Review & Test Drive Ford Transit

[@Waldochs]

What are your questions about the 2020 AWD Ford Transit? What would you like to see? Are you going to buy a 2020 Ford Transit AWD?

[@sjackson99]

I have a Quadvan and I would like to see a side by side comparison of the traction of each system. So a Quadvan (or Quigley) in a drag race on snow with the 2020 AWD. Making everything as similar as possible. Same van...same engine...same tires, etc.

[@Waldochs]

@@sjackson99 I'll see if I can hunt one of those down and see if we can put together a video showing the two together.

[@growler1149]

I’d like to see the new diesel when available with a 350HD dully AWD extended high roof cargo van. I feel like properly set up being a general contractor I’d be really ahead of the curve. 👍🏻

[@Waldochs]

@@growler1149 that would be pretty cool rig.

[@tetatoto23]

@@sjackson99 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4CWiJWVpqije8U No need to make comparisons, the result is known in advance: # AWD vehicles are better on paved roads because they will prevent skidding by ABS braking on one or more wheels depending on the intensity decided by the software. # 4x4 vehicles are better on unpaved terrain: they keep their traction because each wheel will receive 25% of the power in all circumstances. The real question to ask is: Is it theoretically possible to transform a Ford Transit 2020 AWD into a real 4x4, this vehicle being able to go from one mode to another? This would require bypassing the electronics when you switch to 4X4 and reconnecting it when you switch to AWD. Thus, the driver could use it in AWD mode on paved roads, and in 4x4 mode on bad roads in dirt, sand, etc. This question should be addressed to Quadvan and Quigley and resolved by them. I would like to be able to chat with them, but that is impossible for me because I do not have a sufficient command of the English language, and because at the moment I am abroad, I am not a potential client yet. If you can get answers, please repeat them here. it would be nice of you. Quigley does not deign to respond to my messages that I post on KZbin. I don't know whether they think my question is too stupid (indeed, maybe there might be some mechanical impossibility), or whether they don't understand my bad English, or whether they feel that as a foreigner I cannot be a potential customer. In my opinion, the solution can only be provided by Ford by reprogramming their software. They would have to offer an AWD choice, and a 4x4 choice by acting on a switch.

[@LittleBakedMedia]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It'll be a few years before I can buy an AWD van but these look like nice options!

[@Waldochs]

Thanks! There will be AWD used vans out on the market soon enough. The RWD is a decent option in the mean time.

[@sweetchuckchuck]

I need this for my 6 kids in the snow its about time :)

[@Waldochs]

Give us a call 651-464-3215

[@sweetchuckchuck]

@@Waldochs I'm in the process of finding getting one ty!!

[@CandiGul]

This video is awesome. I can't wait to get mine soon for my van build.

[@Waldochs]

Exciting! Let us know how it goes! We can get you many of the parts you need for your conversion. We are a certified Webasto, Dometic, Thule dealer.

[@s1283]

We have two (service vans) 350 dually high roof long extended transits, open rear diff, 3.5 ecoboost @ 13mpg. Vermont winters are just bearable fully loaded upfitted with shelves and tools. Yet to get stuck going on three years but it can get squirrelly (wish we went lsd). Been waiting for the AWD to come out so when we start rotating our vans out for new, we can get a more roadworthy setup.

[@Waldochs]

Lucky, the open diff is hard not to get stuck but with the weight you have it probably makes all the difference.

[@s1283]

Absolutely, weight makes the different.

[@gmaneis]

Wow! This van makes my 2017 Winnebago Fuse (Ford Transit) RV look sad. Beautiful. Nice review.

[@Waldochs]

Thanks for watching!

[@9_19Ming]

Ford transit van is my biggesssssst love ❤️ 😍

[@reelfishing002]

Hey I’m in Minnesota , should compare the 2019 to this 2020 running in snow and see if the AWD is a must needed feature for here in Minnesota

[@Waldochs]

We're currently working on that video. Thanks for the comment!

[@seathwolf5610]

Really nice review. Thanks

[@Waldochs]

Thanks!

[@chefduane3742]

I would like to see one.... IN MY DRIVEWAY!! Oh yeah!!

[@Waldochs]

We would like to see that too! Heck yeah!

[@bowtiefidenine]

What Bullshit , i just got stuck in the snow 6 inch deep and the back tire just spins and the message center said AWD not available at this time!

[@vanlifeobsession2789]

Great video, have been learning all we can before ordering a 2020 Ford Transit and your video was very helpful. (We especially appreciated the demo of the 5 AWD modes, that alone might have "sealed the deal.") To that end, we've scoured the 2020 Transit brochure (not yet available online) and the 2020 Transit Order guide, and in many cases have learned more than even Ford salespeople know. So we did notice when you described the Transit's center console / cup holders as "standard." (" 'Course you got your standard cup holders...") Easy mistake, likely you meant "the usual Ford or typically American cup holders" (or something like that). Trouble is, in new-vehicle-speak, "standard" means it comes on the van without ordering anything extra. In fact, it's not the STANDARD center console, it's the Large Center Console, which is only "standard" on the Passenger Van XLT. Anyone looking for the larger center console with fixed cup holders and storage would be disappointed to learn it was not "standard" on any other model of 2020 Transit (and maybe by receiving the wrong one). The Large Center Console is "included with Upfitter Package (67C) and Trailer Brake Controller (67D)." So, when you order the Upfitter Package (includes the AUX 1-4 switches, called High Capacity Upfitter Switches), or the Trailer Brake Controller (the switches are to the left of the AUX row as you pointed out), you get the Large Center Console to accommodate them. According to the literature, the Small Center Console has deployable cup holders, in the Medium they are fixed, and in the Large they are fixed with "additional storage area." This brings up an added note, important to Van Lifers. The Upfitter Package (67C) includes: ● High Capacity Upfitter Switches ● Large Center Console (67E) ● Auxiliary Fuse Panel with High Spec Interface Connector (87E) ● Dual AGM Batteries (63E) ● Modified Vehicle Wiring System (53K) These are great upgrades for anyone wanting to run their own wiring to interface with the Ford Transit. The High Capacity Upfitter Switches alone would make the package essential. (We'll be ordering this for sure.) Again, great video, we saw features we have only read about and have not been able to see! Looking forward to more. Cheers, ----------------------------------------------------------------- ● Van Life Obsession ● Stay Obsessed ● -----------------------------------------------------------------

[@Waldochs]

Thank you for this great comment! We are working on more content!

[@graciebradbury6730]

But I'd like to know about the Ford Transit van how much it cost and like to know more about the 350 Transit van with the High roof

[@Waldochs]

The AWD Transit cost 60k+ on the 350 High Roof, we could have one of our dealers reach out to you or you can contact any ford dealer to help you.

[@tehmineyalbuzdag2390]

Looking into this van vs palisade for fam of 7. What is better and is the price similar?. Does it drive well in winter?

[@Waldochs]

This van is going to have way more room, and you will be able to stand up if you are under 5’10”. The pricing ranges from 60-80k it drives great in the winter, the AWD is so nice

[@jamesjannell8706]

Beautiful vans. Just wish Ford would have given them a little more lift so some of us could run larger wheels and tires. It seems with Sprinter it does sit a little higher. ?

[@Waldochs]

There are options coming out to lift it. You can go slightly larger with the factory setup. We are working on a comparison video between all the vans, one thing you will see, although you get more wheel height in the sprinter with the factory lift, you don't gain any clearance below the van. Something to keep in mind when it comes to these vans. Thanks for the comment!

[@jamesjannell8706]

Waldoch that’s great to gear lift mods are on the way. Thx

[@robertj8451]

im 6'2 so i would be picking that high roof dually. it basically use it as atruck and a camper in 1 .

[@Waldochs]

Let us know we would be happy to help build it.

[@charles-bernardgagnon8244]

Hi you mentioned they is an optional swivel seats? In the passenger? I was on the impression S-S were available only in cargo? Cheers for your informative vidéos!

[@Waldochs]

There is optional swivel seats, which is both front seats. I don't believe it's only available on the cargo vans only, I could be wrong. I know it can be optioned out with the adventure prep package. In the case of many of our vans they are built on the cargo platform and we upfit them with an interior.

[@brandywinetreesllc4131]

A great review, but I guess the bell dinging in the background was from him not wearing his seat belt? Not very smart!

[@Waldochs]

Sorry, in and out of vehicles a lot and it's a habit from moving a lot of vehicles. This is no longer the case in any of our other videos and I've broken the habit. Thanks for the comment!

[@ger13nunyah56]

NICE , It’s good for Van Conversion

[@Waldochs]

Thank you very much!

[@tetatoto23]

Is it theoretically possible to transform a Ford Transit 2020 AWD into a real 4x4, this vehicle being able to go from one mode to another? Thus, the driver could use it in AWD mode on paved roads, and in 4x4 mode on bad roads in dirt, sand, etc. This is important to know when you want a RV.

[@Waldochs]

Anything is possible, if you have the time and money. Overall, the AWD system isn't really designed to be a real 4x4, so even if you could do this, I would assume you'd see part failures. The AWD alone is very capable of going many places as it is. Rock crawling, no. Mudding, no. BLM land, yes. Snowy roads, yes, Back country roads, yes. Unmaintained roads, yes. Another layer that plays into this is having the right tires for the job and enough weight in the vehicle. I think if you go test drive an AWD Transit, you'll find the drive modes to be more than enough to do what you need depending on your road conditions. Mud/ruts mode might be what you'd need on the dirt/sand.

[@cooper9917]

People have been doing 4x4 converts for a while. Check out Quigley 4x4 for a good idea of pricing and what is involved.

[@tetatoto23]

​@@cooper9917 Yes, Quigley and Quadvan transform 2WD Transit into 4x4. My question was: is it possible to transform a Transit AWD into a true 4x4 knowing that the AWD is a 4 wheel drive which is very effective on paved roads, but seems ineffective on natural roads. So, as Waldoch said, a AWD is not a real 4x4. The answer is not obvious, because before transforming a AWD into a dual system including AWD and real 4x4, you have to know whether it is possible to turn off the electronics of the AWD system when switching to 4x4. As a reminder: The AWD system can transmit all the power on the front or rear axle, or according to any other ratio depending on what the computer decides, for example: 10% at the front 90% at the rear, or 60% front and 40% rear, or 25% front and 75% rear. When a wheel no longer touches the ground or when it accelerates because there is no more grip, the ABS system brakes it. On the other hand, a true 4x4 will always transmit 50% to the front and 50% to the rear in all circumstances.

[@bmkolb]

I haven’t see any side swing doors, only have seen sliding side door! Do they still make them?

[@Waldochs]

the Side Swing doors are only on the low roof models.

[@darkwater482]

Ford is available in diesel and 4x4, so much for the Ram front wheel drive. Dodge better be paying attention.

[@Waldochs]

It will be interesting to see if RAM decides to build a AWD or 4x4 competitior.

[@Park_Place]

I don't know, the ProMaster feels really cheap and clunky compared to the Transit, and especially compared to the Sprinter. And the Express is really outdated, both in the interior and exterior. Right now, it's a head-to-head fight between Mercedes-Benz and Ford.

[@seccat]

What’s the differences on limited differential option?

[@Waldochs]

The Limited Slip option here is the definition: In conditions where both wheels have an equal amount of traction and the vehicle is not turning, the differential will spin both wheels at the same speed with an equal amount of torque.

[@TheGoodTheBadTheRowdy]

Is there an awd, diesel, dually, with remote start? In usa?

[@Waldochs]

John great question. We have done a number of Gas for what you are asking about. No diesel’s yet.

[@Unburdened_Beauty]

THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR MY MOBILE CIGAR BAR...….. GOT ONE IN PURPLE???

[@Waldochs]

We can paint it Purple :)

[@dougharitopulos7694]

What's gas mileage on both

[@Waldochs]

Doug Haritopulos it ranges and the size is the van. The best we have gotten is 22 with the eco boost. Average is 15-19 MPG

[@BBBYpsi]

@@Waldochs Which van are you talking about? I want to know the MPG for the high roof dually

[@Tom-qx3oq]

I know a new car dealer probably doesn't want to hear this but when will the used/leases start to come in? I'm absolutely looking for a build out/camper van at the end/middle of 2020.

[@Waldochs]

it will be about 6 month to a year, its still going to be tuff, not everyone orders the AWD van.

[@Tom-qx3oq]

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question

[@reelfishing002]

Looking for a family road trip vehicle, with cargo and pulling a 3,000 trailer , not huge trailer . But don’t want to get stuck on wet grass (been hearing horror story with past transit ) Max MPG would be great too, I know with trailer and cargo and people will affect it , but I rather have one that is the best at fuel if it’s use as a run to the store and back too

[@Waldochs]

You won't get stuck with a RWD if you have limited slip and if there is any weight in the back. I think that story about wet grass is a little over blown and doesn't talk about what the conditions are. I can get a 4x4 F-150 stuck in wet grass if I have the right conditions. Tire and the differential make a world a difference. The street tire from the factory isn't the best for anything beyond the road, but if you went with an all terrain you wouldn't have to worry about it. In your case I would recommend the AWD. I assume from your user name you might have a fishing boat and if so, the AWD will the best thing when unloading/loading your boat at the launch. If you're not going to launch a boat with your Transit and pull an RV/cargo trailer I would go with an RWD for best fuel economy. You will want a good snow tire come winter. Definitely limited slip diff too.

[@MrAWD-ox3gk]

Does it have Rear view camera

[@Waldochs]

Yes it does

[@ThekiBoran]

You can keep those Forest Lake winters.

[@Waldochs]

Hahaha we'll try to do that!

[@malfunctionjunction6212]

Is this swivel seat option on a XLT? Did they move the battery from under the seat to under the hood?

[@Waldochs]

Yes on the XLT (option code 21T) - Requires push down manual parking brake (90G) and Dual AGM batteries (63E) - batteries are still under the driver seat. The 21T will not work on a Passenger Van or Low Roof.

[@malfunctionjunction6212]

@@Waldochs so the van your showing, an XLT and it has a swivel seat?

[@malfunctionjunction6212]

@@Waldochs XLT is a passenger van.

[@Waldochs]

@@malfunctionjunction6212 no this van does not have swivel on the van.

[@Waldochs]

@@malfunctionjunction6212 you can order an XLT without seats so it would not be a passenger van. Have to order option (47D)

[@ИванГригорьев-м8я]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@jeffl2152]

I don't think it is 172" from the rear of seats to the rear doors. It is not that long like what sprinter offers

[@Waldochs]

The specs come directly from Ford.com. Keep in mind, that is a 350 HD, 148" wheelbase, high roof extended. Also known as "long EL" and dealers refer to this setup as "Jumbo." This is the biggest Transit Ford makes. The vehicle itself is 263 inches long. The Sprinter is larger, when going with their longest chassis.

[@Waldochs]

I checked further and measured. From the center of the van, starting from the e-brake housing end to the rear door, it's 166 inches. Not exactly 172 but it's not far off. I tried to figure out where Ford got the 172 inches number without asking Ford Directly, My best guess is with the seat forward then you get 172 inches. I plan on doing a dimensional video of all the chassis and options that I can get my hands on so people can see all these numbers first hand. Thank you for bringing this up!

[@jeffl2152]

@@Waldochs Thank you for trying. There are thousands of guys out there wanting to know the exact dimension from the rear of the seat to the rear door (I guess it is about 154"). Please do a video on measuring the cargo dimension. Thank you very much

[@Waldochs]

@@jeffl2152 We will be doing a video showing the measurements and CAD drawing of our floor plan next week.

[@Waldochs]

@james Noah kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpDdaoODjLCHl5o

[@itsmyleggz]

What does slippery mode really do?

[@Waldochs]

It will balance throttle response, transmission shift points, and steering effort and feel. Basically it counter acts the conditions so that you can maintain traction as much as possible. It works well in snow and ice that's forsure.

[@briancarl224]

The AWD settings also change to optimize performance on slippery roads, for example in the beginning of the video when Alan talks about the AWD power distribution gauge and how the system removes power from the front wheels - you won't see that in Slippery mode. It remains engaged and sends torque constantly in order to perform more like a traditional 4x4 system.

[@Waldochs]

@@briancarl224 Thanks Brian for adding that in. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[@BBBYpsi]

So since your driving it around have you put this van at a discount. I doubt it.

[@Waldochs]

We appreciate your comment. We put on only a few miles for filming and it's no different than if the vehicle was test driven by a dealer or a customer at a dealership. We do discount our demo vehicles but those will have a lot more miles on them.

[@BBBYpsi]

@@Waldochs So I was right you did not give count that particular vehicle which you should because soon as it drives off the lat. It is less valuable

[@sjackson99]

That was a pretty good video but I have to ding you on something so here it is. There is only a magnet on the rear door and it meets up with a metal disk on the side. At least that's the way my 2018 is.

[@Waldochs]

I'm not totally sure what you mean. That's what I was saying in the video, you unlatch the door and then there is a magnet in the door that holds the door to the side of the vehicle. Maybe I said it the other way around and said there is a magnet on the side of the vehicle and not the door? I think that's what you're getting at. Let me know either way so I make sure our content is as accurate as possible. Thank you for the critique!

[@sjackson99]

@@Waldochs It's obvious what you said. I don't need to explain it. I liked how you demonstrated the interior height of the medium and high roof. On forums, people comment that they have a medium roof and there's plenty of headroom. Eventually, you find out that they are only 5'6" tall.

[@Waldochs]

@@sjackson99 No worries, thank you for noticing that! It's something we thought would really help people make purchase decisions easier by explain details like the height and comparing the two. Working on dimensional videos now. Just posted on on the 350HD High roof dimensions. All the video is shot for a 350 Medium roof. That video will be out soon. We'll have a lot of content on the Transit and Promaster coming out soon!

[@ryanmartinage]

I waited a long time for these with them saying the AWD would be an economical upgrade. Just over $4k option. ugh

[@Waldochs]

Compared to a 4x4 upgrade from the aftermarket industry, typically $10K+, the AWD option is economical compared to that. And if you consider a XL F-150 upgrade from 2 wheel drive to 4 wheel, it's roughly $4,600, it makes sense.

[@ryanmartinage]

@@Waldochs I'm happy it's in the market for sure. At this price though, I'd almost rather it be 4x4 and charge a bit more.

[@Waldochs]

@@ryanmartinage Understandable, thanks for the comment!

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@ryanmartinage This isn't made for offroading. I wouldn't want that 4x4 conversion if I were mostly driving on pavement. The van sits super high with the kit installed.

[@ryanmartinage]

@@veganpotterthevegan I understand that. I did get to ride in a Sprinter with 35s on it and it just always left a wish in my heart lol. I do see the purpose in it and Im happy its here. I mean no other company is building an AWD twin turbo cargo van so God bless Ford for that! hah.

[@memyselfandi4668]

Nice

[@Waldochs]

Thanks!

[@syphonefilter]

no swivel seat option?they promised they will have it

[@Waldochs]

1M views Truck Camping yes there is an option for Swivel on the driver and passenger seats. Our seats in the rear of the van all swivel.

[@syphonefilter]

i'm trying to build it on their web page i couldn't find that option maybe not in Canada yet?

[@Waldochs]

@@syphonefilter that should not matter for the option, you might have to you ford dealer near you. If you have any issues let us know we could look into it for you more.

[@311hitwall]

I don't see how Ford sells so many of these with all of the complaints. I know people who have problems complain the loudest but some of this stuff has got to be design flaws that would apply to all of them. I guess companies buy them and get rid of them before they have issues?

[@Waldochs]

All manufactures run into issues. We don't see many or any issues with both the Transit and Promaster chassis. Always gotta keep in mind a lot of issues come from thoses that don't maintain or operate the vehicle properly. If you don't change the oil, you're gonna have problems. You'd be surprised the amount of people that don't even change their oil during their time of ownership with a vehicle. If you're using the vehicle in such a way it wasn't intend, you have a high probability of running into issues. If you want to bring up some of the issues you've found, I'd be glad to discuss what I've seen. I think the big selling point to why Ford sells so many of these van's is because it's built well, it gets good MPG, it can pull well, it has a nice design, drives well, has many dealerships to service it, and it's affordable. I know the majority of owners out there are very happy with their Transit van. Keep in mind, I've seen these vans go 400,000 miles in a short period of time with just basic maintenance. If that isn't reliable, I don't know what is.

[@VoIPPortland]

It delivers power to TWO wheels, the ones getting traction. AWD is nice, but not really 4x4.

[@Waldochs]

No it's not 4x4 by any means. But AWD will work as a better option for most people than true 4x4. It does deliver power to all four wheels but only at certain points, based on the drive mode you're in. You can see what wheels are getting power and what percentage on the dash with Ford's intelligent AWD. When you're in normal mode initially you'll have power to all wheels at take off but as you progress up to speed it takes power away from the front wheels and eventually only delivers power to the rear. If the rear looses traction then it will deliver power to the front wheels to compensate. Again, it all depends on the drive mode. In mud/ruts mode, it does deliver power to all four wheels but it stays in first gear. Not realistic to drive down the road with.

[@thinkingape7655]

Good content, but try getting someone to hold the camera for you and get a wireless mic cuz your audio is trash.

[@Waldochs]

Night Beard thank you for the input, our future videos will be much better. Check back!

[@1bike10]

Sad that it does not have seat belts.

[@Waldochs]

Sorry bad habit moving vehicles. We've made sure this doesn't happen in future videos.

[@memyselfandi4668]

WoW

[@Waldochs]

Thanks!

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Jeez dude...put your seatbelt on!!!

[@Waldochs]

Sorry, bad habit moving vehicles. We made sure this doesn't happen again.

[@imoSTAY]

Please get them imported to NZ, they have such limited van choices.

[@Waldochs]

We have exported our vans to other countries for customers. You would have to purchase the vehicle first and then we would solve the exporting process from there. Thanks for the comment.

[@garys8990]

Would be helpful to give the dimensions such as WL&Height.

[@Waldochs]

We recently made a video on dimensions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpDdaoODjLCHl5o

[@victormccalla9937]

Is it possible to have 15 or 17 seat passenger van with the AWD or 4 × 4

[@mrabrasive51]

Lapel mike..$15.00

[@vegashwk4158]

If you want it for a camper you don’t want those back windows.

[@Waldochs]

Some people do. It all depends on your setup and what you're plans are. We are building a van life van right now with rear windows on it. Thanks for the comment!

[@KenKaiser]

136 inch wheelbase...

[@Waldochs]

Ken, we will get a Transit 130 and 136 Measurement it on our list coming soon.

[@carbonarrow7]

Still just a people hauler and no tow, buy a CHEVY, GM, OR NISSAN.........

[@Waldochs]

Depending on the Model the Ford Transit can tow up to 7500 lbs, thank you for your input.

[@carbonarrow7]

@@Waldochs NOT THE PASSENGER VANS.

[@Waldochs]

@@carbonarrow7 correct, but we can make a passenger van so it will, if you ever needed.