War Expert Dismantles Joe Rogan’s Claim of a Palestinian Genocide

[@jiggajewjay]

Finally someone telling it like it is

[@malikzakir9224]

Hamas is Mossad operatives. Problem, reaction, solution. This is chess not checkers... do you play.

[@matthickman3492]

Is that why they bomb humanitarian aid?

[@ZakariaBouzid-ze8ig]

Bombing hospital wow what a way to minimize casualty insane how peaple buy this

[@whatwhat3432523]

​@@ZakariaBouzid-ze8igWhen the hospital is the headquarter of Hamas thats what happens. I have seen with my own eyes Hamas using ambulances for troop transport. Hamas only have one goal, as many civilians dead as possible. So far the amount of deaths isnt even close to the 39 000 actual civilians killed the first 3 weeks of operation freedom just in baghdad. Where they also tried to minimize the amount of civilian deaths, in a much larger area, where the enemy didnt put civilians in harms way.

[@user-ow6zf9oy1n]

Yes!!! Thank you for this.

[@brett9382]

Crazy how many people in the comments dont know that most casualties in war are civilians, really shows how good we have it that we dont know this. War really is the worst thing on earth.

[@Dynelegacy]

And how many people dont know the meaning of the word casualty XD

[@tommoore2012]

Considering that 70% of Palestinians (at least from what I heard) support Hamas that by extension makes them part of the opposition against Israel and aren't on the side-lines unfairly caught up in the conflict.

[@OpenWorldGamer-]

war is what allows massive progress of civilization , it's built in humanity lol

[@mansd5131]

@@tommoore2012Sooooo, by your logic, 7th of October is fine, because practically every citizen over the age of 18 should serve in IDF, or is in reserves, meaning that except for the 14 kids that were killed, all others were legit military targets.

[@theexpert758]

​@mansd5131 people are so dumb about war. No civilians should be killed. Jesus preaches peace not war.

[@Adam-uk5uk]

If you can't believe Hamas then...

[@user-de6qh9hg2d]

Lol

[@jamieabbott6728]

There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.

[@jamieabbott6728]

There’s a big difference between a lawless terrorist organization and a modern democratic nations military force. So yes. Don’t believe anything hamas says but Israel is probably pretty close to the right numbers. And Hamas also does not distinguish between civilians being killed by the estimated 2,500 terrorist rocket malfunctions that land inside Gaza.

[@omarsaeznavarrete9253]

when it was the PLO it use to be the same they use do the same ways ...but many dont know...

[@Adam-uk5uk]

@@omarsaeznavarrete9253 PLO , Hamas, Isis, Al Qaeda... They are all the same. They just split the names so it harder to point a finger at whom to blame for whatever atrocity is committed at the time

[@Hetzerg]

So basically according to this war expert, if the number of civilians killed is higher than the soldiers killed, it is normal.

[@florin604]

In urban combat

[@CocoCrispy_]

In Urban combat, plus the Gaza strip is one of the most densly populated spots on the planet. Plus civilians cant leave

[@thejakefort]

He’s just stating wartime facts and it’s brutal but the numbers are the same as a lot of other similar events in history it’s still terrible tho

[@thejakefort]

@@CocoCrispy_ which is horrible I totally get the fear is if they leave they’ll lose it forever but they’re protesting and trying to win the minds of Americans where Americans do not feel a loyalty to land I was just told I was white and I stole all the land. So Americans don’t rlly understand why they’re not leaving or why Egypt hasn’t opened the doors like we did Mexico

[@tenxenu7730]

If you start a sentence with “it’s horrible” and “it’s tragic”, the subject of the sentence and the action being described is legitimatized and can be brushed off. Israeli Hasbara has evolved to zero effort now. It’s what happens when you can’t explain an occupation’s actions faster than it can be publicized.

[@zmanjon1]

If they refused to leave 15 mile battle field by now, they are not civilians.

[@Angel-vb5ot]

They never were.

[@zontune6257]

​@@Angel-vb5otChildren are not civilians?

[@zontune6257]

How can u say that when gaza at this point is entirely a battle feild

[@Angel-vb5ot]

@@zontune6257 According to Palestinians, all Israelis are enemy combatants, including infants. Listen to their speeches and interviews. They state, outright, there are no "innocents."

[@Angel-vb5ot]

@@zontune6257 Also, anyone 13 or older can become a member of Hamas. They claim Israel puts Pal children in prison, but what they don't ever confess is that they've used those "children" as terrorists. There are no Pals in prison, just for being Pals.

[@northwestgardener5076]

Hamas isn't exactly what we would call a good source of information.

[@Truth.shall.pravil]

Neither is the Israeli government

[@pazi-]

Israel is ​@@Truth.shall.pravil

[@Truth.shall.pravil]

@@pazi-I’m not gonna go into a long explanation about the lies, What about the accusations they made about 40 babies getting beheaded?

[@ervingjohnson409]

​@Truth.shall.pravil that was proven but media covered it bc they suport hamas

[@Truth.shall.pravil]

what happened to Israeli spokesperson eylon levy? Why did he get suspended

[@vedarovski4110]

"Very normal ratio "for middle east"." Why do we have another ratio for middle east?

[@EcnalKcin]

It is normal to classify information by region. Did you not know that? Also, it is wrong from what I can tell. It is actually a very good ratio. Both the US and Russia had worse ratios for Iraq and Afghanistan respectively. Israel is actually doing better than average.

[@muhammadabdulrafay4623]

Because they are Racists! Just say it Like it is.

[@PIOVRAME]

​@@muhammadabdulrafay4623stop playing the victim card, it doesn't work no more

[@HPgraffitiUL]

because they fight in civilian clothing

[@yoyepo91]

because they use their civilians as bullet sponges

[@teshkuti1722]

Please do not call this dude a war expert

[@ChukwubuDike]

He didn't say he was, he's stating statistics. Anyone that can read and has a tea spoon of brain can understand this.

[@teshkuti1722]

“War expert dismantled Joe Rogan claim” that is what the video says

[@Ben-nf7it]

​@@teshkuti1722 you new to the internet? There's this crazy thing called click bait, and you dove right on it

[@teshkuti1722]

@@Ben-nf7it yes it might be click bait. I know Coleman is doing the Zionist propaganda

[@andrewspencer6546]

Justifying killing civilians is crazy

[@zacharyphilbeck8650]

No ones justifying anything lmao but this is war and people die in war, including civilians

[@andrewspencer6546]

@@zacharyphilbeck8650 "no one's justifying it" followed up immediately by a statement justifying is hilarious

[@DON-lv2pd]

​@@zacharyphilbeck8650do you realised whatchu saying?

[@JakeyOhsogood]

He's mearly making an observation of the truth of the statistics from both sides and drawing a distinction between the two witihin the context of a specific conversation. If you ACTUALLY think he's justifying anything that's entirely your own fault and bias. You are failing to be objective or truthful.

[@ido1234i]

He says that if Hamas started a war and Israel has the right and obligation to defeat hamas and restore balance in the middle east, unfortunately civilians would die during this war. If It still does not make sense then it's your problem.

[@delenehuntington4192]

There's never been a war where the loser refuses to surrender, but insists the other side stops fighting.

[@TheDenizxo]

Yes we saw this in Afghanistan 😢

[@sunseeker9581]

You never heard of a ceasefire?

[@sunseeker9581]

Vietnam. Ukraine Russia. Get a history lesson

[@erinjh89]

People say anything just to talk!!! 😂😂

[@YG-kk4ey]

​@@sunseeker9581not when they were the ones who started the war.

[@Wolfenstein69924]

His name is Coleman Hughes and he does not refer to himself as a “war expert”.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

Yeah I did a double take with that title. I agree with everything Coleman says in this video but he isn't a war expert

[@alexdarcydestsimon3767]

Most of the people who pretend are of very little value. He truly uses his brain. That's all that matter.

[@phenomcollege4188]

​​@@alexdarcydestsimon3767using his Brain? Are some of those 15,000 children killed militants? If he says 19,000 civilians have been killed, does it then mean that only 4,000 civilian women and men have been killed. This is not how to use your brain. Maybe he wants to be paid for propaganda. Reflect on his concluding statement and you will see his bias

[@goldencalf5144]

Yeah, his formal title is I$rael War Crime Apologist.

[@TheCaputalRa]

nevermind what he is he telling the truth

[@andyvonbourske6405]

being a veteran it enrages me when i hear bullshit like " Israel has the most moral military in the world ". the nerve they have to say such things.

[@user-vy6gy6pw9m]

So how ,any civilians have you seen killed?

[@sharonrubaszewski5584]

I totally agree with you. War is war

[@jecs2123]

They go out of their way more than the United States or other militaries.

[@jecs2123]

Well, if their neighbors would stop attacking them, there would not be all the deaths. But Hamas, Hezbolla, and other radical groups and countries never learn. Israel will defend itself.

[@Iron-Lion-Zion]

Where did you fight, veteran?

[@joeythegypsy]

Why do they destroy crops and water sources if they're not targeting civilians? I'm neutral. I'm not on either side. But that doesn't mean I'm willing to ignore reality.

[@rys2754]

You're not neutral if you repeat propaganda instead of checking facts.

[@JakeyOhsogood]

"I'm not on either side" proceeds to spew a terrorist orgs rhetoric without question. 😂

[@motameus1]

If you can find any reputable evidence that this is actually happening

[@muhajerhassan]

@@rys2754It's happening that's the truth

[@darkhorizonifyable]

​@@rys2754 idk about crops but israel has been open about shutting off water. And you have to assume their smart enough to know it would make the innocent suffer disproportionately

[@parisvale2561]

Never seen a Hamas soldier with a gun on the news

[@izzieb.2926]

Because the news doesn't show the whole story. We KNOW they have guns.

[@OpenWorldGamer-]

right, why would they show that hmm, only the kids and women right

[@parisvale2561]

@@OpenWorldGamer- u telling me a Israel soldier would post themselves playing in playgrounds and smashing toys looting houses but not show off that footage?

[@markleeben]

​@@parisvale2561Bro's just making shit up lmao

[@parisvale2561]

@@markleeben U must of missed it fella

[@user-bv1ni6kc8s]

Joe showing his true colors .

[@Just_logic]

JOE IS SHOWING RET OF THE WORLD COLOR

[@michaelvincken6018]

In the political maze, morals often fade as people blindly echo lies without grasping their meaning

[@joeseppy949]

True colors of questioning the TV? Get real. Another bot “user xxxxxx”.

[@MOR.LOV.AMSTERDAM]

One of the dumbest guys Joe had on his podcast in ages

[@Malthusia]

False. Stephen Meyer.

[@ingwiafraujaz3126]

Nothing dumb about stating statistics. They are what they are. You just proved you have no comprehension skills. He didn't make any argument, just an observation.

[@ffk2385]

Why?

[@geraldhowse8597]

Because he's citing published figures, makes him dumb. So are you embarrassed?

[@OpenWorldGamer-]

what is your argument, he dumb you are smart?, lmao

[@Lee-lu2vi]

We're talking about more than 15k kids, what a stupid speech

[@codeWithJudah]

that number is not true, its made up by hamas

[@Jackssw]

Where did you get that number from?

[@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation]

250k kids died in Ethiopia. I don't think it's stupid it's just facts and it's sad

[@Lee-lu2vi]

@@Jackssw from Hind, the little girl who's been murdered

[@Lee-lu2vi]

@@Oh-God-Of-All-Creation kids are kids whatever their ethnicity

[@grammaurai6843]

They also count anyone under the age of 20 as "children," but males are 14 and up are allowed to participate in Hamas. If you look at numbers for ONLY 14 and under, less than 7% of casualties are children. In urban warfare that's a ridiculously low.

[@nadaissa1969]

Soo your saying on the 7th that most of those people above 14 are of military age , so now tell me the new numbers for the civilians if that's how you condone how things are. Just remember what's good for some should be good for others

[@grammaurai6843]

@@nadaissa1969 I'm saying that, since Hamas does not officially distinguish between "civilians" and "combatants" because Hamas is a terror organization and not a state militia, it's misleading to include all military-age males in the lists of civilian casualties. By that logic it's *always* a war crime to attack any terror organization because they're not technically state militias. Israel, however, does distinguish between uniformed military personnel, because, despite what some would like to believe, Israel has an officially recognized state militia rather than a terror organization. Therefore the *civilians* who were purposely targeted for r*pe, b-heading, evisceration, sanguination, and old-fashioned gunshot deaths were civilian homicides.

[@ivangoran4461]

Can`t wait to see people like you give some answers to God. It will be fun.

[@jimbishop8667]

@@ivangoran4461 When making a statement of such grave and macabre consequence it would seem important to say who among the commenters you are talking about!

[@TrevJ91]

Wait so all males 14 and up just automatically get lumped in with Hamas bcuz they’re at a certain age? Even tho just bcuz they’re 14 doesn’t mean they’re necessarily apart of Hamas? You really are shilling hard for the Zionists

[@brendonw2154]

This is not a “war expert” His name is Coleman Hugh’s. He is a very smart guy with a great podcast and has some high levers education none of which has to do with war or geopolitics. I respect most of his opinions and what he has to say but stop with this clickbait BS. Edit: level. And to everyone thinking I’m commenting on Colmans claims I’m not. Just that the video simply misrepresents / lies about someone to smilingly push a narrative. I think what Coleman says has some truth to it but he’s not a “War Expert”.

[@patrickweaver1105]

Frankly I'm more likely to disbelieve a "war expert." Things are either true or not. Hamas lives and breathes propaganda. Appeals to authority are unconvincing to say the least.

[@flyoverkid55]

His last name is Hughes.

[@brokengenius315]

Well he is sitting in joe rogan podcast, he definately is more qualified than you and knows more than you on this matter soo 🤷‍♂️

[@belevezero2279]

@@brokengenius315 what makes you think that just because hes on Joes podcast that makes him more qualified than anyone else?

[@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead]

So you don't have a problem with data provided by an organization sympathetic to a terrorist group or see that data as a conflict of interest? Are you anti-Israel or just incredibly naive?

[@Unclemart99]

I'm still stunned that people are siding with terrorists. This isn't a one off either.

[@Oozaru89]

Hamas regime is literally made of Palestinian men....how people always leave that fact out....every time...im not talking about Iranian funding either

[@eliasziad7864]

26,000 women and children died out of the 34,000 civilians.

[@iamAwesomo1994]

"a very normal ratio" seems so fucked up

[@joshhoward1289]

War is pretty. He’s speaking truth and facts.

[@JayRSwan]

War is very f*cked up. Hamas knew this before starting it with their maximum civilian casualty attack on Israel.

[@elaswanymohamed4864]

so, am from middle east, and based on wars "in middle east" i am telling u that he is a deceiver. u as well might be biased however, both of u r clueless and ignorant

[@TheRealTieLUR]

War is fucked

[@SRTKOVA]

@@elaswanymohamed4864oh your from the Middle East and don’t agree with someone saying Hamas is evil. Don’t come here telling anyone else that they’re biased

[@caliconservative20]

Coleman is so grounded in truth.

[@cherylcollette6736]

Who's the black guy?

[@shmuelrosenbluth9741]

​@@cherylcollette6736well, based on the fact that the "white guy" is Joe Rogan, I think the "back guy" is colman

[@caliconservative20]

@@cherylcollette6736 Coleman Hughes

[@Decayed-ii5wl]

​@@shmuelrosenbluth9741the skill of deduction is slowly being lost by society.

[@mehoward9711]

​@@Decayed-ii5wlyuh eye no mey dedukaychon es naght dat grait

[@user-po4fh3pk8k]

imagine sitting in a little podcast room in the usa talking about 19000 civilians killed is a normal ratio...

[@othmanefathallah3178]

Of course, it's only Arab Muslim Palestinians, 13000 that's peanuts, thanks to the IDF for being so humane.

[@marcsimard2723]

Some men identify as women, some as war experts

[@adampindell]

To be clear, Coleman Hughes has never identified himself as a "war expert". We all got played by this clickbait title.

[@marcsimard2723]

@@adampindell well he’s wrong whatever his qualifications

[@2BluntsLaterJr]

@@marcsimard2723and what’s he wrong about? I don’t know much about this war, enlighten me

[@justagamer7791]

​@@2BluntsLaterJr because he didn't say that majority of those 19 000 civillians are women and children.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

​@@marcsimard2723He isn't wrong. Both America and Russia had a worse civilian to combatant ratio. And he is using numbers published by hamas, meaning the numbers are definitely inflated so the ratio is even lower in actuality.

[@nonombre7159]

Due to the overwhelming support hamas has among "palestinians" every male from 15 to 60 has the potential to be a soldier and a good portion of the women as well.

[@nikkinik4188]

Many Palestinians support hamas & don't value life. Many have been fed lies their entire lives; they obviously don't know Jesus. Let's pray for ALL people who will come, to come to the cross & put their faith alone in the blood atonement of Jesus the Messiah about 2k years ago. ❤✝️❤️

[@longsilver1]

Hamas doesn’t have soldiers… they have terrorists

[@switkaren]

They are taught to hate and fight israel from the cradle

[@user-hc8ki1rl4t]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@asdfgtrxcvhjkzxs3ek]

Damnn evil knows no Limits

[@candicebrunson9131]

Dang, Hamas really doesn't care about its own people, not even the children. Hiding amongst them like cowards.

[@takieddinbalti6956]

Let‘s ignore the attempted mass starvation.

[@gcelite36]

Dude said “For urban combat in the Middle East” before saying “normal” and yall are bitching about him saying normal. Stupid.

[@CarNNNN]

Yea totally normal by American Occupancy standards

[@TITTYtoucher2000]

​@@CarNNNNand soviet prior to that. And British and French prior to that, and ottoman prior to that

[@skepticynic5150]

@@TITTYtoucher2000and Romans prior to that.

[@alext5497]

​@@CarNNNNOctober 7th was your last dancing day

[@alynthequestseeker3017]

​@@skepticynic5150and Greeks prior to that

[@Joherandez-jz4jn]

I have seen the videos where Hamas soldiers are just wearing plain civilian clothes, that way they can claim that Israel is killing civilians.

[@billtmarchi4320]

My theory is that the difference between member of hamas versus palestinian civilian is: rocket laucher pointed up os hamas, rocket launched pointed down is palestinian civilian. It's just that 30 seconds when firing rocket launcher that they are hamas.

[@jacksnakejames9570]

And I'm SOOOO sure they don't do that on the other side. SMH

[@bobsmith6544]

@@jacksnakejames9570 r u ok?

[@christopherpakney8542]

The Jews fighting against Germany in the 1930s wore civilian clothes as well.

[@yazanmk7660]

And how did u knew that they are wearing civilian clothes and not civilians ?🤔

[@MrDen7515]

That's a horrible thing to say, I am ashamed for this young man.

[@cadevaughn7596]

What a calm, and level headed dude. Joe doesn't have a chance of breaking this dude.

[@jokkt6313]

People have a bad habit of misusing words, thankfully he explain it simple enough for people

[@Mountainman2468]

At last. Common sense and truth

[@qaisquraan5299]

How do you verify that it is? Do you live there?

[@lamborlambor6730]

​@@qaisquraan5299How about you verify your own claims?

[@chy4919]

@@lamborlambor6730 i mean they bombed the aid workers 3 times either knowingly or thinking they were hamas...

[@qaisquraan5299]

@@lamborlambor6730 what do I have to verify lol, its not like I’m the one talking with so much confidence about what’s happening with zero clue.

[@MichaelShinosky]

​@@qaisquraan5299 Verify your claim of "zero clue".

[@ariesmarsexpress]

There are 110,000 civilian casualties which is completely separate. That is both dead and wounded people who are not combatants.

[@CriticalSanchez]

They refused to leave and accepted to die as martyr to protect Hamas.

[@ariesmarsexpress]

@@CriticalSanchez From the world's perspective, that will make very little difference over the next 100 years for Israel. They are not coming back from this. Before, a couple of countries in the middle east didn't want them to exist, now an entire world understands why.

[@hnk9861]

Evil has no shame, has no limits. Sickening. Absolutely Sickening 😢 19000 mostly children 😢

[@rosebetime1029]

They asked for it what did they think Israel was going to do after hamas and innocent civilians came into Israel and committed horrific mutilation, rape and burning families alive

[@davidheard723]

Wr had the same argument when fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The terrorists would hide civilians inside compounds, knowing we would drop a bomb or IDF and afterwards we were accused of killing civilians. Terrorists hide behind civilians and then blame the other side when people are killed. How does everyone ignore and forget a war we fought only up to a few years ago???

[@miriamsaleh3913]

There were no terrorists in Iraq before the us invaded. They were created by the us in the first place. Even trump admits it.

[@mochithepooh5368]

Because we knew how Israel operates and how loose they're. We know they deliberately wait until the potential target went home to their family before striking them. We know Israel used unguided munitions which caused a lot of collateral. We know Israel have been lazy in their intelligence gathering to minimize collateral. You probably never heard of this because western media refuse to cover the expose.😊

[@captainohcaptain9588]

Who runs Gaza health ministry 😂 HAMAS

[@1.21Gigawatts_]

They actually don't

[@fazic759]

@@1.21Gigawatts_who runs it then

[@es-rh8oo]

​@@1.21Gigawatts_ tell me who runs it.

[@Menisama]

​@@1.21Gigawatts_Gaza health ministry is a government ministry, who is the elected government of Gaza? Hamas. So Hamas is the government sole ruler but they are not in the health ministry?🤦🤦🤦

[@stephenfgdl]

@@1.21Gigawatts_ you know, whenever you give a rebutal give your reasons why....don't answer like a child!

[@jessyhardlap9985]

Dude tryna normalize innocent civilians dying

[@benjobanjo7475]

Because that is normal in war

[@RonhozZ]

Almost like a war is going on 😮😮

[@gianlucaolano5341]

Jessy, please tell me how many people died on wars, you can search anyone you want.

[@ffk2385]

Oh Jesus, guys can you just stop with this.. he's not normalizing it he's just saying what stats are. Yeah war is horrible if you haven't noticed until now! What did you expect it's happening in the war? Perfect hanging out or something??

[@ffk2385]

People* not perfect...

[@quicksilver2510]

The CCP also said that a few hundred protesters died in the Tiananmen square massacre, and yet the real figure is closer to 10,000. Using the enemies figures is ludicrous. It's even more pathetic when the White House does it.

[@icebergsimpson2828]

Exactly it blows my mind that so few people are pointing this out

[@bambuco2]

Well it's the only numbers that exist currently, there isn't exactly an independent investigation crew on site during any of the wars. It also doesn't mean the numbers aren't correct.

[@cutebear1817]

Hamas is the one lying here

[@iamtruth6056]

Do you guys still believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?

[@brolol529]

​@@bambuco2"the only numbers that exist yet" these are made up numbers. Most likely there's no way to know the actual numbers because there is not enough tools in gaza to do that. Made up numbers are worse than not having any! If I told you right now there's "only" 1000 civilian deaths in Gaza, would it help? Now you have more numbers to work with

[@maxinesimonelli7383]

This will stop in the name of JESUS.

[@roberteigen4499]

My Dear, what does Jesus have to do with this????

[@brotherhu51hu68]

He's lamb and lion. God did wiped out whole city (in olden time, is equivalent to our sense of a nation) as recorded in all 3 religions, Jewish Christian and thus Muslim.

[@rousinrabble]

I stopped believing Jesus at dead infants.

[@Eyeze]

@@rousinrabbleforget jesus, dear. Take a gamble that goodness exists, and do a good act. :)

[@delano4526]

@@roberteigen4499Jesus/God has to do with everything, he was even born in Israel

[@strongjaymusicgroup]

Are we talking about people being killed? Damn we are desensitized.

[@ProfAskia]

I pray he gets his neeedga wake up call.

[@yehudacohen9151]

That's not normal for urban combat in the Middle East. It's exceptional.

[@eliolaro4420]

Any source that a urban war in the middle east hasn t that much civilians casualties

[@avnerduchovni6675]

Perhaps the opposite. The ratio is very low, thanks to Israel's caution and care for international opinion. Hey, have you ever compared the number of Palestinians killed by Israel throughout history to the number of them killed by Syria in 6 months?

[@HarryLagman]

Syria have killed more Muslims in 6 months than Israel has in 75 years

[@ammanueltsegay1434]

Tell me about Yemen 🇾🇪 how many people have been killed by Suni and Shia Muslims also how many yazidi have been killed?????

[@TheRohitmukherjee]

I agree with you it's exceptional...cause we know how Hamas likes to hide behind civilians... And they prefer Palestinian civilians dying just because that supports their narrative

[@hummervs3278]

Hamas played FAFO

[@fin_jan]

And we are in the Find Out stage

[@apostatethegreat.9398]

Lol Everyone in Gaza is Hamas

[@gaptoothbandit6832]

Can we travel to Israel from the us right now?

[@whatshappening3327]

I don't know if this is true but I heard someone say that Islam allows for lying in times of war.

[@zane4575]

Islam allows for lying any time, whether there's war or not.

[@boynamesue7720]

Not just times of war but, also, to spread Islam.

[@Vanta4741]

I think there's a deeper meaning that I don't understand? My knowledge as a human is also limited. wallahualam

[@dkdkkdks5087]

​@@boynamesue7720Spreading Islam is part of the war. Mohammad and Allah are at war with the disbelievers. Never trust a Muslim when he talks about Islam! ALWAYS ask for the verses in the Quran or Hadith otherwise they might be lying / twisting the truth

[@oussama-nl5tt]

Oh yeah ?

[@workslob]

Correct sir a voice of reason. And let us never forget the 7th October. No country would put up with that.

[@youcefhemaidia2395]

70 years? October 6th ? October 5th?

[@qaisquraan5299]

Its funny how people are being pushed to feel bad about what they choose too feel bad about. You sound like an npc.

[@workslob]

@@qaisquraan5299 not sure what an npc is?

[@delano4526]

@@youcefhemaidia2395Yeah 70 years of Arab terrorism

[@youcefhemaidia2395]

@@qaisquraan5299 answer my point then y'all talking about 7th October like that doesn't happen every two months for 70+ years,idf soldiers holding families and children at gun point, randomly forcing people out of their houses beating them to a near death state if not killing the person, raping 16 year old girls,a 12 year old caught on alot of cameras, targeting anyone with a camera, attacking elderly and wemon inside mosks while praying in ramadan with flashbangs and tear gas,all this years before "khamas" even existed,so who you calling an npc

[@Chillemdafoe]

Imagine considering a hamas source reliable

[@nostra1874]

Wow…. This guy has been so white washed. Wouldn’t survive a day in Chicago young blood

[@hero9402]

This guy is basically saying "yeah lets normalise it"

[@anamneses28]

He's not. He's a very logical and statistics focused person. Coleman Hughes.

[@user-in2qx7cv3s]

first time? this is a fairly standard urban conflict bud. the pearl clutching is the new thing being normalized. modern warfare has been around for 80 years, and general war since the dawn of man (and was exponentially more brutal).

[@ethanguptill3417]

⁠@@user-in2qx7cv3sa human rights org I just googled puts the ratio of civilians to combatants to 90%. Irregardless of that though this isn’t just “regular urban combat” they have been shown to use things such as white phosphorus, and they have bombed civilians convoys. They are not just doing modern urban warfare

[@user-in2qx7cv3s]

@@ethanguptill3417 i didnt say it was a good thing. look at the ratios in the iraqi conflict, the saudi/yemen conflicts, the lebanese conflicts, the conflict in veitnam, hell the conflict between ireland and great britain. the sad reality is that when an insurgent force uses civilians as cover while launching attacks against a conventional military, especially when the civilians are supportive of and participating tacitly or actively in the causes of the insurgency, you are going to have HIGH civilian casualities. the line between civilian and combatant gets blurred heavily and is itself used as a convenient propaganda tool for an insurgent force. for example, they will use women and children to transport and bring combatants munitions and material support. in that moment by definition those "civilians" are acting as members of the insurgency. this is something that is forbidden to do within conventional militaries, but encouraged in these groups for the very reason that if those women and children are killed as a result of involving themselves in the war making, the insurgencies can use their death as propaganda to rally support globally and among the populace. they engage in shitty tactics endangering the very population that supports them so they can play the victim. they hide munitions and command in hospitals and schools. they fire weapons from the courtyards of mosques and churches. they locate their command structure in historical sights. so that every time their military structure is attacked, and the civilians they put in danger are killed, they win a point in a propaganda war. they hope to throw enough "innocent" bodies on the alter of their cause that their enemies eventually can't stomach any more killing. it is the most dispicable form of warfare and has been a go to for certain regions in modern times. THAT is the reality of modern urban warfare, and THAT is what causes high civilian casualties.

[@mjt1517]

He’s saying this is what normally happens. He’s not saying it should happen, just that it does.

[@architecturehappy]

It just came out that the Gaza health ministry couldn’t confirm 11,000 deaths because of incomplete data, putting it closer to 1:1 combatants to civilians which is UNHEARD of in modern urban combat

[@harnessriscallous7466]

Neither could the US after 9/11... Incomplete data when reducing cities to rubble is totally normal.

[@harnessriscallous7466]

That you honestly believe there's a 1:1 kill ratio is perhaps the most pathetic thing I've seen in my entire life.

[@sausagethinnotyouraveragem4123]

You should Look at your comment

[@user-dn9si6ch7b]

@@harnessriscallous7466you didn’t even read his comment bro. If your gonna shit on someone’s opinion at least retell their argument correctly.

[@harnessriscallous7466]

@@user-dn9si6ch7b aww you're cute. After 9/11, the recorded death had more incomplete data. Kind of hard to get a govt id # from a charred corpse.

[@RodGustavson]

16,000 women and children have been killed. MORE than the 13,000 “soldiers”. And don’t forget that the IDF claims any male old enough to fight is a soldier. Any war where there are more women and children dying than soldiers is not going well.

[@pt.gphindonesiakapital2382]

BS at its purest!

[@carlb770]

The questions about numbers and reality are obvious in an honest discussion

[@frankedgar6694]

How can you possibly tell the difference between a “civilian” and a Hamas coward?

[@Colorblind1975]

Civilians don't walk around with Kalashnikovs and RPGs

[@frankedgar6694]

@@Colorblind1975 Such a childish answer.

[@charlesklempner8273]

I don’t think Hamas wants Israel to be able to distinguish them from their civilians.

[@saltygreek3870]

James uses civilians as shields, Isreal gave the Palestinians more than enough warning and time to get out of gazza, Isreal isn't mindlessly trying to kill innocent ppl in gazza.

[@abesplace5079]

​@frankedgar6694 it's the correct answer so I can see why you would hate it... 😂

[@NOne72]

Since when is Colman Hughes a war expert? He's a writer and podcaster

[@troy3637]

Good for that expert

[@jrip4789]

Hamas says 32k, Israel says 12k soldiers. Hamas doesn’t make a difference between soldiers and civilians, Israel doesn’t make a difference between Hamas and males of fighting age.

[@slomo1562]

Especially if those males are... fighting.

[@hypernanox9002]

Still 14k children being killed.

[@Anonymous-eg1xk]

​​@@hypernanox9002 where did u get that number from

[@einasam]

@@hypernanox9002 That would mean the ratio is that the most dead are children, and it is unrealistic ratio. You just pulled that one out of your as$.

[@chukwuebukanwobodo579]

​@@slomo1562 those males were definitely fighting.

[@gtrman128]

One of the issues with Hamas is that they stand behind their civilians when being attacked...

[@muhamadtaufik399]

Any evidence proven? Or it's the narrative provided by the oppressors?

[@LarsJuniorB]

@@muhamadtaufik399seen countless videos FROM hamas where the fighters are fighting in jeans and t shirts ☠️ when they get sent to hell obviously hamas is gonna say its a civilian death

[@Hollis_has_questions]

@@muhamadtaufik399That IS the number provided by the oppressors. The oppressor of the Palestinian people is their government, which is Hamas.

[@muhamadtaufik399]

@Hollis.tl-dr what a simplistic view you have. Well, to each his own.

[@kermitthefrog2578]

​@@muhamadtaufik399 there's plenty of videos pictures, even videos of isis doing it, the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, boku haram, there's plenty not to mention first hand accounts from soldiers

[@haroldteo7994]

He doesn't know the facts. Check with UN.

[@ntatemohlomi2884]

That black friend singing for his bountiful supper.

[@amostake]

The whole thing that irritates me the most, is that when Hamas, and the Gaza civilians attacked Israel.... they specifically tried to maximize civilian casualties. Yet the people who targeted civilians are crying that Israel is targeting civilians, when they are not.

[@peterang6912]

no, they not... on oct 7th it was israel who shoot on israeli civilians, Hamas only took hostages..all the other stories about october 7th was all lies from israel...

[@MohammedAslamPasha]

This irritates you. Just think about people who have been kicked out their house and not letting them back in to their home who have nothing to do with hamas or IDF; how irritated they would feel

[@GoblinxChild]

@@MohammedAslamPasharight, that definitely justifies killing the civilians who aren’t responsible for displacing them. Flawless logic.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

@@MohammedAslamPasha Maybe they should have either voted out, or overthrown the Hamas government then? Or just asked Israel or the west for help in the first place. I'm not exactly full on blaming them, but most of them have some share in letting things get to this point. And a good portion even pushed things there.

[@MohammedAslamPasha]

@Nyarlathotep_Flagg yup don't you think the British did a shitty job of splitting the country

[@esty6983]

Who is he? He's great.

[@nasahmed5989]

You don't recognise a fellow liar??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@11bravo18]

​@@nasahmed5989 < Prove it. Eh.

[@esty6983]

@@nasahmed5989 You have internet in your mom's basement?

[@shlogoff]

​@@nasahmed5989all you guys can do is scream "liar" and use emojis. Because facts are not on your side.

[@THEFRITZ23]

Colman Hughes

[@azkatirtawijaya6807]

Preeeeeeeeet....

[@hasanainsholi6427]

Come on u r black u r smarter than this 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@NuanceBro]

Coleman Hughes is not a “war expert” lol

[@darthmid_gaming7875]

All it takes is research. Research would show in urban warfare, civilian deaths are always higher.

[@domenico4808]

Neither Is Joe Rogan

[@techleak_official]

Brother 19000 people are killed and you say it's normal

[@K5YYA]

“Its okay in the middle east” Im pretty sure u wont say. “Store robbery in new york cops killed 4 civilians and 2 robbers it was a good day for the justice system”

[@alonweinberg3175]

what about innocent Palestinians killed by Hamas??

[@beatricecooper1727]

You are brave to speak the truth. ❤❤❤

[@roberttitan4497]

Whataboutism is a poor debate tactic, but effective.

[@thushargowda2511]

​@@roberttitan4497all these made up "ism" words. Get a life bruh.

[@roberttitan4497]

@@thushargowda2511 My sincere condolences for your loss.

[@KarelKopriva]

These are not counted 😅😂

[@TUHANbukanorangARAB]

"HAMAS does not serve Palestinian people, HAMAS serves Iran. They are using Palestinian people as human Shield." *(Musab Hassan Yousef)*

[@brandonsanders2767]

They were elected to govern. Now that may be my force and gun point, but the Palestinians also tried to kill king Abdullah and they supported saddam Hussein which is why the Kuwaitis ended up kicking hundreds of thousands out of their country. Nobody is perfect sure but you can see the fundamentalist nature of the Palestinians or Syrians if you want to get technical.

[@angelrasch]

😶 so why they attack the shield instead of them??

[@TUHANbukanorangARAB]

@@angelrasch You know the militias wear daily clothing. They are civilians in Gaza Strip.

[@sayeedakhtar8647]

​@@TUHANbukanorangARABI find it funny that aan army defending it's land is called militia but a nation invading it is called moral and upright army.

[@sayeedakhtar8647]

​@@brandonsanders2767says a person whose nation goes around the world overthrowing their democratic elected government installing puppet, funding a terrorist organisation in order to cause chaos in peaceful country in order to loot their natural resources and then lecture the people of the nation who are resisting against him and call them terrorist. WESTERN HAVE NEVER REALLY GIVEN UP ON THEIR SUPERIORITY COMPLEX HAVE THEY.

[@Mountaineer506]

Still don’t fucking care either way. Not my country. Doesn’t affect us. Not in nato. They had like 8000 years to not be a living L. Such is history. Take back our money and let it be.

[@marzi8456]

remember this whole conversation he's having is based on a guess at numbers...expert

[@exportedafrican]

I used to respect Joe.. but this has been eye opening that he doesn’t do his homework

[@Jason-ws3cd]

I enjoy his content, but he is not a patriotic, America loving American, and he won't vote for the conservative candidate, he plays his audience.

[@kathieboudreau129]

Yeah, but “Dr” Jill tells him what to say.

[@Jason-ws3cd]

@kathieboudreau129 not the same joe, but still funny

[@Blight-Knight9]

He does do his homework. He just hears opinions from so many people all at once, ofc he condemns all the hamas crap he has since day 1

[@MsElke11]

@@kathieboudreau129 i think he listens more to CANDACE O

[@subhanmars3330]

13.000 civillians killed in Gaza this dude: it's fine in middle east. damn bro, how cold your heart could be.

[@aliaqeelabbasi393]

19.000 civilians*

[@subhanmars3330]

@@aliaqeelabbasi393 thats even worse

[@hmswarspite3233]

Not what he said, all he said is it was nothing out of the ordinary for urban combat

[@SodaBoppins]

Never heard of desert storm or the 2 battles for fallujah?

[@zam50]

Don't twist peoples words

[@eliyahumagrev6046]

The Truth is Palestinians and Hamas are the SAME

[@OrdonyFlastiny]

S.M .D

[@BuckarooBonzai]

Minimizing the pain of others like this is simply bad 👎.

[@zackfool8931]

If they run they're Hamas, if they stand still, they're a well trained Hamas.

[@robertcarlclayton7724]

Stick with your video games, this is a serious subject where people stay dead.

[@user-in2qx7cv3s]

@@robertcarlclayton7724 not a movie buff i take it?

[@robertcarlclayton7724]

Your attempt to be clever wasn't. You should chat with Zack.

[@user-in2qx7cv3s]

@@robertcarlclayton7724 Your attempt to be snide and superior in the comment section was lame. Zack is probably too busy having good taste in movies to chat right now. So i will continue bagging on you for having the sense of humor and cultural awareness of a potato.

[@Malthusia]

@@user-in2qx7cv3swhat movie? It sounds familiar

[@Tapecutter59]

Hamas started with 2000 fighters on Oct 7th, they now have 40,000 because Isreal makes no distinction between civilians and combabtants.

[@ammarbakir1597]

Unless you’re there , don’t run your mouth . What the hell is a war expert anyways

[@PRJ413]

Anyone who’s listened to this entire interview knows he didn’t dismantle nothing.

[@calebwhite1999]

He just did dismantle the narrative. Many people don't understand that the Gaza Health Ministry IS Hamas, so is not to be trusted in regards to jack shit.

[@chitoyk8o554]

Says the Jew….

[@tzitzitzitzi1584]

Didn't dismantle nothing means that he dismantled something. You used double negative 😂

[@qwertzu1195]

@@tzitzitzitzi1584 smartest hamas supporter

[@despa7726]

@@tzitzitzitzi1584Double negative is a linguistic feature of many languages. It is a dialectal feature of English as well.

[@Isabel-oq3vf]

I didn’t expect Joe to be so remarkably uneducated for a someone in his position…

[@jacobm-yv9kw]

And I didn't expect someone with such great knowledge on everything such as yourself to treat others with such impertinence

[@gvngbvngiggy]

Are you serious? 🤣 99% of his claims are backed up by first page google searches at best. Hes an entertainer not an educator.

[@GunGuy258]

Joe is an idiot. He just sounds confident when he spouts off crap and that comes across as intelligence.

[@YahziCoyote]

Well... I did.

[@brendonasgraf1810]

And what exactly is his position

[@birdie5846]

palestinians will gladly NOT condemn hamas

[@oneepunch]

IDF numbers are definitely inflated. Gaza’s numbers are proof checked by western organisations

[@LionBenJudah44]

Lol since when is your enemy responsible for protecting your own people 😅 Israel deserves our respect 🎉 Hamas should be ashamed of themselves 😮

[@beatricecooper1727]

You have a beautiful ❤❤❤

[@rogernouaimeh1217]

Hamas is Israel, why do you think it started genius, they always need an excuse to go on the offensive and not act as the culprits, pls do research. 1947 war and the wars after, you are blind

[@lamborlambor6730]

​@@rogernouaimeh1217Where tf did you even get that. Hamas is quite literally being funded by outside forces, and through using U.N aid to afford military gear, why would Israel want Hamas to Invade, and terrorize them? I mean like how stupid is that to do??

[@k-ozdragon]

@@rogernouaimeh1217 So the people of Gaza elected Israel to lead them, via a fake terrorist front called hamas? They haven't realized it yet, but somehow you have. Then Israel had them attack their own people, so they could then go in and attack their own installed puppet government who works with them and is one in the same. Yeah man, brilliant deduction. That makes perfect sense.

[@aranisles8292]

@@rogernouaimeh1217 Anti-semitic / tin foil hat bs. You probably feel you are unique and 'special' for knowing the real real truth. Enjoy the ego trip.

[@JM-ic6ie]

Israel informing the civilians where they're going to bomb... Hamas not letting the civilians leave... Who is really responsible if they're not allowed to leave?

[@samali808]

For example when Israel told people to go to Rafah and then continued to bomb Rafah? Or when Israel said they don’t bomb hospitals but then bombed 20 more hospitals? Also please do read the NYT article of how Israel secretly propped up Hamas.

[@peterang6912]

Israel informed the civilians 5 minutes before the bombing..YEAH... at least they informed the civilians... And Hamas never told the people not to leave.. Israel told the palestinians that a point in gaza was save and all the palestinians need to go to that point and when there was a group palestinians there, Israel bombed that point.. so why leave if you even get bombed on the "save places" israel said are save...

[@dewy6]

Israel

[@qaisquraan5299]

Thats so dumb, there are 2 million people in Gaza and you think Hamas can control that. If people don’t leave thats because they don’t want to, still people who leave get bombed in open area on their way. Videos are out showing women and children bombed with their innards out of their bodies.

[@bourguibakhaiereddine2716]

And how about the world kitchen employees..

[@lcurtis86]

Which Palestinian leaders are Jewish? How many Jews worked in Gaza, prior to October 7th? 🤔

[@Lokie-cd2hw]

If civilians support, protect, hide and shield Hamas, then they are Hamas and are putting their children in danger.

[@TheArchitect101]

Dude, you lost the argument when you said it’s normal in the Middle East - your complicit!

[@alexh2097]

"For Urban Combat in the middle east it is a normal ratio" If you quote Something do it right - you are complicit!

[@alexh2097]

People on the Internet are crazy 😂😂 thinking they know Shit and are so well informed 😂😂

[@veridan4363]

It's not an "argument." It's an observation of historical trends. It's also not complicit to acknowledge that what has happened is continuing to happen. Again, that's merely an observation.

[@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeister]

Just to put you into prespective - in Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the wordt stats speak about 300.000 dead, wounded, captured, MIA combatants (100.000 Soviets and 200.000 Afghan forces) with around 200.000 killed The civilian casualities are between 1.5 - 2 millions dead and 3 millions of wounded. Meaning that for each soldier dead 10 civilians died and for each missing, captured or wounded soldier 30 civilians were wounded. This gives us total ratio of 1:16.7 millitary to civilian casuality. Gaza is 1:1.46 - and this by using the Hamas source that is most likely overexadurated. (With most probable number being 30.000 deaths the ratio would be 1:1.3)

[@TheMrmomo55]

​​​@@KriegsmarineCZE_Jaegermeisterfirst of all your numbers are wrong. That was also a War between two countries and not an anti terror Operation. Secondly the war was almost 40 years ago and lasted for 10 years. Third, almost the entire world condemned the soviet Union for this brutal war. We talk about war crimes in this context. Also since its about the soviets you can assume exaggerated numbers. Even wikipedia speaks of 800.000-2.000.000 a huge span, which indicates that there are no real statistics. Also the number of Afghani combatants killed varies vastly. You are cherrypicking statistics. But lastly and the most important part: israel as the occupying force has the moral obligation to protect civilian lifes. This is not a war between to countries like in Ukraine. Israel is using excessive force against civilians. At this rate there will be almost 5% of the hole gazan population dead in 1 year of war. Even compared to Faludja the civilian death toll is horrofic im Gaza. Also the civilian to Combatant ratio is one of the worst for the israeli military. Also War crimes dont look at numbers. Even the death of 10 civilians can be a war crime, in that regard, israel is responsible of countless war crimes. Sadly since israel is a western colony, there will never be a serious persecution.

[@msalmanalfarisy891]

This is dude trying to looks netral, but just use 1 side data from israel.. and the point is, this dude maybe have no internet in his home for sure.

[@msalmanalfarisy891]

Hypocrit

[@abetterfuture4787]

"But just use 1 side data from israel" Except at the literal start of the clip he states the data provided by the Gazan Health Ministry, and shortly after he uses that data in combination with the data from Israel for the calculation of his ratio. The clip is like a minute long dude, how the hell did you miss that?

[@Averyaveragedeskin]

@@abetterfuture4787 because theses people don't want facts, they just want to run off their emotions

[@fgc1850]

You cant even watch a 60 seconds video

[@msinbalony]

Are you deaf? did you listen to what he said? he literally used data from both sides. Maybe finish school first before commenting.

[@johanahmed7201]

How much they pay you bro ?

[@morrisgall1779]

Rogan.. GOD will judge you and them Hamas.

[@jasonpurnell4118]

Joe believing hamas 😆

[@dkdkkdks5087]

yeah. I was like wtf is Joe retrded

[@youcefhemaidia2395]

​@@dkdkkdks5087y'all believe the idf?

[@haiderameer9473]

@@dkdkkdks5087except Israel themselves came to a very similar casualty count as the Gaza Health ministry so the number is in the 32k range. Not to mention the US believes the number is indeed higher than reported so if anything there’s more reason for us to believe the death toll than disregard it.

[@johnwhite4960]

He didn't debunk shit, he gave us his opinion.

[@ytprv1890]

He did debunk it

[@StarrDust0]

He's an expert on war...nuff said.

[@peterpeplinski9923]

Who is he

[@AdeebHamad]

​@johnwick5350 So what makes him an expert on war? He have a PhD or something?

[@AdeebHamad]

​@ytprv1890 how??

[@shahida4760]

Yeah war expert

[@ariog.5287]

Isnt Gaza gone ?

[@brigoose7945]

Gaza = Hamas has murdered their own since 2002/2004. Noone cries for rhem

[@TheLoyalpain]

They only care about palestinian lives when they can point their finger at israel

[@yonisbadar2129]

You really don't know anything do you

[@brigoose7945]

@@yonisbadar2129 I remember it on the news all my life to now.

[@leonig01]

​@@yonisbadar2129Tell it to the gays, suspected collaborants, PLO "palestinians" ... they all flew off roof tops in Gazah, killed by other "palestinians". Go learn some history, before showing your ignorance.

[@yonisbadar2129]

@brigoose7945 the fact that the gaza strip exists the way it is, is because of the colonial project from 1948 onwards.