Walther: PDP PRO SD VS PDP PRO E - Why Might You Want One Over The Other?!!

[@jeffreyzendler4908]

Thanks for the side-by-side. Wanted a PDP for my first gun, and was wondering about the differences between PDP, Pro SD, and Pro-E. I might still go with just the PDP, it's on sale thru Bass Pro / Cabela's for only $499 (4.5" all black) with the free RD Optic deal from Walther.... amazing value!

[@DrTac]

I am so glad you enjoyed the video. You really can't go wrong, and $499 is a great price!!

[@rvoykin]

I wish they would make the E with the same features as the SD minus no suppressor threads and a 4” barrel

[@DrTac]

I’m with you. Truthfully, I don’t really want the magwell either, since I’m using mine primarily as a conceal carry gun.

[@timbenham516]

Just gonna get the regular compact and put the aluminum dynamic trigger in.

[@DrTac]

@ that is exactly what I would do…unless you really want a threaded barrel and/or a mag well…but for ccw, the compact PDP with the Dynamic Trigger is ideal.

[@naughtyca131970]

@@timbenham516 its 179 price just for the trigger

[@FunniestFlicks]

i mean it is pretty much besides the trigger shoe

[@jasonlester8411]

I am debating which PDP to get. Thanks for the video!

[@DrTac]

My pleasure. The good news is that there are no bad choices 😎

[@FRMN8R_T4R]

That Pro-E is definitely calling to me. Love that Shark-X Pro too!!! Have the Cyelee Cat X-Pro on my XMacro and it’s an amazing optic! Keep up the great content - even in Sept this is one of the ONLY comprehensive reviews of the Pro-E! Thanks Doc!

[@CitizenCarrier]

I absolutely love my regular Full Size 5 inch PDP’s. Both are the 2.0 optic cut version. One thing I want to say about checking the trigger pull weights. As some may or may not know, there is more to the feel of a trigger than just the weight. For a striker gun, the PDP’s are definitely toward the top of the food chain. Even though they are just the normal curved PDT triggers. Still….phenominal feeling triggers. But I have a Canik TP9 Elite Combat and the trigger weight is exactly the same as my Walther’s. Very low 3 pound pull range. But the Canik feels just slightly better to me because it is an aluminum, flat faced trigger and for whatever reason, the wall is solid with zero movement until the break. Very crisp! It has that “glass rod” break and the reset is the shortest I’ve felt on a striker fired gun. But again, the PDP’s overall…my favorite striker guns I own.

[@heinerlange443]

I LOVE DOCTOR TACTICAL.

[@DrTac]

...AND DOCTOR TACTICAL LOVES YOU!!

[@Slayereyez]

They are the best striker fired triggers on the market. Canik is a close 2nd.

[@DrTac]

I completely agree!!

[@2aisabsoluteTim]

Yea Walther and Canik Best triggers on the market Fun fact Walther gave Canik the right to use their trigger idea. But Canik is the only one they allow so far

[@TexasHunter99]

Funner fact canik is a turkish made gun and the turkish govt doesnt recognize lawsuits from other countries. Walther has tried to sue .. they can't do shit so yeah just take it, lol . And the turkish govt supplies terrorists ... canik is a good gun but walther is better .​@2aisabsoluteTim

[@Lumpygrits76]

I’ve got the Basic PDP comp. It’s awesome but I did swap out the guide rod for a stainless and went with a slightly lighter 15lb spring. Lol the PDP pro comp is proving tricky to find where I’m at so I’m going to try ordering one. The mags are very similar to the PDQ mags I run in my PDP. I have had a couple failure to feeds with the PDQ mags but I have had multiple thousands through them. Might just be time to get a few replacements. I’m an unapologetic Walther fanboy

[@DrTac]

Walther puts out such great products, you never need to apologize for being a fanboy. The PPQ mags should be totally compatible with the PDP. Please let us know when you get your Pro, I can’t wait to hear what you think of that trigger!!

[@mattkistner9863]

On the website for Walther the pdp e has a 4.5 inch barrell

[@DrTac]

Yes, that is for the full size version. Look up the barrel length of the compact version. Both, the Pro E and the Pro SD guns I reviewed in this video were in the compact configuration, with the 4” and the 4.6” barrel lengths, respectively.

[@WettDoggTV]

I wish u had done magazine compatibility.. i have the regular PDP compact, will the E or the SD's magazines work in it?

[@RepentorPerish77]

Yes

[@SB-em2ks]

What's the difference between the E (20 rounds) and SD (18 rounds) magazines? Is it just a longer base plate?

[@v.german11b]

The trigger pull should be gauged by engaging the trigger horizontally straight, not at an angle as you did. That's why the readings were low (light) incorrect.

[@palumbo78]

The pdp pro sd id ooooo so nice, i had to buy it twice! Nice video bud!

[@DrTac]

Ain’t it though?!! Thank you for your kind words and enjoy your phenomenal SD’s!!😎

[@rachelozeryan793]

What?! 😮 Walther has PDP SD Pro and E- I had no idea that they had released a new version!! Yay😁 I wonder how the PRO would be as a carry for me…😎 Love the stands on the thumbnail!! I appreciate the consistency and enthusiasm that is evident in your channel!! 🙌🏼 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@DrTac]

I know, right?!! 😎

[@oneblood100]

Exact message from Walter about trigger : It states in the description on the right hand side that it is the E-DPT, which is referring to the polymer flat faced trigger shoe. It is not a dynamic trigger, it is just the normal PDP trigger, with a polymer flat faced trigger shoe.

[@DrTac]

I'm pretty sure that the DPT part of the E-DPT actually stands for Dynamic Performance Trigger, and the E part just disquinshes it as a polymer variant...just guessing...

[@oneblood100]

@@DrTacwhat I just posted above is the exact message copy and pasted from walther . I just bought the pro e and am pretty upset to find that out. Email them like I did and they’ll tell you.

[@DrTac]

@@oneblood100 I hear what you’re saying…but check out Walther’s actual specs listed on the right hand side of their website: waltherarms.com/firearms/pdp/pdp-pro-e-4-5 Next to Trigger it actually says E-Dynamic Performance!! (Well, minus the exclamation marks)…Not E-DPT, but literally spells it out all the way, so there should be no ambiguity.

[@Slayereyez]

I do understand why they keep explaining the pdp platform I've ran a minimum of 25k though 4.5' pdp with not a single malfunction including failure to feed, stovepipe, squib ect. It's ran everything from home defense to the cheapest mass reloads it eats everything.

[@dimarcusa1]

Good video buddy. I enjoyed it.

[@DrTac]

Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@richardh418]

I'll wait for the ported versions to come out.

[@DrTac]

It’s out!!

[@daveaz9962]

@@DrTac Does the PDP Pro E come with a ported or comped barrel? I really liked everything about that pistol except that it didn’t appeared to be ported. Searching for my first purchase.

[@DrTac]

@@daveaz9962 no, my mistake. The new Pro X is not ported, but it’s comped.

[@daveaz9962]

@@DrTac I think I am going to go with the PDP Pro E. From what I’ve learned so far is that comps get dirtier faster and therefore less reliable for home defense. If I order from Walther can I have them upgrade the trigger and sights? Wondering if I should wait for the PDP Professional to come available. Thanks for your video.

[@daveaz9962]

@@DrTac Is the PDP Pro X the same as the PDP Pro E except that the Pro X has a comp?

[@Redz615]

Good morning just scrolling through 2a content and seen this , and realized some how I was unsubscribed. Happy to find you again 💪🏽👍🏽

[@DrTac]

Welcome Back!!

[@logicsoundinc]

I've heard that KZbin has been doing that to some firearm-content channels

[@somethingtactical]

Trigger snobs like me need to see the reset. That's the most important on a good trigger. Just a suggestion.

[@DrTac]

I am so sorry, I usually spend significant time showing the reset...Next time, brother.

[@Shenmue06]

The pro e has the same exact trigger as the regular pdp but it has a polymer flat faced trigger. The pro e does not have the dynamic trigger kit that's in the regular pro. Walther didn't make the pro that we asked for. People wanted a compact with the real dynamic trigger, with a regular barrel, with a magwell, with regular magazine's without the gigantic baseplates and a set of night sights. They released the version that we all want but they're forcing people to buy an expensive optic that comes with it. I wish that these companies would start listening to their customers instead of attempting to save a dollar around every corner. Most of these companies have been disappointing me lately. CZ still hasn't released their new p10c that was supposed to release months ago, canik won't give us regular optics cuts, Smith&Wesson is releasing comp versions of the 2.0 instead of releasing a 3.0, springfield hasn't released a compact echelon and will probably take years to release a 10mm version. It's disappointment after disappointment 😒 lol. I'm done getting excited about new products because these manufacturers want to give tiny upgrades to keep people buying the next version instead of giving us what we want from the very beginning. I'm not playing their little games. I'll just do what I've always done and upgrade it properly myself. Instead of buying the pro e just buy the regular version, throw in the real dynamic trigger and buy a good carry magwell. If you do it yourself you'll have a nicer carry option for only a little extra money. You obviously can't carry the compact pro e without printing with those gigantic baseplates. You might as well not even buy a compact if you're going to use those baseplates because it makes it larger than a full size.

[@DrTac]

Everything I have heard and read from Walther states that the PDP Pro E trigger is a full fledged Dynamic Performance Trigger. The only thing making the E’s trigger unique is that it is made of a polymer, rather than aluminum. Please let me know where you are getting your information, so I can look further into the matter. I want to make sure that I am reporting accurately. Thank you for your comment, we’ll get to the bottom of this 😎.

[@oneblood100]

On the website it states it has a polymer dpt trigger . Where are you getting that it as a normal pdp trigger ?

[@Shenmue06]

@oneblood100 When it first released I seen it on multiple websites and people were saying it on reddit. Even if I'm wrong it's ridiculous that they went with polymer magazine baseplates and trigger shoe. After you buy the pro e you have to immediately replace the guide rod/recoil spring which is probably around $100, you have to replace the plastic sights which is around $100 so it ends up being around $900 dollars after you buy everything that you need. The regular pro comes with a $75 aluminum trigger shoe, the metal baseplates are probably worth $40 a peace, the threaded barrel is probably $50 dollars more expensive so the pro-e should have been at least $200 dollars cheaper than the regular pro. Instead of simply changing the barrel and selling it for the same price as the pro they decided to cheap out and rip people off. Other companies except for glock are giving their customers night sights or even metal suppressor sights. You could probably buy the m&p online for $500, throw in the polymer apex trigger kit for $125 and get a magwell for $80 which comes out to $705. With the pro-e it's $700 and $100 for the guide rod and another $100 to get quality sights so it ends up being around $900! The pro-e isn't $200 dollars better than that m&p!! No one should support a company that cheaps out like that. The new m&p comp is only $700 dollars and comes with a port, an enhanced custom slide, good sights and a decent trigger. The pdp slide is ridiculously thicker than the other options which makes it more difficult to hide as a ccw. The grip is longer than a m&p or glock19 which makes it more difficult to carry. There's lots of negatives to the pdp pro-e. The only thing that the pdp offers over the competition is a good factory trigger but is that trigger worth all of those issues. If you buy the m&p and an apex trigger kit you'll have a nicer ccw compared to the pro-e in basically every way. You can choose your trigger weight with the m&p apex trigger kit which makes it super nice! I like my trigger weight being around 4.5 pounds for ccw not 3.5. In my opinion 3.5 is way too light because by the time you break it in it'll probably drop down to 3 pounds which can be dangerous if you appendix carry. With the m&p you could have a 3 pound trigger and even add an external safety for appendix carry which makes it much safer. I would never feel safe with 3 pounds without a safety for appendix carry. Yeah if you keep your finger off the trigger it shouldn't go off but when you're practicing and drawing quickly bad things can happen on accident. Your shirt, belt or pants could press against that light trigger. That's my personal opinion on the pro-e .. People are free to make their own decisions.

[@Shenmue06]

@DrTac I seen it on multiple websites when it first released and people were saying it on reddit. It's possible that they didn't know what they're talking about. When the m&p comp first released Smith&Wesson didn't have the performance center trigger on their website and their customer service told me that it doesn't have the performance center trigger so misinformation often happens when a new product releases. Hopefully I'm wrong because I want it to have the enhanced trigger. I still think that it's ridiculous that the trigger shoe is polymer. Walthers customers wanted the same exact pro but without the threaded barrel and gigantic magazine baseplates. Having a compact is pointless with those gigantic baseplates because it makes the grip longer than a full size. We wanted the pdp professional without the acro optic not the cheaply designed pro-e. Walther decided to cheap out and not give us what we wanted. The pdp professional came with good sights and the right magazine baseplates for carry. They wanted their customers to spend extra money on magazines and sights which is unacceptable. The greed of these companies is ridiculous. I wish people refused to buy the pro-e and demanded the version that we wanted. The pdp professional without the acro optic would have been nearly perfect after changing the guide rod. That's my personal opinion.

[@oneblood100]

@@Shenmue06 you make good points, can’t argue with that .

[@crabbyturtle1594]

Wow, a MD firearms channel! Do I get a discount if I tell Guntry you sent me?

[@DrTac]

Tell 'em DoctorTactical sent you and see what happens!!😎

[@marklower007]

A dongle dingus🤣🤣

[@goobasippay938]

I think walther is getting the measurements from the middle of the trigger

[@DrTac]

I believe you are correct.

[@ksogua]

How are you comparing a 2011 to a striker fire. Different league dude.

[@DrTac]

Yeah, that was kind of my point…

[@arta901]

Start wach from 4:00.

[@DrTac]

Good advice😎

[@LackLusterMedia]

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[@ThomasSimmons-j9l]

Dingus 😂

[@coach-]

do you not know how to use google?

[@DrTac]

Were you able to find other KZbin videos comparing the PDP Pro SD and the PDP Pro E, that predates my video? Please let me know.

[@Bullfighter6262]

Are you seriously comparing a 900 dollar gun to a 5000 dollar gun. Come on that is absolutely ridiculous.

[@DrTac]

…and that was exactly my point…

[@Bullets4TheDevil]

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[@AntoinetteSusie-r3m]

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[@CitizenCarrier]

I absolutely love my regular Full Size 5 inch PDP’s. Both are the 2.0 optic cut version. One thing I want to say about checking the trigger pull weights. As some may or may not know, there is more to the feel of a trigger than just the weight. For a striker gun, the PDP’s are definitely toward the top of the food chain. Even though they are just the normal curved PDT triggers. Still….phenominal feeling triggers. But I have a Canik TP9 Elite Combat and the trigger weight is exactly the same as my Walther’s. Very low 3 pound pull range. But the Canik feels just slightly better to me because it is an aluminum, flat faced trigger and for whatever reason, the wall is more solid with zero movement until the break. Very crisp! It has that “glass rod” break and the reset is the shortest I’ve felt on a striker fired gun. But again, the PDP’s overall…my favorite striker guns I own.

[@DrTac]

I completely agree. Here, I had the opportunity to compare two Dynamic Performance Triggers side by side, with the ONLY difference being that one was polymer while the other was aluminum…and there was an ever-so-slight perceptible difference, clearly favoring the metallic trigger. I am chalking it up to the feel of sharper harder line angles and the over-all firmness that metal provides. Thank you for your observations and comment.

[@CitizenCarrier]

@@DrTac I saw that. How you showed the difference in feel between the polymer and metal trigger. That’s what reminded me of the difference between my PDP and my Canik. Like you said also, maybe, just maybe the polymer has a little flex in it. Very good and thorough video!