Walt Disney World Discussion | 03/20/18

[@stevenphillips5323]

Ryno is really becoming the heart of the DIS Unplugged. It has been great watching him these last few years really mature and have these moments of raw honesty and wisdom. It is shows like this that truly make this channel special. Thank you Ryno!

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

Wow! Ryan’s moment from 34:20 - 36:20 was CHURCH. Ryno hit the nail squarely on the head. #preach

[@Dunkirk621]

AMEN!

[@tiffanymarie7451]

Right! The reason why larger cooperations make more money is because they know how to market and make products or services accessible to people who live on various budgets. Disney would do well if they could figure out a way to go back to the basics. All money is good money. Disney should want money from families with both conservative and elaborate budgets. I recently visited Disney in February 2018 and I cannot begin to tell you how many hours of overtime and double time I had to work to get there. There just has to be a better way.

[@lombardi98]

I miss the old way Disney used to make more money, by enticing you to stay more days by building more parks etc. it's not right to me that for some one now compared to 25 years ago, that they have to spend such a higher % of their yearly earnings for the same amount of experience. I would even say less experience with the quality slippage lately. But with DVC they know they already have a certain number of people guaranteed to buy in.

[@jediknight38]

Now you can see the real reason why Americans are taking fewer and fewer vacations every year. More than half the population in this country can barely get by let alone afford to go on holiday even for a single weekend.

[@michaelwilliams6292]

I visited WDW last October for the first time in 18 years. I was not impressed with the overall experience. Just the sheer amount of pre-trip “planning” I had to undertake was unbelievable. The whole thing was overpriced and not good quality. I was a lifelong Disney guy. I am no longer one of their fans. I seriously doubt I will ever be back.

[@LauraMaisano]

I just wanted to thank you for being honest and sharing your honest feelings, especially as an owner of a primarily Disney focused Travel Agency. The fact you are honest about Disney even when it is directly tied to your livelyhood makes me have more trust in you and your team. Thank you.

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

BOOM. You said it best. If you’re willing to bite the hand that feeds you (when it’s warranted) then you’ve passed the honesty test.

[@keith9482]

I totally agree with you.well said😊may I recommend 2 of the sweetest Disneyland youtubers I stumbled upon 😊Eric Ramirez Gaming 101 and Alex the Historian 😊pure souls with a childlike wonderment of Disney and the world😊watch them and love them

[@Beepbopboop19]

Exactly! Thanks for pointing this out. This is why this has been, and will continue to be, my favorite podcast/KZbin channel. And they’re and entertaining group:)

[@michaelleodonovan4590]

Have and have nots? Wife and I were seated beside a single mom and her 7 years old daughter at the Crystal Palace in February. Pooh invited the child to join him for a dance around the restaurant, and the kid squealed, "This is the best day of my life." When the little one dashed off, her mom teared up. She told us she had started saving for this Disney holiday the year her kid was born. Seven years. What breaks my heart about the growing evidence of Disney's neglect of those living from pay heck to pay check is that I probably won't ever see that beautiful little family again.

[@rosestewart1606]

Michael Leo Donovan such a beautiful story. And those are the memories that made it worth going year after year. Wow. I think we may have hit a tipping point and everything will change. People are so much happier when they can afford their vacations. It used to be part of the fun to speak with other guests. On my last trip I mostly heard complaints.

[@dee_mcgee11]

❤️

[@jennyschecter8236]

I love that Pete speaks so openly about his history with alcohol. "Progress not perfection" is exactly right! Nobody is perfect, but all we can do is try our best every day. And as a former alcoholic myself, watching these shows makes those days where I want to drink just a little bit easier! Just wanted to say thank you for that :)

[@Poxabomination]

Jenny Schecter I appreciate it too, and am always tickled when I pick up on those catchphrases.

[@drjanealmwhite]

Wow...Ryno, thank you for sharing your story with us and thank you for keeping Walt's dream alive. I've never heard the story of where Walt's inspiration came from and I am touched to hear of what sparked his legacy. You have given me a really different perspective on why WDW exists. Thank you!

[@psychohornet3959]

Ryno hit the nail on the head. Best comment and truth I've heard about this issue. My thoughts exactly. All you were missing was a Mic Drop!

[@SeriouslyCreepy]

I heard it drop haha

[@msvalina007]

Yes and no. Saying you're poor but you were at Disney when you were a kid? I only was able to afford to go to Disney when I turned 30... So although yes, Disney is catering to the more wealthy, it was NEVER for the poor. The pop-up amusement parks (like Toronto's CNE) is more for the poor than Disney is. Sorry if that offends, but it was never for the poor, nor did I think they marketed that way either.

[@SeriouslyCreepy]

It was and still is for everyone. Some of us just have to save up a little bit harder. It's not catering to the wealthy, it's just giving them some extra options. That's everything in life. Including cars. You can have the same car with all the bells and whistles or stock. Just depends on how much each person wants to pay.

[@jamesvitelli8800]

Nonsense. It can't be for everyone. A single day at the Magic Kingdom during peak season for two adults and two children costs $504. So for a family that can drive to the park and visit for a single day, their total cost of tickets, parking and food will cost roughly $600. And yes, the "per day" price of tickets decreases the longer you stay, you have to account for lodging, parking and meal costs for each additional day of your stay. So if you increase that family's stay to three days, the ticket price "falls" to an average of $395 per day, but the total ticket price climbs to $1,184. Add in three days of lodging, parking and meals and you are easily up to $1,700 for a three day vacation. If you think that every family of four in this country can afford to pay $600 for a single days' entertainment, or $1,700 for a three day vacation, then you really don't understand the mid-to-lower end of the American economy. Not even close.

[@cratcliff8820]

Theme Park Brews "some of us just have to save a bit harder" ... Your privilege is showing.

[@mischiefmanaged5757]

Ryno is the best. What a moving, heartfelt statement that was. Such a lovely guy.

[@seanlee1952]

Ryno is just worth his weight in gold on these podcasts, I almost wish he could be out of the nook more and sat at the table more often.

[@kateshields5670]

Going to Disney fir the first time in may. ..this has opened my eyes completely. ....nothing worse than going on holiday with rose tinted glasses and being disappointed. Your honesty is appreciated

[@djacgators1]

Pete I hope you gave Ryno a performance bonus for his comment. And I'm not making a joke.

[@kevingreif5706]

I can respect everyone's opinion in the pricing discussion, but Ryno made an argument that I can agree with. Well said

[@ohplezz]

The reason I keep listening to this podcast is because I hear the truth here. Some podcasts are Disney cheerleaders who say Disney can do no wrong which is BS. Pete tells the truth which I find very refreshing. Keep up the good work.

[@melissa8908]

I love you, Ryno. You hit me right in the feels. All of you made really excellent points. An average family can't afford Disney. And if they do scrimp and save to make the trip, it better damned well be as advertised. It should be the happiest place on earth for everyone, every time. Our last trip in January was the first time I really noticed a little of the magic wearing off. It was for my mother-in-law's 80th birthday. No cast members made any mention of it except our waiter at the Flying Fish. It was also our first "Welcome Home" as DVC members at the Polynesian. No one at the resort bid us welcome home, although one cast member at the Magic Kingdom gates did. Many of the park and resort cast members were exactly as Charles was describing. Like Walmart employees just trying to make it through the day. They're well aware that they're working at a place that they themselves could never afford. And having worked in the service industry, Steve's point is exactly right, too. If there aren't enough employees on duty, then those who are there don't have time to spread any pixie dust.

[@rosswalker3397]

I love the Dis Unplugged and watch every week. This is the first time I have commented but felt I had to say that Ryno's comment was right on point!! I also thought Charles gave a great insight with his Wal-Mart analogy. The last time I was in Disney World was in September 2016, visiting from Edinburgh, Scotland. The cost of the holiday was just over £7,000 (about $9,800) including flights, park tickets and stay at Caribbean Beach for my wife and I. We both have well paying jobs, however, it took a whole year of saving and penny pinching to afford the trip. It was amazing and worth the money but since then we have had a son, our financial perspectives have changed and we can no longer justify spending that kind of money for a 2 week holiday, it could be used for so much more important things. Now for us and so many families it would take years of saving to afford the holiday and Disney just can't expect people to be handing over their hard earned cash from years of hard work for an experience and level of service which isn't outstanding. The tipping point for Disney is coming and it will defiantly result from their reduced levels of service and their arrogance around items like car parking charges and staff treatment will only accelerate the issue.

[@Richard-fv7rq]

Guys you nailed this episode. DISNEY - LISTERN TO THE PEOPLE!

[@JUDYDAK]

By far, one of the best discussions on one of the best shows we have listened to! Pete, Ryno and Charles made very valid points and Ryno hit it right on point with his comments about the whole situation! Thank you for giving us such great, caring shows! I really hope its true and Disney will listen to the masses, podcasst and radio shows! Have a great trip you all!

[@jessicaallgood4436]

Way to go Ryno! I completely agree with you. The price we paid when we stayed at the Wilderness Lodge in 2002 for the honeymoon package was a little over $1,700. In 2016 for our family of 4 to stay at the value resort 5 days $3,900. We were planning on going back February of 2019 and are now having to reconsider the vacation. We are not a mid level family and really it takes years of saving to be able to go. We drive from Va to save on plane tickets. We really don't know what we are going to do now. We love Disney but we can't afford to go often and now even less.

[@JohnAJohnson]

Stay off property at a resort that's close by, free parking and provides bus transportation to the Disney parks, then use in park-to-park transportation. Also by non-expiration tickets while your kids are still within the child price range and they will automatically update them to an adult ticket when they get older free of cost. A 10 day ticket with 1 visit a year could be used for 10 separate vacations so you'll only have to pay for a much cheaper Orlando area hotel.

[@rosestewart1606]

I agree. We've been going every year for 11 years and we are done. We love the value resorts but as you say we're now paying at least as much as deluxe resorts used to cost. It's not just that it's not affordable...with so much construction and big crowds the parks are just ok. And if we're not going to the parks we don't have to go to Disney at all. And there are so many more affordable places to visit...for us in Canada Europe is just as far away.

[@Tsumami__]

Jessica Allgood How was a value resort $3,900 for five days? Sorry but that’s not right. The moderate resorts aren’t even that much. Unless you mean the ENTIRE trip, or maybe the hotel plus the dining plan, not just the hotel cost. The value resorts are barely more than a hundred dollars a night. I’m staying at Riverside in a couple weeks and that’s just over $1300 for four people for four nights. No way is a value resort that much.

[@rosestewart1606]

Goddess Usako room price plus 5 day park tix and dining plan for 4 all over 10 years old. I can see it. The room price is the smallest part of the cost of a trip and the other costs are the same no matter where you stay.

[@jessicaallgood4436]

Goddess Usako this was for the entire trip...lodging was around 120 a night, then tickets for 4 people over 10, lowest dining plan and yes I added in the photo pass. I just gave the total as a package deal because I booked everything at the same time through Disney.

[@tcraigg4563]

Yes RYNO!!! I don't think Sean is thinking as a consumer who is not there for the day and going home to their house or apt 15 minutes away. Sean doesn't have to pay for a hotel, parking, food, tickets. He has annual pass and can go home to eat and stay there, and the annual pass includes parking so he doesn't have to even pay for that. $100 may not break some people, but it will break others. Ryno hit the nail on the head. Disney is a company that doesn't care about regular folks. The problem is not the price increase but the nickel and diming for every little thing with no increase in quality.

[@Poxabomination]

Toisan Craigg yeah, normally as a "poor person" I take their commentary in stride and don't get offended, but I will say some comments in this video were a bit abrasive even to me. $100 is my food budget for 2 whole weeks at home. Going to WDW is a privilege and not a right for sure, but not all of us are fortunate enough for $100 to be inconsequential when planning a trip.

[@tcraigg4563]

And bravo to Charles too! Disney should not be a Walmart experience, not if they're going to charge luxury prices.

[@katherinekrajewski345]

You go Ryno! Say it as it is. I love how brutally honest you all are.

[@meisteckhart]

Thanks Ryno you can see your comments come from your heart. I grew up poor too and we drove from Chicago and stayed off site so we could afford to go to Disney. On our first trip we stayed an extra day so we could go to the opening day of then MGM studios and my parents had to drive through the night on the way home so they could get to work the next day with us sleeping in the back of the car. Disney is a business and they should make money, but it would be nice if they could figure out a way to provide some value for those who sacrifice so much to give their kids a magical experience and can’t afford deluxe resorts and signature restaurants.

[@drew6338]

You couldn’t have said it any better Ryno. Right on the money.

[@MamaGman]

We stayed 10 nights at Disney Dolphin with 5 days park hopper passes for three people. $6000.00! This vlog hits home.

[@becomingasupermommy]

Finally a video i'm nodding along with you. Why am I paying $10,000 and the employees aren't getting a good living wage that are making my vacation? Ryhno was was bang on i'm that next generation and this next trip will be make or break as to if we continue to Disney or elsewhere

[@ladiesman27503]

I totally agree with everything pete said about the reorganization that is occurring. I hope the Union strikes right before Toy Storyland opens to teach these executives a lesson

[@edwendling6023]

Wow Ryno well said dude.. you hit the nail on the head..

[@lakb45]

When we went to a popular vacation destination (not Disney), the tipping point for us was the astronomical parking fees. Ultimately, we disregarded staying at a resort and stayed where there were no parking fees. Those fees matter to those of us on a budget.

[@rosestewart1606]

LauraKB45 yup. We have to go to a small city a few hours away for a competition several times each year. The hotel we stay at is whichever one gives us free parking.

[@Warrenet1]

Ryno from 34:20 to 36:20 Damn. That's some solid truth right there. Sing it brother!

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

I missed your comment and said the same thing and used the same time stamps!!!

[@rexvortex]

Charging for parking! As if your pricing for EVERYTHING else isn't ridiculous??!! OBVIOUSLY they DON'T want you to bring a vehicle. Without the vehicle, it keeps guests on site for dining, shopping and to keep guests from visiting other parks!! BRUTALLY GENIUS!! DISGUSTING DISNEY, We're out!

[@Brightstars19]

I often wonder if these executives forgot what happened to Disneyland in the 90s when it was being ran by exec who came from the Disney Store and did basically the same thing that will likely happen here. I will leave with a proverb that I always go to when see things like this "Pride comes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."

[@justjenna9371]

Well said Ryno! Stick up for us little people saving every penny to come to Disney World!! You’re my fave xx

[@melissaleigh3338]

Ryno...thank you for your eloquence. We have thought about driving, but the parking fees are making us think again.

[@rexvortex]

DRIVE!! AND EAT OUT EVERY NIGHT!!! BUY SHIRTS AND MERCH from the Fi' Dollah' knockoff stores!!! DO NOT BUY A THING FROM THEM! Make them regret the fees and gouging!!! It's pathetic!! OR just stay outside. MUCH better accommodations for a fraction of the cost!! They need to start cutting the BS!

[@mckenna8663]

AMEN, RYNO!!!! We already have reservations to stay at Art of Animation in May. But with the planning of each trip, there is always a huge debate (and usually an argument) in our family: are we going to stay on property or off property? I am strongly in the off-property camp because my feeling is it's cheaper, and even when I stay on property I absolutely hate Disney transportation....so (unless it's the boats going over to Disney Springs) I would much rather drive. This time I lost the argument, and we are staying on-property. But even those who are on the side of "on-property" are 100% on board with this being our last time ever on-property. This is the last kick in the teeth. One of the strong voices who was firmly planted with the on-property group is even saying.... "enough Disney for a LONG while. Let's do TWO vacations a year discovering the country instead of the once a year at Disney." We all agreed... it's time.

[@groovybaby95]

Hi Dis Team! I did the college program last year, and I have to say that I totally know where you're coming from with the cast members not doing as good of a job as they should be doing. I was a custodian, so I know all about the amount of trash at Disney. It is absolutely insane how nasty it gets, especially in bathrooms. I always worked really hard to keep my restroom cleaned and the streets swept and the trash cans from overflowing. However, I knew SEVERAL cast members who didn't care. They hid out in different areas and did one or two trash runs a shift and expected someone else to do their work for them. This wasn't the college program people either, these were full time cast members. The people who were on the college program were actually the ones doing all of the work because I think we cared a little more. That's not to say that that's how every single CP is, but a lot of these full time members simply don't give a crap about working at Disney. I knew a lot that did, but I would say over half of the CM's would let their cans get overflowed. Now all of that being said, I will say that sometimes there are areas (like the Safari queue line in DAK) where the trashcans can get overflowed every single hour and it's hard to keep running your banana boat back and forth lol. But cast members should always be on top of their game!!!!

[@rosestewart1606]

Nora Alyse that's really interesting. There is another issue with understaffing. The cleaner a place is the more likely people are to keep it clean eg. They will actually look for a trash can instead of throwing it on the ground. There's a tipping point where your job as custodian becomes exponentially harder because most people no longer care.

[@Jason-g6q]

Thanks for your hard work I always appreciate the custodial team

[@Bethany030303]

I love Ryno’s shirt, and what he said on behalf of working class people. I was finally able to take my kids to Disney World last year after years of not being able to afford it. Now I’m scared that it will go the other way again. I hope my family isn’t excluded from making these memories in years to come.

[@marissalonardo1984]

Wow Ryno that was beautiful brought a tear to my eye!!!! My husband and 2 girls and I just went on our first trip to Disney in February. I can guarantee you we spent over 4grand AND my one daughter is free at the parks and some restaurants for being under 3. I’m worried I won’t be able to go back when we become a family of 5..... sad times. Preach!

[@melissanorcross8419]

This was a great Dis Unplugged! Ryno and Pete I completely agree. I am planning on having children in the future, and I worry that they will never get to experience the Disney World that I love. They are making it hard for people like me who drive down. It's only a 6 hour drive for us and it doesn't make sense to pay for a plane ticket. Staying off site is going to be the normal now. The quality has gone down and crowds are getting crazy! My mom and I have had annual passes for awhile now and we use to try planning trips during the slow times which do not really exist anymore. I think the high crowds as well as decrease staffing are definitely leading to the loss in quality! I hope Disney can get it together so in 10 years I can bring my kids to the most magical place on earth!

[@cardman1031]

I feel in 10 years after Star Wars and the 50th are done they will be begging you to come down and stay bc they will be hurting. I kind of hope it is the case bc they need to get their eyes opened.

[@lesliechain7703]

Ryno your story touched me. I was not able to go to Disney until my first wedding anniversary 26 years ago and it was just magical.I feel like the EMH are not a reason to stay and now the parking fee just make me wonder why am I not staying where we can each have a bedroom and bath off property for less money....

[@marymccloskey9450]

Ryno, you make your mom proud.

[@mclerno412]

15:54 Excellent point by Ryno. Will the next generation be Disney obsessed?

[@seanhamilton3756]

Pete didn’t warn me about the lakes this week so I guess I should get my swim trunks on!

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

LOL. Suit up! I’ll meet ya down by the gator feeding trough! 😜

[@newageretro]

I absolutely love Steve's parking plan at the airport. That's the kinda cheap scam I'm all about.

[@camaro6813]

You are so right Pete! We travel from Texas by car to WDW and this will totally affect us. We have been twice so far. The last trip we took, last November-Thanksgiving week, was $5500. This is including a stay at the Yacht Club which was discounted and with "free" dining package. We have to save years in advance to go and now parking is just ANOTHER thing we will have to pay for. I am so excited for all the new things coming to WDW in the years to come but I am not seeing how if it keeps going the way it's going we will EVER be able to afford it again. We are a family of 5 and it is not feasible anymore. Makes me so sad!!!!!

[@Megenz327]

“Progress not perfection” ❤️🤣 I love it!!

[@KStaton24]

For the working family that doesn’t make a lot of money but enough to try to make my kids happy, this nickeling and diming is a slap in the face. Very discouraging and disappointed and not even an attempt to hide it.

[@ndep93]

Just check out Universal or Busch Gardens if you want to travel to Florida theme parks. I recommend Universal hotels since you only need a cab to and from the airport(no need to rent a car). The hotels are walking distance from the parks and City Walk, plus the room keys act as Express Passes in the parks (at least when i stayed there).

[@RabbitVasque]

Ryno KILLING it this episode. GETTEM

[@CharlesVillePro]

Preach Ryno !!! At 34:20 he talk with such passion and with truth! I get it and I get mad with Disney “theCompany” too the parks are now so far from what Disney “theMan” wanted.

[@PaulAdler11]

Brutally honest discussion--I love it!!

[@genayares244]

Thank you ryno !!! I am a person just like your mom !! I’m Gena btw , not Kevin , he’s my 12 yr old ! I have 2 kids and I’m a single mom !! I skrimp and save and live very modestly on my Pham tech salary !!! I have managed in the past to go to DW but it’s getting harder and harder !!! Luckily my parents have dvc ....that’s the only reason I can afford it ...and believe me I’m the type who’s bringing food in suitcases and coolers to my room and to the parks !!!

[@Lovelessliz]

Ryno's hot take from what it was like going to Disney when he was younger to now was so, like, amazing. Like 6 or 7 years ago I took a trip to Disney World and we used a friend's discount cuz they worked there and the pricing wasn't bad if I remember. Now we live here and my dad works for Disney and I don't think if he did we would be able to go to Disney World. Like it's so wild that I hear my dad complain and he used to be in mandatory over time as a bus trainer cuz they were understaffed too. Like I just hate the whole situation.

[@kayliiika]

Pete I just seriously love you ! Your awesome! thanks for being so authentic!

[@TwoGirlsOneCastle]

I loved this video so much!! I agree with so many things said. I appreciate what Ryno had to say, while I am grateful that I am able to go to Disney often I understand for a lot of people it is once in a lifetime, and they have to save a lot for it and this new parking cost is ridiculous! I am waiting for the magical express to have a cost soon. Shame on Disney for this. I also do not like how the parking cost varies between values, mods and deluxe resort. This will make me think twice before I chose to stay deluxe again.

[@cardopj]

Great show, Pete was on point

[@jimnut7262]

Great video with some very eloquent points, thanks. I wonder how our UK (and other Countries’) travel companies will deal with the parking charges when selling future 14 night package holidays which currently often include a basic model hire car? It’s going to be interesting to see the 2019 Florida/Disney holiday brochures. The companies will undoubtedly try to negotiate a discounted parking rate with Disney but it is sure to add a significant cost increase to the package which must affect bookings. You might have hoped that Disney would offer a weekly and fortnight rate for their parking as an inducement for longer duration stays. Anyhow, many more European people with children will simply find it too costly and decide to go to the Spanish resorts with their kids. Ironically, it will be the more mature people who don’t have young children that are the only ones who will be able to afford to visit Disney parks. Perhaps the parks of the future will be full of ‘mature folks’ - not a great prospect.

[@dsnynrd]

I watched it a second time to hear Ryno' s impassioned thoughts on the cost of trips. To hear the love and respect for what his family did so they could enjoy the parks made me cry! Our big Disney trip was in 2016 (and yes, we spent a small fortune to go. It was their 'Christmas gift') The memories we made will live with us forever and I hope that when my girls are older they will talk about it the way that Ryno did about it today. DIS always produce amazing programming for us, and discussions like this remind me why I watch the show...the amazing and unbiased thoughts and feelings on the parks/company.

[@LoveField_1111]

Amen Ryno!!! Gave me chills!!!!

[@joanconnolly5299]

stayed at port Orleans riverside in July and had a car for 19 days. paid 309 dollars per night. it would be an extra cost of 361 dollars. I have 3 children WHY would I stay on property the only benefit to us is extra magic hours. Joan Connolly from Dublin Ireland

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

Amen! And to add insult to injury, you could book a nicer, newer, cleaner room with far better amenities at ANY of the Bonnet Creek resorts (Hilton and Waldorf) for a fraction of the cost AND get 60-day fast passes. Hard to justify. VERY hard.

[@rosestewart1606]

Haha we're actually talking about going to Ireland instead of Disney. When we were there last month there were only half as many EMH as there used to be. We truly miss them 😔

[@billbrandt6734]

I agree with staying off property now. What is the benefit of staying on property now. You can stay at any good neighbor hotel now and get extra magic hours free parking for half the price. I love Disney but the only benefit to stay on property is the magical express.

[@1lorett1]

Okay, okay, okay... it's official. I LOVE CHARLES (and all his cute ties too)! BTW, Ryno - WOW. That was an epic, Pete class rant! #welldone.

[@mackenzievattimo9205]

We are in the drive market, about 8 hours away, we have stayed on property 15 times since Sept 14; however, we will be staying at Choice hotels because they include free parking. I agree with Pete, Disney doesn't care, and that is fine with me.

[@rlevitta]

My objection about the parking thing is that you get charged more at the moderate and even more at the deluxe resorts. Is it because the real estate is more at those resorts that you have to pay more for the same rectangle of pavement somewhere else? Is the paint better that marks the spots off? Maybe it has gold in it? Or is it that they just figure that if you're staying at a deluxe resort you have more money, so screw you?

[@FrancesAlicia]

Bob Levittan completely agree!

[@rosestewart1606]

It's all swamp land so no...it's not about the land. And most of the cars are rentals so it's not about the cars. It is just about your wallet and the assumption that you don't care.

[@FrancesAlicia]

Rose Stewart I believe the original commenter was being a little tongue in cheek with his comments about the land being different... obviously the land doesn’t have gold in it...but yes it is all about them making more money

[@maryt6292]

Ryno-100% correct. I want to hug you my child. I noticed changes there in Dec 2016 on my last visit compared especially to my 1st in 1975 and my parents comments about the amazing pleasant atmosphere and cleanliness. I did notice the decline in quality service, especially the bathroom cleanliness that last visit. We were and still are drivers from CT and am obviously not happy about charges for parking. I am considering staying off site again for my trip next year instead of my 2nd "home" Pop Century. I will need to cost compare park parking cost charges vs lodging charges with and without paying to park where I stay. Disney is adding even more planning work to a job of planning. We are still going though aren't we. $

[@BetweenStations77]

I live for Petes’ rants. Beautiful. Love it.

[@87glassrose]

I want to have Walt Disney reincarnated and maybe he’ll whip their asses into shape

[@caitstorm]

Ryno preach 🙌

[@rosestewart1606]

We drove to Disney from Nova Scotia last year 😎 32 hours...3 days...it was great. We did fly down for a quick trip this year but our next big trip...2 weeks...was going to be 4 families driving down at the same time and hooking up along the way. So the parking fees will cost them 6 hotel rooms. We're now looking at alternate locations. It's not just the parking but if you make us choose between buying plane tickets for a family of 5 and having an affordable vacation, we're going to go where we get the most value for a 2 week trip.

[@tbomb887]

We are AP holders with a 6.5 hour drive. We average 2 week long stays with a quick 2-3 day in the middle. This parking deal has now taken the quick trip out of the budget. We just returned from a 6 day trip that was first ever "off property" and i was nervous. It was fantastic. We spent $1000 just on food that trip. So now, they lose 2-3 day hotel stay and all that merch sales because they went for a money grab.

[@StripofPaper]

Ooof, Ryno went OFF, like yaaaaas

[@wishes4ever972]

Honestly when I found out what these Disney cast members make per hour ... it’s not good. Not good at all. Unacceptable

[@stevenweatherman7325]

Ryno, Thank you for speaking from your perspective and with passion. Thank you for caring.

[@goddessari]

Thanks for the idea Steve

[@HeidiSKulesh]

Great job, all. Have a safe journey and wonderful trip, all going. Can't WAIT for the 7 7's, thanx for giving us something to look forward to while you're gone! :)

[@josephtrapani5574]

stayed @ all star movies this past weekend& after a late night at the parks there was not a parking spot at about 11pm

[@WOWitsANT]

Sean has really been coming off as one of those people who will refuse to watch a foreign movie because it has subtitles or someone who would go to a different country and ask locals if they speak English instead of saying “I’m sorry I don’t speak ____.” Over and over now he has made it clear that he finds dealing with different cultures somewhat of an inconvenience. Kind of ignorant of you ask me.

[@chanilerner6410]

Thank you so much for this. I’ve been so upset. Charging more for a lesser product together mistreating their employees and obvious disregard to safety have me feeling differently about the company that’s been part of my family for decades. It’s honestly heartbreaking...watching this made me feel better. Thank you especially to Pete and Ryno who so perfectly expressed how upsetting this new Disney attitude is.

[@newattnow]

Yikes! I was planning to go to WDW next year. I'm starting to think that I should make other plans.

[@PS-vc2yz]

I get the railing against any price increases. But do understand business and the laws of supply and demand. As you mentioned, only after the crash in 2008 did they start offering any meaningful value to annual pass holders. Why? Because they were losing business. If people still flock to the parks they will continue to push the envelope on charging for everything and anything they can. People staying home is the only thing that will get their attention.

[@mckenna8663]

aka AAA I have been a Disney stock owner since 2011. I first talked about the possibility of buying stock way back in 1986, but it wasn't until much later that I actually did it. I have to say, I have been so proud of Disney and their accomplishments over the last few years. But the bloom is definitely off the rose when it comes to myself as a stockholder. Disney is having these Great accomplishments... The new international parks, the attendance and the parks are doing very well, Marvel and Star Wars just go crazy... And yet the stock has lost ground or stagnated. Within the last couple months I just can't be proud of being a stockholder any longer. It's just not making sense anymore . I have whittled my Disney Holdings back to a sliver. And I'm not sure I'll look back.

[@hairdresser1300]

Yes! Full time employees~! This is the story of our nation

[@deeman7600]

Maybe something should be done with offsite guests parking for free for the day at Disney Springs and using Disney transport to access the parks. Disney transport is paid for by resort guests. That would now make those guests the only ones to park for free at Disney.

[@patricksp71]

Dee Man I know people that do this and I can’t really blame them. You are going to see more people do this.

[@daviddowling6376]

You think 5,000 is a lot try 10,000 if you are from Canada.

[@vmatthews1187]

Keep trying to take the kids, but every time I work out a budget the increases just makes me so sad. At this rate we will never be able to afford to go. The level of service we received at All Stars was pathetic when we paid thousands of pounds coming from the UK (and that was our honeymoon), so we upgraded to C.Beach on our last ever trip there. I never thought we would not be able to afford a family holiday. :-(

[@alexandraadinicole1307]

Hello - very well stated. I agree the experience of Disney World has been evolving - not in an upward motion but downward. Only going on my experiences as a adult - starting - say in 2003 as a Pass Member. The integrity and magic that existed then - is not easily located - 'cookie cutter' is a word that seems appropriate. My experience with Cast Members say in 2003 verses now - is truly like day and night. Yet, I remain a Annual Pass Holder and use 'benefits' like Tables of Wonderland but -- have a unsettling feeling at times based on the true quality of my experience rather than is it the 'memory' of Disney that actually keeps me returning. I obviously enjoy and take delight in going to Disney but the overall experience is not the same. I find myself 'pretending' it is - thinking about how amazing Walt Disney's Dream was and overlooking how my experience may actually be. I hold annual pass memberships to Busch Gardens/Sea World and Universal. I've traveled to Williamsburg Busch Gardens and there you still have a great experience and it does puzzle me - Williamsburg does not pretend to give a magical experience but it still gives the experience - I wish Disney World would bring back on a regular basis. I adore Universal and their Cast Members /Staff - I have always had a great experience with the staff at Universal. I do feel special while at Universal - always but maybe I have just been blessed. I love the free Valet parking that my pass allows!! My experience with Williamsburg Busch Gardens is why I originally obtained my Annual Pass Membership with Busch Gardens. It gave me access Orlando Sea World and Tampa Bay Busch Gardens (as well as water parks and other Sea World locations) - ahh fell in love with free membership and discounts - moved onto Universal (their discounts and Valet parking ) and then finally obtained the Disney membership! Great show! Keep up the good work and have a great Italy trip!!

[@camaro6813]

Thank you RYNO!! AMEN!!

[@melissaslater5943]

Excellent segment. Loved it! My daughter was in the room studying for finals while I was listening and said "I love these guys!". My biggest issue with the parking fee is that they are impacting those of us that are annual passholders/Florida residents or close enough to drive - and those that have to drive because they can't afford to fly. The increase is not being equally distributed among all guests staying at resorts. Just add a few dollars per night to EVERYONE's room and make it fair. Also - why should I have to pay $66 more for parking at the Poly for my 6 night stay this July than someone staying at Pop? I'm not getting a better parking space! Loved Ryno's comments. Very heartfelt.

[@GiaBlinks]

They should be charging the people who are parking at the resorts, but are not staying at the resort. It's not fair to charge the people who are already paying for a room. And, it's ridiculous to charge higher parking fees for higher end resorts, why should they pay more for the same parking spot?!

[@mrs.magiceyes3138]

abearz504 completely agree...they have it backwards. Those guests can be charged by the hour to offset costs.

[@mrs.magiceyes3138]

Exactly

[@ashleytharp8056]

Wow Steve’s idea that people will park at MCO cheaper than on property 🤯

[@Letyourimaginationgrowwild]

How about park at disney Springs use the transport to your hotel and when you need the car go fetch it use it and then park at disney springs.

[@hairdresser1300]

Keep reading the tea leaves Pete. I was cold a couple weeks ago on our vaca but refused to pay 80 dollars for the sweatshirt I would of loved to buy . Yes Charles!!! Disney should NOT be Wallmart! I so "GET" the glowing fish remark Pete

[@sobeida87]

Steve is WOKE with that parking idea

[@billjanetcsu]

“Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.” Yogi Berra

[@melindaornelasross2632]

Our family of 3 adults are long time AP Disneylanders. Each of us grew up with DL right in our "backyard" and have experienced going there since our childhoods. In February, we recent vacationed for the first time at Walt Disney World after many years of wanting to go, but somehow just never really finding it our budget. Last year we made a pact that we would go in February no matter what. We made our airline reservations, resort (Moderate - Port Orleans Riverside) reservations, bought our tickets for 5 days (no park hoppers), passed on the dining plans (we were happy that we did) and bought the memory maker photo package (very happy that we did buy it). We ate mostly 1 full service meal a day and and counter service when we got hungry in the parks. We treated ourselves to a wonderful dinner at The Yachtsman (amazing), purchased the Magic Kingdom firework dessert package and a few Disney trinkets to take home. We spent around $5,500 for this Disney experience. We loved it! However, I can see now from our experience that the cost of this vacation should be considered "luxury" as the expense would be difficult for a moderate income family to afford. After watching this episode, I completely understand that after paying this exorbinate cost, you expect the quality of the experience to be comparable to cost. We did notice some differences from our own "home parks." The cleanliness of the parks were not as kept as we are used here at Disneyland and California Adventure and the general maintenance showed that repairs are needed. So now adding even more costs makes it seem even more out of reach for families to choose WDW or DL as their vacation destination. Ryno's comments were spot on and voiced what most of us feel.

[@margaretd3710]

The reason Shanghai Disney went so much over cost was due to China's policies of "do it fast and don't worry about quality". That's one reason so many people don't buy their apartments/condos - they just rent because the building isn't going to be kept up and in a few years, it starts falling apart, so they just move. Disney dealt with that and then they had to re-do the work because it wasn't up to par. So costs were astronomical. -- I got this information from a Disney engineer. -- And I've heard that it isn't bringing in the money that Disney was counting on, so other Disney parks have to pick up the slack. -- Disney adminstrators should have studied Chinese culture and politics thoroughly before they got into China.

[@kristalyncarryl1163]

Love you rhino!!! You made total sense on the whole way to expensive for the middle class! It’s sad that Disney has gone down this path! Hope you all have a wonderful trip to Italy!

[@wishes4ever972]

Pete you are always spot on. Always. Like you said they haven’t been charging this for soooo long and now they are. And let’s be honest the level of service unfortunately has gone down

[@tsg900]

Standing "O" for Ryno!

[@casolo8107]

Pete, I am with you on double-fisting the cola and coffee!

[@Fatalroadie]

I absolutely loved what Ryno said (34:20), but I'm often taken aback by Sean's cavalier (for lack of a better term) attitude of most things thru most of these podcasts. He reminds me of Winchester from MASH.

[@PeytonDenise14]

My husband and I went on our honeymoon to Disney, and it was crazy how much it was for 6 nights. We only went to the parks 5 days, and we stayed at the Port Orleans Riverside with the dining plan. It was $3,600 for two people. That’s crazy!

[@jdivediva874]

The last time I was at Disney I saw a roach In the bathroom by Merchant of Venus. Have gone to Disney for 10 years never saw a bug until last year. Soooo gross.

[@LisaAnn365]

The parking fees are just utter nonsense. The excuse that "all the kids are doing it" is just that...an excuse. My vacation habits concerning Disney are now starting to change; it's just too darn expensive. Great show again Pete.

[@alexisbk9576]

Bravo Ryno! Well said! Completely agree about the middle-class families shown in the marketing videos and ads that can’t afford to go.

[@kwh1183]

What a show! Great commentary overall.