Walther PDP Spring Selection for ZR Tactical Stainless Guide Rod

Quick explanation about which spring to use when upgrading your PDP or PPQ with our aftermarket stainless guide rod.
Springs depend on the configuration of the firearm and what type of ammo you're using.
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[@willieb5911]

Thanks for explaining the PDP-F series spring weight. I just ordered one and then wondered if I should have selected a 15 lb spring instead of the 17 lb one I ordered. I then looked up this video and felt better knowing 17 lb is best for that model. You guys do a great job explaining in detail stuff like this about your products. It helps is because you answer the questions gun guys would ask

[@OBZ74]

Got the 15LBS guide rod from ZR tactical and I couldn’t be more happier with it! Huge difference between their SS and the OEM plastic guide rod!❤

[@Shadow__133]

I got the 17 and didn't notice any difference, aside from some spring squeak now, including Mantis data analysis. Maybe they'll exchange for a 15?

[@JawnThicc]

I was running the 15lb captured rod in my PDP Pro and it was flawless for 2000+ rounds. I am currently running the brass guide rod with 13lb spring and it has also been flawless with over 1000 rounds of 147 grain at a 138 power factor. I would highly recommend these products.

[@FirearmsNFishing]

Just ordered the brass rod and 13 and 15lb springs, are you still running with no issues on your 13lb?

[@PeteRock1]

What kinda of PDP is the second one he’s showing…. It has a dark brown brushed finish …. Looks cool.

[@jasonfox1532]

I ordered mine with the 13lb spring for my PDP Pro compact but when I installed it the slide would slide out of battery with very little pressure so I took the factory spring off the pos factory guide rod put it on the steel one and it's running like a champ

[@robertkwiatkoski1292]

Why not the 17lb in the 4" f series? Would love to help my girl reduce some "flip" in our pdp-f 4" I'm confused but paying attention. Thank you!

[@keenanschouten2582]

Depends on the internal ballistics, not just the spring weight. The heavier the ammo the lower the recoil and also the heavier the ammo the longer the dwell time. The longer the dwell time the greater the pressure. The greater the pressure the heavier the spring will need to be.

[@Marchcuz556]

I’m running the 15Ibs spring with the PMM Comp and I’m stove piping and the slide is not locking back on the last round??

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Could be grip, ammo or needing a 17lb. Most people run 15 in those runs and it works great

[@Marchcuz556]

I was running 124gr Blazers

[@firefly0203]

Just bought the Pro E. 15# captured or un with your guid rod?

[@davewhaley6917]

He just ran through some information without really answering any questions. Why should we replace the factory spring with this company’s springs? If we shoot all bullet weights and pressures, which is the one to use? Captured vs non captured and does it really matter?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Maybe you missed it. The captured and uncaptured do the same thing. One is just easier to change spring rates. If you’re not looking for any change in function or tune the gun, leave the factory parts in.

[@czgunner]

Do you guys offer a military discount?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Yes

[@jdouguspsa]

love the 15lb been running it for competition and only today with new federal 147 gr flat nose, did i run into issues. i think the overall length and the flat nose top was just a little too much for the 15lb to slam back into battery. 18lb stock spring fed em fine. im waiting to get a 17lb spring in to see if it will do the trick and give me a better feel. does that 1lb difference compare similar to the 15lb?

[@graylonperson9012]

good question.. I ordered the 17 lb spring just to take all the ammo

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

Walther cheaped out with the plastic spring spacer on the 4.5 and 5 inch pdp. Can you guys make a steel spacer?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

No the extra weight would be bad

[@xm3ntal620]

What would you recommend for one with PMM Compensator?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Not sure about their comp. Either 13 or 15. Depends on how efficient it is. Ours works best with 13

[@jimmyavery867]

How much is the 15lb spring for pdp 4inch compact

[@WithTheBears]

What is that optic???

[@CaffeineFreak13]

So my question is, wouldnt a heavier spring slow down the slide reducing the recoil? Ive always been a little confused about that.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

It creates a larger impulse with the higher static load. It then returns to battery really hard causing a second impulse.

[@CaffeineFreak13]

@@zrtacticalsolutions thank you. I kinda had an idea about that, i just didnt know if it would still return as hard since it moved slower in the first place

[@graylonperson9012]

does the 17 soften some of the recoil? or is it just to replace the plastic guide rod from the factory?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

It will. It's closer to the OEM spec but allows complete reliability suppressed and with +P ammo

[@compositetiger]

What do you recommend for the Walther PDP Pro 5.1 inch? This is for suppressed shooting of subsonic loads.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

17

[@mmafanatic-tz5or]

What would you recommend for 124 grain fmj and hollow point? Maybe 124 +p? No comp. Would 15lbs spring work?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

+p? 17. 15 absolute minimum. 17 is likely safer

[@mmafanatic-tz5or]

@@zrtacticalsolutions the 17 lb spring is not going to make a difference in recoil correct? Well that sucks. I just ordered the 15 lb and it says it's been shipped.

[@Shadow__133]

@@mmafanatic-tz5or17 did not make any difference for me. Go with the 15 Id say.

[@dodgefreak8797]

Does spring rate affect reliability when running suppressed? Do you have a recommendation on what spring rate should be used to do so? Thanks

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Needs to be a 15 or 17lb for suppressed use

[@dodgefreak8797]

@@zrtacticalsolutions on thank you!

[@michaelhope3875]

I have the pdp pro 5.1 full size.. I plan on shooting 147gr and 124gr. Would you recommend I keep the factory to handle all that pressure? I also do have a comp installed, thanks brother.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

147 is low pressure. 17 to be safe but most people run 15

[@christhompson1811]

What is best for a comp on a sd 5.0

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Depends on what comp

[@OBZ74]

Which spring would you recommend for PDP 4” compact PRO SD with the threaded barrel? 13 or 15? I am using 124 grain only…

[@byronbranch4645]

15

[@bigboots6114]

i use 17 with the pdp pro sd

[@nickf2170]

I have a PPQ paddle version mag release, in .40 cal. It stove pipes and fails to feed, way too much. I usually shoot hotter underwood ammo. Before I contact Walther, would a different spring make any improvement with this issue? Thanks.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

We haven't developed any information on spring rates for the 40. The OEM spring is 18.6 for the 9mm so It may be the green, 22lb spring for the 40

[@nickf2170]

@@zrtacticalsolutions Thank you for the info and the reply.

[@michaelheinecke2937]

Wanting a captured ss guide rod for a pro sd compact. Shooting mainly 115 grain range and 124 grain nato, but will also shoot 100-200 critical duty 135 grain +p a year. What would be your recommendation?

[@graylonperson9012]

great question... I went with the 17 lb guide rod

[@WettDoggTV]

Its so crazy how much ive been researching this the last 2 weeks and getting completely conflicting information.. So if i go from an 18 pound recoil spring weight to a 16 pound that will decrease recoil? Because i was told u go up in weight to reduce recoil.. im having a hard time understanding.. I really want to find a way to reduce recoil so my wife will feel more comfortable shooting at the range with me.. She said my PDP kicks too hard for her and she wants a different gun.. Well if i can reduce recoil by changing the recoil spring, then id be willing to make that change.. Only problem is im getting conflicting information.. Can anyone help?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Listen to the videos we have explaining it. It has to be matched to your ammo. 15lb is best for most people but it won’t overcome improper grip. 18lb is over what’s needed for standard power 9mm. Increasing will only increase the impulse. It’s a mass damper system.

[@WettDoggTV]

@@zrtacticalsolutions I mostly use 115 grain blazer.. at this moment I really don't own anything else.. Thanks for your feedback.. im going to try a 15 LB and see if that helps

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

15

[@jzx100jlp4]

Did it help? ​@@WettDoggTV

[@buhtcheeks]

11lb, gen 4 glock 17 stainless spring...no issues

[@conceptchannel1112]

Go away, fanboy.................................... We are talking about guns, of this Century......

[@buhtcheeks]

@@conceptchannel1112 whaaaattt, fan boy, how creative. Everybody's an expert, I've been deal'n with guns since the 70's and always learn new shit daily, did I mistakenly make a false statement about a gun I own and operate pretty much daily. Ohhh, you think every polymer handgun is unique and parts aren't interchangeable. No wonder why they want to take people's guns away 🙄...

[@mc4056]

What about 147gr 9mm supressed.

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

15 or 17

[@DadofThunder]

The Polymer guide rod on my 3.5” F-Series is starting to chip away. How does the ZR 17Ib recoil spring compare to the OEM spring when it comes to racking the slide back? Does it make it heavier?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

It's lighter than the factory poundage.

[@DadofThunder]

Thanks, I’m not looking to make it lighter, or Gucci. Just looking for a replacement that feels the same as the Walther recoil spring. Will order one. Hopefully the USPS doesn’t lose it.

[@DryLipJohn]

Sounds look you should just order Walthers tungsten spring if you’re not looking to go lighter.

[@2aisabsoluteTim]

​​​@@zrtacticalsolutions?? I got an email back from your customer service dept. I asked what lb should I put in the PDP F and was told 17lb You stated the 15lb Also most of my self defense ammo is 124 and 147 grain plus P will this be an issue. Of course I'll be training with the gun at the range. So what's your suggestion for the PDP F which I'll be shooting 124 to 147 +p and then range ammo is 115 124 147 not +p

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@DryLipJohn if you’re shoring +P then go 17.

[@zr2overlander323]

What is your recommend on guide rod spring when running a comp on a pdp pro sd compact? 15#? Thanks and take care

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

All bets are off. Hard to say. Depends on comp brand, ammo, etc. you will have to tune in based on that. No canned solution with comps

[@boomee78]

What you you suggest for actuall concealed carry 124 or 147 federal hst. Compact 5 inch and full size 4.5 inch

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@boomee78 15

[@royhooker1561]

When I run a wolf guide rod and wolf, 15 pound spring, it doesn’t wanna stay in battery when pointing it directly in the air like the slide doesn’t go back in the battery do I have to change or need to change the striker spring as well to help it get back in battery how do I fix this?

[@royhooker1561]

Guess what I’m saying is when I point the gun directly in the air at 12 o’clock and racket the slide doesn’t wanna go back into battery hundred percent it’s like 956% back in battery

[@Chief1911]

What spring do you recommend for a FS Pro with a PMM comp using 124gr NATO and 124gr +P only? 15/17?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Stick with the factory assembly if you're shooting +P all the time.

[@Chief1911]

@@zrtacticalsolutions thank you for the reply. The same is correct for the Compact PDP pro, right?

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

@@Chief1911 yes. If you’re shooting +P, defer to mfg specs

[@Chief1911]

@@zrtacticalsolutions Thank you, does the compensator call for your 15 pound spring if I start to shoot standard loadings?

[@larrybruns5051]

Well, when my guide rod breaks, I’ll try one of those theirs.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

He’s trying to sell his guide rods and springs. I get it. Go capitalism! But I love how he threw the factory guide rod and spring over his shoulder like it’s garbage. I’ve had my PDP now for going on two years and just passed 5500 rounds and the thing still runs like a champ with the factory Spring and guide rod. So, there’s that. People complaining about “muzzle flip“ from a 9 mm pistol should learn to work on their grip before they worry about a new spring. Fundamentals first.

[@somethingtactical]

Try a 13lb or 11lb spring and go back to your statement. Pistols are oversprung to handle all variety of ammo. Once you learn to dial it in you see what the conversation is about. He is selling them because it works. No not necessary but shots on targets will amaze you with less effort

[@liamroxas5386]

I’m here because my factory polymer guide rod already cracked after 2 range trips. I put 200ish rounds through it and noticed the crack when I was cleaning the gun.

[@derfnyc1]

I agree 100 percent. I learned with my first pistol s&w SD 9 I changed guide rod and trigger, sights. And still couldn't hit crap 2 feet away. I listened to all these people and wasted money when all I had to do is train with what I had. All my guns a factory except for sights I like night sights.

[@jackg.2780]

I have their 15 lbs captured guide rod, works perfectly. To me it shoots even better staying on target. Plastic is used by the manufacturer to lighten the weight of the pistol. Definitely not for long term.

[@2swole4u74]

Fun fact I can shoot my cheapest gun just like my most expensive one. 🙃 Its all in the grip one mod you can't buy " shooter mod " ..

[@nonetheless01]

Changing that spring Is not super complicated .

[@zrtacticalsolutions]

Agreed