Walking With Beasts: Episode 5 - Sabre Tooth Retrospective

[@benpaterson2237]

At long last, Ep.5! Sabre Tooth was my favorite growing up for its unique setting and soundtrack. Very fun seeing more giant flightless birds as well.

[@gladiolus5377]

The Megatherium was my absolute favorite creature from this episode (that introduced me to the animal). You are so lucky to have the animatronic arm in your possession.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

9:20 Bear in mind Smilodon were very specialized animals that make modern big cats look downright gracile in comparison and a lone individual may lack the stealth and speed to successfully stalk prey. There is a reason why they didn't just switch to smaller and swifter animals like deer at the end of the ice age, as seen in Prehistoric Park, they are built for a world of larger, slower animals and especially might need pack tactics to successfully catch swifter prey.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Or maybe the different species had different social lives.

[@GallowglassVT]

Should probably say that Smilodon pack dynamics would probably be less like lions and more like wolves according to current research because they haven't noticed an extreme amount of size differences between the sexes. Therefore, the pack would probably be made up of a breeding pair and their young with potentially a few unrelated individuals.

[@laurachapple6795]

I'm sorry, but I cannot accept a naked ground sloth. It's ten times more cursed than the St Bernard smilodon.

[@michaeldeak5727]

Wait a few months and see if it still holds up.....

[@maozilla9149]

20:38 i think that is possible that the horse is Hippidion, a genus of prehistoric horses that lived in South America. and It is replaced by a juvenile Macrauchenia in the episode.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

AFAIK in the Spanish version of the WWB book it was referred as Hippidion.

[@maozilla9149]

true@@miquelescribanoivars5049

[@HodgePodge7]

16:34 Hilarious! Excellent review and choice of prop to wrap your entire persona around haha!

[@joshuaW5621]

Cool of you to own the actual arm of the giant sloth.

[@gianmarcozampella5138]

I remember always loving Half Tooth,he's always been so iconic to me,to the point I looked up to him,he was somewhat my hero,the Godzilla type of character of my childhood,I rooted so hard for him,while I always felt pure hate for the brothers. I also have a fond memory of trying to imitate the awesome hunt scene,with the sequence playing in the background,specifically the lead female's sprint,yeah,I was a very weird kid,now I'm just an odd manchild. Last,but not least,the soundtrack here absolutely slaps,10/10 bangers. Looking forward to the retrospective of my favorite episode!

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

I love Half tooth as well.

[@plukovnik-skvelous]

Truly an excellent video today. Sabre tooth is probably my favourite episode of the whole series, so I highly enjoyed this retrospective.

[@frogglen6350]

this was where I learned that saber tooth tiger wasn't a thing. But it still sounds cool.

[@speedracer2008]

The Smilodon sounds seem to incorporate lion roars, such as when Half-Tooth roars at the terror birds as they run away.

[@speedracer2008]

13:58 Eremotherium laurillardi was pretty close in size to Megatherium americanum. I might be wrong, but I believe the former genus may have actually been considered a North American species of Megatherium at one point, possibly due to its similar size.

[@blakewyattdunfee2]

I always assumed that the pile of rocks collapsed on top of the cubs due to the heavy rainfall. Which crushed the cubs under the rock piles weight.

[@speedracer2008]

On rewatch, I've noticed a few tiger roars appear to have been used for the Smilodon roars in this episode.

[@Freakears]

The Megatherium was always the highlight of this episode for me. One of my favorite prehistoric creatures.

[@speedracer2008]

Doedicurus has a great design in this show, but my one criticism of it is that it lacks an obvious "helmet" of scutes on the top of its head. Life on Our Planet (2023) remedied this, plus giving them flanges on their cheeks like modern armadillos. The latter show has my favorite Doedicurus design.

[@AncientRealms1999]

That's a good point actually

[@speedracer2008]

@@AncientRealms1999 I don’t blame you for not bringing this up in the design. It’s difficult to notice, unless you look at stills. Plus, there were more important points to make in this review.

[@j.m.marshall669]

I still correct people to this day when they say "Sabretooth Tiger", and Darius in Camp Cretaceous called it a tiger as well, he should have probably known better. I remember watching Primeval series 1 episode 4 when Helen says "You want me to help? Alright, I'll help. Unless you act within the next few hours, a pride of sabre-toothed killers will be rampaging throughout central London" and then we hear feline roars and growls as Cutter listens in shock at the convincing claim, I immediately thought back to this episode of WWB and the sabretooth episode of Prehistoric Park, thinking oh boy, this is going to get dangerous. The dodos infected with the parasite (possibly originating in the future and may have even inspired folklore about vampires in the dark ages) was still pretty interesting, although why it made Tom's eyes glow remains a mystery to me, it takes me out of the moment a bit, it looks a bit off. I also like to think Primeval did "The Last of Us" before The Last of Us, that Future Fungus from series 4 could have been devastating to the world had that anomaly opened up in a time before the creation of the ARC. Every time I see the spaghetti junction of anomalies in that series 1 episode I think the entire history of the world is subject to revision because what if a few Future Predators made their way into the Middle Ages or in the Roman Coliseum a Giganotosaurus emerged instead of one of the temporally-accurate. Nothing is safe, history could be rewritten countless times. Surprised you didn't put the audio of Sid saying "Help, a tiger!" when Half-Tooth walks by the Giant Ground Sloth, and maybe Diego saying "I don't eat junk food" as Half-Tooth walks on. Good video as well 🙂

[@coconutthecockatiel478]

Ohhh dude this was my favorite episode

[@azaanimations319]

I think the reused Propalaeleotherium in that promo pic might be meant to represent a juvenile Hippidion, a South American horse from the Pliocene and Pleistocene.

[@frogglen6350]

The clips you use for jokes are funny. Cingrats on own that megatherium claw

[@speedracer2008]

They could have set this episode in Brazil, considering they shot it in the same location, which hasn't changed over millions of years, and many of the fauna shown in this episode lived in that location.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

I feel like the prehistoric park is not the same franchise has the walking with series I think it’s is own thing. I do love the smilodon design of walking with beasts, but I don’t think you didn’t have a Mane like a modern lion. Also, I do believe that Smilodon was a solitary Hunter, because there is a book that Dr. Larry Martin, who is a sabertooth expert rip he said that Smilodon’s brain was more about of a jaguar, so it was a solitary Hunter. I do like spots on smilodon, but it should work only on fatalis and grocils since they live in forested areas while populater lived in more grassland areas so we’ll probably have like a lion like coat but I still like the story and it’s my favorite episode

[@tyrannotherium7873]

Yep they did use blackbear lion and tiger and also jaguar sound

[@speedracer2008]

Some of the lion roars used for the Smilodon in this show were used for a video I saw recently that recreates the climax from Disney's The Jungle Book (1967) using Luz from Owl House as Mowgli, Po from Kung Fu Panda (2008) as Baloo and Scar from The Lion King (1994) as Shere Khan. Here's a link to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baOoiKuhrcukosk. The video is in Spanish, tho, since the audio used is the Latin Spanish dub of The Jungle Book (1967).

[@CameronKiesser]

I have Land of Lost Monsters on DVD and ripped it, and upscaled it. I have yet to find a copy of Monsters We Met and it's sad.

[@KingTvlip]

Very good video as always! Speaking of "Monsters We Met" I own a dvd collection of this series in good condition, if you ever need a copy you can hit me up!

[@SamSays101]

That’s so cool you have that - Il jealous !!

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

❤ The birds in that 😮 episode.

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

This is probably gonna be a hot take. I will say, of the 3 Smilodon & 3 Phorusrhacos designs we got from Impossible Pictures & Framestore, the Walking with Beast ones are my least favourite.

[@smashers6971]

Kind of late, but I definitely think that if you have a problem with how the terror birds are handled, there’s a technical rewrite of the Episode called “End of a Dynasty” focusing on the tragedy of a Titanis being alone during mating season around the time more modern predators made their way to South America, it even intersects with the original episode plot at some points (With the Terror bird eating the last of Half Tooth’s kids instead of the brothers and the bird delivering a fatal kick to one of the brothers instead of a megatherium pimp slapping them) it’s a good read for those that want a more accurate retelling of this episode.

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

I give Saber Tooth 9.8/10.

[@LoudmouthReviews]

21:20 holy shit that joke is dark

[@frogglen6350]

That is crazy how big cats use to have big saber teeth.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

That’s a beat with the lips has already been debunked, and according to Maricio aton who is a Paleo artist, he even said that it won’t work because they would have floppy like jowls like a mastiff or bloodhound, and they get a lot of infections so Smilodon with lips would probably be the same thing, and I almost forgot I’m glad that the narrator said that there is no such thing as a sabertooth tiger but yet there are clowns out there that still say sabertooth tiger, and it makes me wanna strangle them like a chicken lol but yet other documentaries, they still say sabertooth tiger know it’s sabertooth cat not tiger. There’s a big difference.

[@exalt2674]

21:27 what is the one that isn't this, Prehistoric Park, or Primeval?

[@AncientRealms1999]

Walking With Beasts, Prehistoric Park, Primeval Series 2 Episode 3 and 7

[@exalt2674]

@@AncientRealms1999 thanks

[@wroggisaurusmarshalli2440]

12:16 Will you ever show this collection and tell some curiosities about them ( ex. how you got the ground sloth arm )?

[@AncientRealms1999]

I will at some point make a video showing the rest of my collection sure!

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

​@@AncientRealms1999Saber Tooth gave me 😎 ☠ and 😰 vibes.

[@thegreatprimevalshow]

Oh no! A Tiger! Help! Help!

[@Phlox_In_A_Nutshell]

“I don’t eat junk food”

[@Mammothar2455]

Do you think Wildlife Park 2 got direct permission from bbc for the designs? Because they are just to similar to WWB's models and textures almost to the point that it seems like they got the direct 3d models and just made them lower poly.

[@AncientRealms1999]

It's possible yeah

[@robotwarsfan]

will you do the rest of the walking with series?

[@AncientRealms1999]

Probably in the future yeah

[@ryanbarth6691]

When will mammoth journey be done

[@AncientRealms1999]

Working on it now it should be out soon enough

[@tm43977]

It's here Of wwb retrospective

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

16:55 I'm pretty sure that the macrauchenia leg's are way too skinny, their manus is almost rhino like when seen from the front, which makes sense given they were nearly as heavy as a black rhino.

[@speedracer2008]

I think Monsters We Met has full episodes on KZbin.

[@AncientRealms1999]

I think they're very low quality unfortunately

[@speedracer2008]

@@AncientRealms1999 Dang. I'm hoping you get to see a good quality episode of Monsters We Met at some point, cause I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@AncientRealms1999]

@@speedracer2008 it would be fun to talk about yeah, equally wild new world which I do have a DVD copy of so could do a review of in the future

[@speedracer2008]

@@AncientRealms1999 I'd love to hear you talk about Wild New World. I used to watch it all the time (albeit under the name Prehistoric America).

[@bkjeong4302]

The idea S. populator went extinct from climatic changes is hilarious considering it was well-adapted for both warmer and colder climates (and S. fatalis was outright specialized warmer forested habitats), as was presumably a lot of its prey (it even hunted caiman on occasion). The Great American Biotic Interchange involved far less (if any) outcompeting than traditionally assumed….mostly because the various supposedly outcompeted South American lineages were already gone or close to it by that point and because the few that weren’t (like the Xenarthra) thrived even after the Interchange. So that entire narrative with terror birds being outcompeted is also inaccurate, though this is more due to the episode being outdated. Aside from everything else with the terror bird, its entire body shape is wrong: a lot of media and even actual studies wrongly rely on instruct h proportions for larger phorusrhacids when we know from Paraphysornis that they were much bigger-bodied and shorter-necked for a given height, making then about twice as heavy as often assumed.

[@ИнгорьАшт]

But the proportions of the kelenken are more like those of an ostrich than those of a paraphysornis. Doesn't this suggest that the later large terror birds had a light build?

[@bkjeong4302]

@@ИнгорьАшт They weren’t closer to an ostrich.

[@ИнгорьАшт]

​@@bkjeong4302 Do you know anything about Kelenken? He had a rather long and thin tarsometatarsus, which indicates a lighter build, unlike paraphysornis.

[@bkjeong4302]

@@ИнгорьАшт Except it DIDN’T have a long and thin tarsometatarsus (especially compared to an ostrich), the original study was wrong on that.

[@ИнгорьАшт]

​@@bkjeong4302 Can I get the source of this information?

[@hariengradford2699]

15:33 pretty sure he had 2 cubs to begin with

[@Darth_Critikal]

How much for the arm? 😂 I wish they tried to preserve all the puppets in a museum or something. Walking With series have the best creature designs!

[@adamthespinygiant]

I thought this was going to be an April Fool’s video

[@AncientRealms1999]

The timing of the video's completion just happened to coincide with this date 😂

[@adamthespinygiant]

@@AncientRealms1999 also #SidDidNothingWrong

[@dagoodboy6424]

I love the gags there very funny. Its also cool how u have the sloth hand. Idl the smilodon in this doc. I find it kinda ugly. I also dont like any of prehistoric parks creature designs so i couldnt enjoy it even when i was younger but this one is cool.

[@landenriley8442]

Monsters we met is on youtube

[@googley2668]

i find the smilodon head far too long, much like a bear, not as much like a cat, not bad other than that, and maybe its just me. but it has a too long face i feel

[@sevenidols607]

It amazed me to learn no phorusrachids lived to the time of this episode. I assumed some kind of terror bird lived alongside smilodon. But no Walking with Beasts is really that bad.

[@sevenidols607]

Also, that picture shows terror birds eating foals of horses that beasts claims lived in South America. It's from the book and part of the expanded story there.

[@speedracer2008]

21:27 If I had a nickel for every time a Smilodon cub died in a documentary, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

[@Spiritstage]

Find me to be honest, make your work in mysterious ways. It will be surprisingly actually find a bird full in attack in mud. It would just be like a Chinese egg what’s the embryo still inside God? I wonder what it taste like after all these years

[@Lurtz848]

23:06 I've always hated this scene, in general I don't really like the way the terror birds are shown in this ep, it disgusts me the way this terror bird gets its freshly killed prey stolen by a badly smilodon fed without even attempting to fight

[@wildtom3076]

No comment on the shitty Primeval: New World terror bird design?

[@pedrogabrielduarte4544]

I'm from Brazil

[@John-tc5wp]

I really like your videos and take on things but those ''B-rolls'' or whatever they called, from other movies and TV shows are so incredibly annoying. I really wanted to watch the whole thing but I had to give up in three quarters because it was just way too much. If it's here and there and relatable like Prehistoric Park, perhaps. But all other things are just annoying. Sorry, just giving an honest feedback! ;) Otherwise, I really to like your take on Walking with! Let alone your impressive collection of memorabilia! Good on you mate!

[@AncientRealms1999]

Thanks for the feedback

[@maxmantell5009]

Smilodon is still alive April fools