WALTHER P22 Pistol: Review & Range

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@tomc.4860
@tomc.4860 Жыл бұрын
I choose the 22 as a defense weapon for several reasons. Low recoil means that I can empty the pistol very accurately while a person firing a large-caliber pistol may only get off a few shots accurately. As a nurse of 30 years I can tell you that anything that makes a hole in the human body is a potential killer and it is the placement of that hole that makes the difference and not the size or power behind it. Growing up in backwoods Arkansas I killed deer and large pigs with 22 rifles and pistols. I was on a Federal grand jury for a year and I can tell you that if you ever have to use your weapon to protect yourself and you have to go to court then you will have to defend your choice of firearm. The jury looks very differently upon a 41 magnum hollow point compared to a 22 caliber target pistol. The prosecution will point out that the large caliber pistol is designed primarily to kill a human being whereas a 22 pistol is not even considered a defensive weapon by many experts and is considered a toy or a small varmint gun by others.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Excellent input!
@freedomtruth5777
@freedomtruth5777 Жыл бұрын
Here in TEXAS the Grand Jury will question why you didn't carry something big enough to put a hole in a hippopotamus 😂
@thethiefonthecross9092
@thethiefonthecross9092 10 ай бұрын
Whatever makes you sleep better at night lol
@WetaSola70
@WetaSola70 7 ай бұрын
On point!👍🏻
@anbs1682
@anbs1682 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing as a Christian I don’t want to take a life but I will if I have too. And I want to make wise decisions.
@tomhinklejr.5055
@tomhinklejr.5055 Жыл бұрын
My buddy is a PA State Trooper. He said there's people who think of the 22 as a toy when compared to larger calibers, so they do stupid things, which in turn ends up getting somebody shot, sometimes fatally. There is a great video on the P17 here on KZbin that's about 27 minutes long, but worth watching. For EDC, you're just trying too break contact with the offender, and not necessarily kill them, but if they are persistent, blood loss, from multiple shots will weaken them. At close range, I can hit my target with my P17 and my TX-22 while maintaining target acquisition, with no muzzle flip, and consistent hits, in a much shorter time than with any other caliber. I would rather use a caliber, regardless of size, that I can accurately hit with, than have a monster round that I might miss with. Every bullet has a lawyer attached too it!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Great sobering reminder and info 👍
@angelaf5040
@angelaf5040 Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired RN and I completely agree with your friend. I think people, especially kids get careless with a 22 thinking its a high powered BB gun. I've heard that several times. That said it's absolutely destructive to the human brain and there's usually always several "pathway injuries" where it's bounced around inside the skull. It's always disheartening to hear a call come in with a child with a .22 head shot. They usually die. 😭
@irongoose3865
@irongoose3865 7 ай бұрын
@@angelaf5040 "The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) issued a safety alert on BB guns, warning consumers that BB guns can kill because of their high muzzle velocity. According to the CPSC, BB guns cause about four deaths per year." If this is true how much more so for a .22? Not many people are going to walk away from multiple shoots from a .22. And a high number won't walk away from just one! People who think .22s are BB guns are stupid in my opinion. I wouldn't think twice about using a reliable .22 in a self defense situation. It's really just a matter of who gets shoot first.
@telegaster1946
@telegaster1946 Жыл бұрын
I love my P22Q! Have owned it for approx. 18 months and have fired it a whole bunch. After a few cleanings and firing 500 rounds or so, the gun loosens up a bit and gets even better. So I would say, a short break-in period is what you'll find is needed for this one. Now the gun operates smoothly every time out, no more issues whatsoever. It loves to eat Aguila HP, CCI Mini Mag and Federal Champion (all high velocity). It's an absolutely fantastic purchase and I would recommend the P22 to anyone. I bought it because the .22LR ammo is cheap and I like to shoot a lot. I've heard many times that the older P22's had issues, I believe Walther has resolved them. I also still read that people complain about them being ammo picky. If you keep your gun clean and use high velocity rounds (1200 fps or higher) as Walther recommends, you should have a fun time every time you go out to bang bang!
@ryanperry9472
@ryanperry9472 Жыл бұрын
I have one of the very first P22's that I bought around the same time I bought my G22. I absolutely love it! I have put so many rounds through it I finally had to get a aftermarket extractor. Super fun litte gun! Plus, if you are teaching someone to shoot a gun for the first time, it is perfect. Done it many times! Anyone that talks bad about this gun is a dummy! Nice video!
@jonmartin6451
@jonmartin6451 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got one of those pistols and it’s actually a great trainer to perfect your hold and pull, plus it’s a fun gun to shoot
@wampa4321
@wampa4321 Жыл бұрын
I think a 22 with good quality ammo, like Stingers, Punch..etc.. can be just as deadly as any 9mm or even higher. It’s shot placement.
@jawmessenger
@jawmessenger Жыл бұрын
I get that a 22lr doesn't have the stopping power of higher calibers. I usually carry 9mm or 38spcl. However, I do have arthritis and there are times where the pain is excruciating. Therefore I'll carry my Walther P22 to ensure that at least I'm on target with first and following rounds. I figure something is better than nothing.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Fully agree my friend!
@paigepopejoy
@paigepopejoy Жыл бұрын
Great call out regarding the ergonomics of this pistol. This firearm really sits well in the hand and lines up shots very naturally. Great video, thank you.
@01157ify
@01157ify Жыл бұрын
I have one. It is an awesome pistol. Easy to use and easy to clean.
@matthewallen6752
@matthewallen6752 11 ай бұрын
Bought mine in 2005. Probably my favorite pistol that I own. Mine loves CCI Stingers.
@alienresearchlab
@alienresearchlab Жыл бұрын
A .22LR pistol w high velocity, 1,000 fps +, hollow point ammo, will work for self defense despite some of the nay sayers. Especially if you unloaded a magazine on someone. They are going down. Also, .22LR is way cheaper than 9mm ammo for range days. Recommend CCI .22LR ammo such as: CCI Mini Mag, Stinger, and Velocitor. If you are interested in the Walther P22, check out the German Sport Guns (GSG) 922. It is a full sized, Colt 1911 compact type design. I own one and it shoots great w high velocity ammo. Rarely a jam. Retails for about $350-$400. Also, GSG is part of Sig Sauer and are made in the same factory as the Sigs. Give it a shot! (see what I did there? heh!)
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Great valued info! Thank you
@wicked.mainah5994
@wicked.mainah5994 9 ай бұрын
A 22 for self defense is better than no gun for self defense 👍🏻
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 9 ай бұрын
💯👍
@azbob176
@azbob176 Ай бұрын
Thanks for a good, unbiased report. I own a P-22 and enjoy shooting it. It's a bit particular about the ammo I run through it - don't shoot cheap stuff - but the better American made brands work best. I don't consider a .22 a good 'carry gun'. The smallest caliber I'll carry is the .380 with premium personal defense ammo. With a double-stack mag, it's a formidable defensive weapon. The size and weight are good for me. Of course I own and do carry a couple of different 9mm's. Like you said, do what works for you.
@dinobovo582
@dinobovo582 Жыл бұрын
I do own the Walther P22, I really do like it it's a great little gun. I have a lot of fun with it and it is an extremely cheap gun to shoot. 22 caliber ammunition is priced very reasonable
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
💯🙂👍
@NightSky018
@NightSky018 Ай бұрын
I have also heard that about the lethality of the 22, and I've heard it's due to the fact that larger rounds tend to go straight through whereas smaller rounds will deflect off bone and such. I dont buy it personally, there have been plenty of cases of larger rounds deflecting off bone - biggie smalls was killed by a 9mm round that entered around his hip and ended up in his shoulder, iirc. I think location is everything. I can believe 22s have the highest lethality rate but I'd be willing to bet there's another metric thats not being considered.
@alanduff2205
@alanduff2205 Ай бұрын
I own two Walther p22's. Had one stolen in a home burglary and purchased a replacement. The stolen one was recovered so now I have two. Getting my girlfriend shooting it and will soon give her the extra for self protection. They are great shooting accurate pistols.
@kraigseder
@kraigseder Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m looking at a P22 for lower cost range time and more frequent practice. The 22lr doesn’t have the stopping power, but multiple well placed shots are deadly. I use 9mm for my EDC CCW, but I’d rather have a 22 than nothing.
@robertoacevedo3805
@robertoacevedo3805 8 күн бұрын
This p22 is awesome! Own one and it’s fun to shoot. Great to build skills with and it can do damage.
@jeffb9586
@jeffb9586 Жыл бұрын
Nice, balanced, common sense review, thanks. I have one for me, and one for each son. Everybody gets a P22, and 10/22, and, and, and... Two suggestions. Captured guide rod from Galloway Precision, and a decent threaded barrel adapter from YHM. Universal Twenty Twos! Call your legislator and demand it!
@dragontiger5560
@dragontiger5560 Жыл бұрын
This is a great pistol so easy to rack and shoot, and you can't go wrong with 10rds! Great video 👍
@davidhicks2178
@davidhicks2178 4 ай бұрын
I have a Walther P22Q Nickel slide, i love it. The .22 you bring with you is by fa we better than the .44 Magnum you left at home is what ive always heard. Makes sense to me 😅 Ive brought my Walther with me before but usually i bring my Hellcat 9mm
@richardkatz8713
@richardkatz8713 4 күн бұрын
Due to the decrease noise which will be less distracting in a pressure situation and the fact that the hollow points do significant damage and the ability to place the round I think it's better for self-defense for the 22 in addition to if you hit the wall it's not going to go through the wall into your neighbor's yard
@checkitout4740
@checkitout4740 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Pistols that I have owned and carried were .22 and. 25 cal . Benefits are Cheap ammo and Concealability. You can easily find .22 Pistols that are much smaller than that Walther. I used to be a big fan of Beretta, but I lost my taste for Hammer Fired Pistols. Shot Placement is Most important. My biggest concern with. 22s is that they are Rimfire and you are gonna get some Clicks instead of Bangs. All in all, I still love .22s .
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Well stated info 👍
@neavo8421
@neavo8421 Жыл бұрын
Should be noted that proper ammo usually always goes bang. I had the walther p22 5inch pistol and it went bang every time with Aquila, cci and punch ammo. Cci quiets didn't cycle properly but they fired fine. I also have a walther hammerli tac r1 that shoots every time if I clean it. I went about 800 rounds over the course of a year and it stopped firing because it was so loaded up with carbon it didn't work properly, cleaned it that evening took it back out and cycles properly and without issue. I'm here to defend 22lr and I am willing to stake my position on the assertion that 22lr with properly fitted ammo to the weapon has no more issues than other types of ammuniton.
@Mcsmugger
@Mcsmugger Жыл бұрын
People love to rag on .22 but 10 hits with it is sure as hell deadlier than missing all your shots of 40 S&W
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Very well stated!
@alanrawson-wg8io
@alanrawson-wg8io 4 ай бұрын
The Walther is very nice. Quite accurate. I however bought the Ruger version-ish ,the SR22 . It’s also quite accurate,reliable and concealable.
@3barnesfarm
@3barnesfarm 3 ай бұрын
I started with a 38 snub, and carried hollow tip hydroshock in it. I loved that little gun, but frankly, every time I shot it, I required first aid after... it tore my hand up. Also, it kicked like a tiny angry mule. Now I have a walther p22... what a little party it is, I can go through 500 rounds and not feel like I need triage. It's aim is spot on, it's never jammed, it's more comfortable to handle than my taurus 38, it's more balanced, no kick, no blood loss on my part after practice! .... BTW I'm 4'11 female, I would recommend the 22 over the 38 for most ladies. However, in all fairness, my momma was same size as me, and carried a 357 long barrel. Soooo... there's that
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review of the Walther P22. I have the Walther P22Q and it has served me well. Regarding lethality with a 22 firearm. When I was in the 6th grade a classmate of mine climbed from the front to the back seat of his family vehicle. While doing so he contacted a 22 rifle in the back seat. It discharged, killing him instantly. That said, the 22 LR wouldn't be my first choice for EDC but in an emergency I could make do.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
💯🙂👍👍
@r-leanmygirl-gj2kt
@r-leanmygirl-gj2kt 2 ай бұрын
I have a Walther p22. I carry my .22, loaded with CCI Stingers, as my personal defense firearm. I'm not a hunter, but I've spoken with hunters that have dropped dear with Stingers; they're deadly rounds. I've owned and fired virtually every caliber handgun and rife from .22 to .45. Unless you're an avid shooter, recoil is a factor to deal with, and one you won't have to concern yourself with in a .22. By the time even a skilled marksman has fired his fourth round from his 9mm, I'll have accurately emptied a ten-round clip. However, with the increased possibility of jams due to it being a rimfire weapon, it's important to use a good quality ammunition and to keep it clean
@bamaguy5000
@bamaguy5000 7 ай бұрын
These walthers are very lethal. I have around 20 of these different walther semi automatic pistols and a few Rugers, but they are awesome, accurate and very light with no hard kicks. Low recoil, super easy to disassemble and clean. I recommend to everyone especially to new gun owners. The best part is the price, super affordable. I mean there are dozens of law enforcement agencies that actually use these as there everyday service weapons, so to answer those who wonders if all police agencies carry glocks, no they don’t.
@bobwh
@bobwh 9 ай бұрын
Nice video. I've been looking around at plainkers lately. A .22 LR round obviously can be deadly with a well placed shot, and I've heard and read about cases where the .22 round entered bodies at non-lethal locations but ricochet'd and hit vital organs that ended up fatal.
@WetaSola70
@WetaSola70 7 ай бұрын
More fatalities with a 22 makes sense, it's an entry-level pistol. A lot of people start out as teenagers or younger with a 22 as their first gun. The ammo is cheaper and people that might be intimidated by a more powerful firearm, might find a 22 more manageable. Btw, I love my Walther😁
@williamhickstein685
@williamhickstein685 Жыл бұрын
I read that .22 cal has killed more than any other cal. Also I have a P22 for about 10 yrs and I had to polish the sharp edge between the chamber and the feed ramp, to get it to fire with any brand ammo. CCI Stinger are a little longer than regular ammo and are designed to be fired in a bolt action rifle.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@happysingle6240
@happysingle6240 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this review, I think that a well aimed shot no matter the caliber is what counts. I know so many people carrying large caliber handguns, that never spend anytime at the shooting range.
@davidlabadie2029
@davidlabadie2029 Жыл бұрын
Walter p22 assembly spring is a pain. Ordered a Galloway spring assembly.
@eld2349
@eld2349 4 ай бұрын
I've had 3 of these, an OG, a gen 2 Q, and a QD. I love the concept, size, fit, and finish. There's almost nothing I dont like. Unfortunately, all 3 of mine have ended up being "single shot semi autos," so, so many jams 😢
@neil6961
@neil6961 Жыл бұрын
Love that little pistol. Personally I can't do the .22 round for self defense, but you're exactly right. If that's what you are comfortable with and have trained /practiced with it well that's at least Something. People say "shot placement" counts and that's true but in a panicked few seconds you may not get time for that.. Run what ya brung and hope to get away safely.👍
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Well said my friend
@D-A-1776
@D-A-1776 4 ай бұрын
I got a p99 final release models great guns gotta try one of these
@eddieperkins2739
@eddieperkins2739 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got 2 p22’s they’ve run great after a few hundred rounds of break in but I love all my 22s and sometimes carry my lcp2 in 22 when it’s hard to conceal anything bigger
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Great little gun there for sure!
@tdistel
@tdistel Жыл бұрын
Nice. I just got one and ran 180 CCI without a single hitch. super smooth. I also got the tandemkross captive spring. Makes takedown and reassembling super easy.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 11 ай бұрын
From derringers to semi-autos to 12G shotguns, I've owned and fired virtually every size and caliber firearm that you can think of. My choice for a personal defense weapon is the Walther p22. I can retrieve it and empty the ten-shot clip in five seconds or less. I keep that clip loaded with CCI Stingers; a round deadlier than many larger rounds. With respect to keeping the firearm clean and using only good quality ammunition - everything one should do with all firearms, one MUST do with any .22, due to the higher potential for jamming of rimfire rounds.
@omarc4ut
@omarc4ut Жыл бұрын
Is it the P22 or the updated version P22Q?
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
The original was the p22. The new one is the p22q. The P22Q is just the newest version with small changes. Mags are the same.Sep 12, 2020
@CougarMutt
@CougarMutt 8 ай бұрын
I told my CCW instructor, "One bee hurts, 10 bees kill." She laughed and agreed
@thepunisher67-l7d
@thepunisher67-l7d 8 ай бұрын
I shot it today and is very picky with some ammo. It's great with vci stingers
@tuber3812
@tuber3812 8 ай бұрын
They are indeed very picky on ammo. If you do not have a high velocity round they will Jam continually. Also the rear sights suck. Come loose will not stay adjusted. These are 2 common issues with this gun.
@jimmietanner52
@jimmietanner52 Жыл бұрын
I Love My P22 , And Yes It Is My Carry Pistol !
@terrygoolsby2160
@terrygoolsby2160 Жыл бұрын
Like you video, carry what you practice whether plinking target shoot hunting or defense bullet placement is everything.
@JeffZumbrock
@JeffZumbrock 8 ай бұрын
Enjoyed your video dude..just subscribed
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Awesome to hear
@robjohnson6747
@robjohnson6747 8 ай бұрын
Great video ! One perspective , let’s use CCI stinger 40 grain cartridges, 10 bullets = 400 grains and at .22” in diameter 10 bullets =2.2” in diameter so the thought of receiving 400 grains of lead entering my body at 1,000 fps would be a HUGE pass for me
@liquiddw2
@liquiddw2 Жыл бұрын
Get yourself a Taurus TX 22 compact! You have never shot a reliable 22 as that one is. The slide design even keeps it from getting dirty and fouled up. I love it!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna get one 👍👍
@alienresearchlab
@alienresearchlab Жыл бұрын
I want a TX 22 based on all the good reviews, but it's not on the CA legal 'approved' list (at least for this year). Welcome to CA. Home of where they love telling you what you CAN'T do. SMH.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
@@alienresearchlab so true! Sorry to hear
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Жыл бұрын
​​@@alienresearchlabhen some has the money to challenge it, the new Supreme Court will quash California 's unreasonable and unfair regulations that effectively preclude any improvements in firearms over there.
@alienresearchlab
@alienresearchlab Жыл бұрын
@@mdubb4855 Yep. CA is the state to come to if you want to be told what you can and can't do. Throw a football on the beach? Nope. Can I drink a beer at the beach? Nope. Can I bring my dog to the beach? Nope. Can I do anything other than just sit here quietly on the beach that my state tax dollars pay for? Nope.
@n8365r
@n8365r Жыл бұрын
I have had a p22 for several years. No problems with 3200 rounds through it. With the new Federal Punch ammunition I believe it could be used for personal defense.
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering: what's more effective in short barrel pistols and revolvers, Federal Punch in 22LR or .22 caliber WMR (longer 22 magnum casing that won't fit or fire in standard .22LR's). Out of a long barrel esp. a rifle it's clear the WMR has more foot-lbs of power and higher velocity. However, I believe WMR is designed for long, slow powder burn so it won''t exceed barrel pressure limits, while the .22LR Punch is designed to burn fast to actually transfer full power in a 1.87"-2.6" short barrel pistol or revolver. It's a real world question because my local gun shop has an 8 shot Ruger LCR in WMR on the shelf. I think Federal Punch is a real game changer in the 22 world because it can match 22 WMR in a short barrel setting, but without all the muzzle flash. Has anybody here compared these apples and oranges? As much as I want the 22 WMR Ruger LCR 1.87" I think Punch will work just as well and if I get the .22LR version of this short barrel pistol, it will shoot everything in the 22 LR ammo list including subsonic.
@tonyrebel63
@tonyrebel63 Жыл бұрын
I own a 22 lr pistol and a rifle, that I use for training, and sometimes I carry the pistol for cc. I have never seen any one run to me when I point a gun at them. And if they do with the caliber of a lr I will try to hit where it really hurt. That is subject to one interpretation. I also have some 22 Mag pistols, sweet lightweight shooters, one Taurus revolver, hard to find at a reasonable price, and a Kel tech I love these guns very much. Thank you for sharing your video without all the crazy music lol.
@MrWeliz
@MrWeliz 11 ай бұрын
Or the new CCI Uppercut if you can find it
@esa56
@esa56 Жыл бұрын
When they are dealing with six rounds in a bad spot does it really make any difference whether it's a . 22 or a . 45. Meanwhile you would have 5 left in case of whatever
@AJ-em2rb
@AJ-em2rb 3 ай бұрын
the .22lr fatality rate makes since simply from sheer numbers alone and the fact that more experienced or intentional shooters are more likely to own a variety of caliber sizes. but 22's are everywhere and owned by all manner of people across the entire spectrum of responsibility. anecdotally my ex's extended family loved guns, but never went to the range and they all had only 22's.
@humboldtglitches9349
@humboldtglitches9349 Жыл бұрын
I was at the indoor range today shooting mine. It hasn't seen a lot of love. So I cleaned it up last night. Even though it was already clean as it has even had 400 pounds through it. And I'll be d***** if after about a 110 rounds. The d*** thing had a catastrophic malfunction and the slide. Exploded and thankfully didn't injure my friend. When it flew off the gun and hit him in the cjust. I wanted to the lobby and talk to the gunga. I just felt like a no that it might have been an ammo issue. And he let me know that there rental Walter P22. Did the same thing just food for Thought
@mitch89014
@mitch89014 3 ай бұрын
My favorite gun to shoot, great training gun
@Calibreeze7602
@Calibreeze7602 Жыл бұрын
22lr is a pistol that you empty the entire mag in the center of mass and quickly get out of harms way. Its not a caliber that will necessarily stop an attack, just provide enough time for you to get out the hell out of there.
@rckburris
@rckburris Жыл бұрын
My thoughts sre that a .22 is better than nothing at all for concealed carry. My wife carries this Walther and she loves it.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍 agreed
@Propnut48
@Propnut48 Жыл бұрын
My neighbor was a sheriff for 26 yrs and his duty weapon was a 9mm. When he retired he now carries a .22 as his CCW. He said he saw more .22 deaths the. Any other caliber. He also likes that fi shot in the house it will only travel through 2-3 walls instead of 5-7 with a 9mm or 7-10 with a .45.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Great info! Thank you!
@jamesfife7530
@jamesfife7530 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more videos.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Coming right up my friend. Thanks so much!
@apphappy3796
@apphappy3796 9 ай бұрын
Is A Walther P22 a good start for gun ownership or not if not which one is right for small handed person.? Thanks
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 9 ай бұрын
The Ruger LCP 380 is a great compact carry
@apphappy3796
@apphappy3796 9 ай бұрын
@@411Outdoors Are Barettas still a good pistolI to use like the ones used in earlier james Bond films for beginners?
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 Жыл бұрын
I don't conceal carry. I don't feel the need to. But if I did I would carry 22lr, but it would have to be a revolver. I definitely don't want a jam or cycle failure.
@sergiotisnado545
@sergiotisnado545 4 ай бұрын
A appreciate your temperament, posing your views in the form of a question instead of hard opinion. I'm not saying it's intentional but in any case a positive trait, with ideas presented across humble and honest tone ("God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble"). Anyhow, I disagree with those who are categorically against using a 22 for self defense because it is completely unfounded. ONE of the arguments for using a 22 is familiarity/ease/comfort; if this is what you are comfortable using, then it's the right weapon. Think about knives, for example. A person who has been around knives him whole life will have his favorite self defense knife, hunting knife, throwing knife, etc. It will be the right knife in each case, and not the knife "knife experts" say. Right? Let's dial down the tension and focus any underlying aggression against those trying to take our guns.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@benw4361
@benw4361 Жыл бұрын
22lrs are way less deadly than higher caliber but it's the tradeoff. I think in a close quarter situation where you only get 1 shot before the perp is able to grab you and wrestle you down, 22lr won't be enough unless you land a lucky shot. Perp might still succumb to his wounds but still enough time to take you out before. Compared to being hit with 9mm, 38sp, or 357, I think the comparison would be 22lr is like getting hit in the face with a brick which will hurt like hell but probably wouldnt kill you, while 38sp would be like having a truck hit you at 80 mph. The 2 are dramatically different in power and thus outcome. The chances of surviving 1 is much higher than the other although both are still deadly.
@sgtcote1
@sgtcote1 Жыл бұрын
Personally, IMOP if someone is comfortable with the 22lr for EDC, then I say go for it. Just use quality ammo such as CCI and not bulk ammo. And like you said carrying a 22 is better than nothing at all.
@harrycallahan9733
@harrycallahan9733 3 ай бұрын
0:55 The P22 is actually the first pistol (or one of the first) wearing Walther's name but had nothing to do with the Walther. Umarex purchased Walther back in 1993, and they decided to make a 22 trainer for the then-new Walther P99 that was introduced in 1997. Since they own the Walther name, they get to put it on any of their product :)
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Good info!
@rizzodrat3076
@rizzodrat3076 Жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger LCP II in 22lr and a Walther P22. I have no problem with a 22 pistol for CCW . If you watch the security camera footage of armed incidents, it is almost always the case that as soon as the thug sees or hears your gun, they are beating feet out of there! That being said, I do carry a Ruger LCP II in 380 with Liberty ammo, as 22lr guns are not 100% reliable function wise. But I would be fine with 22lr if that was the gun I was best with.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@joentexas
@joentexas Жыл бұрын
Good review, Thanks.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Anytime my friend 🙂
@LtSump
@LtSump Жыл бұрын
perhaps a .22 may be lethal, but you're usually just going to mildly irritate your target. I just bought one of these though, and it is a great little gun. friday night date night at the range is what we call fun in florida.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! 🙂👍👍
@josephhaack5711
@josephhaack5711 Жыл бұрын
Viable with good ammo, CCI velocitor a good choice. .22 LR. LCP2 good choice . .22 WMR revolvers very viable for Self defense
@benw4361
@benw4361 Жыл бұрын
The reason 22s are the highest in fatality is because they're the cheapest so they make up the majority of what people own. It's got nothing to do with stopping power and everything to do with economics. More people aren't dying to 357 magnum because it's too expensive compared to 22lr
@BillTorrence-bv5hd
@BillTorrence-bv5hd 7 ай бұрын
Grew up using 22 rifles and from my on experience, they are very lethal iffin you know vital points. Lots of deer.
@bretbradford5137
@bretbradford5137 Жыл бұрын
I have read that the 22 can be a more lethal round because of it's light weight. It doesn't go through the offender, it ricochets off bone tearing through other organs. That's the theory anyway.
@johnc95249
@johnc95249 Жыл бұрын
It’s not just a theory. I knew someone who was shot by a .22. The bullet stuck a bone and traveled around his abdomen tearing everything apart. He died in the ER.
@cainhager9814
@cainhager9814 6 ай бұрын
I havent researched it but im going to guess that the reason there possibly would be more fatalities with 22 is just because 22 is all around cheaper, ammo, and the guns used to be at least, so there were more out there and people just used what they had. As far as using one for self defense or carry, yes its better than no gun but also being undergunned can be worse than no gun sometimes because it instills a false confidence to get yourself in a situation your gun may not get you out of, where if you didnt have a gun at all, you mightve avoided. Fantastic trainers though since they are cheap and easy to shoot
@markperry7055
@markperry7055 Ай бұрын
What ammo were shooting in this video
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Ай бұрын
Tac 22 LR I do believe
@truthtone58
@truthtone58 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have one for my everyday carry. They are unreliable, I think a lot of 22s are that way because I have my share of them. I have one of the walther 22lrs and it has jammed and the spent casings won't come out of the barrel to eject. Probable going to have to send it back for some maintenance.
@matthewrainey1894
@matthewrainey1894 10 ай бұрын
Have had my Walther P22 for eight years. Never a miss-fire or jam; it is extremely accurate even for a first-time shooter. It's accurate for light competition and the price is great for new shooters. Highly recommend.
@oscardelta1257
@oscardelta1257 Жыл бұрын
More people are killed with the 22LR round than any other round because many don't take safety into account as the 22 cal is so small thinking it's not deadly and wind up becoming a statistic. Unfortunately, most deaths caused by the 22LR round are accidental
@ahcollier1
@ahcollier1 10 ай бұрын
The OEM guide rod & recoil spring is a garbage design that seems to make the P22 finnicky about choice of ammo, grip & lube. I've shot P22s where I couldn't get through a mag without multiple stoppages. I replaced the OEM spring & guide rod with the TandemKross captured guide rod & spring (a $20 drop in part) and that made the P22 the pistol I thought I was getting. Not only is it much easier to disassemble & reassemble, it virtually eliminated all the failures to feed I was experiencing. The TandemKross turned my disappointment with the P22 into pure joy when firing.
@angelaf5040
@angelaf5040 Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired RN/BSN. I can promise you in my experience working trauma, yes more people have worse injuries with a.22. When people are shot in the head with a 22 it bounces off the inside of the skull bones and leaves pathways through the brain. 9mm will either be a through and through injury or it will stop in the body. 22's move around inside the human body destroying blood vessels and tissue. From what I have seen I'd much rather get hit with a 9mm.
@angelaf5040
@angelaf5040 Жыл бұрын
On the outside of the body a 22 looks less damaging but inside it's destructive.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the input!
@marlow769
@marlow769 6 ай бұрын
Did you say 11 pound trigger pull?
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors 6 ай бұрын
Walther says that the P22 trigger exhibits a pull that requires about 12 pounds in the DA mode and just over five pounds while working things in the single action mode. I could’ve been reading some different specs.
@vinzalarms5079
@vinzalarms5079 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful pistol 🔫
@johnpower8356
@johnpower8356 9 ай бұрын
Love p22
@tomritter493
@tomritter493 Жыл бұрын
The reason it's more fateal is most are cheap and that little round gets in ya it bounces around .the army is snipeing with it now out to 300 yrds
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 👍👍
@DC4EVA
@DC4EVA Жыл бұрын
Does this pistol eat any ammo?
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Not that know of
@DC4EVA
@DC4EVA Жыл бұрын
Ok, wanna get my son his 1st tranning pistol, wanna get him one that is not phoenikee with certain ammo
@1776deplorable
@1776deplorable Жыл бұрын
I love shooting .22s. We need to get together sometime and do some plinking!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
It’s a blast for sure my bro
@hastinglebreton6522
@hastinglebreton6522 Жыл бұрын
Hey....cal 22Lr is very good and it can do the job......good video Bye
@dichicodetails4994
@dichicodetails4994 Жыл бұрын
I would just add that the Walther P22 (Q in my case) likes CCI and Aguila ammo. Winchester, reregardless of grain or rate, gave me many failures.
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 Жыл бұрын
Aguila Super Extra doesn't cycle for me. My P22 is from 2013.
@dichicodetails4994
@dichicodetails4994 Жыл бұрын
@clarkkent1521 since that comment, the interceptor hollow point caused a trip to the gun Smith. Going with cci now.
@joejones8283
@joejones8283 Жыл бұрын
I am a 35 year paramedic and I’ve saw a lot of gunshots. I’ve saw more deaths from a 22 cal than any others.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@martybreeden6116
@martybreeden6116 Жыл бұрын
Off topic sorry, but check out the Ccanku C1292! Great EDC!
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Love that blade sir! May pick one up as I am on a massive double edge kick haha
@martybreeden6116
@martybreeden6116 Жыл бұрын
@@411Outdoors I bought 2!😉😅
@nathanielstevenson8168
@nathanielstevenson8168 Ай бұрын
I train for head shots no matter what the pistol cartridge is so pretty much any bullet will work just as well. It only makes sense to choose a 22 because it cost less so you can get in more practice and with low recoil you don’t anticipate your shot as bad.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Ай бұрын
With the low recoil, you can bang it out
@kenkellar2246
@kenkellar2246 8 ай бұрын
the only other caliber that might be more fatal would be 10mm which is why the New York Coroner’s office actually begged the NYPD to stop using 10mm because of the damage it was doing to criminals…
@cam-inf-4w5
@cam-inf-4w5 7 ай бұрын
This is my whole thing. 9mm is my fav but look......the rapier was arguably one of if not the most deadly KILLING sword ever made. Picture in your mind a rapier stab.. Now look at a 22 bullet hole.... That simple. Knights did not kill eachother with their greatswords, they got in close with them but in the end you use a little ice pick dagger for the kill. Not a slicing weapon, not a big giant sword.
@anbs1682
@anbs1682 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing as a Christian I don’t want to take a life but I will if I have too. And I want to make wise decisions.
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 Жыл бұрын
A 22 can be mistaken for other sounds , fireworks ,etc, just saying …it does bounce off a Raccoons skull, but knocked him out cold,the fun factor is hard to beat on these. Raccoons are tough if you’ve never taken them
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Great info
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 Жыл бұрын
@@411Outdoors scared the heck outta me when he woke up, he looked stone cold dead
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 Жыл бұрын
@@411Outdoorsalso having hunted with them I wouldn’t want to get hit with one
@Will_0001
@Will_0001 Жыл бұрын
Put a suppressor on a P22, and it's very quiet.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
👊👍👍
@clinicaltranscription1190
@clinicaltranscription1190 Жыл бұрын
I do this, and/or use subsonic rounds, and able to practice on my own property w/o disturbing the peace. We have a few acres. Other neighbors shoot larger caliber and I've noticed they've gotten visits by the police, as it's not legal within our town limits. They're also not the most respectful people, shooting in middle of the night, etc. It's a great little pistol, a lot of fun and good price 👍🏼
@ChrisTopher-vh8tu
@ChrisTopher-vh8tu Жыл бұрын
Why are people hating so hard on the p22?
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
I really dig it. I don’t see what there is to hate on. It’s built well and super smooth.
@msavage138
@msavage138 Жыл бұрын
The LA gangbangers used to unload 100 round .22 uzi mags on each other in the 80s. The bullets bounce around in the body. That's what I heard at least when I was a youngster
@adrpals2324
@adrpals2324 Жыл бұрын
What I've hear is that .22 has had more fatalities than any other round in the world. Lots of them have to due with accident shooting and killing. People under estimate the .22.
@harryblackburn9556
@harryblackburn9556 Жыл бұрын
A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a '.44 or 9mm.'
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@shawnbuettner6073
@shawnbuettner6073 Жыл бұрын
Compensate quality with quantity. If you must use a 22 for self defense, do the math. One target, 10:1. Two targets, 5:1. Three targets, 3:1. That clip has 10 rounds for a reason. Use them. Use them all.
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@SHARKATTACK226
@SHARKATTACK226 Жыл бұрын
The host looks like a country David Draiman (lead singer of Disturbed) 🤟 oooohwaaaaa 😅
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
👊👊
@rharrold
@rharrold Жыл бұрын
"I'd rather be shot at with a .44 Magnum & missed than be shot at & hit with a .22!" -- sootch00
@lowrangeoverland9013
@lowrangeoverland9013 Жыл бұрын
classic! my good friend got killed by a .22 shot in the eye ba a scum bag ,
@411Outdoors
@411Outdoors Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear that bro!
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