Walther PDP Long Stroke Recoil Reduction System from ZRTS

[@JacksonWalter735]

Thank you for all that you do for the PDP platform. We are lucky to have you.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@roycekillz2404]

Whoever thought of this is literally a genius. Great product!

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Thanks!

[@MrTrexheli]

I put this new guide rod in my 5" pdp steel frame. It gives the gun a softer recoil you do feel your slide is traveling further back when shooting. I like the look of the pistol with guide rod showing in the front now.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Out of curiosity, why didn't you get the model designed specifically for the 5" SF?

[@chrisdiceart]

2nd comment - Reached out to ZR for support and had a helpful response same day. I installed this guide rod system and it's another increment better - Steel frame weight, soft ammo, long stroke guide rod all help. I really liked the "standard" ZR Tactical GR, this is another "click" better. 👍

[@justint5648]

Can i use +p loads with this setup in my 4.5 or is this not intended to be used with high power loads?

[@henrywong3871]

Looks awesome. Any plans to do a live fire video showing the benefits with the long stroke guide rod? Also, can the captured recoil spring be swapped out?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes it can be

[@oddsparrow8522]

Please explain why it should be better to move it longer ? I want it to cycle as little as possible to make it comeback to Zero faster. But maybe I understand it wrong.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

No, you want it to have a longer distance to slow the slide. The shorter stroke give it a quick, snappier impulse

[@JUSTAGUY1000]

It definitely makes the gun a soft shooter but it’s too sluggish for competition. Just ditched mine and went back to the factory one. Probably gonna order the normal length 15# and give it a try.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

We have a 16lb spring for it that makes the impulse a little faster. Our Ultra Mass in 15 runs great as well

[@kcwtfever]

I use my PDP 4.5 as a duty weapon and issued ammo is the Hornady critical duty 135 grain +P. Are there any concerns with failures if I switch the guide rod to your long stroke system?

[@kevinshelton7917]

Im struggling to understand why the striker had to come out for that process? at any rate I'm very intrigued with the product and have heard good things.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@kevinshelton7917 because you can’t slide the spacer over the striker. To remove the spacer, the striker needs to be removed. It takes seconds

[@kevinshelton7917]

Thanks for the fast reply, i didnt pay close enough attention that it has to slide completely out the back.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

So, I noticed you guys updated the website to say not to use it in a 5" polymer PDP. In contrast, it says the 4.5" long stroke is not compatible with the 5" PDP. THEORETICALLY, if I was to use the guide rod spacer for a 4.5" slide in my 5" slide, would it work?

[@XtremeAdventures671]

Looks like website was updated, now it states “ONLY fits 5" Long Slide PDP Match SF ~ Use on a Poly 5" could damage your ejector”…initially it did not state this!!! What is people with 5” Poly ordered prior?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

There are multiple iterations of slides and ejectors and we can’t guarantee fit because we can’t get an answer on what models are updated and which aren’t. If it isn’t compatible we will swap you out or take them back. We only had them listed for poly for 4 days

[@chriscarlisle499]

I am looking to replace with one but can’t decide if I should do the brass recoil kit or the long travel. Any advice?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@chriscarlisle499 long stroke only works in 5” Match models.

[@chriscarlisle499]

@@zrtacticalsolutionsthat’s why I am asking. That is what I have so again which is better? It to me sounds like could be some personal preference so I might get both and see what I like better then go buy another one hahahahah

[@chriscarlisle499]

Oh by the way Chris who I talked to today know what’s up. Way to go man. Finally someone who gets it hahhaha

[@ZChaosFactor]

Any plans to make a 4 inch version for my Q4SF?

[@WettDoggTV]

I have the Walther pdp compact, and i love it, but my wife says it a little too snappy for her.. I was looking for a way to reduce recoil so she is more comfortable shooting it.. Upon researching this subject i have only found headaches and conflicting information.. Can someone help me? Does a heavier recoil spring reduce recoil? Or does a lighter recoil spring reduce recoil? Ive tried to help her by showing her better ways to grip the gun, and that has helped mitigate recoil somewhat, and putting a compensator is out of the question for me because i don't like the way they look nor do i care for how loud they make the gun, as well as the blinding flash and the way i have to constantly clean it.. Im hoping i can get a better understanding of whether increasing or decreasing recoil spring weight will help decrease recoil, thanks

[@808G8GT]

This vs DPM system? What is better for competition shooting?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@808G8GT DPM is the opposite of what we are achieving. They add crazy amounts of extra spring tension to overcome poor form. Most competition loads likely won’t function with their system

[@andershilmo1866]

Can I replace the recoil spring if I want to. After it wears out or if I decide to try another spring weight?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes we sell service kits and spare springs

[@nickbantien4618]

Will this work on a compact 5” if it has a dynamic trigger and sear block, or is there a reason it only works in full size 5” vs a compact 5” frame?

[@JawnThicc]

Will it make the 45oz weight limit for IDPA Carry Optics with the Long Stroke rod and 507 Comp?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes. 41.75

[@chrisdiceart]

If you ever reshoot this video... I sure like a better look at how you are moving the "ears" on the plastic sleeve. I'd like to try the guide rod but don't want to destroy the plastic sleeve if I want to go back to the captured GR.

[@PapaZucchini]

what combo would you recommend for a pdp pro sd, with herrington arms micro comp? I've been putting off buying a set. After looking at reddit it seems your products are what I'm looking for. Would love some input. thanks

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Not long stroke. 15 or 13lb captured from us depending on ammo

[@PapaZucchini]

@@zrtacticalsolutions I run a lot of 115 or 124 fmj. Primary use of the gun is range shooting/semi competitive

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@PapaZucchini you should try both and see what runs best. We don’t test Harrington comps. Only ours

[@PapaZucchini]

@@zrtacticalsolutions understood, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond to my msg. You've got my business, look forward to testing it out

[@henrywong3871]

Any plans to make a long stroke guide rod for the ppq q5 steel frame?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Physically impossible

[@kayelones]

This might be a dumb question. I have a PDP Why would you want the slide to go further back?

[@MinuteBracelet]

More leeway for the slide to move and dump its energy before it hits the limit of its travel so it changes the recoil impulse

[@coles.1524]

Long strike vs ultra mass assembly for a 4.5”?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Depends on model. If it’s a steel frame, then long stroke

[@tonac13]

How can i get one in Europe?

[@christopherrivard-qr6nu]

This will work on the 5.1” threaded barrel , pro model?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

No

[@keimolantio]

So, any test available showing actual results by a competitive shooter?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Sure. Ben Stoeger. He has a video on his channel

[@gero4415]

does this work on the latest steel frame model?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes that’s what it was designed for

[@LGN26]

Would this work on the pdp pro compact 4.6 ??

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

No

[@LGN26]

@@zrtacticalsolutions thanks for the timely response which would you suggest I get I’m in the market right now for a guide rod and definitely interested in your product

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Our standard 15lb captured rod

[@whippedflame8484]

Any plans for this in the Q5 SF?

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

? Does the Q5 not use a 5" guide rod?

[@ChrisSullins]

Is that the PDP Match SF?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes

[@ChrisSullins]

@@zrtacticalsolutionsI have one. What item number is that so I can order it?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

It’s under Walther parts on our website. 5” long stroke and there is a link in the description.

[@ChrisSullins]

Do I order the 5in for the PDP SF?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@ChrisSullins yes if you have the 5” gun