Free Idle Cell To Civilization Simulator - Evolve

[@Periapsys]

Your happy cactus person on the thumbnail was very charming and I liked them a lot.

[@wanderbots]

I had a lot of fun drawing it, and I'm glad you all seem to appreciate it!

[@YannickEgges]

a tip for if you keep playing: you can craft the foundry resources yourself by clicking the +1, +5 or +A buttons on the left

[@Frizz-c8c]

57:07 "Each farmer generates 2.99 food per second. Farmers in excess of 17 produce 1.25 food per second"

[@lkeasbey1]

That last comment about the game getting updates and getting better over time makes me think of an incremental incremental game; an incremental game where you slowly unlock incremental game updates incrementally. I'm not sure how that would be different from just a deeper layered incremental game, but I think it's interesting. You mention fairly often that you should make an incremental game. You could release a simple incremental game, then provide semi-regular updates to incrementally scale the complexity of the end game.

[@nahtanahtan]

There is a small idle game based that idea! I don't think I can post the link to the game here, but it's called "Version Control", it should be easily found on google.

[@MechagirlSachiko]

Incrementally

[@Cakepotato]

This... This is how most of these games work, this particular game was being updated very regularly for a couple of years with more layers of content to get to where it is now. And Realm Grinder which wander has mentioned in a couple of previous games, oh boy does it have all the player agency he's looking for in these games, but I don't believe he's progressed far enough to see it, as for new people that'd probably be a week of playing idly.

[@TajinQ]

I'm getting Junji Ito "Uzumaki" vibes from this comment, and I don't know if I like or if it's scaring me

[@Frizz-c8c]

The star on Unemployed means it is default profession. You click pick Farmer to set it as the default

[@freakycrafter2059]

Oooooh... welp, you sure are in for a ride if you keep playing this game, its got a ton of content!

[@banaman7746]

been playing it since his last time covering it... definitely a lot of content, but you do repeat the same steps for maximum progress a lot.

[@NecronomiConCarne]

I've been playing Evolve since your last video and still love it, thanks for that !

[@MsVilecat]

You might be interested in CivIdle, a game that ironically doesn't hit the idle aspect until way later compared to this one. It's free and on Steam, and it has an optional chat integrated that, at the time of my last session, was super helpful in learning about the more intricate parts of the game.

[@MirageGSM]

Not sure if you realized while editing, but you're supposed to be able to click-craft Plywood and Bricks. The Message Log had an info to that end. That should remove some bottlenecks.

[@Frizz-c8c]

Btw it was inspired by Kittens Game and then went into it's own direction.

[@Mattrellen86]

Someone mentioned this was here on this game's discord, and that comment at 5:00 has me smiling for reasons a new player won't discover for a very very long time. Stick with this one, it's a good game. And it is still getting updated, with an quite active little community, and so much to discover as you keep doing more prestiges. And, really, there is a very very wide variety in ways that the game can be tackled as you enter into the mid game. Be warned, it is a long one, even by idle game standards. Heck, the third prestige tier is really where most people would say the game starts in earnest, with the leadup to it being more like the tutorial. This isn't a game that stops throwing new stuff at you after a week or even a month of playing.

[@paulvanpraag]

I totally get your point about incremental games and how you want the genre to progress, but this one is truly an old school idle game and it is one of the better ones in it's niche. Evolve is a couple of years long to complete. I've even switched over to using an automation program so I only control changing the settings and programming depending on which achievements and goals I'm going for since it's basically a matter of looping prestiges at my stage.

[@thisGuy481]

I am glad you like incrementals as much as I do lol, I feel like I have brain rot sometimes with how much I like them.

[@cyrosgold7]

There is an odd bit of balance when it comes to these games. So many have multiple branches of progression, but you typically end up going down each at an equal pace without the ability to choose just one or two paths to specialize in. This is tied into the way costs scale as you go down each path, getting more expensive for that path alone. I think one way to circumvent this is to reduce the cost scaling but spread it across all paths. So if you get something on Path A, the next thing on both A and B(and all other paths) get slightly more expensive. This could allow you to dive deep into a path or two but make it harder to really branch out. You can add a cap to the progression so that no matter how long you wait, or how many resources you have, you can't get everything, but you can include increases to the cap as side upgrades for doing a balanced path build, a perk for spreading yourself out. Like a tracker off to the side that is a checklist of X unlocks in Y paths for additional progress cap. You can also add further progression cap through Meta progress. The cap should be able to be increased just enough that, by endgame in a game with 4-6 progression paths, you can fully traverse one initial path to it's end if you specialize, with a few extra to dabble in one or more other paths. This would be, roughly, about 1/3 of the total potential path unlocks, or 1/2 of each path if spread out for the side cap increases. This would lean into diverse play styles, long term playability, and build theory crafting. The other thing this does is ensure there is a proper end game goal, not just unlock everything and prestige ad nauseam. one or more goals to achieve or task to complete that may be selectable or even random and would push you towards certain paths.

[@PadaV4]

This game is super glacial in later stages. I prestiged once and that took me a LONG time(i think it was somewhere around a month), and I feel like it would take at best many many months and at worst years to beat this game fully.

[@Sneaky_proto]

summary of the base benefits for all species types (plant, fungi, animal) for when you eventually prestige: plants don't use stone, its auto produced as amber, fungi don't collect food, they turn lumber into food with a unique building, animals need to collect lumber, stone, and food, but they get much more useful benefits for after the early game has started

[@jacobbetancourt5602]

nice! now play antimatter dimensions. (what's wrong with my text box rn, something with one of my extensions? gotta be)

[@PvtCrit]

I haven't touched evolve in months but it's got a lot of neat things to discover, including a form of meta progression, heh. I hope you end up enjoying it

[@TreguardD]

I am vaguely working on a something that is essentially going to be a turn based incremental. If anyone remembers the WoW Garrison - think of a game centered around that as turn based. 1: Send your adventurers to explore regions. 2: Adventurers find resources, kill monsters, find new regions, etc 3: Plow resources into your base. Repeat

[@Multi1]

I propose more incremental games should have impending threats. Dangers that come after a period of time that could cause the player to die and have to start over. This will encourage the player to have a game plan even if improvised to try to progress as possible. Instead of the player being able to fool around all the time with effectively little purpose. That is what I want for all incremental games.

[@MechagirlSachiko]

Die and start over? Hahaha no. All that effort down the drain because you screwed up in some way would detract from playing. Threats that hinder your progress if not dealt with but let you continue would be better.

[@Multi1]

@@MechagirlSachiko How about if you die, you get sent back a substantial amount of time, maybe even back to a checkpoint?

[@tosmornHOF4748]

Lord if you dont fucking purchase the technology upgrades to help you progress faster i am gonna lose my mind if you keep saying youre locked behind resource gen… dude. Scale the tech….

[@light18pl]

This is the guilty pleasure I engage in on slow workdays.

[@Sneaky_proto]

the only real diplomatic path I'm aware of is way later in like the space age but other than that the only benefit for good opinion is they won't attack back, once you have a good army (or have spent the last 3 hours reducing their army to nothing via spies) there is no point in not systematically bullying them for resources

[@blazenyah4876]

I've been playing this broadly since you showed it, I stopped for a few months and went back to it

[@ianwilliamson5]

Been playing this game for small batches over a year, all i can say is eventually DYSON SPHERE

[@blacklazard2081]

Yeah... this one is great... playing it for half a year now and still find new races and things inside...

[@successfulgeek]

Being forced to use lumber for buildings as plant people seems a bit messed up...

[@Frizz-c8c]

Humans did use animal bones for tools, and still use furr for clothes

[@igorzai9831]

Some species don't have lumber, other don't have rock/or changed to something, don't wanna spoiler without asking, but there more ways. And if we talk about mushrooms and some other plants irl, they also need tree/wood/old or dead plant to continue his being.

[@successfulgeek]

@Frizz-c8c but rarely has there been a building made primarily of bones.

[@PadaV4]

Humans eat or otherwise use other animal bodies. Why wouldn't plant people be fine with using other plants?

[@paulvanpraag]

Cactus people still use lumber. The literal tree people don't use lumber. Think of it like how humans are happy to eat other mammals.

[@aceazzermeen4857]

you can never have enough barracks and realm grinder also still gets updates

[@rpesel]

If you are a plant person, is every farming becomes idle farming?

[@megadeth116]

I just noticed that hearing you talk is the best thing about incremental games and thats why when I play them I get bored more easily

[@PadaV4]

Well I would say its the IDLE incremental games which are boring. Like "To the core" was fun because while it was very incremental, its not idle.

[@megadeth116]

@@PadaV4 I commented before the video started and didnt know it was idle. Im less interested in idle games but they can also be fun. What I wrote is what I meant and that includes non-idle incremental games. Not to say they are boring, but they are less boring when Wander talks over it.

[@Frizz-c8c]

What language might you write an incrimental game in?

[@derGhebbet]

"Investing is gonna cost a shit ton" Always does.🤷‍♀

[@Frizz-c8c]

I think farmers beyond number of farms are weaker so building more farms is usefull for food

[@karlfrogley1977]

This reminds me of a incremental game I played called “theory of magic” I think

[@GooberFishNate]

Exactly my thoughts when I saw the title screen

[@BadgerBishop]

I know you don't like endorsing programs like auto-clickers, so I won't name anything but are you still using the same one from several years ago?

[@wanderbots]

Op auto clicker. Yeah.

[@rodon265]

"I think it's still getting updates" just look at the top right corner thoughout the video.

[@thatrandomguy1140]

My eyes 6:19

[@ilovehumongoushonkers]

Gamies

[@Knuhben]

BlueSky eh... 🤨