War Comes to Sweden - The Grey Zone (Marine Reacts)

[@Yuushiboy]

Sweden actually sent out a folder to everyone here a couple of years ago saying "If the crisis or war arrives". It's a folder with information on what to do in a crisis and how to prepare before something like that happens. Its not been sent out since the 80s so clearly we once again see a threat and its scary even though most don't really see the seriousness in it. Thanks for showing this information.

[@patwhw]

Yup. And we sent troops to Gotland at the end of the summer. The most important island for you who arent swedish.

[@frida507]

In the 80:ies it was included in the phone book that was distributed in all cities.

[@michaelbjorklund1571]

I get the folder..

[@austinlowrance5943]

I wish I could say we Americans will have your back but as you can see biden doesn't even have Americans backs

[@RannonSi]

@@austinlowrance5943 IMO Biden's probably more likely to come to our aid than E.G. Trump was, or at least he's likelier to come to our aid faster than Trump would have.

[@derekcraig3617]

Just look at the US right now. We're fighting each other rather than focusing on solidarity and strengthening ourselves

[@Nipponing]

Same in Sweden.

[@MattePaavi]

and look at China, Korea, Russia. They obey the leader. And what happened to the swedish military leader that disappeared, The future is scary. And the rest of the world is at war

[@fauconleger7067]

define "we"

[@LighterBen]

You people are losing national integrinity and strenght That happened at my place in yugoslavia Result was that we ended up in ethnical brutal genocidal war Honestly when i look the social problem in USA and division between people , neighbours etc etc it have very similiar structure

[@verobbs1]

Thank you for your service Jameson’s Travels

[@zwielichtnatter9640]

You probably hear this a lot from your subscribers, but i want to say it too. I love the fact, that you start the video that you're gonna react to, when your video that we watch does. Not like many others, just talking bout the world for 5 minutes, before they react to a 30 second video. Love it! Keep it up

[@frida507]

Yes, always appreciate when they don't waste our time. :)

[@rice2.0yt22]

Have a wonderful day everyone!

[@justincousineau9161]

"Alright, I'm gonna stop right there", famous words

[@jamesrobert2842]

Facts 😂

[@TheBestLife2184]

It's easy to crush the evil Democrats, billionaires & RINOs. Add a dotCom to my handle name, and go to that website. Expect your life to likely hugely change in 10 minutes or less.

[@revisionsbyranmeddennissjo7781]

People in The SKANDINAVIA/sweden have lived in extrem censorship for a very long time. I hope that this will end with an New goverment. The evil democrats need to go.

[@niclaslindman]

@@revisionsbyranmeddennissjo7781 what censorship do you write about are a lot of BS are Start Hold to true Insted in lying 😡

[@juanjuansson]

@@revisionsbyranmeddennissjo7781 bullshit! Why u spreading lies😂

[@Faidros62]

When the film talks about dismantling the defense it talks about the Swedish defense.

[@negativekda8730]

@Björn Gmail när man talar om trollen...

[@elainelundgren]

Well, thats not true. The truth is that Sweden invests more money than in many years to refurbish the military.

[@Robert-fb9wf]

@@elainelundgren the dismantling process referes to what happened from the early 90s to just a few years back. During these years a lot of things happened that have not been reversed and we currently lack abilities that will be extremely costly to take back. The decision to spend significantly more is basically a few months old and will occur with successive increase over a number of years.

[@MrNitrox91]

@Elaine Lundgren Oh please! The current defence budget is not even a tenth of what it was 50 years ago.

[@jossahonnonen]

Elaine Lundgren @elaine You gave a good example of disinformation there, thanks. I am sure that was your intention right?

[@arnljot9030]

20:36 He is talking about the dismantling of the Swedish defence, not the Russian, i'm pretty sure they never dismantled.

[@ravenzyblack]

Nope. There is no way Russia would dismantle their defense systems. If anything, they would strengthen them.

[@datadavis]

The collapse of the soviet union was a large disarmament, although involuntarily. There isn't enough money in russia to even come close to the Soviet military budget anymore, and you who think russia still is a viable potent enemy are disinformed. China is the threat, economically and militarily.

[@Robert-fb9wf]

@@datadavis for Sweden, Russia would still be the major military threat (we are neighbour's after all), not China.

[@tmusic99]

The Russian defense including the nuclear arsenal was in complete disarray after the wall fell. Immediately after the wall fell you got the impression that the main threat was demoralized army personnel profiting on selling nuclear charges to terrorists. Things has improved on that front.

[@erikfren]

4:40, I think you miss understood him. Paraphrasing "It's about getting to loss trust in each and the institutions they rely on"

[@emmanuel1163]

He heard what he wanted to hear

[@RyanForrest1664]

You’ll enjoy this series mate. It’s really really good!

[@JamesonsTravels]

its a really good one. surprisingly interesting. Swedes outdid the Finns on this one.

[@hansoskarsson9985]

@Mark Barks Yes Finland copied the swedish educational system that was working well. But then in Sweden politics took over and f*cked it up while in Finland they stayed on course.

[@benmatthieu6344]

You give good comments Jamesons!

[@justincousineau9161]

I just watched youre other vid on Odins Men, great video there, great video here

[@JamesonsTravels]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Kaffemosterful]

Odins men is a right-wing vigilante bunch of people.

[@onepluszulu6701]

Sweden dismantle of total defense simplified: 800 000 troops to approx. 50 000. Air force from hundreds of assets to around a hundred. Navy the same. Storage of fuel and essentials for the whole population for a year emptied and sold. Protection masks for the whole population destructed. The Civil defense branch of the total defense disband and its civil stores emptied (In that the said protection masks) The Coast artillery fortress's dismantled (Covered the whole east coast of Sweden). 4 million people which had their assigned duty in war planned ahead. Now the same law as then says all citizens of Sweden are to do their duty but the individual planning is gone. In short approx. 90% of Sweden's Total defense is no more. We had at most three Army Corps. Two in war organisation plans and assets for the third in reserve. Now the Army for example have two brigades a third on the way - Sweden build up again.

[@martinorphanides2723]

For a while the stated goal of the Swedish armed forces were no longer to defend the borders, but to be able to carry out limited operations. Sad.

[@nilsingvar7319]

Hilariously enough the parties that dismantled it are now pushing propaganda to make any criticism of their policies to be the same as conspiracies and russian collusion xD Wonder how much taxpayer money went into this propaganda piece.

[@oscarlofgren8583]

Yes we dismantled however, we are building up now in rocket speed :)

[@AN-nt3uv]

About the refugees from Syria one should know, that largest amount of refugees went to neighboring countries as Jordan, Libanon and Turkey. But Russia with its own interests in Europe and Syria tried to attack there and made a larger crisis of a not so big crisis to weaken the open societies. Actually increasing the conflict helped to put more pressure on Europe with the expected refugees. As Russia supports Assad, no Syrian i talked to wished to go to Russia.

[@bjornakebergqvist]

What!! No refugees from Syria to Russia? Is it not the great moral country under Putin saving Crimea from the EU? I am confused now.

[@AN-nt3uv]

@@bjornakebergqvist The ways of the Putin are inscrutable

[@bjornakebergqvist]

@@AN-nt3uv aha that settles it!

[@kampakala1544]

When it comes to Syria, I would blame the countries who supported the rebels. Russia had its own interests and since Syria had been a long time ally of Soviet Union, Russia naturally supported Assad, who happens to be a secular leader unlike many rebels who we do not know almost anything. Without West backed rebels there would never had been any crisis in Syria.

[@teakwondochest3287]

what a load of crap. syrians make up like 1% of the refugees in europe, most are from north africa, central africa and afghanistan. and putin didnt cause the refugee waves, it was the US financed rebels that started the war and caused the people to flee. russia simply helped one side gain the other side, stabilizing the region. I agree that the refugee crises was caused with intent, but not by russians. By who? look a bit south of syria, the guys that control the rotting carcass that is the US

[@arnljot9030]

Love your commentary and the different camera angles.

[@thatmidwestguy7538]

This series was not what I expected from Sweden. Very very interesting, and much more transparent than what we have been getting from our government here in the states as of late.

[@johnnyringo6161]

I love hearing Swedish spoken it's like it's cousin German and papa English trying to talk over each other almost 😆

[@royhayes702]

I know what to do, but it has to happen simultaneously and in a coordinated manner.

[@joedoe4628]

The cold war never ended imo. They just managed to convince their enemies that it had.

[@The_Ballo]

Not sure where you're going with this but Russia isn't communist.

[@AwesomeCrabman]

And still we are in a cold war

[@carloswaltermariano4923]

Greetings from Portugal, thanks for your videos and comments 👍

[@maximilliantrivit151]

Yugoslavia was always prepairing to fight the foreign enemy. So it had a strong army. But no one counted that the enemy could come from within. And the country ended in a bloody civil war. The army simply disolved... And it had no function to protect the land itself...

[@ishitrealbad3039]

same will happen with the EU.

[@AlexEhn]

Great that you looked at it! Not sure if the translation was not clear enough but I think you actually missed the main point they wanted to make. It was not about immigration or divided people. The point was that disinformation is larger part of the modern warfare and since the fall of the Berlin wall we have seen these kind of new disinformation warfare and annexation of Crimea is the most clear example.

[@morlock2200]

as a swede(Someone from sweden), it feels good too see someone else comment and inject thoughts on these subject.

[@Spidey4Christ]

You’re very well spoken. I love hearing your output on world issues, keep up the great work man.

[@roadtovalorexpert]

Lets GOO Jameson, just about half a million subscribers!👌🏻🇺🇸 I've been here since about less then 10k subscribers. Well deserved🙏🇺🇸

[@IronDeth95]

Well spoken, greetings from Sweden!

[@Hampus-ny2oo]

Dude I just watched it after I saw your first video about this. PS you make great content love from Sweden!

[@thexyayxmaker]

Talking about the refuge crisis, the majority of Syrian refugees went to neighbouring countries. A lot of the refugees that came during the crisis were from Africa or Afghanistan. They saw an opening to get to Europe with the Syrian refugee crisis. We have an Afghan refugee living with my family and he saw an opening in 2015 and went for it (he was already a refugee in Iran at the time).

[@Corvinus_swe]

To the list of potential "bad actors" sadly the USA needs to be included. There has been a few cases of foreign militaries entering Swedish Air and waters in the last decade. There has been a case of a suspected Russian submarine, a case of a Russian fighter jet entering Swedish airspace and one case of an American "spy plane" violating Swedish airspace. As a Swede the position between Russia and several American allies (NATO members) feels quite precarious as both sides have shown a disregard for neutral parties whenever they feel it's necessary, regardless of the evidence for such a need.

[@buckybraun535]

But that is why you are all have the opportunity to buy your weapon after conscription?

[@Corvinus_swe]

@@buckybraun535 no we don't, that is actually higly illegal here.

[@ChristheBliz]

@@buckybraun535 That's not the case. Weapons used for hunting are allowed with license and with certified gun locker but other than that you must have super special permit for other guns. Feels quite safe. Most ppl who handle pistols and automatic weapons are in the military or the police and the rest are criminals and as we know; criminals don't obey the law. I've travelled quite alot in Sweden and have only seen an automatic weapon once, a MP5 on a airport police, that kinda made me uncomfortable

[@Robert-fb9wf]

@@buckybraun535 that would be Switzerland, not Sweden :)

[@Bodhisatwa1]

@@ChristheBliz You can get handguns pretty easy if you dont have any felonies on record by just joining a marksman club and apply for a license, shoot a .22 for 6 months. After those 6 months you can own whatever handgun you want (without applying for another license) ranging from .22lr to 50 cal. You need to be an active shooter in the club to keep your permit tho but thats not even a lot of activity, you need to attend practices, not even competitions. When you have "mastered" the handguns by being a competetive shooter you can actually apply for semi automatic rifles, these permits are more rare tho. I live in the very north part of sweden where most people own hunting rifles and most of those also have licenses for handguns but only one I know has semi auto rifles. None of these weapons are allowed for CC tho. You may only have a gun on you/in your car for transportation and the magazine needs to be separated from the weapon in a case while transporting it, other than that it is highly illegal.

[@not0228]

In the segment about disinformation regarding Sweden's refugee policy, every time you paused to speak you repeated the exact same sentiments as the disinformation campaign. Apparently it was working well 😅.. Otherwise great video as usual!

[@jensolsson9666]

Total focus on what the organised ”information” campaign said instead of why it was said and why.

[@Laaax115]

Yes it was striking and very clear to me watching this video how the disinformation have gotten its own roots. Just plant the seed and it will spread far during a long time. I don't know if the translation was off but i felt he missed the point the original video was trying to make.

[@VarvasNukka]

It's a difficult topic that parties on all sides have legitimate concerns over. This is exactly why it is such a good target for polarization from all kinds of nefarious agents. Remember, civil discussion is the best antidote against extremism.

[@not0228]

@@VarvasNukka yes exactly. It's a necessary Moral vs Material debate that has been derailed into a Moral vs Emotional debate by the desinformation campaign. I hope that he sees this somehow.

[@laurentelens4697]

I would have a lot to say about this: sometime "disinformation" means "not to agree with the official (and political) view" ... you know those guy who provides sponsor to (in my country) most journalists or movie project need to exist. On that regard, internet is not a problem but an opportunity: as you easily have access to a whole range of opinions. (When you had only books, I was happy enough to find one whole book on the topic at the library.) And the solution obvious as it is on the learning to manage such a multi-sources environment ... But that do suppose a good level of general education (a good political system indeed). If education is fiasco, well maybe some unofficial perspectives is not such a bad thing... Now I speak about my own country I know (an European country where we had this particular migration on a massive scale and for a long time), I don't pretend to speak about Swede. But don't think you don't get direct pressures, and fake profiles, when you are on the other side. (Well, some are just subsidized wanabe, but sometime they can even receive money from the same source).

[@TheGaggenau]

you are missing the point with the immigrants and the comments on the Italian newspaper. the purpose was to influence the Italian public not the Swedish.

[@folke3071]

As a Swede I love your comments, "who loves immigrants". Now, I know a lot of people from the middle east and eastern africa who are working and are good people. However, there are a LOT of immigrants who just chill out on benefits

[@medb1220]

It's like some of the fellas are saying here: the dismantling being referred to in the video is the dismantling of much of the Swedish military apparatus, at one time among the largest (per capita) in the world, between 1993-2014. The so-called "peace dividend" *cough naive cough*

[@InqWiper]

Naive is the nice interpretation. Treason would be another.

[@datadavis]

Its clearly treason. They will all hang.

[@Vollification]

8:47 Sweden tries to handle it with stuff like this movie. Just cold information. No patriotic bells or whistles, just "this is what is"

[@josephmiller1941]

This is touching too close to home.

[@TheBestLife2184]

It's easy to crush the evil Democrats, billionaires & RINOs. Add a dotCom to my handle name, and go to that website. Expect your life to likely hugely change in 10 minutes or less.

[@opwards]

absolutely. If you listen to the Shawn Ryan show where he interviews a former mexican cartel hunter the connections with china to the cartels now is massive. Put it all together with what we see here and it paints the picture. China actively doing all they can to weaken the western countries. A divided population is easier to control. United we stand. Divided we fall. I dont think as a people we have ever been so divided. On any line possible. We see it here in australia too. China has its hooks so deep into this country it is disgusting. They own most of our natural resources, shit loads of land and big industry, food production and so on. Very easy for them to throw weight around and steer a country which ever way they choose.

[@Cody2nd]

@@opwards I’d say everyone from every country should just rise up together if your against it, no matter where your from!! We could all put a stop to this.

[@opwards]

@@Cody2nd thats great in theory brother but people are so divided that coming together to mount any sort of resistance isnt likely

[@apacketofcrisps3634]

Everything they are talking about is exactly what the EU is already doing to the citizens in europe. They sound as if they are projecting their ''fears'' by accusing a foreign power when they themselves are doing exactly that to their own population and their enemies. Belarus discovered the british, french and czechslovakian secret services were behind the protests last year. Non-linear warfare has been waged since the 50's. Just search 'silent weapons for quiet wars'

[@sevenproxies4255]

I'm Swedish and I always highlight the problems of Swedish migration policy to outsiders. And I get accused of being a "Russian troll" constantly. So for my situation, this video only seems to serve the purpose of inocculating the Swedish government from valid criticism of their policymaking. After all, why adress criticism from your citizens when you can just dismiss all criticism as "foreign cyber influencing attacks"?

[@konradgranqvist8131]

Exakt

[@not0228]

It sounds like your agenda just happen to coincide with that of Russian desinformation campaigns. Do with that information as you will

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@not0228 So what do you suggest we do? Refrain from voicing criticism against politicians who go from being inept to outright corrupt just because our criticism might "serve the russians"? That we should turn a blind eye to politicians who fuck our own countries over, to keep THEM safe from russians? I'm more of the opinion that an enemy in your own midst is far more dangerous than enemies on the outside, and corrput/inept politicians do far more damage to society than cyberattacks from the outside ever will. As a citizen who is forced at gunpoint to finance their crappy policies, I have a right and a duty to speak up and speak out.

[@missundies]

@@sevenproxies4255 forced at gunpoint? I don't know about that, hur? Allt detta är intressant fast jag kommer dö om ca 60 år så jag pallar inte tänka på det, inte som att jag kommer göra någon skillnad, blir det för bull här så flyttar jag. Ingen tvingar en att vara en del av samhället med ett vapen, flytta ut i skogen, bygg en bunker och chilla lide.

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@missundies Tell me, what happens if you refuse to pay taxes?

[@TheMattlockyer]

The point isn’t about wether refugees cause resentment in the host country, it’s that hostile external countries can water the seeds of resentment with targeted disinformation.

[@InqWiper]

They can also cause the crisis and then you have international players that fund and organize these streams of migration.

[@ishitrealbad3039]

10:14 they ended up in sweden, because it's the neo-marxists agenda of modern politicians who belief that the " perfect" civilisation is multi-racial and multi-cultural. Orban explained this agenda pretty well in an interview. SJW and Woke propoganda serves a purpose and an agenda, it's not about " feelings" even though that's what they make it appear to be. It's there to make a grey people, by mixing them together. Because a grey people have no identity, culture, roots or religion and thus they're supposed to be easier to control/govern. But these politicians haven't learned from history, and that is that multi-racial and cultural groups will always end in bloodshed, genocide and eventually a broken peoples who won't know peace for many generations. Post-Soviet countries and middle-eastern countries are a perfect example of this.

[@MysticianLuna_VG]

that pfp though--

[@revolverhands3370]

While in Germany, I asked a colleague why East Germany has not prospered like the West after 20 years of unity. He said when those who know only communism have died off the new generations will take over and do well.

[@29rca]

The commie mentality is messed up. They did a number on on the east germans. The work ethic was not the same after reunification. There was a saying that it takes 2 or 3 east germans to do the work of a west german.

[@RicardoMartins67]

Well said, James!

[@3210hej]

i got a bit diferent feel from what they were saying than you, this segment was more about methods to to influence citizens to the degree that an enemy wont need to deal with a war declaration, for example the part about imigration, the main goal was not to discuss the imigration, but rather as an example of how an dividing topic can be used to in the italy example paint an country in bad light and in that way change your own politics. but it can also be used to split an people, something that can be seen in swedish politics, it is at the point that there basicly are two camps, those for free imigration and those against it. and the debate climate is turned up to the point where not politicaly active voters can percive it as either you have free imigration, or if you dont vote for those parties the gas chambers will turn on straight away. but they did not talk about how imigrantion will affect the country, but ratherhow it can be used by na enemy to grow mistrust towards the country. the disasembly of the defence is a question that is debated, but it is more in interested groups, many people agree that the old defence had a lot of points that needed upgrading to work well in that time(an example: part of the dismantling was getting rid of steam locomotives for use in case of war). but there is a lot of debate about that when the dismanteling begun they expected ~10 years of warning when an enemy would potentialy threten sweden, so there would be time to rebuild. the kind of warning like georgia and crimea.

[@kjellandersson4416]

Yeah i got That feel to

[@ericthered760]

The Italy example is where this (Swedish-government-produced) program demonstrates some bias. I call it the "white hat-black hat" syndrome. The Swedish government had decided to take in the refugees (controversial, but their call), the media portrays them as the "white hats" = good guys. The La Stampa reporter (BTW, LaStampa is a leftist publication) says comments critical of migrants and Sweden showed up in her on-line articles. This program portrays them as the "black hats" = bad guys. Remember that Italy was (and still is) undergoing its own migration crisis. The conclusion the Swedish government (through this program) wants you to draw is that those who criticize it (in this case, on immigration) are the guys wearing the black hats.

[@3210hej]

@@ericthered760 the thing is that the comments was not on articles regarding imigration, as soon as there was mention of sweden in the title the comments appeared, as in the example about abba reunification. i am well aware of the debate regarding swedens imigration, but in thi case the program use it as an example of the method of saing something often leads to it becomeing the "truth" even tho it may not be fully true. so the comments were not to debate wether imigration is bad, but rather to make sweden, with large imigration, look bad. even tho the article was not related, also it was profiles that show signs of being fake.

[@frespe8230]

12:30 Perfectly explained, Jameson.

[@erikmelander5747]

They actually said: that this causes people to trust less in leadership, one another and institutions.

[@Crmsnraider]

this

[@ishitrealbad3039]

good

[@sylviabaker1875]

Jameson god bless you my friend I respect all you do the information on ours as well as allies I respect all active and retired military may your travels be safe and free of idiots

[@kystars]

in 1996 I met Paul Tibbets, pilot of the Atomic bomb on Hiroshima. He was a tough man. We met at the Air Force base. seeing that atomic bomb blast reminded me of it. Thanks for all your videos you do a great job on so many topics. I have a few German friends that told me there was and still is some issues since the 2 countries were put back together. East Germany is a more poor area compared to the former West Germany. That sort of thing, but there doesn't seem to be any major issues.

[@FadeStrategy]

So far 13 minutes in and you are right about everything you are saying about the situation in Sweden!

[@erikharaldsson6068]

Sweden has done more to weaken themselves in the past couple decades than the Chinese or Russians ever could have hoped for. Just in a year or two around 2015 they brought/let in around a million Muslims from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. In the surrounding years they did very similar. Now they've brought them in in such quantity that they're probably something like 1/8th of the population having 5 and 6 children to the average Swedish... something around 1. nothing children average. Unless that was disinformation that I could have easily advised against, diversity is what will have killed Sweden and most of the rest of the Western World as well. Additionally... As for the disinformation thing. Yes communist China stops information they don't want and that's sometimes bad. Stopping bad information is only bad when those deciding what is unallowable are doing it for their own benefit rather than legitimately for the benefit of their people. Because people are so flawed and power corrupts... absolute power corrupts absolutely, so on and so forth. The more power 99% of people get the more they want and the worse of a moral person they become. Communism is a pile of ideas thrown together to form and ideology. Simply because that ideology or pile of ideas doesn't work to achieve what they wanted that does not indicate that all the ideas on the pile are bad or that they can't be appropriated for other, even beneficial outcomes in other circumstances. To think so is common and is a tragic flaw in human perception.

[@tamasmolnar7591]

It's good to see when the government is in something like this, because if you just tell people that how dangerous things could happen just by a cyber attack they don't believe it... maybe now after watching this. Btw I don't really like reaction videos, but the value you put to it is invaluable, you make this platform better with your videos, thank you!

[@datadavis]

We dont need cyber attacks, our politicians are so fucked in the head that they put state secrets and government payrolls on a foreign server, which all was compromised within weeks. And the moron who was responsible got an even higher paid job afterwards. They are traitors and need to be prosecuted as such.

[@TheMokaKiller]

@@datadavis Tell me more. Where?

[@evanburgess8428]

What a great run down. Very good analysis that lots of people are missing.

[@bigtim3060]

04:19 I think you misunderstood the subtitles here. He's saying that the goal of these syberattacks is to get people to have less trust in the institutions that govern our everyday life, not vice versa like you said. They are talking about dividing a nation by making people put less trust in it, not dividing a nation by making everyone come together and rally behind the flag and government, like you seemd to understand it as. Just clearing up a small misunderstanding, great video otherwise👍

[@datadavis]

Our politicians are incompetent enough to lose all our confidence all by themselves.

[@bigtim3060]

@@datadavis we vote our politicians into office, therefore them being in that place of power is our fault. The same goes for if they are incompetent. And just becouse a politician is seen as incompetent doesn't mean that there won't be any foreign and/or destructive powers influencing normal peoples perseption of the situation. Quite on the contrary, a incompetent politician, no matter if (s)he has good or bad ideas will likely make it easier to affect the population and/or spread a narrative which is poor for the country as a whole.

[@peterpriebe4730]

@@datadavis Well David, I think you should run for office, any office in your home town. Our strength is that we have competent civil servants who do their job independent an efficiently after they hot guidelines from the politicians.

[@emmanuel1163]

It seemed intentional.

[@danstenberg760]

In the refugee crisis in 2015 they went to Sweden because of the benefits they get here. They seeked Asylum here and they had to go to places So called EKB camps/buildings . And when they had come to Sweden they phone up friends at home or were they came from and said to them come her and live a calm life here and get $ and food and a roof over you head.

[@JamesonsTravels]

All about new citizens. Citizens but not people who want to change the society to something akin to what they left for a reason.

[@ravenzyblack]

Jamesons Travels- Refugees aren’t Immigrants. If given the opportunity they would love to go back to their homeland. They have no love or loyalty to the land they are refugees in. They become citizens for more benefits and access to other Western/European countries with even more benefits.

[@magnuslindgren3390]

Love your videos! Spend way too much time on your channel. Any plans to make video about the norwegian military? FSK or KJK? Or maybe about the homeguard that we got. (Civilians that do military duty 1 week a year until the age of 44) Been great to hear your oppinions and points of view about this. - former firefighter in the royal norwegian airforce.

[@francisschuessler]

Just finished MCT. Glad to be back to your videos

[@nahiag]

Great video, I went though a shorter version of this education a year ago.

[@ishitrealbad3039]

11:58 problem is that open-borders together with a wellfare estate does not produce intergrated migrants, simple as.

[@thebadness6217]

man your setup keeps getting better and better. It's getting real fancy in your "react room" lmao.

[@pjukas]

A very small portion comes to Sweden and Europe, 90% of the refugees flee to neighboring countries. The total number are massive so even a small portion of that number is still a large number.

[@eiddi]

not sure if you comment is real are you a bot ? can you show me a spreadsheed of this information from a goverment site. or is this just your belive?

[@InqWiper]

@@eiddi What part do you not believe? That most of the migrants are in neighboring countries?

[@davidr1676]

Sounding conspiratorial is one of the first steps to realizing that even if our neighbors are good that somewhere there is not just one small conspiracy but hundreds if not thousands swirling around us. Can't think too much about such things as we are mostly helpless as humans, especially the mortal type.

[@marcjansson1039]

Refugees ended up in Sweden because they wanted to come here. Syria when it fell into its civil war wasnt some backwards country. Its university was the top of the whole region. Most people lived fairly westernized lives with swimming pools, iPhones and xboxes. I did a study now with a scientist in this subject and most came here firstly because they had learned of Swedens longlasting peace and neutrality. Second part was the amount of rights considering their children, that they are allowed schools, healthcare and what not. Ive personally met a ton. They are doctors, buisnessmen and whatnot. The whole "they wont send their best" is kinda false here, its everyone fleeing a ever growing war of extremism which the regular middleclass syrian family didnt want to be apart of. Their middleclass and upperclass is extremely similar to the European and generally western one.

[@72tadrian65]

I think of this guy as a wise grandfather, then think "Oh shit Im like the same age!"...

[@mattiaslindgren8154]

Just to compare in 2015, the influx of migrants we recieved in e.g Södertälje more than the US recieved and the mayoir were invited to the Obama administration to talk about it. The naive thing is that we did lack the strategy to assimilate the refugees. There has been a major change and we are thankfully re arming the country and raising the awareness.

[@JohnDoe-gf5he]

You can't assimilate muslims you bum. Your country is fucked and has passed the point of no return.

[@AwesomeCrabman]

They wanna get rid of Europeans, actually white people in general

[@ishitrealbad3039]

lol imagine thinking you can assimilate fortune seekers...

[@jameslynch7826]

This should be shown in all local government and the like. It’s a balanced assessment of the risks of complacency especially in the digital age. Thanks again for this.

[@almister]

Millions of Syrians went to Lebanon fyi, problem is there are so many proxy wars happening in those countries that soon the whole middle east will be on the move. A solution would be to not have these proxy wars or to not use oil but that is not going to happen. I think so many went to Sweden and Germany ( too many) because countries like mine (England) refused to take hardly any although we bombed Syria. Another reason Mr Jameson would be that Turkey pushed the refugees into Greece because they hate Greece. Greece got overloaded and so the refugees kept going.

[@emmettfitz-hume9408]

The USA is in a gray area, with regards to war and conflict, right now. The Gray Are they speak of sounds like what the Chinese military calls 'All-Encompassing War'.

[@taylorsowle8209]

Really makes you think more about the “virus” and elections. You start dividing people with who they vote. If they wear a mask or not, or three. I try to not consume the news anymore. I just try to be prepared and help others.

[@taylorsowle8209]

@Twofigo so we start our own news network and pump fake stories of badass shit America is doing haha. And that everyone’s super close and has no hate. That these are the “golden times” haha works with hate why not try the other way.

[@AtroFear]

@@taylorsowle8209 Well, I hope you didn't imply that the virus doesn't exist by putting it in quotations. That being said, the response to the virus is really out of order and proportions. The virus is nowhere near as deadly to warrant such a dramatic response from the governments. I really just think that early governments panicked and the rest followed suit and here we are. But there are alot of stupid shit the governments are suggesting right now and the making of laws that outright contradict the individual rights and freedoms we are meant to have. I'm sorry, but a pandemic should never EVER trump our fundamental rights. There is a very specific reason that rights such as freedom of speech exists, to prevent tyrannical governments which will cause astronomically more deaths than the current pandemic ever hope to achieve.

[@frida507]

@Twofigo Exactly. Causing division and distrust is the goal.

[@thomass4840]

Scary how much this applies to us stateside, even though its a Swedish production.

[@Gachmara]

About the refugees, most refugees are in the closest countries, for example a hundred thousands to millions of refugees from Syria are in Turkey.

[@Cheapthrill1979]

Yup, and Sweden are kind hearted people.

[@Luredreier]

17:40 Germany used to be several hundreds of countries just a couple of ago. The idea of a single German people wasn't really much of a thing before the 1800s if I don't remember wrong. And even after that there's been quite a few changes there. And there's a lot of differences. The main thing that probably unified the country was the reformations use of a new german bible using elements of different german languages to try to forge one understandable to everyone. That said, there then was the religious wars between protestants and catholics...

[@Lobos222]

04:19 Nordic people dont view their government as a potential threat. For example, when crises hit, I dont ask myself if the government will go "overboard", but if they can handle it. The notion of cooperation is very strong in Nordic nations. We dont view the government as something "separate" because "we" are the government. Most people that go into politics in Scandinavia are not payed shills because we dont have such funding openings, while at the same time there is a dualistic aspect and prestige towards making your own country greater. Be it defending it or creating jobs for actual citizens.

[@MatthewWilson83]

I think they said it’s about undermining the leadership, make people trust each other less, and the institutions they rely on. Not make them rely on the institutions.

[@JamesonsTravels]

most pols are the dumb, dorky or rich kids in school. Never the brightest. Control freaks generally. Kind hearts exists but dont last long.

[@InqWiper]

@@JamesonsTravels Do you remove comments on your videos or is in KZbin?

[@reallivebluescat]

10:30 the thing to understand about refugees coming to a country far away from their home, is that those are a relative minority to all the people that didnt get out, or ended up in countries near their origin. Its easy to say " they are all coming here" (i know you werent saying that in this video) when most of the people fleeing a warzone for example, dont. its a matter of perspective. i also think when it comes to "societies not being accepting to migrants" is something that became more prevalent after the rise of the nationstates - when the ideas of "national identities" where becoming more congealed -when your were taught to think about yourself as a "swede", or "italian" or "american" etc. And when talking about "assimilation" into a new society its not just a matter of cost. But also, what these new people can bring to a new society. For example , immigrants from hispanic countries coming into the US is largely a big part of the national economy. maybe alot of them part of an underclass (and thats another discussion). But i think this is another form of "grey area". Good or bad. My point is, that refugees arent just a simple matter of "cost", like i said. :)

[@Oddball_E8]

As for the refugee crisis... the vast majority of them actually went to middle eastern countries. But the ones that came to Sweden were essentially shipped through Europe because the other countries wouldn't take them and they knew Sweden had "friendlier" immigration laws.

[@sophial7507]

I felt the need to mention that the majority of refugees actually goes to neighboring countries, you talked about it early in the video. I was actually surprised about how many people those countries take in.

[@eddsson]

Exactly! JT seem to (sort of ironic considering the video) believe the misinformation?

[@LegendofLaw]

Thanks for breaking down common sense ideas and thoughts. You have a knack for explaining the truth without offending paper skinned sjws.

[@Rabidus289]

So after the wall fell, not many people talk about this but there are documentaries on it. The state run factories, that for instance built motorcycles that nobody wanted, now had to be privatised, and huge amounts of people lost their jobs and all sorts of securities. Wanna go to the DDR store with 1 type of jam, or the super market with 10 types of jam?

[@jensolsson9666]

Between 1821-1930 1.2 million people from Sweden emigrated to US. That was 1/5 of the population of Sweden at that time,

[@mattekumlin8550]

as shootings, explosions, stabbings, murders, humiliation, threats of violence and gross humiliation and daily rapes (is this what you call the gray zone) and the war that "comes" to Sweden, because if it is, it is already here and has been here the last 15 20 years

[@StarWarsNerden]

The reason they come to Sweden is that our country has a reputation in the middle east where if you go there you get everything on a silver plate. Cars, money, apartments and the only thing you have to do is to go there and seek asylum. Also the its not true that the neigboring countries around syria dident take refugees. They took the most refugees. ( sorry for my english )

[@Real11BangBang]

I Spent some time in Syria around those refugee camps. They are daesh hot spots.

[@henrikl4244]

@@Real11BangBang That's sadly. When you put people in this camps then the risk of them geting radicalsarade is high. Poor education and no future prospects can harm several generations. That's not only bad for that area, its bad for us all.

[@suokkos]

Middle East has long history keeping refugees in camps instead of allow them residency and citizenship potential. This has been used as political pressure tool making a frozen conflict going on for decades. I suspect their current governments cannot do anything better without destroying their long standing political position.

[@bluelapiz6565]

Ok, real talk fellas. Weird Al's "Amish Paradise", is much better than "Gangsta's Paradise"

[@WellWisdom.]

That it is.

[@mourlyvold7655]

Though nothing will ever beat the original, Stevie Wonder's Past Time Paradise. As we all know...

[@huiarama]

The 5 minute mark, you mentioned the rhetoric, disinformation aspect you might know as 'Hybrid Warfare'. Its not a new thing, the British Empire had done this for centuries. Divide and rule. There was a British comedy of the 1980s that covered te topic that went viral a few years ago under the title: 'Sir Humphrey explains BREXIT'. I recommend you have a look. Satire is a form of context....

[@Nipponing]

Sweden take so many immigrants because it's so easy to get money etc here, and if you speak up against any problems you get punished and silenced. You get a ton of privilege.

[@bjorneriksson6480]

The concept "Grey area" describes swedish politicians and media perfectly! I live in Sweden and see how they use Russia as a distraction from domestic issues, they learned quickly from the USA.

[@nicolaebacrau6703]

9:57 The situation is simple. Refugees fled to their liberators. Liberators were US and Europe. US didn't want them, so Europe had to take them. Refugees didn't just end up in Sweden. Greece, Germany, Belgium was full of them. Many European countries also rejected refugees, so they had to go wherever they could. Obviously they preferred to flee to the wealthier countries, not to the poorest.

[@Nipponing]

They are supposed to go to the closest safest country to not be too much for the country to handle.

[@nickgamingmusic9911]

I hope to see the continuation of this video series and the reactions! 4:45 Firm robust foundations in general education and critical thinking helps the populace be able to take, handle and want the honest truth. Being heavily secular and using logic and critical thinking towards all and any information received. Something I unfortunately feel the US is extremely poor at with its systemic large variations in quality of education around the nation. 8:10 Answer: Education. Limiting information is not a good answer; letting "freedom" of (dis)information go wild without doing anything about it is also not an option - but can indirectly be at least minimized through education. Education quality really needs to step up all around the world including Sweden; a lot of the school curriculum could be taken out and replaced with more - actual - real life use including critical thinking (At least in Sweden this is to some degree happening but alas too late for those around My generation Pre-mid Internet era). This is obviously an issue that is not exclusive to the US but today's America is a good example of how bad things can go when left unchecked and with lack of basic same-quality education to keep the populace on an even field. Ie. No person should ever believe that the earth is flat - it's a fundamental educational flaw. America's "freedom" and institutional skepticism is in a way its' own greatest enemy. Add in to this soup all of the conspiracies from foreign actors along with domestic actors that often for pure monetary gain spread these lies while not believing in them themselves; playing off of peoples misinformation and misunderstandings; This includes "News" shows. 17:30 The wall was up for over a generation which even to this day has consequences where you can see clear differences in the regions. There exist entire documentaries on just how different the East is treated compared to the West. If a similar situation were to occur today; I believe It would Either be Less of a difference than it was back then; Or a magnitude worse - depending on how limiting either side is with their informational restrictions through the internet, if any. For anyone that can't comprehend how extensively deep this problem goes into the psyche, I advise checking out some of the stories of former conspiracy followers to get a glimpse of just how detached people are able to be from reality through simple misinformation and lack of critical as well as logical thinking. For anyone feeling this is a rant on America; well it is..but obviously Sweden has its' own share of problems just as any nation does; the US also has a lot of things I wish other countries would follow or take inspiration from more than they already have. Also I Want and Believe that America can do better if it would just stop shooting itself in the foot. No link in a nations defense is as weak or strong as the population itself.

[@TheN30M]

I do not think this video was about immigration, it was more used as a point to show when other countries through socialmedia tries to create opinion. This video as i understood it, was about the silent war where countries tries to infiltrate the opinions of citizens

[@solowing1840]

As a Ukrainian, I've had a lot of strong deja vu's through the whole video.

[@TheGaggenau]

yes, it´s the scenario that happened to Ukraine that Sweden is afraid for. the invasion of Crimea was the first big conflict that started with grey area warfare. and still, Russia is continuing using grey area methods against ukraine.

[@effexon]

In other channel they mentioned, that economic "warfare", works as destabilization and causing chaos. Eg. flood foregin market with super cheap food, to destabilize domestic production, and endanger food production. Pretty critical aspect of society if other side plans to isolate that country then politically (with skillful diplomacy in UN etc).

[@maartineriksson]

A bit of perspective of the 2015 refugee crisis - Germany and Sweden went ahead of other European countries with a very accepting attitude. Since many countries were sceptical, Germany and Sweden did what they thought they had to do, and at the same time show the rest it could be done. BUT, many other European countries never went along, but instead shut the borders. If they all just did their part, there wouldn't have been a "crisis", because the numbers of refugees in every country would've been more managable.

[@domnicclassi3823]

No one should go to war, until the leaders that declared the war have been in the ring with one another. There is no reason to fight each other, when it's a few people starting and funding and getting rich from the never-ending fight.

[@InqWiper]

The leaders are usually evil people tricking good people to kill each other.

[@quendoo8514]

4:36 he is saying "The purpose [...] is to undermine confidence for the state leadership, to get people to trust each other less and the institutions they rely on ...". The translation isnt great but he is saying that the people trusting the institutions less due to interference is problematic as they rely on the institutions for everyday life.

[@frida507]

No, that's not it. But a society with low levels o trust is weaker and less efficient in many ways. Especially when a crisis occurs. It's also a matter of trust between people.

[@LtPepe]

I'm a german Speaker, and swedish Sounds Like a Drink Guy with accend, never Heard before

[@allezoo8181]

The german language is the worst and ugliest language out there

[@LtPepe]

@@allezoo8181 its one of the hardest thats true, but we dont speak Like Hitler man, more Like african or Something, since 1 Out of 4 is Not a german for at least 2 generation

[@zoom5024]

In my ears German sounds like Danish but with a smaller potato in their mouth compared to the danes.

[@LtPepe]

@@zoom5024 Well Like danish switzer dutch Austria and so in its all German with some changes

[@zoom5024]

@@LtPepe What i mean is the rest of the northern countries doesnt have the throathy sounds like german, except for Denmark.

[@ignrey]

The norse people are always cold and honest about serious things. I'm certified ethical hacker, sometimes people says I'm paranoic because the way i speak about some things. But most of them don't know how fragile is the "cyber world".

[@davidkornback3013]

Just so you know Jameson, about 800000-1000000 Swedish people emigrated during 1820-1900 to the US. We suffered harsh winters, with no lifestock or grain, which resolved with people starving, and ultimatley leaving... And they had heard of the promised land, and ventured west. Today there is estimatly 13 million Swedish decendants in the US, much of those reside in the north eastern part of the US. Funny, a country with 10 million population at present day "Sweden", at the time of 1820 we hade 4-5 million. "might be wrong regarding the numbers at 1820". Our decendants out reach us in numbers. Best regards David Former Swedish Armed Forces, Amfibiebattaljon Berga.

[@nossnotna2841]

As a swede I had no idea this kind of tension existed, im ready to die for my country if anything escelates

[@steen275]

Even if you have to fight against migrants in your own country that gives birth x5 faster than ethnic Swedes

[@Gooseswe]

Thx for The great chanel. Im from sweden and they are talking about The dismantling of swedens millitary. Im sure no country needs to weaken anything here. What ever country that decides to invade could just walk in to Stockholm and take the capitol without much recistens

[@mikaelwidlund4123]

Yeah we can clearly see it in some cases of politic agendas where many individuals have almost leaned their ideological views to extremism or Stalin/Lenin level communism. That without even knowing it. This is a product of external influence coming from someone.. somewhere, with a distinct purpose. Often the individual itself is not aware of it.. The individual just feels that this is the "best" way to think, live and act. @Jameson Travels

[@craykard8325]

Pretty straight forward and candid.

[@speeder4126]

8:57 - "Esse non videri" - This is the family Wallenberg's motto... Says a lot. Controls pretty much the telecom infrastructure in Sweden.

[@OIMACTTA_AUJW]

This is possibly your best video, I love your perspective and breakdown. Not taking a position on either side shows you have a great understanding of true journalism. Facts and perspective of both sides of a argument. Well done keep it up.

[@ubermorse]

The quote is "undermine confidence for the state leadership, to get people to trust each other less AND the institutions that they rely on for their everyday life". Swedes do trust their institutions and should continue to do so, that is the hole point. Not the Alex Jones take on institutions.