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The Problem With Jon Stewart

The Problem With Jon Stewart

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@forloveofthepage2361
@forloveofthepage2361 2 жыл бұрын
This guy ignored the fact that they changed the rules to help the big wallets. Wallstreet won because they paid for the rules to change. Every time Jon nails him on a double standard he changes the subject instantly. Good attempt Jon, but this guy was not listening, he was running damage control for the people you're calling out. Another pivot. "Wallstreet rigs the system with complexity." "Well the system is complex because finance companies want to make money off it." The gymnastics needed to make that statement is astounding. "What would you fix?" The balls on this guy.
@jvillanueva7707
@jvillanueva7707 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of balls you mean. The guy's a journalist, he's supposed to be shining a light on those dark inner workings, but instead just shrugs it off focusing more on the surface level stuff to blame retail investors, because "ehh, what can we do shrug..."
@forloveofthepage2361
@forloveofthepage2361 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvillanueva7707 he has huge, bought and paid for balls. He knows what hand feeds him.
@jvillanueva7707
@jvillanueva7707 2 жыл бұрын
@@forloveofthepage2361 if he had balls he'd be biting that hand right off. He's been neutered, and is being a good little pup.
@forloveofthepage2361
@forloveofthepage2361 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvillanueva7707 only if they pay him to bite. They might like it. Don't judge.
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 2 жыл бұрын
How do you propose this complexity be simplified? People don't understand related rates because they didn't pay attention in high school. That's on them.
@unluckygamer692
@unluckygamer692 2 жыл бұрын
Jon: " Damn, Wall Street sure is corrupt don't you agree?" Spencer: "So anyways, have you heard of this other thing? Damn that sure is corrupt right?"
@nathangaytano1431
@nathangaytano1431 2 жыл бұрын
Corruption at its finest.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
Cut off their government money and let them fail.
@greg-op2jh
@greg-op2jh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogersmith7396 amen
@sidewinder3781
@sidewinder3781 2 жыл бұрын
The reporter literally said money has the power. How much more do you want from a guy trying to keep his job?
@larzkruber822
@larzkruber822 2 жыл бұрын
His stupid comparison told me everything about him. Buying in mcdonalds and be suprised that cows get killed? We didn´t know! It was labeled as vegan bugers!
@cyberiad
@cyberiad 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still sometimes surprised when Jon pushes back and KEEPS PUSHING. And the surprise I feel makes me uncomfortably aware that I'm conditioned to expect interviewers to let themselves be steamrolled. Jon has incredible skill and spine, I'm so happy he's back!
@Bibliotics
@Bibliotics 2 жыл бұрын
John Stewart definitely came back with a fire from his hiatus. I can’t say how much I appreciate his program every week.
@nacarreira777
@nacarreira777 2 жыл бұрын
So do I! I'd like to see him take on the fact that our elected officials trade stocks while in office....disgusting.
@ChaChingDream
@ChaChingDream 2 жыл бұрын
Jon is making the noise that's needed and this could be his biggest life-changing difference people look a lifetime to make. Keep the heat on Jon. We are all behind you!
@ayyydn
@ayyydn 2 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful comment and I hope we keep the heat/power behind him because it truly matters in the day to day difference of many people
@D_Trade
@D_Trade 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and wholeheartedly stand behind it. But we have to stand together to make a difference. The division is (by design in my opinion) so strong, nothing is going to change
@zonku540
@zonku540 2 жыл бұрын
Jon I am SO glad your voice is back and saying what's needed to be said. America has and will always need your ability unapologetically to cut straight to the point
@MikeyJJJ
@MikeyJJJ 2 жыл бұрын
@Comp exactly! Because that is exactly what Jon is advocating!
@oldslowcoach
@oldslowcoach 2 жыл бұрын
@Comp so cheating the system is smart? And playing fairly is stupid?
@hermesgestistruism
@hermesgestistruism 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for defending us, Jon. We need systemic reform or we'll never be able to invest in our own financial futures with a fair possibility of a positive outcome. "Stay out of the market" is a non-answer, you were right to press on that. We should be able to invest without literally being cheated. Chasing ghosts... If it's ghosts we're chasing, how are we actually exposing real monsters one after another instead? ✌️❤️🔮
@AlbertCloete
@AlbertCloete 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Jon Stewart understands exactly what's going on with this saga. So good to have a highly watched celebrity in the know and shining light on this issue.
@benk9973
@benk9973 2 жыл бұрын
Next week's headlines "Jon Stewart is racist transphobe misogynist blah blah" it'll happen. Maybe not next week but once he starts ruffling feathers he's gonna get canceled
@Bisquick
@Bisquick 2 жыл бұрын
I would say he vaguely intuits what is going on and is surely giving a voice to the nebulous, but very correct no doubt, notion that _something_ is fucked which is no doubt closer to reality than living in the transparently unsustainable contradiction riddled hellscape that we all know at some level that it is, while also believing its ubiquitous delusional apologia masquerading as "natural" or "objective" (a conflation of "is" and "ought" primarily, as Hume would put it), _but_ the enormous gaping ideological lacuna obscuring the full picture here is the "business ontology" necessarily cultivated over time when living within the mode of production of capitalism (or more accurately, when circumstantially and arbitrarily born into a position where sustaining one's life materially in such a social order is even possible; ie the relative comfort afforded to the bourgeoisie - aka owners of property capable of being a "means of production" node - from within the core of a global financial empire that remains largely unseen by most). And _there_ is the _actual_ problem at its root and uncoincidentally the one that has been taken off the table in peoples' minds after decades and decades of red scare propaganda because the reality is both Jon and Spencer are correct here ostensibly merely without the ability to imagine an alternative to capitalism because of that ingrained assumption that "there is no alternative" (as Thatcher put it). _"It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism"_ indeed. But not only _is_ there an alternative, if our goal is to live on a habitable fucking planet, which is you know, kind of a precondition for anything else, that alternative _must_ be brought about. We've dug ourselves into a giant civilizational hole here and upon becoming conscious of this have apparently decided the supposed solution to this is to dig that hole more furiously than ever, just pure social inertia keeping this shitshow going at this point. What maintains that social inertia at its foundation (ie how we organize material reality in terms of ownership and control, out of which emerges the implicit social organization that dictates _class_ ) and boundaries (the impossibility of reform being only _one_ such boundary) will reveal the whole thing clearly, and this is far more easily grasped when we zoom out to a macro geopolitical level and apply a materially grounded analytical lens to history and its progression. Doing so we can pretty clearly see a continuous thread of class struggle, the modern age being carried forth in the fervent working class radicalism of the sans-culottes, their idealism slowly falling out of favor with the bourgeoisie in the National Convention in the French revolution as their egalitarian project encroached on this middle-class material power, despite riding this momentum to overthrow the Ancien régime. This is the concept of "historical materialism" (undergirded by a "process metaphysics" consideration of "dialectical materialism", as opposed to a more Kantian notion of insulated "things in themselves" - if too jargon-y don't worry about it lol) and it's why that Marx guy, as it turns out, was absolutely correct and why people should absolutely read what he wrote for themselves as it will _actually explain_ and clarify everything rather than further abstracting/obscuring it. His conclusions are accurate specifically because, unlike the caricature of moralizing dumbass painted of him in the hegemonic cultural memory, he _intentionally avoids_ normative claims to critically examine systemic functionality at a purely _descriptive_ level (ie _materially grounded_ in a Thucydides-esque way; the shortcut to cut through rhetorical shibboleths/ideological smokescreens being to ask what is really the _only_ political question: 'cui bono?' who benefits?) because as Sartre succinctly described the causality here, it is necessarily the case that "existence _precedes_ essence," precisely why all these reactionary right-wing attempts to explain...really, anything...are inherently flawed as the always rely on a normative notion of essence, particularly of "culture" without ever considering that "culture" doesn't spontaneously generate from the ether and is the result of how material reality is organized and bounds possibility (in our case strictly bound to profitability of course). _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air_ [Metaverse/NFTs/Crypto/finance/tech bs, all unconsciously undergirded by global US corporate empire entirely taken for granted], _all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy (Marx to not be pointlessly facetious), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us... There's really only two choices for humanity, to echo Rosa Luxemburg during and prior to the 1918 German uprisings that lead to the recapitulation of the Liberal state merely without the Kaiser, before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's ostensibly _social democratic_ party, instantly echoing and resonating the truth of such a succinct political dichotomy to this day: *socialism or* [continued] *barbarism.* _"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently."_ - the late great David Graeber
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 2 жыл бұрын
A little knowledge and a LOT of common sense as well as experiance goes a VERY, VERY long way.
@johnjacopec6668
@johnjacopec6668 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon Stewart for talking about these real problems that no other media digs in on. From Corona to now a war, they dont ever talk about these very real problems right here in our country. Please keep talking about these economic issues.
@cody8009
@cody8009 2 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody that is not afraid of saying the truth, thank you JON. Fair markets, that is all we want
@princephrog
@princephrog 2 жыл бұрын
Jon literally ran circles around his guy. Spencer's entire argument was to acknowledge that there are problems with the system, but that the status quo should be maintained. What the hell is this guy on about?!
@cericat
@cericat 2 жыл бұрын
About 6 figures at a guess. Expecting the WSJ or any of their staff not to support Wall Street is pointless, they're deeply embedded in it and always have been.
@SirPumpkinhead
@SirPumpkinhead 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree w you. Spencer is being dishonest and disingenuous.
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 2 жыл бұрын
Spencer is right. There is no boogie man. There is a reason Jon Stewart, never uses specifics in his complaints.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
@@cericat Yes.
@XboneMalone
@XboneMalone 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but Spencer was arguing that there should be more rules and restrictions placed on the individual investor to stop professionals getting hurt when they short companies.
@danayoung8997
@danayoung8997 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Jon is staying on this. This journalist says he doesn’t have a dog in this fight and I call bullshit.
@CyborgPilord
@CyborgPilord 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand his argument "you can interact with wall street by paying it peanuts or not paying it" then you ARENT participating. Classic deflection bs.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
Since he advises people to just buy index funds, I think he's being genuine. Index funds are low-cost, simple and beat most active managers.
@BT-su1yf
@BT-su1yf 2 жыл бұрын
@@xdrowssap4456 index funds are a really good way to make money over time without as much risk as buying stock in single companies. I’ve made a decent amount of money investing in ETF’s over the years. Definitely stayed ahead of inflation. If you don’t want to get your hands dirty, don’t do it, we’ll take those odds and profit. Stay mad buddy.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@xdrowssap4456 There's nothing wrong with renting. I say that as a homeowner who's looking forward to eventually going back to renting.
@quietstorm529
@quietstorm529 2 жыл бұрын
I can't begin to describe my frustration with this journalist. He's the perfect example of "that's just the way it is" there's nothing to be done.
@x1571-i2r
@x1571-i2r 2 жыл бұрын
◾️ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛɪɴɢ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴇᴛᴇʀ ᴍᴇᴋʟɪsʜ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs ᴡʜᴀᴛ’sᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʜɪᴍ ɪ ʀᴇғᴇʀʀᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ ~ 𝟒𝟑𝟒𝟑𝟔𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟑𝟕~ ‪📤…
@epiccollision
@epiccollision 2 жыл бұрын
Not a journalist, bought and paid for shill.
@teenytinytoons
@teenytinytoons 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to be shook.
@goodboid
@goodboid 2 жыл бұрын
You can't make a person understand the problem, when their paycheck depends on them not understanding the problem
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Upton Sinclair.
@katlynklassen809
@katlynklassen809 2 жыл бұрын
When their paycheck depends on there being a problem.
@katlynklassen809
@katlynklassen809 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorberkowitz i wager then he does not truly understand the magnitude of the problem at play here. Otherwise he would be aware his neck is held no differently from the plebeians he attempts to assuage and he is more separate from the controlling interests he seeks to be than the working class is from him. So I don't think he "gets it" so much as kind of sees but won't look at it. Even if someone has an internal awareness of a problem if they do not contemplate and speak on it openly then they will not really have any understanding of it.
@americanviking5298
@americanviking5298 2 жыл бұрын
This. We are money grubbing little cretins aren't we? So easily tempted to hurt others for money.
@stschannelt1476
@stschannelt1476 2 жыл бұрын
What a great way to put it oof!
@shetlandapache949
@shetlandapache949 2 жыл бұрын
The cognitive dissonance necessary for this guy to engage with this system and not see anything wrong with only excluding the people without power already and still see himself as a power for good change is truly impressive. Humans can do anything
@oregonwildboy
@oregonwildboy 2 жыл бұрын
The mental gymnastics is strong in this corrupt dirt bag.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
The man works for the WS Journal for Gods sake. How many radical bomb throwers do they employ?
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't say that. He says, rightly, you can efficiently buy into the system with index funds. They're simple, low-cost, and beat most active managers.
@98ws6m6cvert
@98ws6m6cvert 2 жыл бұрын
He's ignoring it.
@sidewinder3781
@sidewinder3781 2 жыл бұрын
This thread is nuts. He stated up front the best way to create wealth (low-fee index funds) and stated he’s highlighted $100+ million illegal activity in progress. He clearly is beat down by the system and trying to keep his job, but he gave the single most important fact on gaining wealth.
@Arcwol
@Arcwol 2 жыл бұрын
Stewart is simply on top of his game with this episode. This episode was awesome, another excellent interview.
@TheDanielClem
@TheDanielClem 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been a bigger fan of Jon Stewart than I am right now. Great job, Jon!
@bobafett5323
@bobafett5323 2 жыл бұрын
“Misdirecting their anger..” 🤣😂 We know exactly who is responsible for the corruption, who allows it to happen and we see through the BS of most main stream media. Much respect Jon. We have needed this conversation for years. ✊🏽
@redhottoaster2434
@redhottoaster2434 2 жыл бұрын
Dude was definitely told to drive home that point by his hedgie masters.
@kjohntec5530
@kjohntec5530 2 жыл бұрын
"...there is a retirement crises coming..." He said those words without acknowledging that the corruption of wallstreet and corporate greed are what killed the pensions and also what are keeping the average person from having extra money to save more toward retirement. By skimming so much of the individual investor's gains they are getting rich while adding fuel to the upcoming retirement crises. The stock market of today is looking like someplace to put a minority of your investment dollars.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 2 жыл бұрын
The American market isn't the only one available.
@mouseman225
@mouseman225 2 жыл бұрын
This was infuriating. Spencer: "people just need to learn how to engage with the stock market without getting their pockets picked." Jon: "Ok but see, isn't it pretty messed up that picking pockets is legal? We should reform that." Spencer: "Listen, Jon, people are gonna pick pockets. It's up to the CONSUMER to avoid those back alleys and bad neighborhoods." Jon: "Or we could just clean up the back alleys and arrest the pickpockets." Spencer: "No... No... Let's not even focus on the pickpockets, they're just better than you. You should just avoid them if you don't like them."
@DumbledoreMcCracken
@DumbledoreMcCracken 2 жыл бұрын
This is a naïve view of life. You want them to make it easy for you to make money? It is a zero sum game. Any money you make is a lost opportunity for someone else to make money. So, Spencer is saying: If you see an opportunity to buy a stock, you set the price you want to buy it, and put in your order, and you will get it for that price if the market has a fool willing to sell at that price (or you are the fool to pay that much at that time). If you put in a market order, you are going to pay what the brokerage is willing to sell it to you for. But Spencer is also saying, just buy index funds, and hope for the best (if you don't want to play the game of buying an individual stock). Easy peasy.
@OfNoImport
@OfNoImport 2 жыл бұрын
@@DumbledoreMcCracken Uh, no. We don't want them to 'make it easy for us to make money'. We want a level playing field. It only happens that a level playing field would tilt in such a way as to bring retail up and big money down.
@christopher6600
@christopher6600 2 жыл бұрын
@@DumbledoreMcCracken We know what Spencer's saying, and we know it's full of shit, completely ignoring the manipulation and collaboration that goes on to rig the market at the expense of retail investors. It's not naive to challenge the status quo, it's a necessary step towards reform. "Any money you make is a lost opportunity for someone else to make money" - Which is exactly why a rigged market is a problem, and why we should challenge it.
@DumbledoreMcCracken
@DumbledoreMcCracken 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopher6600 Okay, then what is better? I would be surprised that Tulip Speculators in The Netherlands weren't manipulating the market in the 1600s.
@DumbledoreMcCracken
@DumbledoreMcCracken 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfNoImport any tilting of the scale introduces price disruption, yes? Say I want to sell $100000000 worth of shares in a stock, and I will take any price (meaning I will take less than that), am I allowed to sell those shares outright? Or, am I forced to sell based on the terms of some regulatory body that "tilts" the machine?
@SamForViceroy
@SamForViceroy 2 жыл бұрын
What a great master class on how to not answer difficult questions.
@mikhailmobius2308
@mikhailmobius2308 2 жыл бұрын
"There are weapons of mass destruction buried in the corruption of Wall Street" - Jon Stewart 2022. This is now my favorite quote.
@dustinjones8887
@dustinjones8887 2 жыл бұрын
Jon had to call out this WSJ clown at every turn, and did it very well. Jon is saying everything I've ever wanted to say (and ask) about Wall St. What an incredible segment by Jon and Jon alone. Wow
@JrobAlmighty
@JrobAlmighty 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to see him get dirty but I'll vote for him in one damn second if he runs for President because at least he's honest about our problems.
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 2 жыл бұрын
He all but admits it is Wall Street in a casino with much more risk for the individual than their money managers who turn profits no matter the quality of their trades. The Apes did exactly what hedge fund investors do every day with manipulating stock and shorts. It is like only the cops had guns and in one day the citizens became armed. The feckless SEC and corps like Goldman and WSJ do nothing but push the status quo. Go along to get along. Banking deregulation allowed banks to make decent savings accounts obsolete bc they saw a better profit model by making investment your only retirement plan besides social security.
@JrobAlmighty
@JrobAlmighty 2 жыл бұрын
@@petedog9581 notice every time he's cornered he asks well I mean what are we going after? What should we do I mean there's so many issues people should maybe just not buy individual stocks. It's absolutely absurd but to him it sounds okay. I have a friend who is a CFP who says the same kind of bs. Just buy ETFs. Uh yeah I will but how about we address the gd issues while I'm at it. It's like saying, "stop complaining about the number of murders and look at all the speeders we're ticketing!" One is not at the exclusion of the other lol and it's def not prioritized correctly.
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 2 жыл бұрын
@@JrobAlmighty The SEC only enforces speeders with slaps on the wrists. They don't even want to hear about the murders.
@JrobAlmighty
@JrobAlmighty 2 жыл бұрын
@@petedog9581 lmao you're absolutely right. It's a slippery slope for them to even try and when they do it's destined to fail from the beginning. Either through lack of genuine effort or systemic blocks.
@ruthpittman4079
@ruthpittman4079 2 жыл бұрын
People do not need casinos! This guy is a cheerleader for the mob. People read Michael Lewis's book 'Liar's Poker' as a 'How To'... I'm team Jon, thank you for trying to take these reprobates to task.
@martinlutherkingjr.5582
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the fed, people are being forced further and further out on the risk curve to fight inflation. So it’s basically come to people gambling their money.
@RiceChrispy0527
@RiceChrispy0527 2 жыл бұрын
I think some people do need casinos, like actual casinos, not a casino style market system though. But I think from a psychological standpoint, gambling with money is the safer bet for the risk taker type people, who's only option in a world without casinos, is gambling with their lives, taking physical risks. When they could be in a casino where, they can get the same feeling by just losing a few dollars, that they could make back since they're still alive. Just to be clear. I'm not arguing against you about the stock market. Just debating your comment about no one needing casinos. It's just personally, I'd rather drop my spare change in someone's cup, than find their body while I'm out on a hike with my family after that person tried some crazy stunt.
@MysteryKmt
@MysteryKmt 2 жыл бұрын
The goal is to keep retail from getting to real wealth. That's why he advised to buy ETFs, 😆 we need guardrails. The system is rigged, MOASS then burn it down 💎🙌🏼🦍
@Af-rl2gz
@Af-rl2gz 2 жыл бұрын
I can't call it a casino. I have charts and historical information. If you are unable to read it, it may seem like a casino, but clearly, it isn't. How much did brokers take in fees in the 80s? I can trade for almost zero cost today.
@yungchow9555
@yungchow9555 2 жыл бұрын
Cheerleader for the mob? He spits in the face of the mob and simps for keeping things how they are. This guy is not a cheerleader, but an enemy of the mob
@christophertstone
@christophertstone 2 жыл бұрын
This was so infuriating. I don't know how you stand talking to these corporate bootlickers, but I'm glad you are.
@ninakore
@ninakore 2 жыл бұрын
This journalist panicked at being asked to name a sector needing reform and then went on to attack TikTok influencers, like they’re a huge problem. He’s got friends all over Wall Street he doesn’t want to call out.
@GreilMerc7
@GreilMerc7 2 жыл бұрын
There is a scene in the big short where they have irrefutable proof the game (MBS) was rigged and it was going to collapse. The “journalist” gave the runaround about how he was not going burn his friends and connections on Wall Street over the “crack pot theory”. The push back about the situation has and always felt like gas lighting. Why should I trust a media that has repeatedly told me to “Sell now ask questions later”.
@kevinscholer256
@kevinscholer256 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to post same comment..I'm banned from commenting now
@cericat
@cericat 2 жыл бұрын
Look at his employer, the WSJ belongs to Dow Jones (they sold most of their share of the indices to Chicago Media but still hold about 10% I believe), who themselves belong to News Corp. He doesn't need friends on Wall Street to be compromised, he's part of the same system.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised bitcoin did'nt come up. Its the latest scam to fleece the world.
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 2 жыл бұрын
Any time some Wall Street Fund Manager gets on TV saying a certain sector is about to get hit. You can bet that person has shorted that sector making millions on its drop, then buys into it near the bottom to make even more money. How is this not manipulation.
@zehrajafri9252
@zehrajafri9252 2 жыл бұрын
Jon Stewart is great, he's trying his best to understand and cure the corrupt system destroying the planet and all life. 👍 👍 💖
@theotherguy6155
@theotherguy6155 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the problem is though he kept losing focus on the interview. questions were asked and then were diverted to another topic. it's a problem trying to learn on the fly. payment for order flow is not bad. The entire 'problem' with peoples understanding of the PMFOF is the fact they live in the USA, the greatest liquidity market in the entire world. Go to another country and look at the spreads which can be DOLLARS wide. the fact you pay fractions of a penny to get spreads that are pennies wide is absolutely worth it. in fact, most brokerages are losing money on every trade simply because they don't make money from you trading stocks. their goal is to get you in and hopefully you start looking into other derivatives like options, futures, etc.
@barbarabradley8881
@barbarabradley8881 2 жыл бұрын
Ya he is! He is awesome!
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 2 жыл бұрын
Jon Stewart does not understand what is going on. Notice he never talks in SPECIFICS, just some general "system" and "they".
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
He understands completely. He has their number.
@TheCaffeineJitterz
@TheCaffeineJitterz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for applying some pressure and having an actual inquiring conversation.
@orrfannut9527
@orrfannut9527 2 жыл бұрын
This guy sure says a whole lot of nothing while constantly avoiding questions.
@8BitNaptime
@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's his one line resumé.
@philcarpenter
@philcarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
As per the usual crooked financial journalist. It's all a bunch of nothing.
@darylreuben4871
@darylreuben4871 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have missed the main point. It's about '' rules for thee but not for me ''. The problem was that the rules of the game seemed fair as long as Wallstreet was winning, but the moment retail starts winning then suddenly the game isn't fair and Wallstreet wanted to change the rules mid game in order to change the outcome in their favour. Once the rules of a game have been established, you can't change it while the game is going on, you change it afterwards. They halted the game in mid play. For a situation such as Gamestop, it was clearly stated by multiple people, including the CEO of Interactive brokers ( I think, might have been a different broker ) that the price of Gamestop would have definitely gone far into the THOUSANDS if they did not halt it and change the god damn rules of the game. This is why people are pissed. All these points you made are relevant and 100% part of the problem, but please grill people on this.
@darrenwilkinson1742
@darrenwilkinson1742 2 жыл бұрын
“APE’S” participated in GameStop to bloody the nose of a corrupt institution. Period. Any industry that can short sell more than 100% of a something with a finite quantity. And it was hilarious and glorious!
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 жыл бұрын
But ultimately it changed nothing.
@lexerdaniel4843
@lexerdaniel4843 2 жыл бұрын
BlackRock, the world’s largest shadow bank, thanks you for inflating the price for long enough for it to make billions. Them and the multiple hedge funds that didn’t short GME and bought in to make obscene profits off the short squeeze. You didn’t win anything; you didn’t change the system or expose anyone. You just gave your money to other powerful people.
@Highhook1818
@Highhook1818 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexerdaniel4843 I changed something: my retirement balance. Doubled it at ago 59 so I can now retire at 61 not 67. People who were in it for the "movement" lost their ass, and as you say, just gave (lost) their money as the moment the media picked up the story it was waay to late in the game to "stick it to the man" or make any money.
@zackeryrussell7744
@zackeryrussell7744 2 жыл бұрын
@@Highhook1818 exactly. Moon soon.
@mercedes932
@mercedes932 2 жыл бұрын
Jon is a voice of reason in these turbulent times
@emhu2594
@emhu2594 2 жыл бұрын
What we need is a voice of power.
@mercedes932
@mercedes932 2 жыл бұрын
@@emhu2594 Unfortunately it seems that all voices of power currently are corrupted by self-interest or corporate greed
@martinlutherkingjr.5582
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 2 жыл бұрын
@@emhu2594 Distributing the power to multiple voices is preferable IMO.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
And completely ignored by the powers that be.
@MacNif
@MacNif 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorberkowitz and Morgan Freenan, and Russell Brand
@Kalepsis
@Kalepsis 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Jon on this. If an institution is broken and corrupt, you don't waste money fixing the admissions office, you need to fix the institution.
@BadAssElf810
@BadAssElf810 2 жыл бұрын
The key to fixing it is not within the system itself. As Spencer said: WallStreet gets the rules it wants". Why? because they pay our elected officials to give them those rules. The only solution is to have publicly funded elections where every taxpayer/citizen gets the same amount of $ through some kind of voucher system to donate to people running for office. No Corporations, banks, or PACs etc get to donate. And then elected officials cannot trade but can put their savings into index funds.
@SharienGaming
@SharienGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@BadAssElf810 while thats a very much required step - after that is done, the system still needs to be fixed... the corrupt rules are already in place after all but i agree - if you dont take away moneys ability to make the rules... you dont have a snowballs chance on the sun to fix it
@claudiaroedel1368
@claudiaroedel1368 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, thank you for this series. For years I have been saying that betting on horse races is safer than investing in the stock market, because the system is rigged. Thank you so much for shining a light on it and pushing for change!
@unipartyhellscape8895
@unipartyhellscape8895 2 жыл бұрын
Stewart treated this “financial reporter” with kid gloves and still made him look like the bootlicking tool of the billionaire class that he is. Well done sir.
@JK_Clark
@JK_Clark 2 жыл бұрын
The other guy's analogy is a casino, and he's encouraging investing in low-cost index funds. Didn't see any 'bootlicking', just a pragmatic assessment of the reality in Wall Street.
@killzone866
@killzone866 2 жыл бұрын
Are you 12? The guys point is that people will get fucked if they play the game. The game is rigged. Regulation needs to happen, but again the game is rigged.
@unipartyhellscape8895
@unipartyhellscape8895 2 жыл бұрын
@@JK_Clark Stewart mentions reforming Wall Street about a dozen times and the reporters response to that was to change the subject. That’s the form his bootlicking comes in. The wealthy don’t want any rules for their casino and this reporter is all too willing to shut down any talk of that.
@SirMonday
@SirMonday 2 жыл бұрын
@@killzone866 Yes, and when asked "how do we reform Wall Street" or "what reforms would you suggest", he kept turning back to "apes bad, too much risk, buy low cost index funds, don't pick stocks". He's a broken record whenever someone presses him to talk about the actual problems rather than returning to an at longest 2 month period over a year ago.
@jeremiahbuck2450
@jeremiahbuck2450 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon Stewart for being a voice to represent the average Joe who is also trying to have their money work for money in a system that is no longer made for them to win except for the hedgefunds
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 2 жыл бұрын
BS, there is more information and lower costs for small investors now than there has been at any other time in history.
@jeremiahbuck2450
@jeremiahbuck2450 2 жыл бұрын
@@theBear89451indeed, all paid for by the hedgefunds
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahbuck2450 No, reduced cost of information and transactions are because of technology. Hedge funds are not subsiding retail.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
That's fallacious. Index funds beat most hedge funds. Index funds are inexpensive, simple, and accessible to most investors. It's not the 'system's fault' many investors are duped by hedge funds.
@dirivl4954
@dirivl4954 2 жыл бұрын
@@theBear89451 Ah, right, that's why Citadel hadn't been the largest portion of Robinhood's income stream.
@nikkia5399
@nikkia5399 2 жыл бұрын
Jon- your work and passion is amazing. I consider myself somewhat informed (really eyes opened when Bernie ran the first time). You take us all to that next level of validated information. My question to you is how are you able to keep going and keep asking the real questions- knowing the answers will sicken you at your core- it is hard for me to watch even though I want to know. There are times- not with just this video but with everything going on- I have to push pause and take a step back or I may end up a puddle of emotions on the floor. You are made of tougher stuff- thank you for shining a light on all these things that need to be changed.
@RiceChrispy0527
@RiceChrispy0527 2 жыл бұрын
I just find it weird that these people are advocating for a system that they are clearly too afraid to speak about, honestly, in public view. Why are you so afraid? You can clearly see Spencer is afraid that he is going to say something wrong. What is the reason for that? I think that's probably the answer we really need to find.
@martinlutherkingjr.5582
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 2 жыл бұрын
People who work in or around the finance industry are typically like herds of sheep. Clout and reputation matter much much more than anywhere else, they’re on par with politicians.
@RiceChrispy0527
@RiceChrispy0527 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 pretty much the same with any field. What it needs is a check system in place to make it so it's not too egregious. To keep things relatively balanced. It's fine to gain enormous wealth but it shouldn't be through exploiting the corrupted systems, only through putting in the work. Cheating only feels like work to a cheater. But to anyone who has actually accumulated wealth legitimately, cheating feels too easy, like you don't deserve it.
@JohnDoe-ll7sg
@JohnDoe-ll7sg 2 жыл бұрын
Because he is at mercy of the people illegally naked short selling. He claims it doesn't happen yet somehow short interest can be 50%+ higher than the entire float... Buy to sell ratios at 5 to 1 yet the price tanks... But it's totally retails fault for wanting the right to speculate in a "fair market" that is the heart of the financial system...
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 2 жыл бұрын
because he will get fired if he speaks up. its exactly like the wsj journo in "the big short", total coward.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
Spencer does'nt want to get fired by the WSJ. John does'nt want him to get fired. If his guests all self immolate he will have no guests.
@NowLookRight
@NowLookRight 2 жыл бұрын
This man is a fantastic example of someone who is so entrenched in institutional thinking that he cannot even COMPREHEND a system where Wall Street is not allowed to brazenly suck wealth from the American economy. Great Video Jon. p.s. MOASS is inevitable
@FarEastAlpaca
@FarEastAlpaca 2 жыл бұрын
Or he is disingenuous. America built a pension system on top of financial market. You cannot NOT be a participant, realistically, while institutions are playing with unfair advantages and their imprudent actions, to say the least, impact other millions of average Joe.
@redhottoaster2434
@redhottoaster2434 2 жыл бұрын
Apes everywhere, moass baby!
@naomiroyle9637
@naomiroyle9637 2 жыл бұрын
Is he just stupid and can't understand English? I know, he has to watch what he says, or no one will talk to him on Wall Street. Thank you, Jon, for pushing and pushing so that we get it. This other guy is corrupt. Wall Street could be a profitable place and clean.
@zackeryrussell7744
@zackeryrussell7744 2 жыл бұрын
If not today tomorrow. No cell no sell.
@raven122199
@raven122199 2 жыл бұрын
This interview should be all the encouragement any retail investor should need to continue holding.
@liambrearley
@liambrearley 2 жыл бұрын
Journalist who is supposed to hold the finance industry to account doing all he can to protect the corrupt status quo.
@meligoth
@meligoth 2 жыл бұрын
Can this WSJ reporter be any more obvious where his interests lie, and it's certainly not the truth about the stock market.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
The truth will set you free.
@BR-gz3cv
@BR-gz3cv 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome awesome interview and insights into the Wall Street machine. Please keep shining the light on this important topic!! Thank you Jon!!
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Jon is still talking about this speaks to the value he puts on the facts and not on "the news cycle". He will be persistent until there's nothing more to say. We love you.
@MrRiVoS
@MrRiVoS 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope he keeps on talking about it!!!
@actualcollegegrad
@actualcollegegrad 2 жыл бұрын
The way this guy ignored Jon's point was intentional. He seems paid off to stay on topic. Keep digging Jon Stewart.
@billybigwig1154
@billybigwig1154 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Jon. You do what no one else will.
@theovernight1915
@theovernight1915 2 жыл бұрын
Spencer's talking points: - You're better off if you just put your money in the market and then stop paying any attention to what's going on. - The corruption isn't great but it's necessary and there's no practical solution to fixing it or finding a more ethical method of facilitating the service of investment. I appreciate that Jon gives guests a chance to rebut other guests. But it is a bit frustrating to see all these oil apologists, stock market apologists, etc getting air time when we know they're not here with good intentions. This guy makes his entire living writing about Wall St. So of course he's never going to be objective on the issue. Glad to see though, that as I wrote this comment, Jon basically just said everything I did lol!
@bradhaaf4749
@bradhaaf4749 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to have these things on record.
@staceystrukel1917
@staceystrukel1917 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there should be laws that if you're businessworks against what's right for society then you are heavily fined or jailed. You are no different than the mob. The problem is the citizens are too dumb to think this is necessary to have a clean economy.
@AxisFlowers
@AxisFlowers 2 жыл бұрын
I think the value is in having Jon ask very straightforward questions, and watching these apologists expose themselves for what they are.
@theovernight1915
@theovernight1915 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxisFlowers I agree I think the primary value is not so much to catch them being corrupt, but to know what their talking points are and how to defeat them. Still, I'm not sure what the true impact of that kind of education might be. I hope what it does is introduce the fans and followers of these individuals (assuming they have any real ones) to an opportunity to see that person's views get dismantled, which Jon often does very well. This was certainly no exception!
@kdelete4949
@kdelete4949 2 жыл бұрын
Corruption exists everywhere. There is no fair system. I invest in the market knowing that my brokerage is taking a nibble of my money, so is the mutual fund company and a few other clearing houses. However it gives me an opportunity to invest in companies that more than half the worlds population doesn’t have the tools to do so and allows me to grow my money and allow me to retire early.
@jjherrell
@jjherrell 2 жыл бұрын
"It's only slightly sleazy." 😂😂😂😂😂 He actually said that. Either he's incredibly naive, or he's in on the game and is defending it because of the money to be made.
@markclifford5712
@markclifford5712 2 жыл бұрын
The second one
@paul.vanhout57
@paul.vanhout57 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate Jon’s willingness to engage those with a different view. Lack of discourse further fuels our divisiveness and prolongs our systemic flaws.
@biggusd32
@biggusd32 2 жыл бұрын
How corrupt is the market when Spencer just accepts it and advises investors not to speculate on stocks. Whole idea of a free market is for capital formation and for investors to put money behind companies they believe in. The market in the US appears incredibly corrupt and rigged, best play for companies is to float on non U.S. exchanges and for retailers to invest in companies not listed on U.S. exchanges. When that happens perhaps someone will do something about the wrong doing and bad actors, until then unfortunately the market is far from free and to blame it on retail is ridiculous.
@swesimon3925
@swesimon3925 2 жыл бұрын
The day when the EU or Asia bans its citizens from investing in the US because it is not safe, is the day people on Wall street end up in jail.
@krypttoenight9971
@krypttoenight9971 2 жыл бұрын
@@swesimon3925 Heck didn't China blacklisted citadel for 5 years for its corruption?
@zackeryrussell7744
@zackeryrussell7744 2 жыл бұрын
@@krypttoenight9971 yes! For excessive illegal short selling!! Fuck YESSSS
@josho6038
@josho6038 2 жыл бұрын
So he says it is corrupt and then says "send all your money to it to buy the whole thing so they can decide where your money goes while they churn your account" lol. A simple bank run ends this game as Canada pointed out already
@JohnDoe-ll7sg
@JohnDoe-ll7sg 2 жыл бұрын
@@zackeryrussell7744 But WSJ says they wouldn't do that... We are chasing ghosts! /s
@dancoyle6911
@dancoyle6911 2 жыл бұрын
The GameStop squeeze scared hedge funds so much that they resorted to, and had the power to, close those entire stocks for what was it a week a week and a half? Those retail investors do not hate the stock market they hate that they don’t have the same power and pull that the hedge funds have, and they have more rules on their end of the investing than hedge funds have.
@dontforgettolike7127
@dontforgettolike7127 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t the squeeze, it hasn’t happened yet.
@dontforgettolike7127
@dontforgettolike7127 2 жыл бұрын
@@yamchadesertbandit9368 how about providing an argument? “Lol” is not one.
@Tayfaan
@Tayfaan 2 жыл бұрын
@@yamchadesertbandit9368 😂😂
@victorguerrero3197
@victorguerrero3197 2 жыл бұрын
Shorts did not cover
@Tayfaan
@Tayfaan 2 жыл бұрын
@@yamchadesertbandit9368 Learn about what? That we're wrong about that the market is COMPLETELY FUCKED? Perhaps you're the one that should 'learn'.
@Mallory-Malkovich
@Mallory-Malkovich 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious to watch these guys try to justify why it's okay for them to game the system but if _you_ do it, _that's_ a problem that will destroy the world.
@Usedtobedc
@Usedtobedc 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like banning lobbying would start to solve a lot of problems
@-Big_Big
@-Big_Big 2 жыл бұрын
gotta get someone to lobby for banning lobbying
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
Banning taxpayer subsidies to Wall Street would stop the problem overnight. Then its back to rich men screwing each other.
@staceystrukel1917
@staceystrukel1917 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Big_Big no you don't. Citizens would have to unite which will never happen because everyone would rather argue republican vs Democrat. Our problem is dumb citizens, nothing else.
@petemitchell7171
@petemitchell7171 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the epitome of what’s wrong with the media! He’s a financial journalist that instead of reporting truths, he is scared to death to upset the apple cart. Bravo Jon Stewart !!
@MarkBelain
@MarkBelain 2 жыл бұрын
I mean how is he the epitome of what’s wrong when he’s the one willing to sit down with John Stewart and get this stuff reported?
@TheDakkaman
@TheDakkaman 2 жыл бұрын
“If you call a brokerage a ‘bucket shop’ they’ll be really insulted…” *Proceeds to furiously train myself to only ever refer to the major ones as such ever again*
@yardsale09
@yardsale09 2 жыл бұрын
It's clear that John is focused on the societal/systematic issues at play with Wall Street and is rightly looking for societal scale/systemic scale solutions to those issues. Spencer's trying his hardest to make this an individual problem, and then recommending individual solutions to the problem as to not change society or the system as a whole, or to limit that change as much as possible.
@kathleenthompson9566
@kathleenthompson9566 2 жыл бұрын
It’s also possible that he recognizes the difficulty of trying to reform anytime soon, and is trying to help individual investors not get as screwed in the meantime.
@yardsale09
@yardsale09 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenthompson9566 If I were trying to be purposefully naive and daft ...yes. He can do both...the key word wasn't he only focussed on individual solutions he did so at the detriment if discussing systemic.
@kcottone
@kcottone 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally how conservatives think. They don't believe societal problems are real, or if they are real they're something like a force of nature or an act of god that can't be changed. So everything is down to the individual. Pretty stupid and simplistic but that's how half of humanity's ape brains work.
@michaelbenti5383
@michaelbenti5383 2 жыл бұрын
Jon is so good at interviewing and doesn't let the naive or wallstreet shills spin their narrative.
@salemsweed2862
@salemsweed2862 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon for highlighting the problem that retail investors are dealing with. This journalist is the reason why retail get screwed over corruption is rampant all over Wallstreet.
@34jrose34
@34jrose34 2 жыл бұрын
"You can be in the stock market without being a speculator" Translation: You can be in the stock market as long as you invest your money through index funds so that the corrupt guys who own the market can leverage your money to their maximum benefit.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
There is no 'corrupt guy who owns the market'. Index funds are simple, inexpensive, accessible to most people, and beat most active managers. Being diversified in the entire market means you aren't overly leveraged anywhere.
@OnTOPtheROOF
@OnTOPtheROOF 2 жыл бұрын
@@alankoslowski9473 hello Bot.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@OnTOPtheROOF I''m not. I'm just educated and practical rather than ideological. Try it some time.
@kimhayes6910
@kimhayes6910 2 жыл бұрын
@@alankoslowski9473 I'll take 'wise' over 'educated' any day. The money makers don't make money on the stock, they make it on the 'mechanics' (along with insider trading for the connected) of the stock market. Pretty much the entire point of the video. So again... for the uneducated/unwashed masses - take the stock crumbs and leave the biggest piece of the graft stock-pie (paid for by the unwashed masses) to the professionals. Think that was Jesse's point @ Jesse Rose?
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimhayes6910 Historically, global stocks have returned about 7% annually. Anyone can access these markets with total market index funds. How exactly is that not making money? Again, index funds avoid most 'mechanical' costs. The 'mechanical' costs you refer are from active managers, most of which have lower returns than the total market.
@ericgreynolds8461
@ericgreynolds8461 2 жыл бұрын
Dudes way of thinking is what's wrong with the financial media imo.
@forrestbradley-7qfab755
@forrestbradley-7qfab755 2 жыл бұрын
I found his indifference to be infuriating.
@tobarstep
@tobarstep 2 жыл бұрын
I just imagine this guy an hour before the interview on the phone with his _sources_ at Citadel going, "Ok, what should my talking points be?"
@redhottoaster2434
@redhottoaster2434 2 жыл бұрын
"Just keep saying that the anger of the Apes is misplaced"
@terkfranks1538
@terkfranks1538 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Before we worry about the "retail investors" behavior, let's stop turning a blind eye to the insidious and constant (accepted) bad behaviors of the "powerful people" that actually control the system.
@petersulewski
@petersulewski 2 жыл бұрын
This WSJ journal guy just basically said "American Dream is dead. Just stay a peasant, peasant"
@nightknight9415
@nightknight9415 2 жыл бұрын
Low cost index funds beat 97.5% of active managers through any decade, beyond 10yrs 100% of active managers get outperformed by S&P-500 index funds. Keeping 90% of your investment dollars in funds like FXAIX with around 10% in some individual holdings like Berkshire Hathaway has allowed me early, debt-free retirement.
@craigslist8355
@craigslist8355 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO! This is also my investing strategy & it's been highly effective. Congratulations on your early retirement NK.
@FinancialShinanigan
@FinancialShinanigan 2 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting the retail investors, classic WSJ
@emgimeer8212
@emgimeer8212 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode because it confirmed my suspicions about anyone tangentially connected to wall st., that they too are willfully blind to the issues exposed; they would rather decry the exposers than even talk about what was exposed seriously. thank you jon, for taking the time to report the opposite in an open-minded way, and let the audience make its own conclusions. it would have been too biased if you didnt research the opposite and give them a seat at the table too. it ended up working for us, not against us.
@kdelete4949
@kdelete4949 2 жыл бұрын
Not let this stop you from investing in the stock market
@BrutusTheOwl
@BrutusTheOwl 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason this works so well is that the poor have to spend all their time and effort to survive and don't have any left to bring down and change the system. While those at the top have all the time and energy to put towards making sure the system doesn't change.
@pinesparrow
@pinesparrow 2 жыл бұрын
"It's a racket." "Those stock market guys are crooked." ~Al Copone
@Poppa_Capinyoaz
@Poppa_Capinyoaz 2 жыл бұрын
It's an infinite money machine, how could it not be a scam.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
Al would know how to solve this problem. Get me Frank Nitty.
@rebelsquadro7514
@rebelsquadro7514 2 жыл бұрын
The "fuller picture" Jon talks about, is just how badly the free press (in this cast WSJ) wants to shift the narrative away from reforming the market, and more towards reforming retails ability to participate. Spencer is saying retail can participate in the stock market by buying index funds but if you choose to participate in any other capacity your choosing to compete against institutional corruption...does that sound right?
@smithsmith6402
@smithsmith6402 2 жыл бұрын
They were certainly talking past eachother. To use the casino analogy, Spencer is telling people not to enter the casino because it's corrupt, while Jon is asking for the casino to be changed so people can enter it safely. Both arguments are against the casino and will kill it off if followed. But I think Spencer is the naive one here- as difficult as it is to fight this corruption politically, fighting it socially (convincing/educating people to avoid being scammed) is even more difficult. I'd say go for both options- fight for reform, and also institute public education so fewer people lose all their money on some over leveraged nonsense or a thousand and one middleman fees.
@4hire565
@4hire565 2 жыл бұрын
And that's a WSJ Reporter?... Fucking Hell, Thank you Mr Stewart!
@mertvarcin
@mertvarcin 2 жыл бұрын
Man is literally saying just put your hands up and let the robber rob you. Ridiculous.
@rogersmith7396
@rogersmith7396 2 жыл бұрын
But carry no cash on you.
@davidrodriguez2631
@davidrodriguez2631 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly been losing hope in this fight but listening to this shill, I know we are still on the right track and I am feeling reinvigorated to go another year in these plays.
@IrishToes1
@IrishToes1 2 жыл бұрын
Right?!! I don’t have much but buying the dip, keep Hodling bro
@heatherjones3768
@heatherjones3768 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really agree that he is coming off as a shill. It feels to me like he is someone who has spent his whole career reporting on the system and seeing no change. He's been beaten down and so he sees the only way to not get scammed by the system is not to participate. And with the way things are, he's right to some extent. The system WANTS your money in the market. They WANT you to try to compete with them because they hold all the cards and 9 times out of 10 they're going to profit off of you. Good conversation regardless.
@jessejimenez5605
@jessejimenez5605 2 жыл бұрын
@@heatherjones3768 No, he's a shill. 100%
@sydandtaytum
@sydandtaytum 2 жыл бұрын
omg, SHILL is the perfect word for this guy. holy shit he comes off so high&mighty and comes just short of saying 'well poor people shouldn't be able to invest in the stock market'
@DayDaysWorld316
@DayDaysWorld316 2 жыл бұрын
This guy really led with “I have no dog in this fight”. Sounds like he literally just walked out of a rehearsal with Ken Griffen.
@Ryuujinv01
@Ryuujinv01 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he mentions putting money in a bank as a bad decision that people do when they give up on the market, while also saying the corruption is fine. Considering the percentages of banks is kept low by the investing class abusing the stock market. Before they captured government, savings accounts were pretty close to the expected APY of index funds.
@SharienGaming
@SharienGaming 2 жыл бұрын
probably because the way the banks paid for the interest was by investing in those index funds or government bonds...
@Ryuujinv01
@Ryuujinv01 2 жыл бұрын
@@SharienGaming Nah, it's largely because they've captured any and all regulation, and also competition, and sent the same relative profit to shareholders. Back then there were over 13,500 commercial banks to service 135 million people. Now, there's only 4700 commercial banks to service over 300 million people. Index funds weren't even freaking invented until after 1975, after the right wing started to seep into power and working on destroying banking.
@SharienGaming
@SharienGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryuujinv01 oh i was referring to how a savings account had almost the same return as those index funds sidenote on another thing you just mentioned - the 4700 banks...im willing to bet that the majority of those are owned by the same handful of people... the US is essentially all monopolies or close to that when it comes to their economy... its such a massive mess
@Ryuujinv01
@Ryuujinv01 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SharienGaming Savings accounts were roughly the same as index funds today, in an era, where index funds had yet to exist, so, no they weren't investing it in index funds. Banks primarily make money off of assets and loans. Thats where they are investing your money. Actually, until Steagall was repealed they literally couldn't. Stop making guesses with probablies and willing to bets, the internets there you can research it, there used to be much more local banks that invested locally instead of just the giant corporate commercial behemoths. You're "willing to bet" now due to how much of the landscape they control today, it is not natural.
@dameongeppetto
@dameongeppetto 2 жыл бұрын
"It sounds very sleazy but it's only slightly sleazy." Wall Street in a nutshell.
@jvillanueva7707
@jvillanueva7707 2 жыл бұрын
A nutshell couldn't contain the amount of sleaze there.
@selmonpogba6080
@selmonpogba6080 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvillanueva7707 Yep
@cosmognaulati2016
@cosmognaulati2016 2 жыл бұрын
Where’d you find this guy? Or did his boss tell him to go on your show to put up a rebuttal to all the great work you’ve been doing? Keep it up Jon you stud!!!!
@jonathananonymouse7685
@jonathananonymouse7685 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I love having Jon back, dishing out a little information and asking a few pointed questions to people who have a clue as to what they're talking about. Way better than a whole bunch of other podcasts that'll go unnamed. Thank you, Jon.
@markday092009
@markday092009 2 жыл бұрын
From the bottom of my heart, thank you John for what you’re doing.
@franklinhall4901
@franklinhall4901 2 жыл бұрын
These two make a good point. Wall Street does appear to function more like a casino.
@fiyahspinnah
@fiyahspinnah 2 жыл бұрын
Shills are ugly ugly people. Thank you, Jon. You are doing incredible work! Keep it up :-)
@MillieMuncher360
@MillieMuncher360 2 жыл бұрын
As an APE, I appreciate Jon doing these interviews and exposing the corruption. I wish Jon would have pushed harder questions on Gary Gensler though. Much love and appreciation for Jon and the team for making this happen
@moonbeamstarshine2780
@moonbeamstarshine2780 2 жыл бұрын
He got exactly what he needed from Gary. Gary PROVED in that interview that not only is he absolutely useless but also complicit.
@MillieMuncher360
@MillieMuncher360 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonbeamstarshine2780 I agree but I want Gary to feel the pressure, knowing that we all know his bullshit and that he's not as sly as he thinks he is. The interview with Robert Jackson Jr. had WAY more drill down questions and Jon didn't hold back, the interview with Gary felt like Jon was restricted on how hard he could push issues and was only allowed to ask certain questions. How do we replace Gary with Robert? I want to know why we can't set up a go-fund-me type croud source donation system to get better/more results. The "whistle blower" program has done nothing but give millions of dollars away and shows others thinking of using that program that you will just be blacklisted in the industry.
@buttafan4010
@buttafan4010 2 жыл бұрын
"I believe that the ENTIRE system is corrupt to the core!" - Judi Bari Earth First '95 Headwaters Old Growth Forest Protection Rally for Luna & Julia Butterfly.
@atg1337
@atg1337 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon, this is the light we need. As far as this reporter, you should just have me come on your show.
@curtisasdasdasdasd7169
@curtisasdasdasdasd7169 2 жыл бұрын
90-95% of buy orders aren't registering because dark pools. When he talks about 'beating the house' he neglects the fact that the house is actively cheating and abusing the markets to their benefit. Casinos are regulated to an extremely high degree, but Wall Street isn't.
@thewalrus9196
@thewalrus9196 2 жыл бұрын
"It's just not true"-- Famous last words of Spencer Jakab's career.
@IrishToes1
@IrishToes1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John for pushing back, we’re in it to win it now, after finding all the corrupt ways the market is run!! FYI, there are plenty seniors in this game too, I’m 59 🤓 I’m really enjoying this investment/financial series you’re doing.
@khalled2419
@khalled2419 2 жыл бұрын
What a shill, and to call yourself a journalist. Spends time criticizing the little guy rather than the corrupt system and will not yield to a system wide reform.
@minderaser6564
@minderaser6564 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is so disgusting. He's just proving our point: corruption is so endemic that the only way it ends is burning it all down.
@JJDetroitfan925
@JJDetroitfan925 2 жыл бұрын
buy inovio we are trying
@Auguur
@Auguur 2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, that is why we ended up with Trump in the WH.
@InternetMameluq
@InternetMameluq 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't know he was full of shit you'll know when he praised Gensler.
@antennawilde
@antennawilde 2 жыл бұрын
He is like most, they don't understand how they are the problem. They are biologically devoid of understanding their own sociopathy.
@ChaChingDream
@ChaChingDream 2 жыл бұрын
They did burn down a warehouse! :)
@brysonjace8676
@brysonjace8676 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly believe in professional support. If you're someone who wants to remain in control of your wealth and assets after the "Great Reset" takes place, then you'll need a strategy as strong as the one the Central Banks have.
@theoking1712
@theoking1712 2 жыл бұрын
Yea go on and pay your fees ! Every information you need is free and available to you online. The risk is part of investing.
@brysonjace8676
@brysonjace8676 2 жыл бұрын
that’s why the S&P is constantly trumping your portfolio
@loganjackson8515
@loganjackson8515 2 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos for education and mostly entertainment 😂. I don’t know why this logic is not pushed more ! For me I get my peace of mind knowing a professional is monitoring the market and my portfolio, and making needed changes.
@andreabrooks5948
@andreabrooks5948 2 жыл бұрын
Recently started out an investment manager and it turned out to be exactly what I was looking for, highly recommended especially for beginners. The risk Management is amazing. Also the experience and guidance throughout not only keeps me away from lame stocks it also helps me pin down the amazing profits.
@mikesmith-it6bt
@mikesmith-it6bt 2 жыл бұрын
Well In an environment where realizing a healthy return on investments is proving more challenging to people, getting help might be the only solution.
@nope3015
@nope3015 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you @Jon for saying what needed to be said. Good to know WSJ cares soooo much about my investment decisions. They’re not just betting against companies, they’re able to ensure they fail through predatory practices. And “the game isn’t fair so don’t play”??? What kind of message is that? No WSJ - the problem is that retail investors are beating you at your own game and this business model of grift, corruption, middlemen is dying very ungracefully.
@petersulewski
@petersulewski 2 жыл бұрын
WSJ- " im all for that change".... spends whole video fighting that change and arguing dont bother the status quo
@Secretary.of.Education
@Secretary.of.Education 2 жыл бұрын
The dude stood up hard for the 9/11 first responders...He's a real one. Thank you Jon. Run for Congress
@willzsportscards
@willzsportscards 2 жыл бұрын
'they are feasting on what is a simple transaction.' this is a systemic problem in America. Exact same problem with health care and doctor/patient relationship. We have 'parasites' everywhere in our markets .
@chea7z913
@chea7z913 2 жыл бұрын
That's why the actual systemic problem is human greed. And the system that perpetuates this greed is called Capitalism. Our problems are so deeply rooted at the core of how we live, that it would basically require a complete lobotomy both literally and figuratively to overcome. God bless Jon for fighting the good fight, and I pray that it sparks meaningful change in our lifetimes. But man, the situation looks grim and I'm afraid our capacity for change will not be enough before time runs out for us all
@jessx1007
@jessx1007 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not the problem in my opinion. Right now people are using technology to drive down a price of a stock, trap it with algorithmic trading software while shorting it on margin and making money while every person who invested looses
@rocklee33221
@rocklee33221 2 жыл бұрын
No one likes a middle man
@americanviking5298
@americanviking5298 2 жыл бұрын
The correction starts with MOASS. Nothing else. Without putting the money they stole from retail investors BACK in their hands, any reform is nothing more than a slap in the face with a hollow complement.
@CoyoteOfSC
@CoyoteOfSC 2 жыл бұрын
💎🙌🦍🚀
@Steve-oc2wr
@Steve-oc2wr 2 жыл бұрын
It is worth being alive when these conversations are happening
@Phil4RealMusic
@Phil4RealMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Jon knows wassup but i dont think he knows that guy is trying to save the hedgies because opting out means selling and we're not doing THAT until the shorts cover!
@brianwallace7736
@brianwallace7736 2 жыл бұрын
You’re doing gods work John! You’re exactly right. Dark pools, high frequency trading, algorithmic trading, synthetic shorting, paid research short stock bashers, etc etc. this is not a fair game by a long shot. Way to go!
@ziziroberts8041
@ziziroberts8041 2 жыл бұрын
I lost 80 percent of my retirement funds in 2008. I never got it back. I am now an retiree and a breast cancer survivor. There's a housing crisis. There's a healthcare crisis. I live in the wealthiest country in the world? You could have fooled me.
@tonylopetrone9828
@tonylopetrone9828 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve been spot on Jon. The whole system is broken!
@Cheshyre25
@Cheshyre25 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jon hit the nail on the head in his followup convo to this podcast. He discussed how this guy was so clearly mislead and the possibility that it was due to the book he had written. He’s so clearly caught up in his own little narrative & book promotion where he’s focused on the wrong scope. Robin Hood is not a great company but there are so many larger systematic problems that he just wants to ignore because he accepts retail investors will never win. Very disappointing to see such a vehement corporate shill but Jon did a great job in exposing the flaws in his arguments.
@IamAcerbus
@IamAcerbus 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find those?
@Cheshyre25
@Cheshyre25 2 жыл бұрын
@@IamAcerbus if you listen to the actual podcast on any podcast player, for this ep he spent a few mins reflecting on the convo afterwards
@henryclinton9317
@henryclinton9317 2 жыл бұрын
The wisest thing that should be on every wise individual's list is to invest in different stream of income and don't depend on the government to bring in money especially now the pandemic is hitting the economy
@wilsonjudson1650
@wilsonjudson1650 2 жыл бұрын
you are definitely right , waiting on the government is a big waste
@henryclinton9317
@henryclinton9317 2 жыл бұрын
Investments are the stepping Stones to success especially if you been guided by a professional
@fredrickconte6270
@fredrickconte6270 2 жыл бұрын
Investing is good but investing in the right thing is the actual key to success . who is your pro ?
@henryclinton9317
@henryclinton9317 2 жыл бұрын
That was exactly what I did, I trade with a professional stock expert "TERESA JENSEN WHITE " who i met in one of the seminars..
@henryclinton9317
@henryclinton9317 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many investment out there but if profits must be considered then not all investments are good to go into.
@dereknz7895
@dereknz7895 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for shedding light on this issue. Wall street greed will cause the next " global financial crisis" it is just a matter of time. When it happens it will be the working people who pay.
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