

[@darknova000]

This planeswalker also works well in the 99 of Savra, Queen of the Golgari. It makes 1/1 black insects which are good for sacrificing on her ability.

[@dugdig5745]

Hoping for a bauble reprint

[@Clepto_and_Co]

It's gonna go in the 99 of my nethroi deck. It works so well with nethroi, similar to muldrotha. It gives me cards to reanimate, gives nethroi a mutate target in an emergency, can be reanimated by nethroi, and it's -2 is just a better attrition. There's also a bunch of other cool interactions like fauna shaman, birthing pod, revialark, meren, and even Nissa of Shadowed Boughs Incase you need a Planeswalker with 2 +1/+1 counters. The insects even benefit from gavony township.

[@ErasMcras]

For a more sac based strategy with insects mazirek is a insect and happen to be good with sac and swarm strategies.

[@SYST3MGL1TCH]

Any card with a gravepurge like effect would be a good way to guarantee loyalty counters are going to add up.

[@millenium1109]

How does Blex interact with Changelings? They are all creature types, so does he buff them multiple times or only once? Also, Maskwood Nexus with this Commander seems really strong since it could let you slip in creatures that aren't insects. And possibly make Blex OP.

[@thayersportfolio8866]

If Blex’s +1/+1 was a separate sentence for each creature type, it would stack. Since it’s one sentence, it gives +1/+1 to each creature you control that’s at least one of those things.

[@johnsulik6754]

It's only one instance of the pump. Creatures with multiple of the types will still only get +1/+1

[@millenium1109]

@@thayersportfolio8866 Thanks!

[@9998Fabi]

Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider and Deadbridge Chant aswell as Nyx Weaver could also be quite ncie with the +1 ability... especially after casting one of the return creature spells... it would be such an exposive turn...

[@SrgBlackhawk]

Thanks for Showing me this Commander! Its as always a great Video and you showed me one of my new MOST FAVORITE Commanders

[@Devn8tr]

My first thought were conspiracy or hermit Druid as an enabler, but those mass mill/draw effects work similar to the Druid. Conspiracy could be funny if you could get away with a very creature heavy deck

[@simondiamond9628]

Conspiracy, Ashes of the Fallen, and Maskwood Nexus make for decent additions here. So would Mesmeric Orb + Basalt Monolith, as long as you had an Eldrazi Titan in the deck. (Mill, reshuffle, and repeat until you hit every creature except for your titan, and then pop Grist's Ult.) Cavern of Souls is also kinda funny with Grist. Expensive, but funny.

[@RelicSeeker]

This looks really good in a Nethroi, Apex of Death deck. Grab it with his mutate ability, then use the -2 ability to answer a threat

[@anikiikardia8279]

Lore question. Is he an insect hive mind with a spark or a lich Planeswalker who distributed his soul among a swarm?

[@quinngaworecki9787]

I pulled a Grist and didn’t even know what to think about it before I watched this video of course

[@NerdByAnyOtherName]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Mitch misspoke when he was talking about how the +1 on this card works. He said that Grist gains another loyalty each time the ability loops, but I am reasonably sure the loyalty gain occurs as part of the cost of the ability, and thus isn't repeated.

[@Pascal-eu2oe]

The effect also says to put a counter on him. So it will put one on for every loop.

[@NerdByAnyOtherName]

@@Pascal-eu2oe Oh, I missed that, thx

[@douglima8344]

I didn't think this was confusing, I understood that it was a creature outside the game immediately because for the game, "everything else is part of the game, just outside of it" So this is considered a creature even if forgotten inside an old shoe box. But then a friend of mine said that if this is true, then the Gods should not be creatures outside of the field, and I agree. So there should be a light errata in the gods adding: "while on the battlefield" after the devotion condition

[@Giga-lemesh]

Izoni thousand eyed works great with grist. She has undergrowth create an insect for each creature card in your graveyard

[@richardflorianjr3899]

Morality shift would be a fast way to fill the graveyard but also risky

[@joshuiadloehr9897]

Maybe I missed it but I don't think you mentioned [NANTUKO HUSK] also an insect and loves to eat tokens. Husk also pairs well with [MORTICIAN BEETLE] and [EREBOS, BLEAK-HEARTED]. Have fun!

[@Deken2010]

I just ordered my box last night. So ready for this crazy set!

[@MetaDiscussions]

That intro, what a great play on words!

[@darkmagiks3605]

Somebody remind Mitch about Necrotic Ooze and Ashes of the Fallen. Ashes can make everything in the yard an insect(same for conspiracy but just for graveyard) as for the ooze grist is a creature in your yard with activated abilities that Necrotic ooze can abuse =D

[@3ftninja132]

Wizards dont care anymore. They forgot to put "Can be your commander" on the card and have SO much ego that they won't admit it.

[@nickatwork]

keep in mind you could always use the other side of Blex to self mill

[@AxillaryPower2]

Does this upcoming "can be your commander so long as it's a Creature in the command zone, even if the card type isn't Creature" rule have any knock on effects for any other cards in the Magic catalogue? Like some old obscure card that no one has thought about for years?

[@babassoonist557]

You will all live in FEAR of my Grist + Chain Veil insect tribal deck. Also I feel like this needs to be mentioned, but this is a pretty dope reanimated target

[@johnbaird6752]

I like it in Glissa, that deck wants to mill and kill stuff as well as reanimate, might be worth a slot if it's budget

[@ryanstewart5727]

I'm less enthralled with the idea of this being my commander and much more interested in the fact that this is a valid target for reanimation.

[@jakgaiastone5081]

I really hope to see a full commander deck tech on this commander. I really wanna know how far we can take this one and I wanna use it against my friends.

[@yungo1rst]

devouring swarm could be decent for when the deck goes off on third or fourth turn at earliest. haunting voyage would be great late game if you can protect your graveyard. crippling fear can help control the board for you. descendants' path would be great if it were a few times cheaper.

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

So essentially it's akin to the Theros Gods rule, where they are Creatures in all zones except for the Battlefield unless their devotion is met. For example, if I have Iroas, God of Victory in my graveyard and I cast Open the Vaults, yes Iroas is an Enchantment and so therefore yes Iroas comes back to the battlefield. Likewise, if I have Mogis, God of Slaughter in my graveyard, I can legally target it with Animate Dead and return Mogis from the graveyard to the battlefield, where then some janky hanky-panky happens. Essentially, if devotion on Mogis is not met, Animate Dead falls off. If Animate Dead falls off, it takes the creature with it. But if Mogis isn't a creature, Mogis stays. Essentially, it's mechanically similar to how devotion works for the Gods. If a requirement is met, it is a creature. In the case of the Gods, it's devotion on the battlefield. For Grist, it's being anywhere BUT the battlefield. So he's a creature in your hand, in the library, in the graveyard, on the stack, in exile and yes - in your command zone.

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

So yes, the spell Remove Soul (1)(U): Counter target creature spell - definitely counters Grist. Grist is a creature while on the stack. Therefore, he's a viable and legal target.

[@BlackBeastOfAhg]

Please tell me I am not the only ones that noticed Zurdi's Survival rule 781 and 782 are the same? I wonder if that was done on purpose or not.

[@heliosretro4545]

NOTIFICATION GANG, ARISE

[@Anew522]

I'm definitely not using Grist in my Atraxa Superfriends deck, but if I build the Grist deck I could try mixing them a little at some point.

[@aa-tx7th]

"if it says 'it can be your commander' it can be your commander." what a f!cking sage

[@Psil33t]

What other cards would you recommend for dumping all the critters into your grave other than peer into the abyss?

[@stygiansage2661]

I picked doubling season up before Planeswalkers were a thing.

[@TheHandsomestMale]

The card says what it is outside of the battlefield right on the ability, I feel that the text is being overcomplicated, especially when there are other cards that have rules text that applies to zones other than the battlefield.

[@roboticpegasus3303]

When Lotleth giant becomes a planeswalker

[@Zouzk]

Can use it with Protean Hulk and Glowscape Skate

[@geffenwaterman1766]

There are so many commanders I want to build around in this set

[@nik3643]

Conspiracy (Mercadian Masques) is a great addition

[@LaffyWaffy89]

Me I would throw in a chain veil in deck to use grist -5 once u have enough loyalty counters on it from +1 and enough insects in graveyard to 1 hit people

[@docmatt1]

I'm looking forward to putting this in my llanowar abomination deck! Its got a decent amount of changlings and cares about putting creatures into the graveyard for value.

[@johannes1858]

Grist works well also in the 99 with Nethroi as your commander

[@jonathancarlisle7898]

Forever Young, Gravepurge and Footbottom Feast also go great in my Anje deck

[@alexgossett4349]

Rally looking forward to this in Nethroi apex of death!

[@bradlewis261]

Have you seen the new 1 drop Modular-focused General?

[@moocow17]

maskwood nexus makes all your creatures in your deck all creature types have fun!

[@kingtogwaggle5868]

who makes your varius playmat arts? they look fabulous!

[@trevorstammler]

I’d go with mass insect reanimator. It looks decently budget too, since they’re reprinting patriarchs bidding. Probably can make a good deck in the $75-100 range. Even $50 doesnt sound too far fetched.

[@ErasMcras]

My first thought is that I want an alter of this that as Bela Dimitrescu.

[@pupper7554]

Never realized they missed up the flavor text between scute mob and scute swarm. They couldn’t have looked up the card?

[@ezequielortiz6085]

I think it was done intentionally for humor

[@memelorddavid2938]

Ohhh wow!!! I was like, ok even of it could be a commander you gotta get ALOT of creatures basicly the whole deck into the graveyard and lands stop the first part BUT this actually WORKS! I like it!

[@gabejuhasz3743]

why does the effect changeling work every including in your graveyard and deck, and effects like "pay 5 life: return this creature from the graveyard to play" work if your normally not allowed to activate creatures effects unless they are in play?

[@alicetheaxolotl]

Changeling is essentially just telling you that it's every type, instead of them having to list every single card type on the card. As for the second example: Effects take priority over rules. It's the same reason a deathtouch creature doesn't need to reduce toughness to 0 or why something with Vigilance doesn't tap when attacking.

[@makeupartisttobe]

I think I heard that any plainswalker can be your commander these days about a year ago. Thanks to MTG Arena's ability to put any planeswalker as Brawl commander(it's Commander deck version) in deck. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@ixchel3330]

You can have a plainswalker as a commander in brawl but not in commander(except grist and any plainswalker that says it can be your commander)

[@makeupartisttobe]

@@ixchel3330 Ah... Thanks from clearing things out.

[@MageSkeleton]

right, so if you never see or gain The Chain Veil nor the mana to cast both it and Grist on top of needing a "clump" of insect creatures (about 40 of them) in your graveyard to then use Grist's ult to win the game. Just feels like another "chance deck".

[@dariocampanella7992]

wozy is trying to find ways to have planewalkers in your commandzonde without saying "can be your commander" because it is a little clunky and I guess it breaks the immersion is like having un uncommon that says " you can play it in pauper"

[@extremehauntergaming_]

tho actually it has self-synergy for its +1

[@einamune]

This is real interesting with Necrotic Ooze

[@RaptorBlade]

Conspiracy + Shadowborn Apostle = a lot of insects

[@bartoffer]

Does this work with Ashes of the Fallen? If it checks the creature type once it hits the grave, this hitherto nearly-useless kamigawa card could allow him to chain on all your creatures. But if it checks only when the card is still in the deck, it wouldn't work.

[@blopshth4096]

It took me two days before realization hit and i googled if it could be a commander...