Geisha vs Oiran: What's the Difference? 花魁と芸者の違い

[@NervousGaming1990]

There are still real Tayu in Japan, and they do not wear wigs. It's their real hair. They are highly respected because they have dedicated their lives to tradition. The way they entertain customers is way different then a normal Geisha as well. They even have a dance that geisha are not allowed to perform. It's for Tayu only.

[@Dave_McKee]

You are correct they are called TAYU-DIVA and they reside only in a sector of Kyoto they are rarely seen in public, also not a chance a normal person would ever come in contact with one unless they are of high stature and wealth. I find this video somewhat offensive given the lack of respect shown to full Geisha yet alone PROPER TAYU of Kyoto.

[@siriuss_7]

Wow. I really wanna explore japan.

[@HiragamaIkunai]

there are lots of groups that maintain tradition even now they are small its not that strange ~

[@stephaniecrews8011]

@@Dave_McKee why you would never see a geisha outside.

[@Dave_McKee]

@@stephaniecrews8011 I did not say a Geisha I specifically said a Tayu.

[@TheMormonSorceress]

I know an easier way to tell Geishas and Oirans. Geishas Obis are always tied in the back while Oirans are tied in the front.

[@jamie-vm6dr]

is that because the Oiran are prostitutes, and that they can't be bothered to put the obi on and off all the time?

[@emunahshalomselah5124]

+• jk as in jungkookie • That is correct.

[@iamlinda100]

it's also easier for their clients to take off their Obi when it's tied at the front

[@abbeyBominable123]

I found out about this from memoirs of a geisha

[@iamlinda100]

memoirs of a geisha is actually very misleading, there are some details in the movie that are incorrect and inconsistent to reality. Such as in the movie geishas are wrongly portrayed as basically prostitutes, but in reality geishas are not prostitutes, they are entertainers who sing, dance, play instruments, engage in conversations and basically just entertain their clients, they do not have sex with their clients. That's one of the big misconceptions about geishas, they're always wrongly portrayed as prostitutes in movies & TV shows.

[@VeNuS2910]

i can't imagine how tired the star of the parade was. she was wearing a 30 kilogram costume and she needs to wear those high heels and walk 400 meters. i hope she got payed accordingly for all of it.

[@Oshidorinohina]

Always.

[@elle-iza]

Well, 400 meters is not *that* far and 30 kilograms not *that* heavy, especially when the weight is distributed around your body. And it's not always about money. Keeping your people's history and tradition alive is an honour for people who take pride in their culture. You can't understand that if your part of a culture that's fairly new.

[@phishcatt]

@@elle-iza You can't be proud of something you didn't accomplish but was handed down to you upon birth. You can feel awe or inspired by it, but certainly not pride.

[@elle-iza]

@@phishcatt Who are you to tell me what I can and can't be proud of? :) Maybe you're simply not aware, but the definition of some terms vary, depending on the cultural glasses through which you look at them. And there is a thing called "national pride" in many countries (what's 'patriotism' to you Americans). But thanks for the shortsighted lecture. :)

[@siekensou77]

Elle-Iza Logan Though 1 full year salary for 1 night is a pretty hefty sum

[@adeusy]

In Zashiki, Oiran sat on the upper seat, and the guest was always sitting on the lower seat. Oiran class prostitutes were higher than guests. The first party (the first time), oiran sat in a place away from the customer, did not eat or drink regardless of customers. At this time, the customers were conditioned and could not associate with Oiran if they were deemed unsuitable. From the early childhood, Oiran candidates were thoroughly educated as classics and calligraphy, tea ceremony, Japanese poetry, koto, shamisen, Go and other entertainment since as Kamuro. To Oiran, many famous people of the day, including samurai and wealthy townspeople, also attended, and Yoshiwara had the appearance of a cultural salon. In Edo that was tolerant to sex, Oiran existed as an incarnation representing female beauty, the highest grade character and standing behavior were required, and it existed as a symbol of Edo's mature culture as Ukiyoe prints by famous painters.

[@blackhole7909]

Was about to say the same thing

[@eggthetalonflame1453]

the Oirans must be super strong after wearing excess pounds of weight on them.

[@fionafiona1146]

While having to look very fragile and delicate and make the most fluid motions

[@eggthetalonflame1453]

@Han Lockhart it's still going to be heavy with a lot of layers on it.

[@02_mokai80]

Han Lockhart Oiran can wear up to 6-7 kimonos, which can be pretty heavy combined with the hair, and all the accessories and add ons, also having to balance on the 8 ft shoes.

[@lisasta827]

The effort to preserve ancient tradition makes Japan so unique and beautiful. Kitsune sama (Fox) seems so popular in Japan. I know wild deer freely roam in Nara are regarded as messenger of Gods. Wild foxes are also treated well in Japan's Fox Village. There are many shrines about foxes such as Inaritaisha in Kyoto. Mr. John, perhaps will you investigate about these Japan's spiritual animals and stories behind them. It would be very interesting! Thank you xx

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Vreede Anna YES! That's a great idea to focus on the animals here in Japan. I know the SNOW MONKEYS are very popular and my good friend Art made a short video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foDYmnxvg5qgn7s I will definitely be leaving Tokyo and focusing on the other fantastic places around this amazing country! Thanks for the idea!! I'll see if I can develop it. -John

[@lisasta827]

Awww thank you!!

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

This is why magpies using L back to front to hide the down syndrome there that's why they used to toy spring to cover the stairs situations and then got complicated I sick and tired of trying to explain so many cover ups as I'm skilled for health? 😭😂

[@raffaellamariaribatti1747]

they have white painted face because during 800 electricity doesn't exist, yet. So, they painted their face white to show better their face at the light of candles and lanterns during the night Nice video, very informative... what about one about Kyoto's Geikos?

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Raffaella Ribatti I didn't know that! There is a lot to learn about the culture for sure! Thank you for that! -John

[@liamturner5306]

The tradition of white makeup was actually original from china as a pale complexion was considered beautiful and wealthy. During the heian period about 1000 years ago (way before geisha) they used white makeup so it isnt exclusive to geisha culture and also the story about the candle light is kinda false even though it may hold some truth

[@Oshidorinohina]

It went further back than just 1800's. it goes back to the first era's of Japan. It was a way to distinguish nobility from lower class and was worn by men and women alike however, it started becoming popular among women of middle class status and above so it was adopted as a beauty trend, and over time it became synonymous with entertainers. Also ohaguro or "blackened teeth" started as a noble trend but eventually the courtesans of the pleasure quarters adopted it. I wouldn't depend on this guy to know too much about Kyoto Geiko - that's a prestige all on their own since they are typically more private.

[@kissarococo2459]

even in europe the very white facepaint was favored for this reason: people could see you in candlelight as if you were an ethereal creature that illuminated.

[@nicoleliew1]

Raffaella Ribatti l

[@burpitola]

I wonder how many girls break their ankles while practicing that walking pattern?

[@Oshidorinohina]

it takes months or years of practice and they have someone to hold them up while they do it.

[@VitalijKaramakov]

they pass through a very strict training to make their feet and ankles strong, they must learn the movement properly on the ground before they put the shoes on.... they wouldnt risk the girls like that....

[@areid0528]

Lol

[@IrishAnnie]

When platforms were big, I hurt my ankle multiple times.

[@watercolourferns]

"Wanna see her feet? It's not for free!" That's so inaccurate! It's more like "wanna see her feet? NOT EVER!" Geisha never show their body nor skin aside from what the kimono and makeup show.

[@gmtjgdtmgmuaeeg]

花魁に会うためにはまずお茶屋さんに行かなければなりません。 そこで、お茶屋さんがお客さんの好みを聞き出してそれにあった女郎さんをご紹介するのです。 そして1日お金を払って会うだけではもてなしては貰えません。3回目くらいでやっと、もてなしてもらえるものなのです。

[@natashasemrau3670]

Japan's top models are so very beautiful. Very complicated kimonos are eye candy. The complex mixes of patterns and colors is just lovely. I can't describe it any better. Human beings transforming themselves into flowers, what a concept of Grace. Thank you for sharing your culture with us online.💮💮🌼🌼🌼🌼🌻🌻🏵🌸🌸🌺🌺🌷🌷🌹🌹💐💐🌹🌷🌷🌺🌺🌺🌸🌸🏵🏵🌻🌻🌻🌼🌼🌼🌼💮💮💮💮💮🌼🌼🌻🌻🏵🌸🌸🌸🌸🌺🌺🌺🌺🌷🌷🌷🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌺🌺🌸🏵🏵🌻🌻🌼🌼💮💮💮💮🌼🌼🌻🌻🏵🏵🌸🌸🌺🌺🌺🌷🌷🌹🌹🌹💐💐💐

[@alyssamaxon]

Such an amazing culture I love Japanese culture not just anime or manga

[@LotusBabyTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6mQhoKFobRorqM

[@B3rry_strawberry]

@@dozergetscrafty When was she romanticizing it?

[@pyroshannon8699]

@@B3rry_strawberry you got em

[@amu_amu]

花魁とは通称です。 遊女の階級に呼出し(yobidashi)というものがありますが、それ以上の遊女が「花魁」と呼ばれました。 呼出しは、客を遊女自身の部屋に呼び出す事ができるので、かなり高い階級であったと推測できます。

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

The #oiran Dochu is taking place again this week near #asakusa in #yoshiwara . They're not #geisha but it's nice to experience the regal #parade of the Oiran which is much more interesting. Fantastic #event in #Tokyo -John #花魁道中

[@loonarmybot3244]

Yay!

[@abrahamarciga3334]

wow your channel is very well made. i hope your channel gets put on tv soon

[@emilyc6491]

ONLY in JAPAN l've been to all the places that you went in this video and I loved it

[@saucypan-8796]

wow

[@windbreaker57]

I spent a whole day in Asakusa but regretfully not when they had the Oiran Dochu.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Geisha vs. Oiran: Can you tell the difference? Where can you see them in #Japan ? Definitely #Asakusa ! If you are in Tokyo, check out the Oiran Dochu in April. It's a piece of history and part of #Japanese tradition. In this video, we will lay it all out for you and see the dochu in the Yoshiwara! #geisha #oiran #show #watch #cooljapan #100tokyo #isjapancool #kimono #tokyo #performace 

[@TheVetema]

WAORYU ONLYinJAPAN from what I know there's difference in obi knot as well. A Geisha's knot would be at the back while an Oiran's knot would be in the front (for easy tying without any assistance in the old days). A very enjoyable video! :)

[@charondolls]

+ONLY in JAPAN AMAZING VIDEO AND BACK STORY, thank you John, I hope you will get huge funding to continue!! I also think you will be an excellent travel guide presenter on TV!

[@Dxco31]

Dude this is a quality documentary. You can have your own tv show on bbc or hbo for this. Hope this chanel was had a good funding

[@korena1337]

xxnx japan

[@kaustavkardong1647]

+DOnker true

[@blurdreamer]

10:49 I like how they take care of little detail, wrap something soft at the bottom of the metal stick to avoid destroy the road.

[@VeNuS2910]

i thought you were talking about the Kimono. :)

[@konkonchikichin]

外国の方の情報で日本を教えてもらえるってことが、とても多くなりました。　今回の動画を拝見させてもらって、子供の頃からの疑問がようやく解けました。　父は神田の生まれで私もそこで育ちました。　母は上野の出身なので浅草は良く遊びに行っていたそうです。　私が子供の頃、浅草寺にお参りした後、子供の足では疲れるくらい歩いて酉の市が行われる神社まで母に連れて行かれることが何回かありました。　母は、その場所に着くと、この裏手には昔違う世界があったのよといつも云うのですが、どんな世界があったの？と興味深々に何回尋ねても「知らなくていいの」というだけでした。　教えてくれないなんて変なのっ！！っていつもモヤモヤしたままでした、が、それから数十年過ぎた今　やっとそこに何があったのか、どんな世界が存在していたのか、その謎が解けました。　　「吉原」　あぁ　あの場所がかつての吉原だったなんて、、、　　私の迷宮入りしていた謎を解いてくださってありがとう　そして、柞葉の母の面影を色濃く思い出させてくださって本当にありがとう　　(*^_^*)

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

+konkonchikichin Thank you for the nice message and sharing your story! Yoshiwara is great and I am also glad many foreign visitors appreciate Japan's amazing culture and history! -john

[@masterbitter7688]

+ONLY in JAPAN what did he says haha

[@LotusBabyTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6mQhoKFobRorqM

[@ごはん-o1j]

Thank you for the upload !! I'm so pleased that many people enjoy Japanese culture;) I want more people all over the world to love Japan !!

[@xahxyy1551]

Thats creepy

[@B3rry_strawberry]

@@xahxyy1551 Yea, it could have been worded differently. His intentions with this comment is quite clear tho

[@thewr0ngchild]

Also a fully trained Geisha has a 'fork' of natural skin left showing on her neck.

[@ftislandhongstar123]

A Maiko (apprentice Geisha) yes. But a Geiko (full Geisha) not.

[@liamturner5306]

no geiko still have the fork but its partially hidden by a geikos wig as its lower on the neck

[@Oshidorinohina]

so did Tayuu and Oiran but theirs remained a 3 pronged vs a maiko or geisha only wears a 3 prong paint style on special occasions.

[@SophieJackson1993]

Geisha that are fully trained don’t wear the make up.

[@hawkhillfalconer3529]

@@SophieJackson1993 wrong.

[@imsophie25]

日本人でもはっきりと分からなかった違いや文化を知れました。しかも日本語字幕付き。すごく為になりました！他の動画も見ます！！！

[@anuragsharma4277]

only one thing for Japan they really are art lovers and truly dedicated towards their art no matter how difficult and painful it is.

[@sonon9897]

男衆は「おとこしゅう」ではなく「おとこし」とよむのが主流です。吉原には昔から興味があるので、一度花魁道中を見てみたいですね。

[@silenceddreamz]

三浦sonon can I learn me Japanese please 🙏

[@TheLAexplorer]

Wow this is my first time finding this KZbin channel. Is this a TV show or something? Very good production quality.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

The L.A. Explorer It's just a simple KZbin show ;) I'm glad you liked it! -John

[@averyflores3669]

ONLY in JAPAN first time I've seen this show, I enjoyed it. quick questions are there any similar things between both? and do they get a long, or are they competitor's? I love there attention to detail.

[@heresfrankbetches921]

This is really interesting and very high quality! I'm so glad to find this channel

[@jeromelin9447]

Thank you John! Before today, I didn't know the difference at all. In fact, I thought the oiran dochu ( more specifically the Tayu) was geisha in their ceremonial form, while the regular geisha are in their work clothes. Now i know they are different professions.

[@sarahj7891]

Am I the only one thinking about when nature calls and she has to take all that off??

[@liviciel4591]

BlondJapaneseChic if

[@LotusBabyTV]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6mQhoKFobRorqM

[@johngoodman5976]

BlondJapaneseChic 😆

[@MpMon]

Oh gosh , *sweats*

[@clare5one]

That would be my luck!

[@dvddpr]

Very informative! Now I know the difference between a Geisha and an Oiran!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

David Dupree Thank you, David! Yup, get it right :P hehe -john

[@YoushouNoKioku]

This is very good! It's hard to find good documentation of the differences of Oiran and Geisha.. Too many people get them confused and it's frustrating.

[@rezam6060]

I can never figure out why countries ban prostitution. All it does is to drive it underground where women or men are always in danger of being abused and killed. Making it legal makes it safer for everyone involved and the governments can make extra money by taxing the brothels.

[@VicodinElmo]

Religious ideologues still have an alarmingly large influence on national laws, unfortunately.

[@nyantsuki1061]

agree. it´s like the oldest profession on this planet. keeps at least a few rapist away from innocent women/children.

[@TheElectronicDoctor]

I am glad I am not the only one who has noticed this. I do feel like even in public it can be corrupted but it would still be a lot safer than say 4Chan postings, kidnappings, rape, etc. Plus then the people get taxed and it goes towards the community instead. ^_^

[@janimeramen9068]

Lucas Williams you know its not legal I'n Japan but it wasn't taken away because of the religious part there main religion even thinks cheating and child selling is all right.

[@janimeramen9068]

Nyan Tsuki but then the women and girls who are selling get raped.

[@kauemoura]

7:00, if it gets cold, she's already carrying her own duvet and futon.

[@KuR58]

I find interesting how the oiran and tayu paint every part of their exposed skin white, including feet, while geishas emphasized that mask effect by painting only the face and neck, leaving part of the nape of their neck and her arms etc in its natural color.

[@CCBMmemes]

Thanks for getting this episode out quickly. Enjoyed it.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

CCBM You're welcome. Already working on the next one! -John

[@BenjiSun]

you can still see a somewhat simpler Oiran Dochu every day if you go to Edo Wonderland near Nikko, at Kinugawa onsen, which is also a great place to stay for an evening and enjoy onsen.

[@igweogba6774]

I really like your videos. So informative and goes deep.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Igwe Ogba This really was DEEEEEEP! I'm so glad you liked this episode. I learned so much from it too! -John

[@ammanexpat]

John you and your team from "Only In Japan" are creating excellent videos. Very informative, friendly and professional. Keep up the good work - can't wait to see more. You need your own show on public access TV in the states!

[@dremarasigan9693]

Japan is weird but fascinating. That's why I like it

[@amberlawson7867]

osakanokiya samee

[@L33TRedNinja]

True.

[@tristanbackup2536]

@OKUDA wait? . . . What? 😂🤣😂

[@mahfuzabinteislam2810]

Very much weird

[@yourmailishere]

This was lovely, people always talk about geishas but not oirans. I've always wanted to learn about them and this video was perfect!

[@haitolawrence5986]

Always an amazing, thoughtful and well produced channel John. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us!!! =) My own interest in Japan came from the enjoyment of some of the usual, modern aspects of the culture..anime, manga, etc.. Of course exploring the historic and traditional elements of their culture leads to a greater appreciation of the modern Japan! All the best! ;)

[@crisp7423]

i know bro i like japan too much !! im obsessed with japan i love japan i love anime allthe things of japan !! my childhood is japanis cartoons i really want to go there

[@Oshidorinohina]

The oshiroi or white makeup was worn by nobles before the Heian period by men and women alike. As was ohaguro (painting the teeth black) and shaving the eyebrows to paint them high on the head. Later on, the middle class followed suit trying to be as graceful as a noble and copied them - but the ones that really ran with it were the Tayuu of Kyoto who even copied their names especially from famous stories like the Tale of Genji. As said in the video - the parade was literally a way to show off "a quality product of X brothel." also with it came with a trademark name. ex. 'Hanamurasaki of the Tochirumonji' until she retired and another woman took that name. Each house owned different names that were recycled similar to how geisha/maiko names work.

[@Eszra]

I was recently reading on Oiran, and it was very interesting about how different they were from the women that worked in the Red Light district. The Highest level of Oiran was always the most expensive to buy. I heard that many Oiran's once they reached a high level would refuse men they didn't like in hopes of taking only a wealthy man that I heard could and many times beg to marry her, but that's just as I heard anyway. I also heard that many times Oiran would act a great deal like Geisha only with the sleeping with the man part added, and sometimes they wouldn't even do anything but spend time together. It's very interesting. I'm so happy you did a video on this!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Eszra NIce to hear from you again! Yes!! I was so surprised about that. The Yoshiwara had such strict rules and customs. That is probably true that the Tayu held out for the wealthiest men. When they got older, I am sure they'd try to retire with a wealthy sponsor, like in the movie / book Memoirs of a Geisha. I think we both learned a lot from this video, didn't we? Very happy to have shared it with everyone else. THANK YOU ALWAYS for watching :) -John

[@Eszra]

WAORYU ONLYinJAPAN Thank you! I couldn't think of the word sponsor at all so thanks again for helping me with that. I love these video's so please keep up the excellent work!

[@Oshidorinohina]

Sometimes the courtesan and her patron would fall in love but they often didn't wind up together.

[@MsAustralopitecus]

Every episode is great I love it. Thank you for bring Japan to our homes. Kisses and hugs from Mexico.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Sonia G. Thank you!! Sending back some big Tokyo hugs and kisses to Mexico! -John

[@ethencarlin1992]

I'm loving this channel! Every time I watch it I really want to go to Japan!!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Ethen Carlin Maybe it's time for a visit!! This city is going to really change from now to the 2020 Olympics. Already so much construction happening! Fantastic vibe here now. THANK YOU for watching and writing!! -John

[@yumiulrich4eva]

Holy shit all those layers and that wig, must be so freaking heavy. Thank you for this educational video!

[@Glasseyyy]

This is incredibly helpful for me, especially for One Piece as they're entering the Wano arc. Thank you John!

[@alexagapov7793]

you truly love japan i can tell, i feel the same way as you my dream is to live there one day i want to make it a reality no matter how time it takes in April it will be my 2nd time to visit Japan, and i truly love every aspect of this amazing culture Thank you for your hard work (Ganbatte) i learned a lot from your show

[@emanuel-vw8rg]

6:51 so stunning, she looks like she stepped straght out of a painting😍😍

[@north707coastnomad]

i really appreciate how the narrator is able to properly pronounce Japanese words; he also sounds very familiar with the language. good job!

[@autumneagle]

Minus the Asah-koosa part.

[@madeleinemadeleine4214]

An Oiran isn´t the same as a Tayu. A Tayu has high skills in art while the Oiran doesn´t.

[@hellnah4262]

Thank you!!! It's sad ppl will go all the way to Japan and not have done a lick of real research

[@ScribStat]

@@Freevids99 Yeah, that's true. You can be a tayuu oiran, or the highest oiran of a specific group.

[@hiroshimanagasaki6769]

It depends on the female being the oiran though. I saw an oiran great in music, shamisen to be precised

[@miyako1909]

What you said wrong. Tayu is a rank.

[@skktvgirl]

Oiran have high skills in art. Tayu are geisha while oiran are prostitutes, two completely different things.

[@BelloBudo007]

You always make good video, but I think this one may just be your best. I knew a little about Geisha, mostly that they are misunderstood by us westerners, now though I know much more. Thank you for helping educate us about things in Japan.

[@chaoscrysblack4178]

I'm sorry but I've never heard someone a kimono to an onion...."silk onion" HAH! Now THAT is funny! Genuinely I do love all of your videos, this is like my fourth or fifth time watching this one, keep up the good work!!!

[@themanager1980]

We are always glad for your professional youtube vids. Your channel should be on BBC or NBC.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

themanager1980 Wow! To have a budget, a team, and then an international channel to broadcast it from!?!?! That would be like paradise! I think the biggest challenge is doing a lot of these shows myself from the script to the filming and editing. I am lucky to have WAORYU adding subtitle and helping with some of the little things that make the job even harder. Perhaps one day ... we have to work hard and think big!! Thank you so much for watching the show!! Appreciate it very much! -John

[@journeybeyondthesea]

The culture is so beautiful 😍

[@hanhil3673]

The white face was explained in another documentary about a Geisha in training. In the olden days when they didn't have any electricity, the white makeup on a Geisha's face and neck served as a sort of reflector to the lamp light that highlighted her beauty even more.

[@zesty_italian377]

omg... a greek in japan... how rare 😂😂😂

[@VicodinElmo]

Is that sarcasm haha? Or are you actually surprised?

[@zesty_italian377]

actually suprised

[@VeNuS2910]

it's funny that everything was explained by the Greek. he's probably paying attention to everything. :)

[@shinebrightlikeadoitsu1120]

My hetalia giripan shipping heart is exploding.

[@LuciaFiero]

Whatever he is I thought: OKAY here is the guy who's here for the history of prostitution. (Creep)

[@yippehanako]

it's my understanding that a tayu isn't an oiran. Oiran took their style from tayu but that's where the similarities end. The services of a tayu are the same as geisha- i.e. entertainers, not prostitutes.

[@SUPERGENKI]

Good one John - nicely done as usual! ^_- Thumbs up.... Thomas

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

+SUPERGENKI JAPAN Thanks Thomas! -john

[@midoritea4413]

Hmm...I was under the impression Oiran and Tayu were different...

[@astroboy3507]

Hi john I never knew about oiran looks like a lot more work than geisha !!!! I never knew about that but again your show is very informative !!!!thanks Also my wife knows u and helped u with some videos long time ago re. pizza videos !!!! We just came back from asakusa !!!!!!!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

astroboy3507 HI Astroboy3507! It's great to hear from you again and glad to hear you learned as much about the oiran as I did while making this episode! Oh my!! I remember such a kind girl who helped launch some of my earliest shows more than 11 years ago! She moved to Australia, I think. Graphic designer. Super talented. Hmm ... I can't think of any other pizza videos than that one which was my first one ever! If that's her, please tell her how grateful I am! -John

[@astroboy3507]

Correct she moved with me to Sydney and yes we been together now 10 years so correct !!!!!! Thanks for your kind words and yes I will tell her now !!!!!!!!!! 😆

[@meagraham7299]

astroboy3507 mn

[@TsetsiStoyanova]

Grigoros is still a baby

[@porkybunbun604]

i love your videos! thank you for sharing. A new subby ~ much love from Vancouver, Canada

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

You're very welcome! I'm glad you found the channel and enjoyed the show :) -John

[@PB33F]

thank you so much for another great vid!!!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Tangy Orange Thank YOU! -John

[@min1022ful]

「太夫」は京都の島原での呼び方です。

[@diamond8100]

Tayu and Oiran are way different. Tayu are not prostitutes. Tayu were obive geishas and entertainers for higher up while geisha entertained nobles.. Oiran instead entertained people in different ways.. Tayu and Oiran and totally different. Geisha and Tayu are probably the same but Tayu is more educated and has mastered EVERYTHING a geisha could possible do.

[@kimiakiooyama6149]

A beautiful video. I could learn a lot about oiran of Yoshihara in EDo era.

[@mwiese2593]

This is so beautiful. Thank you for the upload

[@rocker1821]

How many broken ankles have happened from those shoes

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

rocker1821 I wonder ... I'll ask Okita-sensei next time I see her. Interesting question!! -John

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

rocker1821 I asked ... she said she doesn't know of any breaks but there have been a couple of falls, usually int he beginning and certainly during training. They do not do the dochu during the rain or when the streets are wet. In fact, this event was delayed once day due to rain. They also don't want to get those kimono wet and lose that white makeup! -John

[@rocker1821]

WAORYU ONLYinJAPAN Well then that is amazing that nobody ever broke their ankle with the foot motion and all.

[@happytheleaf948]

Lafcadio Hearn, in his book "Glimpses of unfamiliar Japan" written from his period late 1800's describes beautifully and with great love and understanding, having married into a Samurai family, the life and culture of the Japanese, and to this day his writings are tought in japanese schools.

[@velfarre]

ok the host speaks japanese well, so why does he keep pronouncing the japanese terms in such an obnoxious US accent? okita sensei is now oukeeda sennsay? just why? It's understandable if you're reading romaji and are not used to inflections in japanese so this is extremely grating...

[@LovelyAngel.]

velfarre isn't it? At first I was like "oh, here we go, AsakUUUsa and so on" and then "wait, he actually speaks Japanese? Where does that bad pronunciation come from and why?"

[@BeaFullbuster]

Sometimes is difficult to get rid of your accent. I'm spanish and because pur sounds are likely, it's easy for me to pronounce well in japanese, but if you heat me speaking english you woukd be like wtf xD

[@sugarbooga8731]

velfarre No.

[@sugarbooga8731]

Lovely Angel Because.

[@knightchef]

Because he has a U.S. accent...

[@heynhamnham]

I can recognize most of the information from what One Piece showed in the introduction of Wano Arc. The Oiran, the Oiran's assistants, the heavy wig hairstyle, the foxes, the whole parede. They put almost everything

[@dutchdearslisa]

Thank you for sharing this was very interesting !

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Onepeace I'm so happy you enjoyed it! Thank you! -John

[@mitsubahatespotatos.9751]

"She might be wearing atleast 5 layers of kimono" Me:WTF DID JUST CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH?!

[@CannibalLecter]

*Hears about Yoshiwara *Sweats in Gintama

[@SassafrasTee7366]

Imagine under all that fabric, the women must be TONED AS HECK!

[@521Life]

Came to see how many people would comment on his pronunciation of “Asakusa”...but since I see none, I’ll leave mine out.... except for what I’ve already said. Lol

[@theharper1]

My teeth were grinding every time he said it. Just awful.

[@a.bourne6386]

There was this Japanese movie I watched about the fabulous(and not so fabulous) life of an Oiran. Pretty interesting show. Actors were great. And of course... The kimonos! Hair, styles and color. Oiran was truly a rock star.

[@ElBrujoCoral]

“Only in Japan”, but it is not someone from Japan being interviewed.

[@pinkaroo92]

Japan has such a beautiful culture. Love this channel.

[@TheDivineKitten]

Your videos are really informative and very high quality indeed! Love how you explain things, very easy to follow! Thank you so much! Hope to see more of your videos :)

[@Jefferic321]

I absolutely love your shows. Thanks for sharing!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Jefferic 321 Thank YOU!! Really appreciate you taking the time to write! -John

[@CHRISTOPHER-mp1cg]

yoshiwara and oiran, i became a fan of them ever since demon slayer swords 😭😭😭😭😭

[@spindext]

When that orian sensei opened her mouth, an endless stream of words flew out !!

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

spindext It was a lot to edit ;) there's a ton of knowledge! -John

[@hamadaru7041]

thank you for this another great episode

[@suriahagumi]

RABAH HAMAD i think it's depend on where do want to go..

[@hamadaru7041]

suria hagumi akihabara :3

[@hamadaru7041]

***** that was helpful thank you

[@hamadaru7041]

***** and yes btw , can you easily communicate with people with the english language only ?!

[@hamadaru7041]

***** Great , thank you

[@rufinflorence5299]

Hi John! First, please forgive me if I make some mistakes because English is not my native language. (I'm French) I discovered your videos 2 months ago and I absolutely enjoyed it. I have been in love with Japan for as long as I can remember. It's started with manga (like a lot of people I think) especially in france as you know we are fond of it. But it also became so much more after the first time I had the chance to visit. I think nobody can forget their first time in this country (especially meeting japanese people who are so amazing, nice, interesting...I could go on forever...) I really love your videos because despite the fact that you have been living there for 17 years (yes i did my homework), you seem to share the same enthusiasm as me. I love how you could still be surprised by them. It's a real pleasure to see someone who can really appreciate this beautiful country and be happy to share his experience with everyone with so much passion. Watching your videos really help me wait for my next trip. It has finally come because i'm going to Japan next saturday!! It will be my sixth time there. Unfortunately, i'm only staying there 2 weeks (a girl's gotta work!) I'm going back to Paris the 13th of June but i'm planning to go to the Tsukiji Shishi Matsuri in Tokyo on my last day. Who knows? Maybe i'll you see you around, it coud be your cool next video!! it could be nice to have a chat with you. Anyway, again thanks a lot for your hard work!! (and sorry for the long post) Florence

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

RUFIN Florence Great to hear from you! Wow!! 6th time to Japan!! You must be as in love with this place as I am. The beauty of making these shows is that I am really learning as you are. That's what's so exciting. After 17 years, it sometimes feels like my first day all over again. As Grigoris and I talked about during the shooting of this episode, there are so many elements to Tokyo (and Japan). The one we all see ... and the multiple dimensions we do not. Often those dimensions are right in front of us! Like the way a store clerk returns the change by putting the coins on top of the receipt (to keep your hand clean) and places his/her under yours so you don't drop anything. (We're supposed to shovel the coins into our coin purse from the receipt, but there's no rule.) I think one have to either visit multiple time or live here to notice much of it. That's great that you'll be able to see the Tsukiji Shishi Matsuri! It's a really great one! Let me know how your trip is going via the Facebook page: facebook.com/onlyinjapantv I will probably be either at the Rabbit Island or on Shikoku Island filming or in Tokyo editing those episodes. So glad you're enjoying the series and visiting Japan!! -John

[@SukiKitsune]

I'm going to sound stupid but I have a few questions, why do you throw coins to be fed to the lion?? Also what is the purpose of the Tekomai Geisha??

[@Oshidorinohina]

they were performers strictly, and sing songs while on the parade. typically that's how you knew a tayuu or oiran parade was in procession due to the elongated singing style. that's all i know.

[@Nefertista]

OMG! I know him! Not personally but he is really well known in Greece and Cyprus 🤓 Γεια σας κ. Μιλιαρέση, φιλιά απο Κύπρο, να ξέρετε σας ζηλεύω πολύ εκεί που είστε ☺️🙏🏼 Greatly made videos guys 👌🏼🤓💜

[@claycharms4you762]

wow l love there cloths so much colurs and texture :) but l was thiking, does it not hurt in the feets when they walk in does shose and how long is the walk they do ? *can't wait for your next video* :D *hug*

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Clay Charms 4 You Bea I am sure those geta were not made for comfort! The Oiran walks for about 400 meters. She doesn't put it on until the procession starts so I don't think it's too bad .. but yeah! She's brave!! Those kimono were awesome, too! -John

[@Rabidious]

Excellent show. Not quite what I'm used to expecting but your infectious smile seems to keep the mood regardless of a slow moving parade.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Ian Crawford I am so lucky to have the freedom to research and report on anything that it trending for this show. That's where the excitement comes from! After 17 years here, I'm still learning about Japan almost like it's my first day here -- it just plain incredible! I look outside my window when editing these videos and sometimes see Mt. Fuji. It's a little small but still ... it super cool! Thank you very much for watching. Great to hear from you! -John

[@mat_gachaplayz7405]

Im a boy and i kept practicing the soto hachi moji with my moms slide on heels and..... *i haven't broken my ankle for months*

[@fireystella]

Woo going through your videos now but yay thanks for another great video!!

[@EmmaLPeel]

I’m confused now, I thought the Tayu was the highest level a Geisha could ascend to, now he’s saying a Tayu is an Oiran. One thing I notice is that the Geisha is far more refined in appearance and I noticed the Obi is in the back.

[@mgirlblue1]

The Tayus vary by prefecture. The Shimane ones have real hair, instead of the wigs and they adorn themselves. Usually, they are not to be touched by man, she has no makeup on her feet, and the helpers have her name behind their robes. They are very rare and only entertain the highest of nobility. I don't know if they are accessing this to other prefectures.

[@13eye]

That's what i thought too, oiran and Tayu i thought were very different as Tayu were highly educated and only entertained the nobilty, and also thought oiran were not really Geisha as oiran aren't supposed to need much specialized training? HMM.

[@tinaparker6997]

you are correct this is completely wrong. Tayu were never oiran. this is a miss conception that to this day even some of the historians get wrong. oiran ar not allowed to do many of the things a tayu do. I mean there are aspects in this film that are true but the idea of the tayu being a higher ranked oiran is incorrect. the tayu is the highest ranked geisha

[@EmmaLPeel]

Tina Parker ok thank you. That makes better sense.

[@Oshidorinohina]

Geisha do not become Tayu. Tayu is it's own profession with it's own ranks.

[@timefoolery]

Fascinating! I didn’t know there was more than just maiko and geiko.

[@Simonjose7258]

11:50 Look at her ankles twisting in every direction with those shoes! It is amazing she doesn't fall! 🙏😳👏🤯

[@flynnhalley8673]

Simon Sozzi IKR!!!!!

[@FalconOD7]

Thanks for another awesome episode john unique as always

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

JoshyyBowBoshyy 23 Thank you!! Really appreciate the feedback! -John

[@kami_dred7319]

Who else here from demon slayer or one piece ?

[@mohamedboussetta7989]

Me demon slayer

[@somalinethim3356]

I watched every episode really appreciate your work John

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

Soma Lineth THANK YOU! Makes me very happy to hear you've enjoyed the series :) -John

[@somalinethim3356]

I hope u keep updating your work :)

[@nopenopefudgem]

All in favor of a kickstarter to support the show?

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

joshua bethel :) Nice to hear from you again Joshua! You're starting to give me ideas ... it would be so great to just spend a month on a bicycle riding from the very south to the north and reporting on EVERYTHING interesting along the way. This could be an option for 2016!! Hmmm .... -John

[@nopenopefudgem]

Figure the budget, we will raise the money! I told you I'm going to post it in every video until it happens. If you were to do that trip, it would be awesome to do like a show version that's all cut and edited, but then also like a between the cuts version thats longer and kind of shows what really goes on. That way the people just looking for a quick highlight of the best of Japan AND the people looking to see what things are really like both get their share.

[@WaoryuONLYinJAPAN]

joshua bethel \(^o^)/ OK I'll give it a try for the fall. Maybe do something in the summer to raise the funds. Look what you've done :) you've got me more than thinking now! I've got a pretty rugged shooting schedule until August but I'll try to find the time. THANK YOU again! -John

[@nopenopefudgem]

"If you build it, they will come."

[@kfortenbacher]

Great idea!

[@feliciakc1]

Oh wow! I definitely did not know the differences! Thanks for the information and great video :)

[@MelissaBrownapt215]

So undressing was a serious strip tease. A drunken customer might fall asleep waiting for the reveal. I never had heard of the Orian before this video. It must be a well kept secret. The second war hurt the Orian status and US soldiers couldn't appreciate the difference between pros and ordinary women dressed to advertise service. The Geisha reputation also went into decline as westerners, particularly GIs again couldn't appreciate that artistry of the profession.

[@flibbertygibbet]

Great vid thanks. I don't know if you know who Liza Dalby is but she is an American who lived and in as a Geiko in Kyoto. She put up a video of on Oiran parade in Kyoto. I recalled it when you showed the soto-hachi-moji. If you want check it out on her channel. The video is titled Courtesan's Dance. Most of the video is a dance she performs but it also shows her arrival.

[@bluegypsydoll]

In memiors of a giesha ziyi zhang moves her feet in the way of an oiran in her debut dance. Only now I understand the dance fully watching this. These women are so beautiful!! I wish more men would do it too. Thanks for this video!!

[@sarakat482]

Two mins in an you put an add on. What a treat...