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Chris and Karen discuss why it defies logic to demolish 1122 King Road in Moscow, Idaho where the four university students were killed before the trial. This is a segment from another video.
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@wildcherry2959
@wildcherry2959 Жыл бұрын
As a parent, I would want to see the college stand behind the parents, and do whatever it takes to secure a prosecution. I wouldn't send my child to a school that didn't stand up and fight for the students that lost their lives
@bunnyheywood
@bunnyheywood Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@dianepini824
@dianepini824 Жыл бұрын
Why isn’t the prosecutor objecting?
@RubyRed77
@RubyRed77 Жыл бұрын
Why would he?
@Jem253
@Jem253 Жыл бұрын
If I was a juror on this trial, I would want to see the inside of the house to get the idea of what this perp needed to know before going in.
@marymartins1533
@marymartins1533 Жыл бұрын
Chris I agree with you and Karen 💯 It makes no sense that they demolish that house now . What’s the hurry so strange !!!
@lucylucy9945
@lucylucy9945 Жыл бұрын
What's the hurry? $$$
@debbiepolinski4454
@debbiepolinski4454 Жыл бұрын
I agree completely! It’s almost as if they are hiding evidence. This house is the best evidence they have!
@franciswood9423
@franciswood9423 Жыл бұрын
The house needs to stand at this point. Tear it down after the trial. Judge Judge needs to step up and rule on this.
@paulabuck5976
@paulabuck5976 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@suebrubaker6182
@suebrubaker6182 Жыл бұрын
I have said since Day #1 that they need to leave it until the trial is over.
@pennyc11
@pennyc11 Жыл бұрын
I agree. People are saying there could be a civil suit to follow the trial. Stuff happens in life that cannot be erased. Do not remove the house yet. There is a debate on how he entered the house. Why he avoided a part of the house. How he exited it. Again, strange build to begin with.
@michelesmith3143
@michelesmith3143 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree! That house should ABSOLUTELY NOT be demolished!
@darlenemclain8
@darlenemclain8 Жыл бұрын
For justice due to the victims, Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Xana, leave it till after the trial, that's my opinion. Prayers and hugs for their family and friends ❤
@LaCoda73
@LaCoda73 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with you both on this topic. Nothing compares to being able to experience those sounds, etc in person and not via video. It’s owed to the victims and their families. Do the right thing here Idaho.
@cfil7970
@cfil7970 Жыл бұрын
Destroying the home before justice is served will not help the university images if this crime is never solved! So just be patient as this truly a virtue.
@AlwaysHalloween000
@AlwaysHalloween000 Жыл бұрын
This crime will be solved to an absolute,undisputed 100% certainty. By this time next year Kohberger will be sitting on Idaho's death row
@kolove17
@kolove17 Жыл бұрын
I could not agree with you more. The University will not improve its image by destroying the house. If anything it'll remind people of schools betrayal of the students.
@4spikers
@4spikers Жыл бұрын
Way to go, Chris and Caren! Damn right, it is their story!... Keep flooding the airways until the University of Idaho makes a statement they will not destroy/alter the house until after the trial!
@Loyaltoafault210
@Loyaltoafault210 Жыл бұрын
It makes zero sense why they are wanting to destroy the house. Imo unless the university maybe has something to hide.
@sonjo2419
@sonjo2419 Жыл бұрын
Great attitude. Every word Chris. I’m hoping something will happen to stop this. Thanks
@lucylucy9945
@lucylucy9945 Жыл бұрын
Since day one of hearing the "house " plans that was My answer also! $$$ Shame Shame, that decision by the Board or whoever is what will destroy that college!
@rosekinnison4724
@rosekinnison4724 Жыл бұрын
Well said Chris
@Lisa...L
@Lisa...L Жыл бұрын
Wait until after the trial
@josiecardenas4440
@josiecardenas4440 Жыл бұрын
Tearing down the house will not help . I agree with Chris wait until after the trial . Thanks Chris for all you do .
@wendyhenschel.
@wendyhenschel. Жыл бұрын
I agree. Evidence should not be destroyed till after the trial
@Sherinthia7
@Sherinthia7 Жыл бұрын
Amen Chris and Karen! That house absolutely needs to stay up, even if the jury doesn’t go inside. Spacial relevance and sound!
@mfinn7880
@mfinn7880 Жыл бұрын
Correct and right Chris and Karen, well said. 💯 ✅️
@enick7955
@enick7955 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I always asked myself what is in for the University. 👍
@carolerice9596
@carolerice9596 Жыл бұрын
The house should not be torn down. I totally agree with you and Karen. Take it down after the trial.❤❤
@bevgipson2056
@bevgipson2056 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for advocating for the victims. You and Karen are the best!
@fairyprincess911
@fairyprincess911 Жыл бұрын
The house is evidence and should be preserved until the case is adjudicated and until all appeals are exhausted. It’s fair to all parties.
@Mamasaurusbear64
@Mamasaurusbear64 Жыл бұрын
I personally think there's pressure coming from a financial Donation board.
@AliJaeJR
@AliJaeJR Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, 4am visit to the home... it will put so much in perspective...
@mwloos1
@mwloos1 Жыл бұрын
Dahmers apartment building wasn’t torn down until 6 months after his trial. The Bundy sorority house at FSU still stands to this day as a functioning sorority house.
@AliJaeJR
@AliJaeJR Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that's bc no one will front the cost to rebuild a new bldg in a different space?
@cristinaackerman6601
@cristinaackerman6601 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely explain better than anyone!
@rosekinnison4724
@rosekinnison4724 Жыл бұрын
Keep the house up till after the trial. U of I needs to think about the victims of their students not themselves.
@anitabergner9171
@anitabergner9171 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏 Well said.
@carolwardropper5521
@carolwardropper5521 Жыл бұрын
Yes Uni are thinking it’s bad for business…This shouldn’t be allowed to happen.
@loriematthews6418
@loriematthews6418 Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 percent with you Chris! There is a "time" and "place" for everything. Need to wait until AFTER the trial is finished... 🙋💕
@RG-hf4et
@RG-hf4et Жыл бұрын
I would want to go into the house if I was a juror.
@mea1831
@mea1831 Жыл бұрын
Looky loos did the same thing to the Ramsey house in Boulder but it didn’t get torn down. That’s insane.
@Dominique_99
@Dominique_99 Жыл бұрын
The Ramsey house wasn’t completely destroyed by the FBI and police when they went through. They didn’t tear up all the flooring and spray the house with toxic chemicals looking for clues. They also didn’t rip up the carpet or tear down walls in case there was any spywear in the house. They left the house pretty much untouched. The house wasn’t covered in blood in areas of the walls in the bedrooms and the police then sprayed more chemicals looking for more trace blood. They didn’t rip up the plumbing to check if he washed off anywhere and there’s blood or hair. No. The Ramsey house looks the same as it did when they bought it only it might have been updated over the years.
@lagayames9034
@lagayames9034 Жыл бұрын
Prime example of perspective of camera vs human eye -- dealy plaza
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 Жыл бұрын
Good point
@319tippy
@319tippy Жыл бұрын
Right exactly. It worries me that they want to tear it down now. Makes me wonder if there are some issues with the evidence.
@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018
@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018 Жыл бұрын
There def is
@kindheart2127
@kindheart2127 Жыл бұрын
Good morning!! ❤
@pamgray1437
@pamgray1437 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with everything you are saying.
@elizabethmoore7023
@elizabethmoore7023 Жыл бұрын
Following the Sandy Hook tragedy, the school was demolished and a new school was built to decrease the anxiety of students, parents, and staff, but that was an elementary school. The rental house where the college students were murdered doesn't represent the same thing. No student has to return to this house unless they choose to. I support the university's plan to create a memorial on the site, similar to the 911 area, following the trial. This entire case has been cloaked in secrecy and leaves many questions for those interested. Please pray for the families of the victims. May the madness end soon.
@Alexandra0707
@Alexandra0707 Жыл бұрын
💯 Mrs Karen
@patwagner9308
@patwagner9308 Жыл бұрын
Chris, something HAS to be done. If there is enough outcry, won't that change minds? It's nuts to demolish that house before the trial. Like you said, the jury needs to go in it at 4 A.M. Totally agree !!
@thomasjordan6469
@thomasjordan6469 Жыл бұрын
You Are The Best 🙏🇺🇸👍👮‍♀️
@playnicebereal5850
@playnicebereal5850 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree about what was said tonight. Do not tear it down until the trial and sentencing has taken place.
@h2Larison
@h2Larison Жыл бұрын
Keeping the house standing IS THE ONLY RIGHT THING to do! There is NOTHING TO LOSE and much to be gained to wait.
@emmawebb6955
@emmawebb6955 Жыл бұрын
👋👋Mr. Chris and Lovely Ms. Karen, absolutely Mr. Chris, the story is in that house. As for Ms. Karen stands correct in regards to the university.
@AliJaeJR
@AliJaeJR Жыл бұрын
I do think the house should stay until after the case is completed. Theres much more of an impact when you stand in the very space of such an horrific crime.
@margarethutchens5463
@margarethutchens5463 Жыл бұрын
Tearing it down before the trial signals to me that the University cares more about a perceived image than justice for the students. What happens to that image if BK walks because the pushed for the house to go down? Will that encourage students to choose it as a safe school to attend?
@ローズマリア-o6u
@ローズマリア-o6u Жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing !!! ♥️🙏🏼
@KikaJay
@KikaJay Жыл бұрын
It is odd to me that they want to tear it down so quickly. I know that both the prosecution and defense are saying that there are floor boards and wall boards missing, plus chemicals have been sprayed in there, but they could lay down temporary floor boards and open the doors to air it out if needed for a jury to walk through. That house is very weirdly built and I think the jury might want a walk through to understand the placement of the rooms and everything.
@maziet9734
@maziet9734 Жыл бұрын
So right about it's the house's story. It's about the jury needing it. ❤ Karen & Chris❤
@addisperez8205
@addisperez8205 Жыл бұрын
They should grant the parents' requests to keep the house up until after the trial. (Jurors may want to do a walkthrough to get an idea of how far the bedrooms are,if the stairs creak,if they can hear noises from outside of the house & from downstairs & just to take a tour of the house). They can't experience any of that from pictures ,or models.
@Shhh396
@Shhh396 Жыл бұрын
Very well said
@AR-dm7ze
@AR-dm7ze Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you.
@shawnacothran3075
@shawnacothran3075 Жыл бұрын
I missed your faces... On replay crew!! Thank you 😊
@charlotted6247
@charlotted6247 Жыл бұрын
I agree 1000 %. Removing the house doesn't change what happened Leave that house alone until the trial is over. It might be hard for some to look at, but its about these 4 innocent people murdered by a demon. The jury must have the ability to see what happened in the house. They also need to see where the house sits and the surroundings. 4 totally innocent people were brutally slaughtered there and justice is demanded . Dressing that demon up infuriates me. I think its a shame that defense attorneys whitewash everything. If that was their family member, theyd see it differently. Imo they use the devastation for thsir gain financially and popularity. Shame on them. Justice must come first. ❤❤❤Love and appreciate you all.
@kylieryan3523
@kylieryan3523 Жыл бұрын
Yes. A demon creeper
@kolove17
@kolove17 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@thomasjordan6469
@thomasjordan6469 Жыл бұрын
You Are The Best 🙏👍🇺🇸
@mish4164
@mish4164 Жыл бұрын
Watching my favourite couple from Melbourne with much gratitude, thank you Chris and Karen. Quick question for the TIR community- Is there a possibility with American law that the prosecution can request the house not be demolished? 🇦🇺💜
@eveelliott7126
@eveelliott7126 Жыл бұрын
That house holds secrets ! The truth is in that house.
@tone1446
@tone1446 Жыл бұрын
Especially since the house layout is so quirky a jury will even need to go there
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking Жыл бұрын
Haven't they heard of blockade fencing?
@christiecruzxo2841
@christiecruzxo2841 Жыл бұрын
I just have to say not only is Karen an intelligent and classy lady, but she’s absolutely GORGEOUS! Inside and out. You guys make a fantastic duo in so many ways. This is what “couple goals” look like folks, take note especially the younger generations. Thank you both for all you do ❤
@lisalisa5180
@lisalisa5180 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the house itself be considered evidence? So, wouldn't they be destroying evidence? Does the jury already know of this plan? This news seems highly unusual.
@vickykimzey5547
@vickykimzey5547 Жыл бұрын
Jury needs to see inside, get the feel of how this could happened within the given timeline. They also need to see the outside, natural foliage, paths and how easy or not someone could get onto property and off of property. Where LE footage shows where they believe BK parked as the property is with trees, natural paths not to mention the lighting at night around the streets etc. GRRRR!!
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@allybooks0606
@allybooks0606 Жыл бұрын
Watched on the replay I think they should wait until after the trial to take the house down
@teresam2261
@teresam2261 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@allybooks0606
@allybooks0606 Жыл бұрын
@@teresam2261 I love this channel
@sharih9601
@sharih9601 Жыл бұрын
I really couldn’t agree more with your comments in this particular scenario. Well put! By the way, what is the title of the song that you play at the end of this video? It has caught my ear, in a good way ♥️
@sunshinedragonfly1490
@sunshinedragonfly1490 Жыл бұрын
If they are going to tear it down, wait for the case is closed! Then tear it down. Wait for the jurors to go to the house, if they need/want to!
@PhilMorgan303
@PhilMorgan303 Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯
@Shhh396
@Shhh396 Жыл бұрын
TY Karen great example why it is important to preserve the evidence
@bunnyheywood
@bunnyheywood Жыл бұрын
Agreed Chris....the jury needs to see the house...it is not your typical floor plan. To get a better sense of the horrific tragedy that happened there wait until after the trial!!! It's commonsense!! Regardless of the traffic it's imparitive that the house remain until after the trial!!! The entrance points are important at this house and where the property around it is important for them to see. Videos and 3D views and pictures are not the same as being at the scene as part of the jury. The young victims should not get lost in everything that is more important to the university. The victims deserve to have that much respect and compassion from the university. Tearing down the house is not going to erase what happened. But to do so before the trial is a deep injustice to Kaylee,Maddie,Xana and Ethan and their families. I hope the judge does the right thing ....he's wishy washy so i hope he makes the decision that is the right one. I agree if they want to tear down the college house...then tear down the apartment buikding BK lived at in WA and the house he lived at in PA. Praying for justice for the victims and their families.
@critters16
@critters16 Жыл бұрын
It seems only common sense, that they should wait until after the trial.
@gailmcclellan6018
@gailmcclellan6018 Жыл бұрын
The prosecution has agreed to have it torn down too. WHY?
@Pllm30
@Pllm30 Жыл бұрын
They are not using. They already have that new thing they are using called Virtual something where they can go thru the house w/out actually being there. The house if full of Lead and Asbestos and walls and stairs were torn up looking for evidence.
@mazie7952
@mazie7952 Жыл бұрын
The demolition got delayed. They aren't tearing it down till after trial. Saw it on news Monday. After that the college is putting a memorial garden they said. Did something change in one day???
@cindystephens9230
@cindystephens9230 Жыл бұрын
The defense could bring up some ridiculous things and the prosecution can not only explaiin it away, but show with the house just how ridiculous it is. Agree with you 💯
@paulabuck5976
@paulabuck5976 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@katedonahoe6789
@katedonahoe6789 Жыл бұрын
Great insight into victims. Thanks.
@maryflynn1758
@maryflynn1758 Жыл бұрын
Chris and Karen 🥰
@Paula-FunnyFarm
@Paula-FunnyFarm Жыл бұрын
I was on moscow today & did NOT drive by the house. Even drove through the campus & didn't see it. I don't think it is that obvious unless you are really looking for it.
@Wistful77
@Wistful77 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think the house should be kept until after the trial, it might come in useful for the jury to see it, especially when authorities say these killings happened so fast. The house has a story, too. The jury might need to see where it happened spatially, so they can see if that's possible to do in such a short timeframe, imo. Also the acoustics would be of interest. Thank you both! ❤
@cindybobrowski4929
@cindybobrowski4929 Жыл бұрын
IM SORRY I DIDNT SEE THE WHOLE SENTANCE AT FIRST, YES TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN. BUT IT HAS TO BE AFTR THE TRIAL. THE HOUSE IS STILL EVIDENCE THAT THE JURY NEEDS TO WALK THROUGH.
@Pllm30
@Pllm30 Жыл бұрын
The jury is not about to walk thru there anytime soon. Prosecution is not taking them there. The house is boarded up and full of Lead and Asbestos. Asbestos causes cancer.
@allybooks0606
@allybooks0606 Жыл бұрын
@chris you’re so right this is the victims story by didn’t they clean it up so the jury is not going to see how brutal it was I don’t think other than pictures, but I do believe the jury should walk the house I agree with you
@tmp1111
@tmp1111 Жыл бұрын
Agree, the house should not be demolished until the trail is over. Going points about PR, U of Idaho not making good decisions. Their job to support prosecution not hide it. What about the Chi Omega house where Bundy murdered several students? Still there
@carolwardropper5521
@carolwardropper5521 Жыл бұрын
Can the justice department step in to stop this??…it should be against the law!
@RubyRed77
@RubyRed77 Жыл бұрын
On what grounds? Both parties have said they don't object to demolition. You're suggesting the DOJ override the decision of the only two wholly informed parties to the case?
@bonniebrown6960
@bonniebrown6960 Жыл бұрын
What...?!! There wanting to tear the house down BEFORE the trail is over? I agree, wait until the trial is over. What if the jury needs to go threw the house so the can understand a little more how this murdered played out? That's exactly what I was thinking about was the AM case. The jury went out there and it helped solve the case. I'm just shaking my head.
@mimi-422
@mimi-422 Жыл бұрын
You are 💯💯💯💯💯👍Karen❤❤❤❤
@BamaCyn
@BamaCyn Жыл бұрын
If you ever rented a vacation house etc with 3D viewing viewing its never the same when you get there and see it in person. Very close, but different.
@jevans6080
@jevans6080 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be a disaster to tear down the house before the trial. I dont understand why it isnt being held as evidence. The college wants it to go away because of PR. The college would be doing a diservice to the 4 beautiful students and the community. Does the college have any sense?
@paulabuck5976
@paulabuck5976 Жыл бұрын
A college is a business concerned only with their bottom line. 😔
@teresamicheletti977
@teresamicheletti977 Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸👍🥇🇺🇸⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🇺🇸 Totally Agree!🤑PR! Universities🤑Institutions Business🤑Profit🤑💲💰
@LA-ff6zk
@LA-ff6zk Жыл бұрын
The university is trying to protect someone
@AlwaysHalloween000
@AlwaysHalloween000 Жыл бұрын
Sober Up
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 Жыл бұрын
And stop spreading Ashley’s lies.
@cacola_3373
@cacola_3373 Жыл бұрын
Correct Karen!!
@Crowskulll
@Crowskulll Жыл бұрын
Wow...the audio for karen is awful...please fix...love you!
@SAM57119
@SAM57119 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm not a trained person and when I heard they wanted to tear that house down before the trial I was flabbergasted. I hope they do take the jury there at 4AM and when they do I also hope the windows are back as they were when the murders happened. (The windows are boarded up/over now)
@livingintheforest3963
@livingintheforest3963 Жыл бұрын
Terrible idea the house is full of evidence, and also for the jury to walk-through for walk-through purpose of observation. This is an awful idea, and it’s very oriented through the university to make the town more presentable for students, but the victims have to have their day in court too. Justice has to be served.
@CindyNeumann4726
@CindyNeumann4726 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t Shannon Gray use the same motion that Anne T used to stop the cleaning so she could see what was inside.The same motion to protect the jurors to enter the house too. They deserve this as much as Anne does. The motion to stay the cleaning entered 12/29/22 Idaho court.
@maureens100
@maureens100 Жыл бұрын
Karen and Chris...right on...their PR imagine....exactly....and yes...the house is not the University
@NJaze
@NJaze Жыл бұрын
I hope all concerned make the right decision. 😊
@cheryl4823
@cheryl4823 Жыл бұрын
I really hope they wait until after the trial to take that house down . The jury should have the option to view the crime scene , see how sound carries in there and get a sense of lighting etc . Let’s see if the university does the right thing here Karen , you look beautiful ❤
@user-bx8ol3yv3d
@user-bx8ol3yv3d Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they will yet until the jury sees it.
@DebiJo
@DebiJo Жыл бұрын
It should not be torn down! So why do they want to at this time??
@Gonk
@Gonk Жыл бұрын
Anne Taylor approved the demolish, she feels they got all the info they need from the house, so weird.
@bunnyheywood
@bunnyheywood Жыл бұрын
Well i'm not at all surprised she said that. Of course she wants it torn down.
@enick7955
@enick7955 Жыл бұрын
Now, wouldn't that be great for the defense.
@Pllm30
@Pllm30 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't want them finding anymore evidence on Bryan that's why she wants it torn down.
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