Wanna Buy Some Meat? - Off Topic

[@grackahawk3659]

Fredo quickly mentioning how making characters with his skin colour felt off to him actually really got to me. Never really thought about that before. That sucks.

[@owlandafeather]

2:26:00 This did not age well.

[@LordMooshroom]

At least it wasn't Larry

[@krablord]

@@LordMooshroom Shifty Larry somehow proving himself to be the best of all, instead devoting all his free time to editing 9 player Among Us LPs for the fans.

[@matthewdawson3979]

@@Quino2 Same

[@dominicwilliamson7912]

Uh oh

[@TheCHIEFMONGO]

Lmao just listened to the podcast on Spotify and was like FUUUUUCK

[@saltyunion278]

2:26:00 - OOOOOOOOF

[@NeonOwlLatch]

Well, we know who it is now. a sad day.

[@Levi-pd8oe]

and it wasn't larry

[@robertmulligan901]

Was bout to comment on this about what he said

[@lianjavier7827]

pro tip: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies lately.

[@byronkelvin912]

@Lian Javier Yup, I've been using Flixzone for since november myself :)

[@-JackER]

2:26:00 it was ryan after all

[@utachan9318]

,,,yeah,,,

[@chaseteel251]

I love how excited Michael is about being a dad

[@Jimbo386000]

Right? It’s the most wholesome thing.

[@pachupac]

everyone here is commenting on 2:26:00 but even before that at 2:19:27 the prophecies continue.

[@snivelill4457]

Honestly, I feel like every video they have is going to have one of these "Oh my god" moments I felt when I checked this.

[@TheBigGavino]

Also Hearing Michael and Lindsay talk about Iris it jus made me smilee

[@sammieboo1043]

DatAsianGuy when was this

[@TheBigGavino]

like through out the whole podcast

[@gigawatt80]

1:30:09 is when they talk bout Iris talking

[@TheBigGavino]

Coming in clutch with the time stamps

[@thetrueteebs1338]

I'm religious. Specifically Christian. And I have to say. My opinion has not changed of Achievement Hunter. I was taught to love and accept people. My church has multiple gay people and a couple trans people. I don't treat them different. I actually have helped one of the trans people move twice. Yeah, you don't have to believe in what I believe. I'd like you to, but you don't have to. Moses also took place in the old testament. The new testament and the new covenant teaches love. There are churches that fail to see and practice that. We aren't all jerks. I personally don't always go around and say "oh I'm a Christian and blah blah blah" because it tends to turn people off. I just want people to be Happy. I'm not always perfect or always happy. Doesn't mean I can't love others. All that to say, Achievement Hunter can have there opinions. And while it sucks they may not end up in the afterlife my religion depicts, I will not hate them for their choice. I'll keep watching and supporting them for all the good they do like their charity livestreams. That's all. Please have a lovely day and I sincerely apologise if I have offended anyone.

[@thetrueteebs1338]

Jackjohnson15 thanks. I appreciate that. Just trying to spread the positivity

[@neekota]

Tyler Beals, you're the man. I completely second what Jackjohnson15 said, and I really want to empathise how great of a feeling I get when I see and talk to people like you. I don't personally believe in God, but I believe in how much good religion can achieve. For billions of people, religion is a pillar, something that helps carry the weight of responsibilities, grief, or anything you need. Religion is always personal and is never the same for two people. Naturally, there are dark sides of religion, there has always been and will probably always be, but to the many people that say that the world would be a better place without religion, I beg you to consider how many good people, such as Tyler Beals, live with religion. Once again, I'm not religious, I'm agnostic.

[@TD31093]

You're the coolest Christian I've ever encountered on the internet

[@Ziorac]

So about that 'Moses took place in the old testament' thing, I have a legit question about that, as an atheist. So the Bible is the word of god. And that includes the old and the new testament, right? Christians do believe that the old testament stuff actually happened right? Like the Ark and Sodom and such? So.... What happened between the old and the new testament? Cause from my view, the god in the old and the god in the new are like completely different gods in terms of behaviour and what they preach. So did god change his mind? Did he have some sort of revelation and stopped being such a vengeful god (cause old testament god is... yipes)? Or is it just a different god? But if it's a different god, but the Ark and such did happen, then who did that? If there is just one god... It just confuses me....Because Jews and Muslims and Christians worship the same god, but you also don't and it's confusing...

[@Actimus123]

I don't think you are really christian, or religious. I think you do like most people and make your own version of the actual faith you claim to follow, and mold it to suit your lifestyle.

[@Erdnussbuttertoast]

michael and lindsay talking about their child for like half an hour made my day

[@CButtonshaw]

I had to say "Michael shush." because it's talking me more into having a kid. Wife/me kind-of trying atm but trying to keep from being baby-crazy like her lol.

[@DINGDONGDANIEL3]

CButtonshaw if you're gonna end up having one anyway, I think it'd be better to be baby crazy than not!! Lol

[@aster_sunless]

Happy Father's day Geoff and Michael.

[@tristankeith5022]

Ryan is a father too

[@hornetf18]

Tristan Keith He wasn’t on.

[@tristankeith5022]

Hornet F18 Still a dad though,

[@CSqu4r3d]

You guys were right about Fred Rogers. He wasn't trying to suppress the actor's sexuality out of hate or bigotry. The actor said, "The Bible Belt people really, as much as they talk about love and the life of Christ, they don’t love gay people. And I know that. I knew it. So I understood that if a gay person was on television, they were not going to watch that program. They were going to do everything they could to shut it down. Had I been an openly gay person on “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood,” that would have been the end of the program before it began[...]"

[@beththebubbly69]

"youve never watched a movie and been like 'ugh, a man and a woman.'." Michael, speaking what's on all the gays minds bc tbh every damn time I watch a movie

[@rosacetus]

of everything they talked about the only thing i have a problem with is Geoff calling The Elder Scrolls 6 "Skyrim 6"

[@dmnorth3275]

this is the most underrated comment ever

[@North862]

To be fair....it probably would be the 6th made Skyrim if it was a new Skyrim.

[@beymaster15963]

Michael talking about iris is one of the few things that gives me hope in humanity

[@nicholisling2657]

An Off Topic under three hours? What is this, the RT podcast?

[@ricardothealien]

the one before this was under 3 hours

[@WhyGodby]

and the one before that

[@nicholisling2657]

Phoba Fett 123 was three hours and another one was 12 seconds off from being three hours. But mainly I was joking about how every other podcast is usually nowhere near as long as Off Topic.

[@XxHarounXx]

nicholis ling dont bother explaining it, these kids must be new to rt and dont get it

[@raindrops6435]

Phoba Fett it’s a joke. people usually say it when it’s under 2 hours

[@danielthompson1626]

We need an Alfredo plays Until Dawn for Halloween.

[@forcebear5641]

Daniel Thompson this would be amazing! I'd love to hear Alfredo's commentary and reactions

[@1100MC]

Resident Evil 2 Remake Let's Watch

[@arseniccalibrator6521]

hearing ah talk about gay rep makes me very happy. they're not perfect, but they're coming from the right place and they're trying, and that's all we need. it's nice to hear the support

[@zacharypfeiffer2616]

There is a difference from being authentic and realistic. Battlefield V released a British woman with a metal arm that is not authentic. The Americans and British did not allow women on the front line. That being said the French, Polish, and Russian had women very active during the war front line.

[@spookie6836]

2:29:11 - "Human Civilization has been PROFOUNDLY more gay than we are right now." the quote i'm going to live my life by.

[@jgossettga]

Kudos to you guys for being willing to speak at length and so honestly about your feelings concerning religion. It's a conversation that doesn't get brought up enough and frankly if you're secure enough in your religion you should be able to listen to someone with an opposing viewpoint.

[@wesleyeberly228]

jgossettga I’m plenty sure of my religion these guys just don’t know what they’re talking about,their knowledge being based off a animated movie doesn’t help

[@BurakkuHishou]

Babitat 7 is right. Their knowledge is minimal but talks about it as though they know enough to bash it.

[@WruceBayne]

It would be great if they were able to listen to those who have an opposing view, but that's not at all what happened. Moreover, they're only comfortable with it because they were talking about Christianity, they would never discuss the abhorrent shit in other religions.

[@jgossettga]

Wruce Bayne it's probably because they're from a country which Christianity is the dominant religion. What would you expect them to say? I'm sure they know even less about Islam. The point is you don't have to know much about any religion in order to disbelieve the outlandish claims of religious text like the Bible. Anyone without bias comes to the same conclusion that these stories are likely entirely false.

[@LancasterResponding]

But their viewpoint basically ended with I hate you because of what you believe in and you’re stupid for believing it.

[@waffleman2211]

I have never understood the "representation" issue in media. I watch stuff, and play stuff, and read stuff to have an experience I can't have in the real world. I want to see a story from the perspective of a woman, or a child, or another culture. Those are way more interesting! I want to escape from reality, not insert myself into an fps.

[@alexanderdumas870]

I think its a great thing to be immersed in a person totally different from you in media, but media companies are more interested in jerking themselves off over how inclusive they are rather than just doing something because it sounds cool, or will be fun, or impactful, etc. I'm positive that there is a huge overlap of people with gripes over the trailers for BFV showing cyborg women with cricket bats and rugby makeup in WWII who love Aliens, or the Rainbow 6 Siege roster, etc. Instead companies put women on the covers because they know that they can deflect all criticism. "Oh, you thought our trailer looked dumb as fuck and is more cringy then when they added dabbing to Call of Duty? You just hate women. Have fun on the wrong side of history."

[@TheBAGman17]

It really depends on the game in RPGs where you're expected to be the character and make choices you would make then limiting my choices or forcing me to say things I don't want to say really takes you out of it. In Persona 5 you're constantly bombarded with options to try and romance the girls but I wanted none of it. on the other hand there was a guy called Mishima who I thought was cute but all the options were of varying degrees of being an asshole to him. it was a minor thing but being constantly told by the game I'm playing wrong was fucking aggravating In any game that doesn't rely on playing as a set protagonist there should be always be as much customizable options as possible not because of some agenda but because that's just good game design.

[@Fangtorn]

Alexander Dumas - I really don't think game companies put women on their covers as a cynical ploy to deflect criticism as sexism. I'm sure _some_ have tried to dismiss legitimate criticism as sexism, but I don't believe it's the pervasive problem in the gaming industry you seem to be implying it is. Most companies make covers they think will sell the most games, and I think their interest in inclusiveness is less about self-gratification and more about adapting to a market that has grown to value and expect that, just like how companies that promote being environmentally friendly aren't just being hippies.

[@Karma-pq9fi]

Fangtorn wait did talk about that what time stamp

[@Blue6erry1995]

Necroing a little, but whatever. Representation is justification. Without representation in media, people (kids especially) who are under-represented are trained to not belong. When you are treated like your subclass doesn't exist, you feel like you don't belong in normal society. This isn't about getting to take the role of someone with whom you more closely identify (but that is a nice possibility too, one that Millie obviously wants to take advantage of and you do not care to), this is about validating people who may not be hetero-normative and empowering those who may feel left out because they never have representation in certain genre. A little representation goes a long way.

[@collinaills5771]

Holy shit, I bet you Jack regrets missing this off topic.

[@wylowward7976]

Collin Aills what do you mean jack showed up at 1:33:16

[@PoleBear0]

This is gonna be a fun comment section

[@chaseteel251]

$10 says they focus on what Lindsay says despite the fact they are all saying the same thing.

[@Nullsparta2]

chase teel yep some comments did that within like the first 30 min of posting

[@johnsorrows8998]

Fred roggers also brought that same gay man up for something and called him a good friend the dude wasnt bashing roggers in the interveiw he was actually talking about how fred helped him live in a biggoted industry and was a close confidant

[@Toneill029]

John Sorrows That's basically what they were saying but it's still a shitty thing that was done and I think Rodgers would agree.

[@jacobferreras5748]

The fact that this is the worst I've ever heard regarding Mr Rogers makes me happy because it just how good this man was that the worst thing I've heard someone say about him is what did to help someone get by even if he didn't like doing it.

[@markmeasinner]

Dude, I love how long they talked about Iris, it’s so sweet how enchanted with her Michael is.

[@abbyholt8850]

Get someone who talks about you the way Michael talks about Iris!

[@Warfrae]

Abby Holt soooo ur dad

[@Wrathalos]

Abby Holt i feel towards my dog, what michael feels towards Iris.

[@Toneill029]

My heart melts to see that, there should be no question that he loves her, she's gonna be spoiled as shit though.

[@wylowward7976]

get somebody who looks at you like lindsay looks at michael talking about iris

[@nathanjames3889]

This went from Off-Topic to Rant-Topic in about 1.5-2 hours. It was amazing 10/10 would rant again

[@hambone.fakenamington]

2:47:28 - Micheal doing an excellent impression of what some of the comments for this video would sound like out loud. You know the ones.

[@woah2woe]

Hambone Fakenamington 😂 Very true. I love their off topics and even if I dont agree or like what they discuss doesn't mean they don't have the "right" or "the OK" to talk about anything/everything. Seeing people telling them its not right to talk about some topics when it rlly doesnt effect their lives profoundly is just funny 😛

[@septumpunch7797]

Medovukha u wanna cry some more little triggered baby lol

[@Karma-pq9fi]

They were talking about assassin creed

[@thetostada1326]

Anytime AH ever mentions their heights and other people's heights in any way I remember how I'd be considered short to all of them but Jeremy

[@mr.ovenbox4941]

My problem with BF was not the girl... it was her prosthetic arm. lol. like... wut???

[@MacKennaTheGoddessofRadiation]

Yang?

[@chelsearenee838]

Comparing Thanos to God is peak comedy. I had tears in my eyes. Michael is hilarious.

[@gaylgeoir6581]

Lindsay and Michael’s stories about Iris are actually the cutest thing??.

[@JJubilations]

/ b r u s c a r / are actually the most boring bits* FTFY.

[@Wrathalos]

/ b r u s c a r / i like hiw happy it makes them to talk about it.

[@matthewcastellanos9103]

This is a question or a statement??.

[@methylphenidate1270]

why??? are you people??? so confused???? all the time????

[@wylowward7976]

Shaun lol where.

[@dmitrilong6954]

Around 240:00 the thing fredo is talking about I usually play closer to my skin tone when i can customize. The reason it looks off is because the features are still Caucasian and so it ends up looking like black face a bit.

[@slasher2042]

13:44 Norman Fetus

[@xavierbatistini9655]

personally, i love it when they get political. achievement hunter is probably one of my favorite groups of people online, and it makes me happy that they have the moonballs to speak their mind. keep it up AH

[@cobrakingofeart]

i think most of the audience (who're complaining) just wishes there was someone at least center-right to balance out the echo chamber.

[@ZODINtheEVIL]

cobrakingofeart probably. The one issue I feel like would help out is if someone more central comes out and admits to it. I honestly like Jeremy is, but just doesn’t want to admit it

[@tylerbrown9822]

cobrakingofeart You’re right I’m a pretty far right leaning person and I get it that people have different views. But I just want to tell them and show them some stuff, not argue, but talk to them and show them a conservative point of view. Maybe they will listen and agree and see that what I say makes sense and maybe they won’t but the least they could do is listen. I just wish I could talk to them about it l.

[@cobrakingofeart]

i too would love to go down there and have a good long sensible political discussion. but after that chigger story and all the other shit i've heard about animals and bugs in texas i wouldn't unless i had a kevlar reinforced biohazard suit with internal temperature control.

[@KlintKaras]

chaoticTaurean _ translation : "this is my echo chamber and I see no problem here. Why don't you want one sided opinions spoken as fact? You guys are weird"

[@Hellvillain74]

Following the podcasts over the months and being able to feel like I'm physically watching Iris grow, gives me life.

[@North862]

Oh my god me too. It feels like we are really apart of their life, like we are actually in the room and just chilling while they walk about wittle iwis

[@cadebitting3654]

“Thanos is a better good guy than God!” - Michael Jones, June 15, 2018

[@T1NKS19]

Loved this episode of the podcast! Also love seeing Lindsay in so many videos lately!!

[@Sam-bj7rs]

NEWS FLASH, THIS IS A PODCAST. PODCASTS ARE A PLATFORM FOR DISCUSSING OPINIONS AND CURRENT EVENTS.

[@africa241]

Except if its Mica. If she does so, than she's both a racist and a sexist.

[@septumpunch7797]

Kay Sabb boo hoo, bitch

[@africa241]

septum punch lol sorry if I triggered you with my comment

[@Matter.offact]

Kay Sabb She was uniformed

[@africa241]

* Talks about personal past experiences that actually happened to her * Snowflakes: "This is misinformation / She's uninformed!" Lol sure. Whatever makes you sleep well at night. Anywho I'm not here to bring back the debate. Just left my two cents on original comment issue, now I'm off. Bye.

[@lordbaconweeb]

4:36 oh my gosh Geoff looks good in those glasses with his beard

[@buildyourowncastle]

How do I like a video more than once? 😊 Thanks for continually being amazing Achievement Hunter. ❤️

[@iRockManKind]

Its not like they ever said people should or shouldnt have guns or have religion. they’re just giving their opinions. just like you all can post your opinions in the comments. people in the comments are the ones telling THEM that they cant say stuff, like who cares. Its not like whatever they say will have any affect on your life at all.

[@hinesvillebass6742]

imagine a world with no religion would be a peaceful place. and not like a sudden no religion but it never existing in the first place

[@Zidzyz]

toast this there's still wars over race, materials, land, and claims over government...

[@hinesvillebass6742]

Zidzyz if theres np religion at all. Theres no teachings of who's better in a sense. So instead we would all look like the middle east fighting and killing each other lol.

[@Zidzyz]

toast this also wrong tho. Philosophers still existed that never believed in god explaining why as humans we are good. The world would still function but no wars is an overstatement.

[@dnsknr]

The whole conversation in the end was amazing. I want to cry. You're amazing, guys.

[@BobaBuddy]

As a Catholic who has taught high school Freshman in religion there are several things I want to state. First, at Catholic school and what I have taught to my students is that the Old Testament is more symbolic than realistic. Second, Original Sin isn’t just, “you exist, now apologize”, Original Sin is just the belief that innately humans will sin and that humans aren’t perfect; we are flawed, we argue, we hate, we fight. We are made in God’s image and loved by Him, but because we have Free Will and can make choices, we can often make mistakes and poor choices (sins). Anyways, if you agree with me or not is up to you, people are entitled to there own beliefs. This comment is just to be informative.

[@BigDippas]

Since they brought up the Chris Hardwick thing ill throw my two cents in. I dont like how we as a society have somehow grown accustomed to tqking drastic measures agaisnt someone who has been accused of wrong doing. People now presume someone is guily until proven innocent, this idea is antithetical to how Americas courts opperate. We have grown used to people being fired for a mere accusation, words with no proof or leg to stand on, on their own. If the court system worked that way most people would be fucking furious. Now dont get me wrong allegations of some wrong doing shouldnt be brushed to the side like they are trash, but neither should a persons innocence. If somene is proven at fault for any allegation then and only then should punishment come their way, otherwise we could very well be throwing punishment at someone who doesnt deserve someone who could have their life ruined by it. Im not defending Chris Hardwick and im not attacking him, because i do not know the truth.

[@youtubeuserssuck3394]

Bro, the American Court system isn't the perfect example of a just system. Many can argue that the innocent until proven guilty idea is the reason why alot of lower courts are so busy and barely have the time and resources to give everyone a legitimately fair trial. The guilty until proven innocent is just a reality of how people function.

[@BigDippas]

Jackjohnson15 you just rephrased what i said, whats your point?

[@BigDippas]

KZbinUsers Suck my whole point is that, that belief is antithetical to idea of american justice. Im chastising people for doing the opposite

[@youtubeuserssuck3394]

And my point is, who cares if it's "antithetical to idea of american justice"? Maybe we need something different.

[@BigDippas]

KZbinUsers Suck so you think its better to assume someones guilt with just an accusation? That is what you are saying right

[@madvoltage3351]

So sad Jeremy called it

[@Dylan-gs9sm]

Just saying the drunker Mikey is the better the podcast

[@kfreienmuth]

Dylan this is the first time seeing someone call Michael, a shortened version of Michael, and me not qweeze. Drunk Michael=Mikey lol

[@maxmattt]

That is why Off Topic #65 is the best episode ever.

[@SomeOfTheJuice]

"She's into girls, move on with your life." I think that sentence describes exactly how I feel about sexuality. When my friend from Kindergarten first came out to my group of friends my freshman year of high school, while some people were bothered by it, I was just like "Huh. Okay. Doesn't change anything about who he is." My best friend told me she was bisexual. I basically told her it didn't make any difference to me. No one has any right to critique someone for things that cannot be changed. It's not like a belief. Even with them talking about Fred Rogers. Reading the Jezebel article Geoff was referencing, Clemmons talks about the fact that Mr. Rogers said: "I want you to know, Franc, that if you’re gay, it doesn’t matter to me at all. Whatever you say and do is fine with me, but if you’re going to be on the show, as an important member of the Neighborhood, you can’t be ‘out’ as gay. People must not know … Many of the wrong people will get the worst idea, and we don’t want them thinking and talking about you like that. If those people put up enough fuss, then I couldn’t have you on the program. It’s not an issue for me. I don’t think you’re less of a person. I don’t think you’re immoral.” Sexuality and gender, in my opinion, is literally like eye color or height. It's a simple attribute a person is given, and, honestly, you're pretty damn petty if you're bothered by what someone else's is.

[@coolflame0]

Sexual attraction to children is a sexual orientation.... therefore I would say I do get to critique them...

[@Zoe-io9eg]

Michael talking about Iris is the cutest fucking thing.

[@Daemascus]

What bothers me about BFV is that there were women who did serve in WW2. Why not use them? Bad ass Russian snipers on the Eastern Front sounds like a good time to me.

[@alexanderdumas870]

No we need women in biker clothes with robo arms and cricket bats, that'll show the sexists that we should be taken seriously edit: btw the character design is cool as fuck, its just way out of place in a battlefield game

[@Toneill029]

Yeah they had women in the last game what's the fucking problem.

[@ethanmagdaleno5332]

Daemascus the part that gets me is in WW2, there were no female soliders in the US army that fought with the infantry. There just weren't. There were female soliders in the OSS and the SOE but they just never fought like that.

[@Toneill029]

Ethan Magdaleno Plenty of badass volunteers like the wasps and nurses, I remember seeing a lot of heroic stories involving women. One Russian lady even bought a tank to avenge her husband. And there was one case of a woman disguising herself as a man and no one knew until she brought it up.

[@ethanmagdaleno5332]

Tim O'Neill yeah but those were all special cases or individual units. I'm talking about the infantry

[@wylowward7976]

at 1:31:25 look at lindsay. she looks at michael talking about iris and she looks so happy. like that’s what you call love my friends. so pure.

[@thealmightymexi]

so someone who has been watching death stranding has some ideas surrounding the babies and everything that seems to follow along logically. Their thought is that because we know the monsters age you by touching you, you carry a clone of yourself that is gestating in case of your imminent death, it's thought that once you die the baby becomes you so that you aren't just dead when you are touched, but it's also thought that a person can only be cloned so many times in the game giving you a limit to the amount of lives you have. The monsters themselves can't seem to see you but can see your footsteps like you see theirs making this almost a horror/psychological thriller about escaping an early grave. My assumption is that you won't resist the woman in the trailer for long and you will begin to help her and her cause, and aside from those things you are essentially the courier from new vegas but in a shittier world.

[@TomixDT]

It's the rain that speeds up aging process. I believe it is called Timefall.

[@thealmightymexi]

no it's shown that the rain does damage but pretty explicitly in the new trailer they show the monster walking and causing foliage to grow in die as it walks.

[@youtubeuserssuck3394]

During the E3 trailer, they show a raindrop touching Norman Reedus's hand and causing the spot to wrinkle. From the limited stuff I heard, TomixDT is right.

[@thealmightymexi]

hmm, maybe i missed that, but the monsters do as well, we see it explicitly in the trailer that the monsters also age people, so maybe the environment will also play into it.

[@corruptVz]

from what i have seen and understand, both age you rapidly, the timefall rain is just less devastating

[@dlira6242]

The discussion in the last third of this podcast was incredible. Michael and Geoff and Lindsay hit the nail on the head over and over and over again about prejudice and how society deals with it. Y'all are great. Thank you.

[@grenmastermike]

Tough episode for me, I am a Christian. I am educated and hard working. I'm married and I volunteer in my community. I have studied other religions and world views. I lived in Europe for 6 years and I've traveled all over the united states as a military brat. I understand Geoff's frustration with religion too! I would love to have an opportunity to talk with him some day. I hope he doesn't actually think that I'm stupid.

[@CButtonshaw]

I think the "stupid" ppl are the ones that believe every word in the book (old testament specifically) as reality and not just parables on how to be good person. Admittedly not that knowledgeable on how they frame old testament but if someone didn't say "The Bible" and gave you the synopsis you'd like it some insane fantasy novel.

[@grenmastermike]

CButtonshaw I appreciate that! I think I probably believe the whole old testement though. I even believe in miracles. There's something to be said, of course, for reading those books in context and not singling out one side of the story, like any History book. I just wanted to say what was on my heart after listening to that podcast. Don't get me wrong though, I'm a long time follower which kinda makes me feel like Geoff and the others are almost like friends. It kinda hurt when Geoff was so critical, and I reached out to try and remedy that.

[@CButtonshaw]

Miracles are complicated. I believe weird, unexplainable things happen but I don't know if the Noah or Moses things.... hell even the Jesus things happened. Do I think people like Moses and Jesus existed? Sure. Did EVERYTHING happen as stated? Doubtful. I respect the spiritual side of things but you have to admit some ppl go too far and give a bad name to religion by being close minded and awful towards other ppl. It's organization of religion that's the issue not the ppl... well not MOST of them

[@grenmastermike]

CButtonshaw I think you have a good point about bad people and bad organizations. I think you would agree that religion or no, the purpose of an organization should be to love and help people rather than ostracize and hurt them. Any religion or organization that doesn't at least do that is no bueno in my experience. It's obvious that you and I have different views of the world, for example, but that should make us want to understand and help one another. Care for your fellow (wo)man is the beginning.

[@CButtonshaw]

well yes we would have different views, we've never spoke before lol. but yes, me being a total atheist since birth The Bible is just another fantasy book to me. AND the fact that I'm one of the ppl (LGBTQ) that are Hell-bound I'm not likely to agree with anything religious (multi-denominations)

[@SIGBizzle]

I love the honesty of you guys, it’s good to talk about this stuff, it connects the right people together. Love you guys 💚🖤

[@nicholasschmitz1112]

The whole "historically accurate" argument, particularly for the battlefield part. It's not that gamers don't want a female protagonist, it's people complaining that 99% of the time; women didn't have combat roles during this time period. (Let alone having the capability of shooting guns with prosthetic arm and beating German soldiers to death with a cricket bat) Dice could have made that character a female fighting for the French Resistance, and I bet you nobody would have batted an eye (because that would've been more realistic than what was presented). Ik a lot of other people feel differently about this topic, but that's just my two cents

[@ethanmagdaleno5332]

Le Kraken I completely agree. Geoff's whole argument that "respawning makes it inherently inaccurate" is so flawed. News flash, it's a fucking video game. It would be unplayable if you went into the campaign, got shot, and then it was game over forever.

[@dumpshack9781]

Ethan Magdaleno People are upset about the multiplayer having the woman dumbass

[@Syl518]

"Here's some worthless splooge" My favorite quote from Michael

[@bob6784558]

I thought the whole thing with BF5 was the prosthetic arm not the female character, from what I can tell not many people are annoyed that there's a female playable character but the arm.

[@Toneill029]

Bounty Hunter Bob I think it just evolved from that into the women bashing. And it's not as far fetched as in ww1 major advancement came to the prosthetic industry and technology, some biopic concepts were in place if you read the western front remember when the main character told his legless budy on how he could get a prosthetic that connects to the nerves to move the fingers. Even then simple and possible stuff existed her hand is a series of three hooks just to hold her rifle. Plus it's no different form the call of duty soldier creator where a black woman could fight on the German side, it's not historically accurate but it's multiplayer it's not supposed to be, none of the series is historically or realistically accurate, so there is no reason to be as upset, so logically it's people upset about women player characters and they're hiding behind it, with lame excuses.

[@Puckosar]

@@Toneill029 Really? The only complaints i've ever heard are from people that want more historical accuracy. Never actually seen anyone hate on the women specifically. But yeah BF5 is not trying to be historically accurate, and to my knowledge never claimed to be, so having women infantry is fine.

[@Toneill029]

Puckosar Exactly but I’m pretty sure it is about women for most of the people who bitched were for the most part upset about women being portrayed in the war effort as having an active field role. Guarantee if a guy had that prosthetic had not as many people would bitch about it. The Nordlys level was about a father and son instead of mother and daughter then people wouldn’t have cared that in reality it was a long standing mission of the allies and it took the efforts of tens of Norwegian saboteurs trained by the SOE.

[@Toneill029]

Puckosar also glad to see that their is some one else out there who gets it.

[@saladDressin]

This is probably my most favorite podcast in a while

[@Toneill029]

I love iris stories.

[@20BelowLizzy]

I love these guys so much. It was fun just meeting and getting pics with them-minus Alfredo-at Lets Play Live last year; would love to do something like this where you just chill and have drinks and bullshit about random topics. They're just the coolest peeps. Lindsay always makes me laugh with her random humor; Michael's sarcasm is unparalleled, Jeremy is fun to listen to, and Geoff will always be my favorite because he's GEOFF.

[@crackwag3njax3n20]

Hearing Michael talk about Iris is the kind of quality off topic conversation I wanna hear

[@freeze_peach]

Equal Shitting? But what if I don't want to shit on your beliefs but rather I respect them and believe that as long as you are a good person then you get to go to the sweet and satisfying afterlife of whatever name?

[@austins43]

I fucking love when they get on these topics. Hearing them talk about how they aren't religious and why. Awesome. Hearing them talk about gay issues. Awesome. Hearing Michael and Lindsay geek hard over Iris, makes my fucking day. Keep it up AH

[@HanaK220]

So if they ever put out a 3hr podcast of Michael just talking about him Lindsay and iris I will keep that shit on repeat. I just can't get enough of how adorable they all are while cursing like sailors :) love you guys keep being fucking great

[@ScantPeach]

It would be interesting to compare these comments to the ones on the rt site just out of curiosity

[@tswag1842]

The story of the guy in LA at around 1:20:00 is someone who just got out prison sounds like hard time, he's struggling to adjust although hilarious rather sad

[@erick388]

I actually liked Prince of Egypt alot. The plot is pretty good if I'm honest, some of the plot points (other than the whole whether you're religious or not) are pretty easily defended per movie. Like, Ramses is an asshole because they said he's the king of egypt.

[@aserta]

Except he's not. Since he's the pharaoh of Egypt and his concern is his people. We've already disproved that the concept of slavery in Egypt was bullshit and that the pyramids were built by Egyptian people, skilled, paid, well fed labor force. The book of the bible is nothing more but a curated lore book that's been changed and censored more times than the front page of Reddit.

[@erick388]

That's not neccesasrily wrong, but it isn't true. Slavery in egypt was a thing, as it was in most of the early civilizations in the middle east. During the later half of the the middle east in olden times, slavery kinda died down (revolts and all that nonsense were alot of trouble). And on the bible being curated lore that's up to the reader to decide. If you wanna read the og and say it's nonsense, be my guest, I won't stop you. If you find it to be true, also be my guest. Religion is as open as it will ever be, simply because religion is something you chose for yourself or ignore completely. Back to the movie though, we're talking about answering the issues plot wise (imagine it's not real for a sec). If Ramses was a total asshat, it's because of a very simple reason. He had been shown (in his own way) the will of his gods (because he had all that he ever wanted and more, a sign of the gods loving you, yada, yada). Compile unto the situation that your distant adopted brother comes back from exile and tells you to let go of your work force (imagine that egypt is still in it's early stages) and you can see that it's the fear of A: A people revolting or B: The lack of said work force would require people to work in said pyramids, or whatever the government said, and they'd have to be paid fairly. All other movie issues can be explained if you simply don't think of it as real. If you wanna explain the real story of Moses, that's up for interpretation as literally every story (including some of Jesus' own stories mind you) are more metaphorical than literal. Good Day Sir XD Edit: And if I'm not mistaken (history wise) the Great Pyramids we're made by locals of the egyptian populace after a flood season where they couldn't work on crops. There is no way to tell that out of the possible hundreds of large or small pyramids lost to the sands that slavery wasn't used.

[@HrumCommander]

If you follow the story from the bible pharoh agreed to let them go at first. Then the supposedly good being Christians call God hardened his heart and made him change his mind...

[@erick388]

You only read the first part. He hardened it the first time, and allowed the first few miracles to be shown. The subsequent miracles and times when he was asked, he hardened his own heart without gods' intervention the following times. God, in the Bible, gave way to the first plague, the rest came from the Pharaoh's own choice. Not to mention that each plague was punishment for the suffering the Jews had been given if I'm not mistaken.

[@HrumCommander]

I've read the entire bible multiple tiimes over. I know this. But that's not the point. If this supposed god hadn't done it the first time they would have been free! Correct?

[@FreshMetal80]

"Here's Maynard from Tool to sing one song" That would actually be freakin epic.

[@MasonOfLife]

I’m so happy off topic goes over 2 hours

[@thewalkingedd7325]

49:09 has been Jeremy’s best moment it was so innocent

[@dylanross5527]

Half of this podcast was me trying to argue with the crew until I realized they can't hear me.

[@snailorgy]

this was such a sweet episode, everyone talking about how amazing their kids are. Jeremy getting his Spyro geek on, and Alfredo looking confused

[@basidialhawk5928]

I died more than 50 times fighting my first Valkyrie(Kara)

[@kylemoller1272]

Basidial Hawk59 they were more hard then the final boss fight!

[@chaseteel251]

Have you gotten to Valkyrie Queen yet? She was the most insane boss fight I've ever seen and I went in thinking my gear was OP.

[@kylemoller1272]

chase teel ya... I tried to beat her for over an hour and finally said screw it and switched it to easy and beat it on the first try....cheater over here!

[@cassicorzine803]

We are proud of you for quitting drinking, Geoff!

[@jibrail99]

michael never quits anything??? what about rage quit tho..

[@saiyandna2368]

Greatest missed joke

[@bryanmarkley1461]

I just have to say, I love open minded debates and listening to the conversations you drunk fucks have is very refreshing. Yes, you have people even like Michael who have such heavily concreted thoughts in the way they think but STILL can keep it unbiased towards themselves. If Michael can do it, you can do it lol love you guys

[@3dprintedboi799]

Norman Reedus and the funky fetus

[@Jess-_-meh]

My problem with The Last Jedi wasn't Rose it was the weird Leia not a death scene and then flying through space thing. I mean yeah it would've been sad but they should've let her die. And for Rose's story it was one of the better parts of the movie. I mean seriously it's not like she's Jar Jar Binks.

[@alexanderdumas870]

If anyone should have been bullied online it was Rian Johnson for giving them such shitty scripts to work with

[@awesomeness0005]

religion talk ends at 56:00

[@Zangetsu114]

This was a great Podcast. I loved it. Keep it up AH!

[@elh2019]

Apollo had a gay lover named Hycanth

[@teaganbigelow7580]

The fact that We’re Back and Balto were both mentioned in one podcast makes me so satisfied

[@clinicallyinsane5282]

Is it really a thing that Einstein is getting shit about being a bit racist or calling out a nation that was a bit off at that time in history? Like yeah, of course it's not good to be racist but the guy was born in 1879 and died in 1955. It doesn't take someone as smart as Einstein to point out that the world wasn't a great place, or a less racist place, than it is now!

[@DarraghMontgomery]

+Clinically Insane Nice name choice but I believe the counterpoint to that argument would be "Be that as it may we cannot move forward until we address our past" Although I'm sure that's about the most logical response you'll ever get to that line of thought, Hopefully not though. /Devils Advocate\

[@clinicallyinsane5282]

+ Darragh Montgomery Well yes I agree with that response, our past defines our future. The past can tell us a lot and we shouldn't hide it just cause it sucks. It's just odd that people are surprised or somehow upset to find that out.

[@Toneill029]

I think it’s more of acknowledging our faults and that even the people we hold above us are not as perfect as they seem, Einstein was a genius and revolutionized quantum and atomic science, but his blatantly racist commentary is off putting but it doesn’t destroy what he did and what he stands for today. It just makes us realize that he wasn’t what we made him out to be.

[@theodorebeasley7015]

Hearing about Iris made my day. Had a rough day and it really cheered me up. You're amazing parents so far, Lindsay and Michael.

[@DDnufcGamer]

One thing I learn about during podcasts like this is how touchy some people are. It seems Religious people are very touchy.

[@hinesvillebass6742]

just like liberals when you say anything they don't agree with with concrete evidence

[@conniereydel9899]

Religious people being touchy? Just like the priests.

[@alexanderdumas870]

"man you religious folks should really just sit down, shut up and let people call you retards and shit down your neck for trying to live a principled life"

[@randomaccount1289]

Alexander Dumas that way of saying it is kind of making a caricature, but I second the message

[@bronsknight2954]

I think that the touchy religious people, are also the most vocal religious people making it appear that most religious people are touchy. Many religious people are very secure in their faith

[@spamfighter6082]

*Talking about gun control/gun violence *Quick example of how hunting is ok Michael: "Ya kill the thing ya eat the thing" 58:57 That second layer of context is pretty important to that conversation

[@septumpunch7797]

Y'all religious people in the comments, please take a deep breath. I'm not even saying this with any malice or sarcasm! Just because people talk about something without raising it on a pedestal, it doesn't mean that they absolutely 100% hate the thing they're talking about, or the people included in that thing.

[@jennivi]

listening to michael talk about iris is just the most heartwarming thing ever.

[@OppositeofHATE7]

Are people still surprised that RT/AH are left-leaning/liberal...and it's Texas, there's nothing but guns and religion there to talk about and they’re white. It's a podcast, they're going to talk about stuff. If you don't like some stuff, skip over it. Just because you think they shouldn't talk about some stuff cuz it's "entertainment for pleasure", doesn't mean others feel the same.

[@wesleyeberly228]

OppositeofHATE7 yeah they talk about it but they often have no idea what they’re talking about RT pod is worst for this usually complaining about sensationalized stories

[@WruceBayne]

There's nothing wrong with talking about these subjects, there's something wrong with constantly saying people shouldn't be condemned for their views or beliefs, then completely doing a 180 when it's something they don't agree with. The problem is their hypocrisy, not the subject matter.

[@Karma-pq9fi]

Babitat 7 but I mean you say that as if anybody has an idea what there talking about when it comes to politics

[@regiets1]

I don't even agree with most of their views, but they have every right to have them and share them. It's still entertaining and that's what we're here for, right?

[@hinesvillebass6742]

i just enjoy hearing it and seeing little j's face like again with this

[@sauceboutai]

Yayyyyyyy all my favorite achievement hunters in the podcast

[@serj1017]

I just wanted to point out that they go from shaming/ making fun of/ borderline hate speaking about religion and people of faith right into how the hate people with unjust prejudices and people who aren’t considerate of others lifestyles.... am I wrong for thinking this is a little hypocritical?

[@sparksandrew93]

Nathan thompson you forget.. THEYRE ONLY HUMAN!

[@sparksandrew93]

After all.

[@Ghidorah599]

Also they’re joking

[@boblob3509]

i haven't watched this video yet but yeah that sounds pretty hypocritical

[@funnyName96]

Criticizing a belief and making fun of how crazy it is isn't hate speech.

[@gamingtieofdoom]

I LOVE this episode. Thank you.

[@Toneill029]

I'm with Micheal some people are picking fights about shit that isn't there. There is no agenda, and your balls still exist. And especially with everybody else they are honestly awesome.

[@Toneill029]

DieselsWorkshop99 The no agenda or the balls part?

[@Toneill029]

John Doe #1122-68 Ah well there aren't, at least not in the way people are making it out to be. If people are so insecure they have to say everything is a conspiracy instead of a simple growth in maturity through or media by including groups that have been unjustifiably persecuted in he past, then are missing out and should learn to grow up.

[@BROWNMIST44]

Tim O'Neill there absolutely are agendas in entertainment. All you have to do is look at the changes that are being made to properties that have existed long before any of this nonsense began. Just look at Spider-Man homecoming with it's black Mary Jane (which is absolutely not who that character is meant to be), Solo with it's pansexual Lando (even though pansexuality didn't exist when that character was created), The Last Jedi with it's inclusion of an overly powerful female lead that did nothing to earn her power (unlike every other Jedi in the franchise), and Battlefield V with it's British female soldiers fighting on the front line (which NEVER happened in either the British, or American armed forces during WWII). These are the symptoms of a political correctness movement that is sweeping through every entertainment industry there is. I'll cap off my point by stating that being annoyed at the forced inclusion of every sex/race/sexuality under the sun, is not the same as being a sexist/racist/homophobe.

[@emmapegouske]

Pansexuality absolutely existed back then. It just wasn't named yet. Saying it didn't exist is like saying that Mt. Everest or Gravity didn't exist until we discovered and named it. That's not how it works.

[@BROWNMIST44]

Ethan Pegouske so, out of everything I said that's the part you wanna focus on? That one small example? Regardless of whether or not you think pansexuality is a real thing ( I don't ), you're right that it wasn't named back then. This proves that Lando being a pansexual is a recent development of the character, which also proves my point that they did that intentionally to pander to people like you, who focus on unimportant details like that.

[@FanFicnic]

Listening to Michael and Lindsay talk about parenthood brings me so much joy

[@FanFicnic]

I could listen to a full Iris podcast honestly

[@PandoraChun]

Great cast this week 👌🏼

[@xjayfromva7730]

The prince of Egypt gave me nightmares as a kid. I’ll never forget the scene where the kids are being taken and killed. That musical scene flashed through my head as kid in the dark it was terrifying rofl

[@messynessie4417]

I am incredibly saddened by what people assume Christians stand for. A few "Christian" groups have twisted the Word to keep people down, to treat people badly, just to make themselves feel righteous (when really they're just self-righteous). "Love your neighbor as yourself" seems to be an inconvenient truth for some. It's easy... everyone was created by God, no matter whether they believe it or not, and everyone deserves unconditional love, same as God loves his creation. No matter your beliefs (or non-beliefs), I'll treat you the same. Name any part of the gender or sexuality spectrums, and I guarantee I've got lovely friends all along them. We're not all the same. I'd ask AH to not lump us all together... I don't lump them in with "stereotypical" Texans :)

[@PENGUlN124]

I'd argue that you probably hold beliefs that are at ends with your religion. For example, according to christianity, nonbelievers will rightfully suffer eternity in hell for the simple fact that they do not believe. I wouldn't say that that is a particularly loving scenario.

[@Djhiphop1000000000]

Messy Nessie um no whoever murders or is lgbt is not someone who you put with Christians. They can be forgiven Or can be accepted if they change but if they keep there ways it’s against the principles of god

[@DarraghMontgomery]

+Penguin124 I would point out that it depends on the branch of Christian belief, some believe that only true sinners will be sentenced to hell whilst the non-believers will be left on earth or in some form of purgatory until they embrace god. Others believe that you're only in hell until you let god into your heart and that's hardly eternity in hell. To these ends his beliefs are not against the beliefs of his religion. But your perspective on Christianity is a very American perspective. Not saying that in a rude manner but your point seems based mainly on the more famous examples and groups, the majority of which are most present in America. Whenever I was growing up I was never taught that you'd suffer in hell for eternity if you didn't follow god, I was taught that god was a loving father but could not help you so long as you did not allow him to help you. Though it must be said I am not Christian and don't often hold Christians in high regard due to the amount of fanatics the religion breeds. But I cannot say they are inherently wrong, as I personally do not know so to each their own.

[@FBI-dz8ps]

Bill Anderson Umm, generalising much, you sure have a pattern with your comments.

[@TheGenericDavis]

It's not a "few" or minor renegade groups or sects as you'd like to paint it. To pick one of many examples, the Roman Catholic Church actively shields pedophiles among their priests to the detriment of thousands of innocent children. There have been rumors of abuse for decades, the story broke majorly 20 years ago, and they continue to perpetuate evil to preserve their image. This isn't a small group or a few deviants, it is a global institution that has diverged from the core tenets they claim to profess.

[@RowieSundog]

Ahhh it's so fuckin wholesome to hear the Joneses talking about Iris