(Wait What?!) Bill Haney says Subriel Matias talking like he is the A-side. Is Matias Clout chasing?

Seems like Tuff Glove may have ruffled some feathers. Bill Haney says He called Matias team to make the fight and they refuse to talk business. Subriel Matias calls Devin Haney a boring chicken and his coach Panda says all Haney will do is run. Here are my thoughts.
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[@elreydelring7972]

Bill Haney lied about talking to Subriel Matias team and about the 4mil , that was a sphycological move to make it look like they challenged Subriel Matias so they wouldnt look scare and look bad in the eyes of the people and fans. The truth is Bill and David Haney MADE THAT UP because Haney is in his glory right now and he is not just going to give that up that easy, it was Bill Haney idea in the first place to fight Progreis and avoid Subriel and move up to 147lbs. because Subriel Matias is a risk for Haney. Look at Subriel's record, another boxing died after fighting with Subriel and look at his record, if you wered David Haneys dad you would protect your son too, Listen im Puerto Rican and trust me alot of us not stupid we know our fighters, Subriel never backed down from fighting David Haney neither did he asked for 4m. that never happened, Subriel never even made 1 million in his boxing career neverless would ask for 4million, that was Bill Haneys plot to avoid Subriel Matias.

[@larrylopez9614]

We seen Matias struggle with a C-level fighter and got hurt. What you think Teo or Haney will do to him? I like Matias but yall overhyping him right now. Hes still unproven to me

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

I tried to send something yet they keep erasing. Wonder why

[@larrylopez9614]

@@Coqui-FJ Here we go with these meetings again 🤣🤣Its 2024 who has meetings when you can Zoom and use other platforms?

[@larrylopez9614]

@@Coqui-FJ Matias got hurt and struggled against a bum yall gotta stop the nonsense

[@Veteranorepublicano]

I dont recommend blue blood. He is fake news!!

[@ugaugauga488]

@bestoutoyou, Blue Blood's "insider information" is nothing more than spreading Bill's smoke and using Bill's mirrors.

[@carlitobrigante8850]

Man I don't care bout tank devin Shakur they haven't fought each other so they doing nothing

[@carlitobrigante8850]

Devin the lame hayny

[@gua0239]

Matias want to fight Haney, Haney need the stop talking crap, and take that fight, all Haney do is creating excuses to avoid Subriel Matias fight.

[@Ghost-zh5up]

Just because haney is a bigger name that doesn't mean the other fighter can't negotiate dawg is a business. They were supposed to meet at Arizona matias team was there for a fight bill said he would show up and didn't.

[@ugaugauga488]

Blue Blood's "insider information" is nothing more than spreading Bill's smoke and using Bill's mirrors.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

I agree.

[@joshjime3731]

Another rumor circling around. Bill was offering pennies to a champion. No wonder he won’t take that fight. Everything has to make sense money wise and the fight can happen quick because matias offered teo to fight end march early april due to injury and he rejected. making me think that the offer was made to make us think that matias was ducking lol

[@pichieelduro1898]

Exactly what happened,😂 how can you make an offer to another fighter when you already had a set date to fight jermaine ortiz on February 8th. Only groupies fall for the bullshit narratives

[@larrylopez9614]

Matias will make more than he ever made fighting Haney. Matias see a million yet? I doubt that just because you have a belt don't mean you deserve the bulk of the split.

[@J-Hue]

​@@larrylopez9614 Matias' highest pay day is 350k, to my knowledge. 1.5 mil should be enough assu.ing the 50k ppv rumors are true for Haney's last fight.

[@jdlboxing3165]

Well from what I heard Panda saying is that they offered either 300k or 400k but that part was unclear, he did state it was well under 1 million and he felt like Matias was worth at least 1 mil.

[@ugaugauga488]

Blue Blood's "insider information" is nothing more than spreading Bill's smoke and using Bill's mirrors.

[@J-Hue]

Panda double talks like Bill and tge rest of these guys.He never said they offered any amount, but he phrased the statement to where it could be assumed that they did. As it stands, there's not enough clarity to know who's holding things up more. I do hope that fight gets made soon though.

[@ugaugauga488]

@@J-Hue No, you missed it.

[@jdlboxing3165]

@@J-Hue you’re correct I didn’t want to explain it on here but he did make it sound like it was well under a million.

[@Veteranorepublicano]

Subriel has not been out boxed. He lost a fight that he did not take serious and it was a close fight. He came back and won by his opponent quiting on the stool.

[@ugaugauga488]

@@Coqui-FJ More facts: like I keep telling the casual fans, that fall into the ropes that the referee counted against Matias was identical to the one that was NOT counted against Spence in his fight against Ugas. It was about 1 minute 50 seconds into the 6th round. It was an identical fall backwards into the ropes, and yet casual fans don't call Spence's a knock down but try to discredit Matias for his.

[@larrylopez9614]

​@@Coqui-FJYall fanboys and your excuses. 🤣🤣Matias was clearly hurt but yeah believe what you want. Once Matias fights an elite fighter yall will see the difference. Coach Panda knows Haney is a huge jump in levels.

[@ElDukeJunFilo]

@@larrylopez9614Larry Lopez no one of them want smoke with Matias …is so easy to beat Matias that not even the champions mention him .haney father talking for his kid cus the paper champs know that mentioning Matias on this time will be ugly for them .and that’s what we want ! To all those champions that you mention put a foot on Matias boat 😂😂😂they will be done 🇵🇷💪🏽🇵🇷

[@edwinrivera4031]

Blue don't know what really hapened,they where supposed to meet in Arizona and Bill never showed up.If Haney is about legacy unify with Subriel and don't look to fight a bum like Bronner.

[@judahroyal5021]

Na bruh. Tell that shit to Tank. Devin fought 3 champs in a row. If he wants a money fight with Broner… so what.

[@edgardoarroyo7418]

Bill Haney all that Cap with Matias to end up with a Broner fight??😂😂😂 The Fear for Subriel Matias is real with these so cal Champs💩💩💩

[@CoachMario.Official]

Great episode, amigo. I really like your honesty and impartiality when it comes to your show. However imo, Bill Haney has lost all credibility in my eyes, and I think he's full of it. Subriel's dying to fight one of these divas who dont even mention his name, and I dont know what inside scoop you have, but I seriously doubt that the one's capping is Subriel Matias. However, if he is, I will personally hold his feet to the fire in my channel, Inside the Ropes w/ Coach Mario. Love your insight amigo..you're legit, and I wouldn't worry too much about fanatics and haters... I have a few of those in my channel, too. Continue speaking from the heart...props to you, my friend.

[@ugaugauga488]

Exactly, Coach Mario. Blue Blood's "inside information" is nothing more than Bill's smoke and mirrors and it could be a way for Bill to claim Matias clout chasing so he can then duck Matias. I doubt Matias would ask for more than 30%, which I think is reasonable under the circumstances.

[@CoachMario.Official]

​@ugaugauga488 Does Matias deserve a one million dollar payday and part of the gate to unify against Haney? Damn straight he does! Will 300k suffice for Matias, while Haney's taking in the rest? Don't think so man..we all know Haney's the A side but treat a champion with respect. If I were counseling Matias I would advise him to take no less than a cool million. He deserves it and he's the one who will be bringing in all of those Puertorican fans and those who love his exciting boxing style who are in the millions worlwide. Good for PPV numbers and for Haney's pocket..win win for both.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Salute family I meant to add you to my dope channel alert. I got you on the next video.100

[@ugaugauga488]

@@CoachMario.Official Yes, I agree. I would say no less than 30% for Matias, anything like $2 million.

[@ugaugauga488]

@@tuffgloveboxing Why are you insulting him? He's being very civilized and cordial!

[@davidmoreno9143]

Good talk Tuff Glove. I think Subriel Matias has the 140 and 135 division on Check. It's like he's becoming a chiken hunter

[@dgfcycling1]

I just think and observe that knowing my Puerto rican people, Subriel can already taste the blood and watch it "He's pissed off already he's going to fuck somebody up. bad!

[@dgfcycling1]

Be polite with Matias. He might let you live.😊

[@edwinnieves1381]

Subriel Matias Team understands Devin Haney is the A side, so this fight should be easy to make for this year 2024 Subriel Matias wants a unification fight.

[@Troyabusa1]

Tell that to bill to get his fighter in the ring

[@joshjime3731]

Nah the haneys don’t want that smoke. They all gonna wait till he ages like they did with loma. The only one that has the courage is teofimo and that’s a fact💯. Salute brother🫡

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

The same Teofimo that denied te rematch with Kambosas that beat his ass in a bathroom stall? The one that robbed the damn great boxer Sandor Martin??? Teo his over hyped

[@mopar_keys]

…. Do you hear yourself bro ? 🤦🏾‍♂️🤔😂

[@tuffgloveboxing]

yes

[@cjfilmsjusttalking1235]

Matias is a natural fighter Haney is a pure boxer this would be a great match.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Agreed.

[@JuanMartinez-qs1dw]

I’m a big boxing fan I just subscribed to your channel bro

[@JuanMartinez-qs1dw]

I just can’t see how Matias can deal with the speed of a boxer like Haney or Teo

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Great Welcome to the family!

[@hectorsanchez1978]

Loving your content and honesty brotha! In addition If matias feels like if he can walk through Haney punches it will be a long night for Haney. I see Haney running through the entire fight trying to outbox matias which he has the skills to do that but it will definitely be a great match!

[@Troyabusa1]

Stop talking and put them in the ring to show you what a real fight not this so cold fighters in twiter or youtume and bill was expose to be a liar eveting you sad it was becouse another chanel told you and you ran whit it

[@oldpapa8215]

I do follow Haney's career (not a fan) and respect his skills, but most importantly, the way his career is moving. However, I will never entertain forming an opinion based on what comes out of Bill Haney’s mouth.

[@tinoracing7]

It was that Daddy Haney call some Guy Peter that does not belong to the Matias team then he got a hold of Matias promoter but when they talk the guy hang up on him twice because Haney is the type of guy that likes to call and started yelling in the phone and the guy said we meet someplace and he never showed up to the meeting

[@pitoelcano6376]

Subriel Matías Will out sell with Mexico and Puerto Rican fans by millions .. that's all he needs..

[@buttab9952]

You on point my dude, fan of boxing we to mature to be acting like the yuggins, stay up my dude👍🏿

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Appreciate you

[@pitoelcano6376]

Haney is running away Theo also. Matías is ready for all.. stop the B's and get the fight on fans will pay to see.

[@GM-bk6wx]

Blue is a liar

[@inmyopinion651]

Watch Matais last fight with Ergochev and tell me if you think Bill would ever put Dev in ring with Matias lol. Hell or Ergochev either for that matter.

[@byronsimpson7024]

Let's not forget structure , rankings . We need to have some of these mandatories . These guys earned their spots . Can't keep dodging mandatories just for names .

[@victorcruz3221]

Let's the PPV numbers be the measure to decide who is the A side because money talk...so Matías Team need to have his next fight a PPV before the unification fight with Haney be agreed....!!!!

[@user-to8cd9ty4d]

The best fight for Matias right now i believe is prograis. Prograis has no title, but if matias dismantles him haney or the others running away will have to give him the fights due to fan pressure.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Great Point

[@Troyabusa1]

so you thing bill dont say lies

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Is that what I said? Or did I hold both fighters accountable?

[@jerelljoseph8477]

Lmao, the saudis mentioned Devin Haney because Devin visited there for the Fury Ungana fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbyongsueco6515]

2nd. January. 26. 2024 Philippine TIME 5:03am Thanks for your updates. Tim Tszyu vs Thurman is a non title fight. March 30. 2024 in Las Vegas

[@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb]

Haney vs Matias winner gets 60/40 stop the cap

[@kalajojojeli]

Nobody wants that Matias smoke!

[@edros221]

The problem is...Haney Sr the only talk is to "we are the A side"....."the best PxP".......and I understand his resume is better than the Subriel.....but.....Haney last fight don't sell the they was spected.....and right now Subriel is the most high impact in the social media in 140lbs no Haney....so that means something to be worry....those super STARS wants money for easy fights(like Tank always did it)...we'll see what happens

[@puertoricanpower7424]

We are boxing fan,say no more....

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

2 links. 1 of Bill and Panda talking face to face. With Bill speaking about communication with JUAN. kzbin.infolInLQu1qxCA?si=UyHp2ODbWc6u6DYz

[@jaimetorres7159]

I like you Channel David Haney he’s not a runner it’s just a Ruru He cannot fight. He was stuck in his feet, but Matias he will get to Haney it will be a good fight. We only had to see money talk I would like to see Teo Ald this guy 140 to fight each other.

[@jaimetorres7159]

Why no one in 140 talking about undefeated no one they only one I hear talk Gary, Russell, and Matias the only one talking about undefeated

[@rudicuevas809]

Haney vs Broner, come on... Thats a tune up fight for Haney.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

I agree but he did have some tuff fights last year.

[@rudicuevas809]

@@tuffgloveboxingBroner had tough fights last year? Come on. Broner needs to retire.

[@jaimetorres7159]

He’s going to make more money next’s fight that he gonna make with Haney bill offer penny

[@jaimetorres7159]

Matias made less money in his last fight the but they don’t make the fight man come

[@rsouthall]

Here’s the problem I have Matias, Shakur etc…. should just take whatever Devin offers them for a chance to be the man in the future but when it comes to Tank , Devin should get what Ryan got , it should be at Devins weight class, no rehydration etc….. Devin calls all the shots but Tank brings in all of the money 😂😂😂😂 when in history does it work like that???? Where they do that at????? But Tank is a duck though😂😂😂😂 the Hippocrates!!!!! Like you said if Devin wants to be the man in the future then he should Take what Tank offers and beat his azz then he will be the money man and have all the fans!!!! Stop it the 🧢!

[@rudicuevas809]

Matias is NOT Regis. If that was Matias instead of Devin, Regis would have been kod before the 7th. Styles makes fights.. Bill knows that Matias is a different monster... Im a huge fan of Matias but I got Devin favored by a very small margin. Devin is a very skilled boxer. BUT, he knows that Matias is not going to sit and box like Regis tried to do. SMH..Matias is real good at staying in front of fighters with relentless pressure and throwing short, quick power punches. Haney WILL get hit against Matias. That will be either a Haney decision or Matias kos him. Blues comment about flat foot pressure fighter is irrelevant. In boxing history there has been plenty of flat footed champions that have destroyed skilled boxers. The fact is, Matias is a dangerous fighter and has a real good chance of stopping Devin. Im 55 and been into boxing for a long time. Boxing is also a bussines, contracts happen and not happen. Hopefully we get that fight. Would rather see Teo vs Matias in June. If that doesnt happen, Matias vs the winner of Rolly vs Pitbull. How about a Ryan vs Matias. Got to love that 140, lots of options.

[@jaimetorres7159]

Haney and Matias fight for all because money I said Brother he’s gonna make more money with the Brazilian guy. I’m sorry Australian guy is business. That’s why he gonna fight Bruno because his more money.

[@Onetime806]

I seing subriel talking about all of them and the only ones response was haney father with lies and teofimo too subriel its the ibf Cham so he is Champ too was the diferent and haney just coming up to 140 subriel was. There already

[@CarlosGarcia-ej4ty]

Coward fear subriel matias real champ bb

[@jaimetorres7159]

Is business man the only one that made money they fight they all should get paid simple

[@carlitobrigante8850]

Hoow devin a side he cant sell shit

[@tuffgloveboxing]

According to who? He sold more PPV then Matias ijs

[@lovelygang8285]

This guy is a clown!!! No facts!! Move go way!

[@jaimetorres7159]

Be realistic man no one want to fight Matias is a big risk they talk talk talk is very easy to make a fight with Matias just send the contract

[@jacqueshowell6874]

Matias should not fight for less than 3 million....given that he has a team to pay for and taxes in the states and in Puerto Rico...3 mil after paying taxes and his team will be about 500k at the end...so yes Matias should not take less than 3 million from now on

[@jaimetorres7159]

Brother Brother does not true. He not asking for so much money bill toking Front crap that’s not true.

[@jaimetorres7159]

You got more information Brother wrong information

[@Veteranorepublicano]

Is this about who is a better boxer or popularity contest. This is ridiculous.. Boxing is dead!!!

[@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb]

Why would I give u the bigger purse when I’m also the champ hell nah, winner get 60 loser 40 or winner takes all

[@J-Hue]

That's not how business works. Both guys are champs. Whoever brings in the most money makes the most money.

[@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb]

Haney a cherry picker

[@boxingnocturnalthoughts1907]

Video was smooth! SALUTE

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Appreciate that fam.

[@jaimetorres7159]

Hey, make big money to be undefeated come on man he make a lot of money to be underfeed by don’t come when he went to Australia he made more $8 million

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

MUCHO RESPETO🥊 I respect this channel bro. I see you keep it thorough!! Guys were still blame Devin Haney talking about they must have tried to give Subriel pennies which is crazy. A man that made $350k his last fight would be blessed to make 3 times as much to have 1 million. Let alone simply ask for 2million. I really wanted to see that fight and I can't believe Panda and Juan would mess that up for Mattias and his legacy by being greedy. I lile Matias and rally for Haney ever since I seen him fight in my country then make it big as he have. I hppe Matias dont become a what if. He already 31 years old. I see now Devin about to go through at 140 what he went through at 135🤦‍♂️ Regis is the only one that wanted to make that money everyone else just want to try to be greedy like Shakur and Matias team. Haney wont get the Romero fight under the PBC because ROLLY is Mayweathers fighter. And we see how he has been with DHP. So its like Sandor as a defense(Mando) Or Broner maybe for a little money fight. Or maybe someone at 140. But Jose Ramirez😅 Hitchins🤦‍♂️ and others are there. But Haney wants belts or BIG FIGHTS. No point in mentioning Ryan.

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

@Coqui-FJ Look out hombre. Matias can make 1 billion dollars for all i care. I am a wealthy man and dont concern myself of what he can and cant make. Id rather see him making Canelo bankrolls also. As far as him drawing or selling its public information and you are here speaking with your emotions with no mathematical data can anyone who cares to know know know know that he does not sell out big places and that he does not fight on Pay-Per-View and that's his last pay was $350,000 so you were here with your fickle emotions trying to argue for a man that don't know you yet you are arguing against historical data so get out of your feminine emotions and only speak about mathematical figures that we both can prove that our public knowledge outside of that you on some b*******. The television stations and promotions reveal all. Dont tag me speaking thoughts and feelings without DATA. Ment speak in MATHMATICAL FACTUALS

[@ugaugauga488]

@ronaldojimenez, Blue Blood's "insider information" is nothing more than spreading Bill's smoke and using Bill's mirrors. And you can't expect a champion like Matias to take 10% or 20%. He deserves up to 30%. A couple of million would do it, while Haney gets up to $8 million. I assure you the fight would sell three to four times what the Regis fight sold. It would be from 250k PPV to 350 PPV plus arena.

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

@@ugaugauga488 I don't know nothing about blue blood and all this other stuff you talking about man so whatever you trying to explain to me is if like I said it or agree with it you on your own with that one I know exactly what was stated by Mr Panda himself and Mr Bill Haney himself and the conversation took place with Mr Juan because even Panda agreed with the Bill om what occured when they were on call together and that's all that I know. starting at 34 min kzbin.infolInLQu1qxCA?si=UyHp2ODbWc6u6DYz and then Panda switched up and it went from a opportunity from Haney to Matias to them wanting Bill Haney take time out his life to fly to where they (instead of them giving him a price over the phone to try to make the fight) and to sit down and discuss giving them some of the gate money which is outrageous being that the man does not sell out anything himself and his biggest fight pay was $350,000. I mean an opportunity would be him to get Haneys name on his resume and to at least be able to get a million or million point five or something maybe even two million which is more than the 350,000 that was his highest pay. That's my opinion I don't speak men's money but the thing is to duck a fight from greed when you truly need the opportunity is crazy and it's actually going to do a 180 I would like to see Subriel fight Devin Haney but if his team stay greedy like how they just did, all they did was deny the fight and now they're going to fight for less of money and a lesser name. the same way that Shakur Stevenson did💯 here is the link the Mr panda trying to play high and mighty on Bill Haney kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2W7c4Zmq654sNUsi=IbF2MSRonPT1Fmwg

[@ugaugauga488]

@@ronaldojimenez1017 You're buying Bill's smoke. First of all, Panda was on the phone up to a point and he said then he got off. Bill's discussion with Orengo ended with them agreeing to talk more, and Orengo informed Bill that he would be in Arizona, NOT that he MUST go to Arizona. That's not how Orengo does business, dude. Of course, Bill was not going to go to Arizona, but the invitation was there. They agreed to talk more. After that all Bill did was desperately go first after the Tank, then the Ryan and then the Barrios fight. Now he's going after the Broner fight. You make your own conclusion about that, but I advise anyone not to buy Bill's smoke that Matias is asking for too much money. It's Bill's intention to discredit Matias and protect Devin's and his reputation, simple.

[@ugaugauga488]

@@ronaldojimenez1017 Also, dude, Matias is not outpricing himself. You're buying into the smoke. And BTW, I hope you don't think the fight against Broner is going to sell more than against Matias. Anyone who believes that is totally discredited for any discussions.

[@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb]

Adrian broner is a waste of time

[@user-fi3ug1nr5i]

Bro you know Matias don't speak English and that's why no one really knows him but give him some time and u'll see what's what and who's who alright time will talk this world champions haven't fight with the best yet plz.

[@tuffgloveboxing]

What do you think about this coverage of Matias. I am just holding him accountable like I did everyone else. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKitc617lNd0m7M

[@Jessfit_lyfe]

Keep up the good work. I love how you hold all these fighters accountable. Ppl call out sh** on one fighter but when their fighter doing the same thing, they start ni**asplaining 😂

[@tuffgloveboxing]

Thank you and yes you already know how it go.

[@Jessfit_lyfe]

@@Coqui-FJ yessir & I love it

[@covaundermix]

Yea HE IS THE 👉A 👈SIDE 👉MATIAS HE GONE TKO YOU BROTHER

[@jaybrumfield7402]

Matias manager never call back ,it been over a month. Matias made $275k last fight. Bill asks," What's your price"? Panda said "We want to negotiate. Please listen to Panda interview on the boxing voice. Who's celebrating talking about he's rich because of Devin Haney fight. So I believe they did ask for $4million.

[@ugaugauga488]

@jaybrumfienld, you bought Bill's smoke. You fell for it, in spite of his admitted lie that Matias asked for $4 million, which has been debunked by Bill himself when he admitted that Khan was not Matias' manager. They're using smoke to discredit Matias to then be able to duck him, dude.

[@jaybrumfield7402]

Matthias only fought level C Fighters in my opinion. I've saw Matias been hurt multi time . I believe Matias is a punching bag for elite fighters. I believe Devin put Matias asleep.

[@ugaugauga488]

@jaybrumfield, Bill and Devin don't seem to believe you.

[@jaybrumfield7402]

Devin was hurt by them because he was weight drain. What Matias excuse

[@ugaugauga488]

@@jaybrumfield7402 Haney is able to balloon up to 25 lbs. overnight. He's not weight drained.

[@antwanwilliams6893]

In the beginning, he skipped the hole part where Bill called on 3 ways, and they told Bill they would contact them back in a week, and still, this day, ni word back from matius

[@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb]

Nah they told bill to come down to Arizona to negotiate bill hasn’t show

[@J-Hue]

​@@UnknownUnknown-vv6hb If they can't cooperate and even give a number, going to them to negotiate doesn't make a ton of sense. It's already somewhat of a concession.

[@ronaldojimenez1017]

this 2nd link is about Panda wanting gate money and no longer a oppurtunity. How can a man make 350,000 his last fight and now I'll be expecting to make gate money and purse money with his first big name from a guy that is accomplished so much in boxing??? kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2W7c4Zmq654sNUsi=IbF2MSRonPT1Fmwg

[@ugaugauga488]

@ronaldojimenez, Blue Blood's "insider information" is nothing more than spreading Bill's smoke and using Bill's mirrors. Don't buy the smoke. It's clear Bill is trying to discredit Matias to duck the fight and preserve Haney's reputation.