New Walther P22 review, accuracy, pros & cons and my honest opinion.

[@SupraStringing11b]

I got one recently and took it out to the range for the first time with a few friends. Ran 500rds of Norma tac22 with 0 malfunctions. Out of the 10ish guns we took it was everyone’s favorite.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats bro! Have fun, be safe and God bless.

[@Brandonsantacruz]

I’ve had one or two failure to extract issues

[@andrewleiker9114]

You are great! I like listening and watching your presentations. Please keep them coming!

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks bro! I will and God bless.

[@jpdaddy678]

I just bought one in Massachusetts last week and I really like it..got about 900 rounds through it now and it seems to be getting pretty smooth now..i keep it really clean and oiled..I really like shooting it..another good review!

[@vameathunter2771]

congrats bro and thank you.

[@alursino3213]

Thanks for your honest review, wish I saw this video before I purchased the p22. No malfunction issues either but not the best designed 22. For $249. can’t beat it for a little 22.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yup! And thanks bro.

[@Luckfiberals]

I just bought the p22 target model can't wait to try it out on the range

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats bro! Now, have some fun.

[@jeanbachman5146]

Thank you. I'm waiting for mine to get to my local gun shop. I bought it without trying it (because of Covid), after watching reviews. I needed an easy to handle small 22 for range because of the cost of ammo for my S & W 380EZ. For the most part, reviews have been pretty positive. I appreciate your review. You caught a couple things others didn't mention, like that screw that may need tightened. It will help me to know what to watch for.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats brother! Have fun n God bless.

[@spaghettipizza47]

Use lock tight if you have that problem often cci is the best ammo just not hollow points

[@brutusofnn]

I picked up my P 22 CA on Monday. I put 100 rounds through it on Tuesday. On Wednesday I am now struggling with reassembly due to the recoil spring. Apparently I have the old style spring that doesn’t have the capture cap. Reassembly is a pain I wish I had seen your video prior to my purchase.

[@vameathunter2771]

@@brutusofnn Man that's a bummer.

[@FaganRoberts]

Because of a common cold virus? LOL!

[@FreedomTimes4130]

Just found you're page. I just got one of these for my son to learn on. He's 6.. first pistol for him. Obviously will just load 1 round in the magazine at a time. Until he gets older. But I really enjoyed you're breakdown. Looking forward to watching some more.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats brother n thank you. God bless.

[@tommytP2000]

That is awesome!! I was 6 when when my dad and uncle first took me; however, it was revolver and .22lr rifles only. I am a true believer the earlier the better. I was 10 when they finally let me start shooting his .357 and M1 Rifle. Although my training through child-hood were revolvers only; your son is a lucky dude to be learning on a pistol. Are you considering throwing at .22lr revolver in the mix? I did not even shoot my first pistol until I turned 18 when I went to a pawn shop and bought a 10mm Glock, lol.

[@tattooninja]

That's cool, I didn't even get a cap gun til I was 8 or 10. Liberals would freak out in any case, lol REEEEEEEEeeeeeeee

[@smakusdod]

Fantastic review, thank you for all of the measurements!

[@vameathunter2771]

Thank you and it was my pleasure.

[@methodical_66]

I have a P22 that I bought back in 2018/2019. Initially I had problems...the main problem being feeding and extraction issues. I bought the Volquartsen Extractor...and it sucked, and I didn't see any improvements regarding extraction. Still had the feeding issues at times. So let me tell you how I fixed it. Oh and when I bought the P22 initially it came with a Non Captured guide rod. I bought a Tamdenkross captured guide rod. Helluva lot better and much easier to put back together. I mentioned the Volquartsen extractor...that was junk...so I did some research online and found a company called Lugus Mfg. There's like the Volquarstsen is made of Stainless Steel but the Lugus Mfg is thicker, and the claw is more aggressive and has a better angle. Lastly I polished the feed ramp myself. once those things were done.. the P22 runs like a champ now. What I also would recommend...is run .22lr ammunition that has a minimum 1200 fps

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for sharing, this should help a lot of people.

[@dalanwanbdiska6542]

I just got a browning Auto Rifle in 270 . Very cool rifle. Now i got 2 semi autos in hunting calibers. 270 and 30.06 . The BAR has a nikon prostaff scope. Im going to take it apart and clean it good.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats bro! You got the right calibers and God bless.

[@chevynova-zf5jm]

Great video! I got a P22Q yesterday.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks and congrats bro.

[@Will_Notcomply365]

Good video! Thanks for the insight.

[@vameathunter2771]

It was my pleasure and happy new year.

[@oladahl]

This was good and useful info.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks bro n God bless.

[@ChrisB10]

Bought mine for 279.99 brand new from Runnings in upstate NY. If you buy the right ammo and keep the chamber and feed ramp clean its ultra reliable. Feed it mini mags, aguila high velocity, rem golden bullet or even Armscor and it'll run great. Also I put a Hogue grip on mine and it feels much better to hold now. In the beginning this gun was a pita but I love mine now.

[@vameathunter2771]

Sounds great and thanks for sharing.

[@mickeymcfinnigan2407]

Just a question. I live near the Runnings in Rome. Is the model you got a CA or regular. Curious because website has both.

[@tattooninja]

@@mickeymcfinnigan2407 Do you mean California compliant? You probably don't want that if you can avoid it, but I dunno what Rome allows. I think the one in this vid is CA compliant, so it won't shoot w/out the mag.

[@tomjones7285]

Good review decent looking gun. I really don't like how that come apart tho. With one weaker hand I just don't care for the glock style take down slides. But pretty fancy shootin Doc Holiday. And thats for the loan Danger Dan.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep! Thanks bro n God bless.

[@TheJohndeere212]

They are great hand guns.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yes they are n God bless.

[@spaghettipizza47]

I had this one before I loved it so much so much fun to shoot I’m definitely gunna get another one on reason to buy this one is cuz it’s fun and it’s a 22 the 9.m version isn’t as fun to shoot just buy a Glock at that point and cci is the best to shoot not the hollow tips tho and they do make a compensator for it I had it

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep! I agree with you 100%.

[@redzone1019]

Great video. Are the recoil springs for the old and new Walther P22 interchangeable?

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks and I'm not sure but I don't think so.

[@curanderoverde]

If you polish the feed ramp, chamber edge and ridge on the hammer with a dremel it pretty much solves any issues....

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for the info brother.

[@spaghettipizza47]

I can confirm this is true and really works especially with hollow points they jam it up if it’s not cci

[@apophisprime7135]

Just bought this pistol. I don't like the magazine disconnect or the Safety. Not because of the style of safety but because it's a safety. I don't understand why any pistol would have a magazine disconnect or a safety. (Drop safety yeah but manual safety... Why? You don't want it to shoot then keep it in the kydex.) Other than those two things, I think it's awesome. Feels, looks and functions great.

[@vameathunter2771]

I agree brother n congrats! God bless.

[@spaghettipizza47]

Yea when I first got one I thought that the safety was stupid just makes you feel really uncomfortable like only a little tiny bit stops it from hitting the pin but that’s not enough room for my comfort very scary but it it what it is just gotta be really careful as usual like any other gun ig

[@CoelhoSports]

My problem with that safety is it is in the down position when safe and up when live, which is the opposite of almost all other firearms. As far as whether to have a manual safety or not, that's personal preference. As a pocket pistol you may want to reconsider your aversion to manual safeties because of the possibility of the trigger catching something and then the future generations could be in peril. Too many stories of people shooting themselves downstairs when the trigger gets caught on something

[@apophisprime7135]

@@CoelhoSports I agree. I very rarely pocket carry. When I do, it's in dress pants. That way, unlike jeans, I'm in the mindset that nothing can touch my pants. I naturally don't want them getting dirty anyways. Plus I use a pocket carry holster that stays in when I pull the pistol out. Also nothing else ever goes in that pocket. I prefer a minimalist kydex trigger guard only holster on my belt. I traded this pistol back in on the Walther PPQ.22lr. It fits my .22lr needs more and it's been a great pistol. As far as concealed carry goes... I'll just stick to my G42 as my smallest carry opinion from now on. In retrospect, I really love how the P22 looks and feels. I'm very attracted to it aesthetically. However, it didn't fit my lifestyle/carry mentality the way I wanted it to.

[@thebigfellar7178]

Hey Doc . Been awhile since I was here. A good pistol for the small amount of cash. Course I'm also fond of the Bersa thunders too. Both of these guns are very dependable for the small amount paid. Seems like whether you're asking or talking about either, both have loyal followers. With very few negative Nellie's. I like all mine. But I like everything I can get my hands on , without the wife to regulate me now and again. I could be in real financial difficulty. Lol. My brothers always ask me just how many guns do I actually have ? But I never tell. The wife knows exactly how many, I don't want to know. Ya know. Anyways you look great. Nothing but the best to you and your family. Peace.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks bro and yes one gun regulation that I respect is my wife's regulation 😆😂. Recently I did a review on two 22LR pistols (Taurus TX22 and Keltec P17) and I was absolutely blown away. Thanks for stopping by and God bless your family big fellar.

[@irongoose3865]

The function is needed so that you don't have an accidental discharge because you forgot to clear the gun and not so you don't dry fire it. Pistols are notorious for accidentally going off because a round was left in the chamber. Magazine disconnects are a great feature. I'm not sure why lots of folks don't like them.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for sharing and I think most people are not use to it.

[@spaghettipizza47]

I really like that about the gun it’s more safe and nobody belongs shooting a pistol without a magazine anyways lmao absolutely no situation should you drop out your magazine and then fire off the last bullet in the chamber it makes no sense so at that point Why Not have this extra safety precaution it’s kinda nice cuz you can leave it laying around and keep the mag in your pocket it’s kinda child safe Nobody can fire it without the mag I basically a key I like that

[@tattooninja]

@@spaghettipizza47 It doesn't make sense to me because I don't need it. If I'm never firing without the mag & there's no reason to fire one round or anything, then we're never doing that, so we don't need it. Doesn't it just add more parts & things that could go wrong? Making the mag into a key only makes sense in places that require you to keep ammo & gun separate (which obviously makes it almost useless).

[@matthewlyness8161]

I picked one up for 100 bucks yesterday I have to do some filing on the pistol

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats bro! that's a great deal.

[@michaelmiller5877]

So, I am curious, the first time you fired the pistol, you appear to be sighting using your right eye and your trigger finger is on your right hand. Afterwards, you cover your right eye with a perforated, appears to be a sunglass lens and yet your are still shooting with your right hand. Trying to figure this out???

[@vameathunter2771]

With my aging eyes I could only see the target clearly so this bug eye helps me to see both sights and the target. Yes it looks funny because I made it myself. I only need to use it if I want to see the accuracy. Thanks for watching n God bless.

[@markpaterson6466]

The barrel can be swapped out for a longer one, that is why it has the outer sleeve and threaded bushing.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jonardlopez5019]

Right on boss

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks bro n God bless.

[@goat1394]

My dad bought me this gun I’m so excited, I get it on the 23rd. I was wondering if it’s a good pistol for a beginner?

[@eriklundquist1657]

I would say yes, generally. Mine took time (about 50 to 100 rounds) to break in and cycle reliably, now it works flawless with a variety of ammo but I was a little disappointed at first when it had problems.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats brother n you had a great dad. Yes, it's a great gun for beginner for sure. God bless.

[@goat1394]

@@vameathunter2771 thanks man, you earned a new sub.

[@vameathunter2771]

@@goat1394 Thanks ;-)

[@gypsysanz8603]

I bought a used one, I think the original owner didn't shoot it much and never cleaned it because he had no idea how to field strip it and it was dirty inside. I reasearched it a lot before buying it and I was aware of potential problems and reputation with some people (picky eater, uncaptured spring...etc) The gun is great and the ergonomics are great! Have I had issues...? Yeah...do they bother me...? Not really. This pistol has a break-in period of about 1,000 rounds (hammer and ramp issues will usually dissapear). After the brake-in period the gun should be one of the smoothest and reliable...one can speed up this process by polishing ramp, chamber and hammer. One can upgrade spring, but once you figure out how to easily re-insert the uncaptured spring, it's not a big deal...and one can change extractor...not an issue for me. I know some people are of the opinion of "a gun should be suoer smooth out of the box "...well either one hasn't been around long enough or one doesn't acknowledge that you are dealing with a mechanical device through which you put explosive devices! All things mechanical can have malfunctions some more than others...even cars have a break-in period. My P365 .380 is super smooth but I had ammo malfunction (due to ammo; fiocchi)...so...wear and tear usually smooth things out. The magazine disconnect is mandatory in CA to prevent accidental discharges of rounds forgotten in the chamber...I suspect that Walther decided to make this standard on all P22s. The barrel is threaded and you can put a suppressor on it, except in CA where any threaded barrel is consider an assult weapon. In CA all P22 barrels are permanently attached and you cannot diassemble the barrel without potential damage to barrel and possibly braking the law...so that's that! Good non-partial review 👍

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate you.

[@misterx8592]

I bought a used P22 that is in great shape. Shoots well but I hate the mag release. So Im selling it.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep I really didn't like the mag release :-(

[@governmentissued610]

This fire has been pretty good to me my lady enjoys great for beginners

[@vameathunter2771]

Yup! And lucky lady.

[@jackhazz5777]

I havent fired mine yet. But for a 22, it sounded very loud in your video.

[@vameathunter2771]

You need to do some shooting but don't forget to clean your barrel before shooting for the first time to remove any particles that can cause damage.

[@charlesburdette7497]

It’s picky what to shoot through it was surprised it will eat blazers all day long still playing with it 3 inch barrel it’s good for 30 feet great truck gun

[@LakeMurraySunsets]

It’s California Compliant. That’s why it won’t shoot without a magazine. I know of instances where people have had an inadvertent discharges with California compliant weapons, because of that feature. For those of us who live in states that are still free, this is an unnecessary feature which can be dangerous if you don’t practice with it.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep! I heard brother n you are right.

[@2fast4you25]

But this fearures is in many guns and from way back 2 and nothing to do with california laws. I had Smith & Wesson 1006, and 4506 none of them fired with no mag.

[@swimbassin6196]

Glock shoots

[@nastymkfan]

Noted thank you. If only Walther had more CA compliant guns. I’m hoping the Walther PK 380 and Walther PPK/S become CA compliant.

[@brandontekano6825]

Is there somewhere I can get the updated spring for my P22??

[@vameathunter2771]

I found this online. www.tandemkross.com/waltherp22-upgraded-captured-guide-rod

[@darbyheavey406]

I agree with the magazine release…it’s awkward and a bit small.

[@vameathunter2771]

YUP! Thanks for watching.

[@jcarabillo46]

Good video.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks n God bless.

[@richardkalbfeld]

Use the best ammo you can get. High velocity. Copper plated. Keep it well oiled.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for great advice.

[@RescueEMS]

Can you advise what ammo you used

[@vameathunter2771]

I use Federal target grade ammo, thanks for watching.

[@MichaelM-tt5wd]

The firing pin block safety is ABSOLUTELY BEST thing on the gun ! iT ALLOWS YOU TO DO DRY FIRE TRAINING without harming the breech of the barrel.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yup! Thanks for watching n Merry Christmas.

[@MichaelM-tt5wd]

@@vameathunter2771 Thanks alot and Merry Christmas 4 U 2.

[@hipfire_22]

What ammo did you use.

[@vameathunter2771]

Federal target grade n God bless.

[@Pradeep19.]

but this a beautiful pistol i love it

[@vameathunter2771]

Yes, I agree brother.

[@jap4499]

Do you know where he ordered the upgraded spring? And just bought the pistol yesterday and test fired it only lets me shoot in safe mode

[@vameathunter2771]

I believe this upgraded spring came with the new model. What... in safe mode???

[@jap4499]

@@vameathunter2771 when i shoot the pistol it only works with the safety on instead of fire! I just bought it 2 days brand new. Any ideas?

[@vameathunter2771]

@@jap4499 No, this is a big safety issue and the you should really let them know. Having a confusion with safety is a big no no, thanks for sharing.

[@jap4499]

@@vameathunter2771 thanks mate will get it taken care of ASAP!!

[@HotSizzleTV_]

Man I love my p22 I remember my ex buying her p22 back in 2008 I think and I just bought one last her ver 2 I love it to plank around and to teach my mom and family how to shoot because they have a hard time racking guns.

[@vameathunter2771]

Great job bro n God bless.

[@paulww2270]

Thanks

[@vameathunter2771]

My pleasure.

[@MrJohnp9]

Can the new spring be purchased and replace the long spring?

[@vameathunter2771]

Yes, I think so.

[@9JP76]

@@vameathunter2771 what is the piece called?

[@vameathunter2771]

@@9JP76 Search for recoil spring replacement for Walther P22.

[@michaelcarey3105]

Pinker? Guys I know use it for a carry gun. I had one when it first came out, loved it and had no jams intil 20,000rds in. That came about due to a melt down where slide meet metal on the frame. I guess 20,000rds in 5 months(?) was too much. They fixed it and no problems until I sold it.

[@vameathunter2771]

🤣🤣🤣 Yes, 20K rds in 5 months is bit much. Thanks for sharing n God bless.

[@CoelhoSports]

Generally not a good idea to dry fire a rimfire pistol on live setting. Eventually you'll damage the pin or chamber wall. Some .22's are made to dry fire safely and say so in their manual but most tell you not to do it. On safe this is ok to dry fire.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yup! Thanks for sharing. 😁

[@Eric_A.]

The fact that it won't fire with magazine removed is called a magazine disconnect and is a CA requirement. Just one of the features that makes a handgun "not unsafe".

[@vameathunter2771]

YUP! Very not unsafe 😂, thanks for sharing.

[@dantetejeda1868]

Anyone know how to get one in CA for a decent price?

[@vameathunter2771]

I'm not sure about the CA laws but you should look into online stores and find a good FFL near you.

[@eddy-fw7hv]

I own a walther. Pros: cheap ammo 8/10 it’s gonna be reliable. Pretty accurate. Cons. Hiccups with high velocity rounds CCI stuff. Oh and the safety is like odd so you have to get used to it. Mags hard to come by :( Price. 3something Ammo ? Cheap cheap cheap Size: I have really big hands and I had no problem once I installed the larger grip that comes with the gun. Verdict ? Don’t over pay for one. 8/10

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for the info brother n God bless.

[@toejam7606]

I believe the reason it won’t fire without a mag is from a California requirement iirc. Don’t like this pistol at all, it’s very picked, pain to clean with recoil spring not captured. I picked up a M&P 22

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep! thanks for the info and congrats on M&P 22.

[@garlandxx3400]

People who love cleaning their firearms rarely complain about malfunctioning weapons . Just my opinion. 😊

[@vameathunter2771]

YUP! Thanks for watching.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

i clean after EVERY trip to the range ...

[@boomerrangerron]

Good advice to do your research before you spend your hard earned money! Great advice!

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks Ron and God bless.

[@mv-db4463]

On the California version, when there is NO magazine in the gun, the trigger is disengaged. California calls it a Magazine Disconnect is is supposed to prevent accidental discharges with a round that was LEFT in the chamber. I like the feature and detest just about everything else California !

[@vameathunter2771]

thanks for watching and sharing.

[@Dad_Stuff2004]

The magazine disconnect mechanism is there to protect idiots who don't know that a round can still be in the chamber after dropping the mag.

[@vameathunter2771]

YUP! People really need to practice more. Thanks for sharing n God bless.

[@richardlee4438]

What is a good holster?

[@vameathunter2771]

Honestly this is not my gun so I'm sure but here is a good site.www.craftholsters.com/walther-p22-holsters?gclid=Cj0KCQjwh_eFBhDZARIsALHjIKfg0zGLaOuxKfYp50U6ttB08z6gMQ3ph3wIW8cTKpTy6f_b6tIQE5caAlmWEALw_wcB

[@DirtdogMTB]

should have had the safety on while dry firing, so you dont breaK the firing pin

[@vameathunter2771]

You can't dry fire with safety on (fire pin will not strike), and this is dry fire safe pistol ;-). Thanks for watching.

[@eriklundquist1657]

O, my! Do not dry fire UNLESS in safe mode!!! Firing pin damage may result.

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for the info n God bless.

[@randmayfield5695]

I just bought one and right out of the box i sight it and saw that the front sight was tilting to the right. Unpon further inspection it was loose and wiggly. It's simply a very poor design. I bought a $42 aftermarket sight to replace it. I love the the p22 for lots of reasons and dislike it for a few others. Walther isn't as good as they say they are.

[@vameathunter2771]

Congrats! And thanks for sharing.

[@jt56giants]

Magazine safety feature for the state ,s that require this for certification 😢

[@vameathunter2771]

😢😢 Stupid regulations, but what do you do. Thanks for sharing.

[@alienresearchlab]

Everyone that complains about the P22 malfunctions - just stop using cheap bulk ammo! CCI Mini Mags - no problems.

[@vameathunter2771]

Got you!

[@mgsharnhorst]

I bought 3 of these P22s for the kids to train and plink with, and they are MALFUNCTION MACHINES... complete junk. I have tried all the fixes, tried several factory magazines, a bunch of different ammo. No help. On the upside, we have gotten a lot of practice clearing malfunctions.

[@vameathunter2771]

🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for sharing brother.

[@darbyheavey406]

Cheating with the aftermarket captured spring.

[@vameathunter2771]

😂

[@2fast4you25]

Well cant ask much from a $260 back up gun. Then again for not much more you can get a GLK26. Sooo yeah.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep!

[@chaospanda9000]

Lol everything you don't like is what alot of people like about it, got mine foe 250 with two mags

[@vameathunter2771]

LOL! Thanks for watching n God bless.

[@jeanbachman5146]

Chaos panda, do you find yours to be picky about ammo? One of the concerns I've heard in other reviews..

[@vameathunter2771]

@@jeanbachman5146 I was concern about that as well and it jams with it gets little dirty.

[@bradclem6226]

I see u like to deer hunt unless u shed hunt.Deer hunting opened up when I was 18 here n Ky and I’ve hunted every yr ever since and I am 60 now.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yes, I love to hunt and to provide my family with great meat. I hope you'll have many more successful hunts.

[@nickhendo3960]

Ca legal cant fire with mag out

[@vameathunter2771]

Of course it's Cali.

[@nickhendo3960]

@@vameathunter2771 the land of communism

[@vameathunter2771]

@@nickhendo3960 Yup!

[@baretruth8438]

Not a good idea to dry fire rim fire guns.

[@vameathunter2771]

Yep!

[@brandonbennett127]

Is it technically dry fireing if the hammer never strikes the firing pin?

[@blaynemacpherson8519]

Nope to many cons for the money. There are better out there for the same or a few dollars more that would be worth buying. My 1911-22 and S and W both have the magazine safety in it. I took it out of the 1911-22. I find them to be a pain in the tush. For the P22 to be dry fire safe you have to have the safety on with the safety on and no mag will it “fire”? Good review but it seemed to me that with all the cons you didn’t really like it but were little apprehensive to say that.

[@vameathunter2771]

LOL! You noticed.. I would not buy one for myself. God bless

[@blaynemacpherson8519]

@@vameathunter2771 You re a good guy Doc. “The firearm we are talk (whichever one it is) is an “ok” “fine” “good” firearm but with these cons it is not one I’m particularly be interested in purchasing.” I’ve noticed a few of your followers take your opinion seriously. You do a good job with the reviews very thorough it’ll come down to your personal opinion on if one buys or not. Just food for thought. 👍🏻 have a great weekend.

[@vameathunter2771]

@@blaynemacpherson8519 Thanks bro and I appreciate your food for thoughts and take your advice.

[@apophisprime7135]

Isn't the 19-22 pretty much 3x the size and 5x the weight?

[@blaynemacpherson8519]

@@apophisprime7135 it is a full metal pistol. X3 and x5 I’m not sure if it’s that much but it is more. Which in turn gives you a disadvantage because you have to shoot high velocity ammunition unless if you get the upgrade for it. Then the 1911 takes over the weight helps keep the recoil down. Shooting a full metal pistol feels better in the hand in my opinion.

[@davidhandyman7571]

Not being able to fire it without the magazine being in is so that you cannot have a negligent discharge because you left a round in the chamber and removed the mag to put it away "safely". It is an idiot safety device.

[@vameathunter2771]

YUP! too much politics.

[@edlattina2638]

Is that gun new ? Can't buy walther p22 new anymore its consider a throw away gun or Saturday night special its on what the government calls a meltdown list but you can buy it used or you can already own it but you can't buy it new

[@vameathunter2771]

Really.... Thanks for the info and yes this was new.

[@RescueEMS]

This P22 is available in CA at Turner's regularly. The pistol is not classified as a "Saturday Night Special" in any State. Your reference to a "government meltdown list" is curious. Neither the ATF nor the Department of Justice sites confirm what you are saying. Numerous reputable You Tube reviewers in several states have done extensive testing on this pistol and supported it as a good pistol for a new shooter. Most suggest CCI Mini Mags but not the hollow point versions. Overall, it appears you have some issues with availability.

[@edlattina2638]

@@RescueEMS have no issues with it its just not available to purchase new in Illinois or any state . It's on the atf meltdown list i have looked it up on the atf list it and 100 other hand guns or on it if you can throw it in a fire and it can melt at serton degree it is on the federal firearms meltdown list atf it is considered a Saturday night special you can buy it used but not new and you can legally own it.

[@satur9satur9]

@@edlattina2638 . Bought one new in Ohio.(Cabela's) last month. I've seen them new in other shops as well.

[@brandonbennett127]

@@edlattina2638 bought a brand spanking new one today. You sir need to put the pipe down and stop talking out your ass.

[@mavicaskium1892]

Like....p 22

[@vameathunter2771]

Thanks for watching and me too.