Walk on the woo side episode 2: Alan Wycherley

Alan discusses woo, Dan Doherty, MMA, his KZbin channel, and toxicity on social media.

[@LowKickSlick]

Great interview - enjoyed & respect the viewpoints. Nice to hear your overall martial background as well Alan!

[@onemanstampede9881]

Very informative chat guys. Very nice of @indefenceofthetraditionalma to point that the toxicity goes both ways on social media.

[@MartialArtUK]

@onemanstampede9881 that's a good comment, it's like that fire with fire saying isn't it , we all know if someone comes at us with bad intent, they get it back, if it's given its got to be taken . For me the idea that martial arts is defence against bullies is paramount . Hello gracie only supported the idea that martial arts are to help the weak protect themselves from the strong, kano judo he didn't agree with competition , it breeds conceited individuals. There are alot of really awful demos of Japanese arts, weird ones of Russian arts, most people don't attack then although they could we know its kinda pointless, finding some old video saying he can't fight oh whatever, we all know they are demos . Back to your comment personally I find if we approach a teacher or person with a open mind we can learn from them, when we don't, we can't find anyone to learn from . Thank you happy training ☯️

[@ShikonMA]

Enjoyed the interview, you’ve cracked a good ‘niche’ Tai Chi area there well done Paul and Alan.

[@martialgeeks]

Just subscribed to the channel! Looking forward to it's growth, love the name too! haha, Alan's awesome, great host, great guest

[@ShorelineTaiChi]

02:47 Chen ZiQiang in Denver, is one of the most popular ones.

[@Internalflow33]

He is not in UK for the challenge.

[@ShorelineTaiChi]

I'm not proposing any challenge! Just naming the video under discussion.

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@ShorelineTaiChiyes, you are right, that’s the one

[@MartialArtUK]

Lots of chen people here In the uk that are good , very good , but attitude is important when approaching one .

[@MartialArtUK]

​@ShorelineTaiChi lots of great chen and other tai chi people here. But challenging without them knowing online doesn't count . There is even competitions if you want to challenge yourself or others , those people normally go to them. ☯️

[@resonance10]

Good interview but if I may offer a critique. Perhaps less interrupting the guest? Good stuff though looking forward to more from the channel.

[@PracticeTaiji]

Thanks for sharing. Been watching Alan's videos lately. Even subscribed couple months ago. Don't agree with everything he says, but I think what he's doing is fair. Controversial, but fair. I also think if anyone is afraid of what he's saying, it says more about them than him.

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

Thank you for your honest assessment 🙏🏻

[@ShorelineTaiChi]

02:30 This is the "Huang versus wrestler" video - kzbin.infov8SW41XjBpk

[@martialgeeks]

18:19 oooh Clive...publicly says yes, than privately attacks and changes the agreement, then threatens about sharing private conversation...that's such covardly behaviour, just say no to the challenge publicly and it's all fine...

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

Right!?

[@Internalflow33]

Well said and quite interesting talk guys. I hope Joey watches this and stands up to & addresses his own bullying bullshit! Unless he condones his own behaviour 😅😅😅 BIG cry baby he is!

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

Doubtful but we can hope

[@Nicklous200]

Alan misrepresented his style of arguing and his own reasonableness. Naturally he thinks of himself as more reasonable than he actually is. I blocked him on facebook after an interaction about a jon jones spinning elbow video. I pointed out the flaws with using the technique and that in many circumstances it is easily blocked and makes you vulnerable to chokes or strikes to the back of the head. Alan’s response was to claim (and abusively repeat) that i said i was a better fighter than jon jones and that i thought i could kick jon jones ass. Those were not assertions that i made. So he is blocked because he doesnt want to engage with what people actually say. An honest part of this video is where he admits he’s not really interested in connecting with people who may have had different experiences than himself. Most people dont have interest in engaging with someone whose intention is to look for ways to embarrass. Instead of seeing the lack of engagement as a problem that Alan should fix in the pursuit of knowledge, Alan sees the lack of engagement as evidence that his perspective is correct. It’s self-reinforcing…. One might even say it’s a form of self-hypnosis. “I am right because nobody wants to play with me and prove me wrong.” The lack of curiosity about why people arent engaging and the disinterest in resolving the issues to pursue knowledge is clear. The taoist style of nei gong training i learned is not at all like what Alan described here (not physically intense the way he described). And that’s okay. But it highlights how diverse the martial arts world is and how important it is to be truly open to different perspectives.

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

Nice essay on how I hurt your feelings so much. I’m sorry me pointing out that possible the greatest mma fighter of all time knows a bit more about striking than you do. The fact you think joeys interview was respectful whilst criticising mine should be a huge red flag for anyone for anyone considering taking your opinion seriously.

[@Nicklous200]

@@indefenceofthetraditionalma you’re STILL doing the things i blocked you for on facebook, just moving the venue here. Congrats on not learning. You never hurt my feelings at all.

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@Nicklous200 you’re definitely showing why you blocked me, that’s for sure…

[@Nicklous200]

@@indefenceofthetraditionalma well we agree on that. You want to assume jon jones is infallible just because he is famous, and believe that no one is allowed to point out some obvious flaws in what he is showing or doing, which is problematic and illogical on your part. I guarantee even he himself doesnt see himself as infallible. And ALL of the things i said about spinning elbow were valid critiques. That you’re continuing to propagate the “jon jones cant be criticized” fallacy does indeed show why i blocked you.

[@Nicklous200]

And as you admitted yourself, you’re a third-rate amateur. So, your opinion that jon jones is infallible is indeed reflective of that.

[@whiteeagle7914]

Can't believe you misquoted Joey about something that you have a personal recording of 🤣🤣🤣

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@whiteeagle7914 what was misquoted?

[@whiteeagle7914]

@@indefenceofthetraditionalma its all on record just watch it. also dont forget my other comment needs an answer

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@whiteeagle7914so you can’t answer the question? Why are you being dishonest?

[@whiteeagle7914]

@@indefenceofthetraditionalma So you didn't pay close attention to what you quoted, then spoke about incorrectly, and now you want me to do your homework for you? That doesn't sound like a very good deal LMAO! Do your own homework. Also didn't i offer to pay for you to go to a seminar held by adam so that this conversation could be ended once and for all? Are you scared to do that?

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@whiteeagle7914 such a sad man. I haven’t misquoted anyone in this interview and your lack of proof shows that. I don’t suppose you’re U.K. based?

[@Bullyhunter1]

Im interested to know , how many hours training in person with mr docherty? What grade or level ? Did they talk ? Did they get along ? Who else taught him how many hours ? Did they get along ? Is this a wu dang style uk or international instructor or representative? Thank you.

[@indefenceofthetraditionalma]

@@Bullyhunter1 this is an account created by martialuk to back himself up online. Truly tragic. I have a video proving it on my channel for anyone interested

[@MartialArtUK]

I'm very surprised to see this guy on here.