War on the EPA (full documentary) | FRONTLINE

[@redmustangredmustang]

Just remember that Bob Murray died October 2020 of black lung disease. Hated government regulation then applied for government black lung benefits when he was dying. Irony right there.

[@sor3999]

His company also apparently went bankrupt. All that lobbying to save his profits and destroying the environment for nothing.

[@GregoryJByrne]

It's not you It's not CO2 it is the precession of the sun's shadow millennial alpha omega equinoxes. When earth's orbits eclipse the sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator every 12,000 years for a 1,000 years. Causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times. The Great Year or Mystery of the 7 star crossings Jesus held in his hand to warn us about the cause. The Galactic milankovitch cycles. The first of Noah's Tsunami's will be pulled out & around the planet east to west by the new moon with the major conjunction of mercury & venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes the earth's orbits to cross the Sun's solar plane separating the fermie cells of it's OOrt cloud magnetosphere. Jesus is the truth life & only way to have life & life more abundantly on God our fathers footstool.

[@daphuc502]

death at 80 year old by doing what he loved, well that is a very full filling life there. Of course he deserved all the benefits, because he paid for all of them, or the government robbed that money from him.

[@comradejozef2806]

Good. History won't be kind to him.

[@vondas1480]

Rest in piss

[@billynotreally3793]

Epilogue: Scott Pruitt resigned in July 2018 as a result of at least 14 federal investigations into his spending habits and conflicts of interest as head of the EPA.

[@smirky101]

Also included in the epilogue, Bob Murray of murray energy is now dead, his body presumably slowly turning into coal beneath the earth.

[@micksmom2293]

@@smirky101 that's what dinosaurs do

[@christiancarrillo8731]

Another republican screaming boogie man while robbing the ppl

[@danthomas6587]

I wish we could turn all republicans into coal.

[@sleepsmartsmashstress740]

14 federal investigations?

[@johnstringer4439]

Bob Murray stated that he suffered from idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, a scarring of the lung tissue leading to shortness of breath. In September 2020, he filed application for black lung benefits with the U.S. Department of Labor. While running coal mining companies, Murray disputed claims filed by miners for black lung benefits and was an advocate against federal regulations intended to reduce black lung.

[@ingridakerblom7577]

Why is no one surprised? Maybe bcs he is the WORST. He dosen't care about his workers, he cares about them making HIM money COMPLETELY different. If you truly care for someone, you try to make sure they are safe, he does not. He reminds me of my sister. If confronted by anything obvious, they will just lie about what has happened Starting quite calmly but working themselves up as much as they can in the process whist manically telling you more lies & off topic arguments often using dramatic language, and by doing that they turn themselves into the victim they feel like & use some type of emotional extortion bcs they hope you won't go on with any argument without feeling and to them now looking like an a******, bcs they are now in tears SO worked up. Indicating is your fault. If you still do continue, they WILL explode as an immediate reaction bcs now they are angry, offended & really feel like a victim when you don't follow their rules & shut up. Don't notice reality.. just let them continue with their self galning BS - or else.. Taking any responsibility is not possible. Not even for their own actions.. They will always use that tactic to deflect, to get out off any situation they dislike & to make others do & act as they want them to. Incredibly immature bcs every toddler knows that game- feel sorry for myself & get angry when it dosen't work - bcs I have no coping skills.. it's one thing when a toddler does it, it's undefendable when a grown, senior man does it..

[@BCSTS]

I sure hope he was not successful in getting benefits from the funds he denied his own workers he 'cared so much about ' !

[@SeekingFreedom369]

“Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”

[@magiccarpet6230]

Good men usually do nothing because they are too few in number.

[@moodist1er]

@@magiccarpet6230 Diogenes agrees.

[@somewhatsomething4882]

@@magiccarpet6230 and they are constrained by their nature, thus self restricted from such actions which the "evil" are not. Actions that tip the balance... Or seal a fate. Perhaps the meek shall not inherit the earth upon this reality. It will not be a world one would want to inherit. "They say evil prevails when good men do nothing, when what they oughta say is "Evil prevails""; from the movie "Lord of War".

[@KM-nd6wj]

Man, every single day, we learn about ANOTHER bullet we dodged in Nov 2020. And they aren’t done with us yet.

[@diannh2894]

This.

[@christopherstephens6963]

Mr Koch calling himself a normal person is hilarious.

[@junglecat_rant]

🎯 I was thinking the same. What a brazen statement.

[@foto21]

Gotta believe your own propoganda to spew it well.

[@davidsonlankford1168]

Why do you think he is not normal? Just because he made a lot of money and still has it makes him smart. How about you?

[@joelroymucunguzi2075]

Right! 😂

[@davidsonlankford1168]

@@joelroymucunguzi2075 # we need more Koch brothers. The more people earning a living the less we have dependent on government.

[@deadeyetopher8621]

The telling part was when Pruitt said if it doesn't affect him in his short lifetime he doesn't care! Like his kids and grandkids future on this earth don't matter to these trolls

[@tamarabartolo9185]

Exactly!!!

[@dadikkedude]

@Chishio Chishio How so? Why not start again without all the snakes when the rich are in Elysium?

[@jamesgarfoyle3188]

you wouldn't talk like this if it was your family caught up with this. Making computers and using them also causes environmental damage that you're not willing to talk about because that's probably how you make your money.

[@jamesgarfoyle3188]

@Chishio Chishio computer making industries?

[@deadeyetopher8621]

@@dadikkedude in 45 years the rich have pushed there gains by over 1000x as the working class has lost all there benefits and retirement! At what point will the rich not be in control! 35 Republicans just stopped any Jan 6th investigation! Yes 1/2 didn't even bother to show up ! They once again used the filibuster to stop the majority from doing what the people want! This is 100% mitch McConnell!

[@carpo719]

Nobody wants to protect the environment except those who have no power, because we are the most affected. The billionaires could not care less

[@dertythegrower]

Carpo man, people must subscribe to the carpo. He listens no matter what you believe, that is what the country needs, more listeners and less talking.

[@carpo719]

@@dertythegrower good to see you here my friend I hope you're doing well

[@jackyblevins8724]

They have LONGS DON'T THEY ?????? THEY will Die from CANCER, Other AIR BORN PATAGENS

[@jackyblevins8724]

THAT MAY VERY WELL BE BUT OUR children grandchildren WILL HAVE CLEAN AIR WATER LIVE HAVE CLEAN LAKES, ANIMALS CLEAN OCEANS

[@sammyk702]

The one thing that shakes me to my core is the audacity of these lobbyists most of them are old and they seem to only be concerned with themselves. I even heard one of them say that global warming won't affect him during his lifetime. What about their descendants? Will they enjoy the luxurious lifestyle he does? How are they gonna spend money if they can't breathe? Or have a suitable environment to live? Smh

[@sharond36]

Right on brother right on!!!!

[@jargaltkhaantsogt-erdene4664]

They simply don't care what happens, the only thing that matters is stuffing their piggy banks until they go six feet under

[@gavinb907]

We will always have a suitable environment. Look at history, the earth always is warming and cooling. Where is the sea rising, where is global warming effecting things?

[@twonumber22]

@@gavinb907 I lived in Hawaii only 9 years and can attest to the rising sea, just like everyone else there. When you talk about Earth's past climatic record, you're talking about a past that was not compatible with modern civilization. To top it all off, Earth is * currently * undergoing only it's 6th great mass extinction.

[@gavinb907]

@@twonumber22 Who’s going extinct? We are also due for the polls to switch. Throughout all of time this has led to warming

[@celiagraham5920]

It’s truly astonishing to hear what Pruitt says about Special Interests at the end.

[@brandon8900]

Amazing how old people will deny things that won't affect them in their lifetime!

[@russelmurray9268]

Age has nothing to do with it

[@northerncoloradotransparen1454]

Exactly, just like consuming meat and dairy. The UN and WHO have been telling people for 15 years but so many do not care! Consume the antibiotic infested animals that spend their entire existence in feces, urine, and other dead animals. No problems with diseases... HELLO AMERICA ANYONE HOME??

[@chaosking911]

Age only plays a role in the motive for said denial, it looks like a scale going from ignorance dominated to hypocrisy dominated. In both cases the result is self interest at the expense and disregard of others.

[@justinmaurice9697]

So hard to watch these scum bags laugh at the protection of the environment. The greed and lying is disgusting.

[@LCplDwayneHicks]

They are just filth. Horrible people on the wrong side.

[@johndeach4573]

Fuck em and the coal train they rode in on .

[@Jaxymann]

It staggers my mind that, during an era of unprecedented environmental crises that threaten the livelihoods of millions of Americans, years of possible progress was lost because a bunch of self-serving narcissists more interested in satisfying their own egos and bank accounts were in charge.

[@ac1143]

Old man yells at cloud

[@maxt7525]

Weather is fine here......can you tell me where the sea has risen?

[@gavinb907]

The earth goes through periodic cycles of hot and cold. If you looked at history you would see we face nothing new or anything worth being concerned about.

[@tnhankins1]

@@gavinb907 stop believing the hype, our summers are getting hotter and drier. Winters are becoming extremely colder than normal or warmer than normal.

[@gavinb907]

@@tnhankins1 Well history and science explains that away. We’re due for the polls to flip which throughout history has led to warming. The earth cannot be destroyed by global warming

[@100perdido]

Those poor and oppressed oil and gas companies. Let's give them some more tax payer subsidies and tax breaks so they will feel all better.

[@junglecat_rant]

😂😂🤣😂🎯

[@kelleybryant5947]

They already pay zero taxes, and the subsidies mean we effectively pay them to operate here. How does that make sense?

[@rorymajors2504]

@@kelleybryant5947 their “subsidies” are in the form of helping the poor with their energy and heating bills. You against that?

[@renewashington9119]

😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@chrismerkel9604]

The Koch brothers are evil fascist. They call themselves capitalist but at their core they are just opportunistic fascist, that is why the GOP does their bidding and supports D.J. Chump. They want to destroy our democracy along with our judicial system.

[@myando46]

I find it funny when people always call it Obama’s EPA when it actually started by Nixon.

[@chiefdave51]

The EPA was very much needed at that time, waterway’s were so polluted, we almost wiped out Hawks, etc. The EPA does a lot of good still, it’s simply the overreach of the EPA for a political initiative.

[@kathleenroberts6931]

Chevron Deference is before SCOTUS, if overturned, All Federal & State Regulatory Agencies would be shuttered. 😮

[@kathleenroberts6931]

​@@chiefdave51There is no overreach by the EPA. Raygumb took away the EPA'S legal teeth...😡

[@AltruisticWarrior]

​@chiefdave4931 Trump appointees hushed EPA officials from being able to do their job and report to legislators that the bill being passed had a huge loophole for forever chemicals. 800 tons dumped into the environment in that time with no accountability or recourse. Thankfully the Biden administration got that loophole amended recently. Idk about you, I'd rather not unknowingly ingest or breathe that stuff in just because a company down the road wanted to cut costs, I didn't consent to that and neither did all the children playing outside at school nearby. Won't even get started on Trumps pushback of Chlorpyrifos... I work with the stuff underground and it's absolutely nasty.

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

Koch: "ordinary people like us" 😂😂

[@teamtoken]

Just your average friendly neighborhood Billionaire, no big deal

[@scarpfish]

"The miners told me about the attacks on their jobs, and their livelihoods." You mean, decades of automation reducing the need for manpower and power plants using other cheaper sources of energy reducing the need for coal?

[@jamesgarfoyle3188]

they do have a point though. Many of the people talking about these EPA regulations are people with multiple cars, multiple homes, jobs at tech companies. If you were really honest about your position, you would say 'fine let's kill coal jobs. And we will share our money with people who lose money because of it'. IS the government or you willing to do that? No. So let us feed our families the best way we can.

[@james-faulkner]

@@jamesgarfoyle3188 "Many of the people talking about these EPA regulations", that was all of the people interviewed. Now, if what you are attempting to say, in general, is that the rich, techie, nerd people are trying to kill blue collar jobs. That would be the people 'endorsing' EPA regulation. Let's be honest, I would wager not one person endorsing stricter oversight of the rules, made a statement that was anything like "Let's get rid of coal jobs." The problem is they are heavy polluters and they don't care and they attempt to shirk the law. The EPA does not write laws just to be punitive, they do it because we must keep the waters and air and ground free of as much pollution as possible. We share the planet with millions upon millions of other species that evolved along with us. Yes the surface is covered by 3/4 water but only a small fraction of a percent is fresh water. To see what happens when a planet's atmosphere goes out of control look to Venus. You say that the people are just trying to feed their families the best way they can but that is not a true statement. The best way you can is to do good by people, society, and the planet. You just meant the most convenient way. Also those families, all families are an issue. The population is too great to be supported by the natural process of the planet to feed everybody. Every person does not require a many copies of themselves to ensure our species survives. If the population stays the same or reduces then the need for the rising demand of power and resources and the levels of pollution and waste will follow. I have always been a blue collar worker, except when I worked with mentally handicapped and mentally ill people but I was still assisting them in their jobs in the community, And frankly I do not think the government is doing enough to get us off of fossil fuels. Petrol needs to be exorbitant to get people out of cars.

[@codacreator6162]

Like every other industry in America. Show me one industry that is in the business of growing jobs. The business community has, as its number one priority, always sought to continually reduce expenses in order to boost profits, show false growth, and reap their bonuses at the expense of labor and the consumer. When Pruitt said Trump resisted the influence of the special interests, I almost choked. If Murray Energy isn’t a particularly “special” special interest, I don’t know who is.

[@james-faulkner]

"Workers of the world unite, the only thing you have to lose are your chains!"

[@CulturalOasis]

@@jamesgarfoyle3188 Feeding your family whilst working in a dying industry and refusing to accept that your job is becoming obsolete so you do not learn how to work in a similar field thus putting your family at risk of going hungry when your employer inevitably closes is dumb….

[@creekwalker62]

One Koch brother down, one to go.

[@waywardgeologist2520]

Koch industries isn't going anyplace.

[@jazzzmonee]

Painful & slow pls

[@michaeltuffin5002]

We wish...theres 1000 Koch heads out there

[@michaeltuffin5002]

@@DocumentTheDownfall yes...money changes everybody including you and me....in fact the unforgiveness of debt is the one common reason that has bought down every empire

[@swayback7375]

@@michaeltuffin5002 but not this empire brother! Surely that could never happen here 🙄

[@MyFavoriteColorIsBLUE]

How did that work out for all of you miners?

[@carpo719]

They thought they were doing the right thing protecting their career, meanwhile their bosses weren't even bothering to take basic precautions to protect even their best workers. It's sad

[@juwar1843]

Penny Grant 👍 Coal has gone the way of the dinosaur. Trump was stupid to make such a promise two coal miners!🤔🤕🤥

[@Mark_Chandler]

and farmers

[@KtotheL]

i have friends here online this affected personally. i can say from my opinion/thoughts etc.. this is a sad situation, not necessary, AND just another FAILURE of our govt not developing and retraining in an area of our country that surely deserves it. it has to be done i love you all but you have to move on before the planet/earth can no longer recover.

[@longforgotten4823]

The fossil fuel barons won’t even acknowledge what is killing most of those whom toil in the mines.

[@mauricehustles]

Corruption should be treated as treason.

[@joshuapowell114]

On this stage, with things like climate change YES!

[@forzajuve4845]

but Americans act like corruption only happens in other countries

[@forzajuve4845]

@@joshuapowell114 all corruption

[@keithdarding1381]

​@@forzajuve4845 I don't know where you get that from. Most Americans are well of the corruption in their own country. It's one of the things we bitch about the most.

[@forzajuve4845]

@@keithdarding1381 I get it from American bashing other countries all the time about corruption

[@WPAPi3.14]

I love everything frontline has. Also, Ken Burns, also DW a German pbs. Growing up, I was mainly allowed to watch pbs. Thank you so much PBS. I wish the world turned off the other stuff and watched pbs.

[@marcosaguilar518]

PBS is as political as cnn

[@barbarahill9176]

@@marcosaguilar518 As opposed to what? PBS presents facts. Sorry if you are uncomfortable with facts. I mostly see exaggeration, untruths, and factually unsupported hyperbole from the fossil fuel industry and its "political" allies. I keep hoping to see some honesty and genuine altruism from them, but am repeatedly disappointed.

[@delete.102]

Frontline should be a course in high school

[@oncoucharrest5910]

@@marcosaguilar518 aw, do facts hurt your feelings snowflake?

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

@@barbarahill9176literally any organization who covers these kinds of topics are considered them as such at this point man by the people who wished they did not want to see.

[@jamesdunham1072]

I wish Murray could have lived 9 days more to see DT lose....

[@Mdebacle]

Somehow he would have known DeSantis is waiting in the wings.

[@zshakur]

One day we will look back at moments like this and ask ourselves WTF were we thinking....

[@TheMaryam1891]

I was asking that every day after Hillary lost to Trump.

[@ALCRAN2010]

"We" ??

[@thadkaltsulas5006]

They*, but we already wonder........

[@54tristin]

I do that now!

[@oncoucharrest5910]

@@aaronpara1680 you think there was a Presidential election in 2022? Wow, glad you are paying attention haha

[@fralemieux]

Watching this necessary film is like torture.

[@michaelcap9550]

Torture is excessive regulation by EPA that kills jobs.

[@jared1964]

@@michaelcap9550 Torture is letting future generations suffer without those regulations

[@connerfiscus3861]

@@michaelcap9550 The industry has been doing a good job killing jobs on its own without regulations...

[@matthewm9261]

This means nothing if china keeps building coal plants

[@jared1964]

@@matthewm9261 And that's why Chinese citizens constantly have to wear masks and be indoors because of the carbon dioxide in the air

[@jaixzz]

On behalf of those of us intending to continue breathing I Thank Barac for good sense.

[@joeb134]

The environmental movement would be an economic boom.

[@junglecat_rant]

Yes, but we in Europe and you in America don't get it and the steps into those possibilities aren't taken with verve.

[@ThatGuyz82]

If they would be an economic boom, then regulation would never be needed to prop them up. “The curious task of economics is to prove how little men know about what they imagine they can design.”

[@joeb134]

@@ThatGuyz82 You do realize that the industrial revolution would have passed us by if it wasn't for public investment right? You do realize that we heavily subsidize oil, coal, and natural gas right? We don't have prop it up for it to boom. It's gonna happen. The issue is that the countries who are investing will be the ones who are the suppliers of the boom and the ones who don't will be the consumer. I'd rather be the country to supply the goods and services rather than be reliant on China. Your argument hold no water no matter what obscure quote you use behind it.

[@jkholtgreve]

Look what happened to the markets when it looked like there was an infrastructure deal last week. O&G are dinosaurs- we need to aggressively fund nuclear too and the bill should be 10x larger but baby steps, I guess.

[@markcampbell7577]

Nobody wants economic growth. They believe economic growth is negative impact. They believe that living is the problem. It is the way we and the world are living. Life is not the problem. Pollution is the problem.

[@dwaineskully6515]

PBS makes the best documentaries

[@angelasorrentino1607]

Yes they Absolutely do have they best stories and documentaries !! 100% agree....

[@sethroberts634]

Umm.... they're disgustingly biased.

[@stephdrake2521]

Yes they are good and don’t forget your s on make ... PBS makes the best documentaries. Easy mistake

[@bestproto5117]

@Patrick J Mims PBS has made a lot of anti Trump documentaries yet it has not made a single documentary criticizing Joe Biden for the 1994 crime bill or taking on Obama for the rise in healthcare prices...... JUST in case you don't know PBS is a public channel it operates with tax payer to push an Anti GOP bias Republicans tried to abolish PBS in the past when bush was president but they failed because of democrats opposition and its clear why democrats opposed........

[@kennethbagdasar7253]

Despite their left-leaning bias, they’re still great - proud Republican

[@hydroaegis6658]

The irony of old, rich, and white Conservatives calling out old, rich and white Liberals for being old, rich and white.

[@keelyevans7692]

Yes the quick sand

[@judiesuh6858]

🤣

[@longforgotten4823]

Time to restore the scientific method to the environmental protection agency. Punish the polluters for their industrial blight on the common man. Make the corporations pay, make the rich man accountable, protect ecology for the future. Public health and the environment come first before profit.

[@sharond36]

Mmm, mmm, mmm, mm"#''?!

[@SmellsLikeContentt]

Seriously, we need thinkers who find Thomas Kuhn and John Rawls theories relevant and actually apply them.

[@SmellsLikeContentt]

Oh wait, and also share equal admiration for the planet like Rachel Carson did. Then, maybe then…

[@longforgotten4823]

@@SmellsLikeContentt her works are indeed well done. Let’s add Darwin, Malthus, And Paul Watson to that list.

[@jamesgarfoyle3188]

says everyone who works at a tech company or an office job. Are you people willing to help us folks who will lose their primary source of income because of EPA regulation? I can't train for a new job. WHy don't you leave your tech offices and try and learn a new skill. What part of it do you not understand? Obama would never call for coal tax if he had his own money invested in the industry.

[@CoyoteLoco1973]

I think we need to have an update on this. To show the aftermath.

[@tjsells9288]

Agreed!!

[@Gladescat]

Here's your update: Corporations can pollute all they want now. the EPA and regulatory agencies have been destroyed thanks to SCOTUS.

[@randibgood]

Especially after the most recent SCOTUS rulings. It's going to get ugly. Very, very ugly.

[@GThu1]

It's interesting to watch from Europe how average people fighting against their own health and to make rich people more rich. They belive in politicans time and time again, even they know those politicans lying to them and are only using them to gain more power and wealth. I couldn't decide between laugh or pity. Oh, and respect for those who are exceptions to this. They must have hard times.

[@duro845]

Have to put yourself in their position. Your ability to pay your mortgage and take care of your family comes first. If any of those plants shut down theres thousands out of work and there's no plan B as far as career options. Immediate problem of Bankruptcy, foreclosure and being broke vs a long-term affects of climate change. Ten out of 10 are gonna side with w.e keeps them employed.

[@hydroaegis6658]

I REALLY appreciate how Frontline gives opportunity for both sides to speak.

[@adrianfitch8387]

FRONTLINE has been known for that for over 30 years.

[@charlesbosse9669]

Hydro Aegis, I agree, I believe that there us little to no truth to the science of climate change. I believed at one time, but not anymore so much, for various reasons. I think we need politicians who are honest with us and not worry about powerful lobbyists lining each other's pockets. Do we need alternative energy sources, absolutely but people like obummers administration were trying to thrust that on us all at once, too much too fast. He was on the right track with clean energy,but you cannot change it that quickly for many reasons. We're you alive when we had leaded gasoline? Just curious.

[@srd7]

@@charlesbosse9669 Yeah, there’s definitely no truth to climate change. 50 degree Celsius in Canada just happens every other year.

[@P0RKINS2]

Psh… yeah okay lol

[@CrustyUgg]

@@srd7 no but this planet has dealt with climate change so many times.. just bc you weren’t here to witness it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

[@radicalbacon]

Bob Murray? The one who sued the John Oliver show?

[@bicyclebookster6510]

John Oliver's response video after winning that lawsuit was EPIC.

[@hertears14]

No, not Bob Murray, it’s Eat Shit Bob 🙃

[@Umar-rd7lw]

He is also the one who started world war 1. He is disgusting

[@ASkippingRock]

Campaign finance reform would prevent a lot of this intentional misinformation.

[@MommaLousKitchen]

❤️

[@Mdebacle]

Now that you mention it, that was Justice Alito (of Citizens United) who swore in Pruitt.

[@lorrainedejong3377]

Unfortunately too many Americans do not understand how serious the issue of climate change is.

[@matthewm9261]

I think Americans are more worried about feeding thir families and paying for college

[@adonis2003]

@@matthewm9261 tRump is out of office, we'll be fine feeding our families and sending them to college

[@matthewm9261]

@@adonis2003 speak for yourself

[@rajithafernando6091]

May be the climate advocates should stop using private jets and stop looking like bunch of hypocrites. That's one good way to get ppl to see ur point.

[@CelestialWoodway]

​@@adonis2003Wut

[@zshakur]

Tea Party...then MAGA. One day we will look back at moments like this and ask ourselves. "WTF were we thinking?"

[@johnathonholbrook4041]

The Boston tea party?

[@Drgonzosfaves]

@@johnathonholbrook4041 no, the Tea Party was created and funded by the Koch brothers and other trying wing oligarchs.

[@dadikkedude]

Olichargy! 🤗 You're not in control lol.

[@janedoe3915]

Yep, Republican corruption and greed r destroying this country thanks to the Republican majority Supreme Court making greater corruption in politics legal, gutting the voter rights act disenfranchising young, minority, disabled, poor, mostly Dem voters but some republican voters too, refusing to make a decision on gerrymandering bc they r well aware it’s unconstitutional, anti-democratic, and disenfranchises many M&L class voters, etc. By the time M&L class Republican voters figure out the Republican Party and their donors r leading us right off the cliff and advantaging our foreign adversaries, it’s probably going to be too late. China, w/Russia’s help, is determined to become the world leader. Autocracy w/CCP ideology will become the dominate ideology throughout the world. The Republican Party and their wealthy donors don’t have a problem w/this bc it’s primarily the M&L classes who r going to lose most all their rights, including the 2nd amendment (most, if not all, citizens can’t have guns in autocracies), and have to live as low paid slaves for the oligarchs. We’ll see even more socialism for the rich/corporations and harsh capitalism for the M&L classes. If greedy corporations continue their capture government and pushing for policies which benefit the those corporations regardless of the price the M&L classes and the country as a whole will pay, we’ll be returning to the US similar to the beginning when we were controlled by a king on another continent. Republican voters will then learn it’s not going to work out well for anyone in the M&L classes and since we will have already lost our rights, like our right to vote or for our votes to count, we won’t be able to change the situation. We’d have to elect a bunch of far-left politicians to reduce the income and wealth inequality, legalized corruption, and corrupt republican judges and I just don’t see that happening. The wealthy and corporations have far too much $ and can use as much as they want to drown out the voices of the M&L classes and Dem politicians, especially the far-left progressives. This is so depressing!

[@msc2u1]

KKK and the likes....all the same

[@rickiex]

Bob murray - died Oct 25 2020..... Well, at least there's a silver lining in all of this

[@adonis2003]

Not soon enough

[@daniellirette7226]

All I can hear is the squirrel 🐿 “eat shit bob” 🤣

[@autistic8bit203]

@@daniellirette7226 glad someone else remembered that

[@davidethompson1271]

I hope he spent his last days in pain and misery.

[@jamesscully529]

@@davidethompson1271 He suffered from pulmonary fibrosis and applied for government benefits for black lung disease shortly before his death. This after he denied claims by his miners over black lung disease. No one deserves to die in pain, but he does deserve to rot in hell.

[@ninamartinez5596]

After watching this, I feel less hopeful about the future. I knew a lot of it, but having it put in order, and clear perspective, it's so much worse.😕

[@camcherry1496]

As greed prevails the earth will fail

[@leeholmes9962]

You know it's bad when STUPID PEOPLE PROTEST ON BEHALF OF THE COAL AND GAS OIL CORPORATION'S... THESE HAVE BEEN A NIGHTMARE FOR THIS Planet,, like I say there's too many idiots running around begging to die ... , WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN A🙄

[@bobbyevans8136]

Remember that when Biden came into office these regulations were rolled back n strengthened, and we rejoined the Paris Agreement. Whether or not a next republican president rerolls this back? Who knows.

[@YoungWolf567]

@@bobbyevans8136Yes, but Biden still is approving fossil fuel subsidies and increasing production. So we are on track to fail to stay below 1.5

[@christinemarie4769]

Who wants to be protected against clean water, clean air, regulating carcinogenic toxins and holding industry responsible? Sad.

[@davidkettelle1581]

“The triumph of myth over truth”, this is the quote that sums up this issue and many, many others like it being overturned.

[@paulblack8887]

Remember kids: shilling for the right people is the easy life

[@adonis2003]

Thank God that only lasted 4yrs. We have someone in office that doesn't want to destroy the Earth 🌎

[@carlosparedes9620]

The dope in the white house is succeeding in destroying America have you ran into any Afghans or Haitians lately, or how bout paying more for everything or...

[@TheChamp70]

Good documentary, keep up the good works @FRONTLINE PBS.

[@nofascists]

I love watching Frontline documenteries. So informative. Our civilzation is smart enough to recognize that the bus is heading for the cliff but the bus driver won't turn the steering wheel or slow down because he will loose money if he does. And those bus riders? They are us, his decendents, and our decendents who are powerless to stop him. So how smart are we really?

[@wandameadows5736]

The EPA & Frontline are scamming good intentioned people with False Catastrophes. You know your a good scammer when you have the good intentioned people on your side & promoting your scams.

[@michaelfant4052]

@@wandameadows5736 Checks and Drugs HUH to give to the young and old in fossil fuel states.

[@billchun5243]

I hope with the crazy weather they are experiencing that they would understand the effects of climate change is real and they need to do something about it. But there will be always deniers or greedy people who are willing to destroy the environment, unfortunately 😞

[@recidivistfighter4673]

Rush Limbaugh brought this mind set on to the “masses” beginning in 1989. It’s a good thing for all And the environment he’s passed. Lung cancer. How ironic. 🙏🏼 Poetic justice !!

[@xSirDudex]

How come no one ever addresses the issue that coal mining is simply a shit job where you work in a dangerous cave and your long term reward is black lung? I'd rather work in a grocery store.

[@waywardgeologist2520]

Then please stop using all the products coal provides.

[@xSirDudex]

@@waywardgeologist2520 No, I say use it....use it all up. Then we won't have to worry about it. And I get to see the chaos from what happens when we run out of it. Also, how much coal is used doesn't change the fact that it's a shit job. It always will be.

[@adonis2003]

They're too stupid to realize that coal is a dying industry and afraid to learn anything new in this century. Times are changing and those who don't adjust get left behind.

[@MommaLousKitchen]

Well, the black lung comes with a waaaaay better check. It's short term gratification.

[@MommaLousKitchen]

And grocery store jobs are slowly losing Thier need for actual humans as well. A. I. Will take care of those in our lifetime probably. Dramatically.

[@the___Fan]

I love the voice. I can't watch without it

[@scottrosenthal3437]

The moderator for Frontline is Will Lyman. Incredible voice over artist.

[@brendakipkemoi2738]

Nice to put a name to his voice.I go to sleep listening to Frontline

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

Murray the type of dude that says stuff like "You know who I am!" "You know what I can do with one phone call"

[@jermicidal7506]

You should watch the John Oliver episode about him. He is absolute scumbag. There is even a part where he made a secretary look for and pick up a kidney stone.

[@johnqpublic770]

Yes watch both episodes about Bob Murray and the SLAPP suit he brought against John Oliver.

[@matkodoris9099]

"Eat shit, Bob Murray!" John Oliver

[@pamelaporter4750]

What is "over regulation" of the environment? We have only 1 planet. What happens after the water is so polluted, plants and animals no longer thrive? Next will be humans.

[@itsmeangie123]

You're disturbing Misses EPA. You handled Flint just wonderfully... thanks for all of your help. 🤒

[@carlosparedes9620]

The very thing they were supposedly trying to protect demonrats can't do anything right, they never produced anything useful or provided jobs much less work a day in their life yet they want to save the world, Flint water tasty, thanks to a Dem near u

[@mikeharper3459]

@@carlosparedes9620 if you knew anything legit about Flint’s water debacle you might be worth a discussion - but you don’t, so you’re not. If the dumb city manager hadn’t tried to take shortcuts sourcing the water, they wouldn’t have had the problem.

[@atomariola6410]

The gas price issue is perplexing: gas in Europe universally is four times the cost of the U.S and many large cities in Europe require huge fees to drive within certain city limits. Why do Americans feel entitled to gasoline that is cheaper than listerine per gallon? Perhaps because GM bought Denver and LA's rail car systems so that oil and car dependence was an outcome?

[@RalfStephan]

It's because the U.S. have the role of imperium at the moment, and without oil/gas no military vehicle can move.

[@Johnhamsta]

Basically correct - the U.S. Automotive industry bought and shut down trolleys and choked potential commuter rail with winding highways and poor neighborhood planning. Marketing in the decades following the second World War was massively focused on getting two cars into every U.S. household. We're hooked.

[@atomariola6410]

@@RalfStephan No. Incorrect. The military could command its own gasoline input and still permit american consumers who drive,. mostly without necessity, to pay what europe pays. like 5 dollars a litre. the two are independent. but nice try.

[@atomariola6410]

@@Johnhamsta due to a systemic program deintegrating high speed rail, or even simply comprehensive public transit in secondary cities, people are indentured servants to the automobile, which is a deeply antiquated technology . No, your electric car does not yield a significant net loss of a carbon footprint, as your fuel comes from burning coal. Americans can vote instead for football stadiums a comprehensive train system. But they won't, and that's historically true in Dewnver and Seattle. The Sports stadiums came first. Well, when the planet is uninhabitable in 20 years, I hope you enjoy your stadium.

[@Johnhamsta]

@@atomariola6410 I certainly don't enjoy the propensity to construct entertainment and monopoly over infrastructure and education. Electric cars are certainly not a substitution for effective high-speed mass-transit. You may be mistaken in your assumption that U.S. voters can meaningfully impact our city design through voting - as most infrastructure choices are deliberated by unelected appointees and special interest groups - the average voters has been massively disenfranchised by Gerrymandering and vote suppression, coupled with misrepresented choices to vote on. The money primary may not be on the lawbooks - but it is indubitably in effect due to campaign and initiative finance policies - taking public decision-making from a democratic forum and placing it into the hands of those able to afford the arachic and lengthy voting cycle. Anyways, I appreciate the discussion, and hope you have a great rest of your night : )

[@Learn2oo]

33:10 LMAO at Bob Murray calling climate change "a theology" among a string of terms that are things that are incorrect.

[@arturosoto24]

Did you recommend Scott Pruitt to Donald Trump? Murray: no comment Later on…. Murray: I gave Mr. Trump an action plan about 3 pages long, of what he needed to do with his administration, he already knocked out page one…. Scooby-do moment……..

[@parkerholden7140]

I retired as an electrical engineer after 40 years is several different heavy industries. I never had a problem with the charter and objectives of the EPA. What I did have a problem with was regulations and interruptation of regulation that did not have a scientifc basis and little or nothing to improve the enviroment. The objective seemed to be to see how thick the regulation book could be.

[@kenrobison9528]

Who was the most coal-fired power plant in the world? Not the United States of America.

[@akhripasta2670]

US is responsible for 13% of Global emissions with just 4% of Global population Ranks at No. 2, after China Per capita emission at 14 (let me remind y0u the global average is 4.8)

[@Katchi_]

@@akhripasta2670 They are not big on reading or numbers...

[@Madronaxyz]

You'll be happy to hear the Scott Pruitt just lost his primary

[@markdonaldson3643]

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[@lucasthomos6648]

seek the guidance of a professional.

[@markdonaldson3643]

@@lucasthomos6648 I watch youtube videos and take courses, baby steps but it works for me

[@lucasthomos6648]

@@markdonaldson3643 I’m a new investor as well and I use a broker MORLEY PERCY , she’s been guiding me with my investment since I began late Nov and I’ve been able to accrue a profit of $426,000 with a principal of $85,000

[@markdonaldson3643]

@@lucasthomos6648 that’s amazing

[@lucasthomos6648]

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[@mesropmadzharyan6727]

Lobbyist should be outlawed

[@emiliorosa9896]

thank you frontline for this story n ALWAYS being so professional n getting to the true amazing work made GOD BLESS YOU and God bless America

[@emiliorosa9896]

@Unknown User PLEASE stop ur negative words don't need it. Positive words oily

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Frontline does not believe in God. In fact, they write stories about how the Church is filled with dirty bum-sniffing pedos/chomos.

[@twonumber22]

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 lol

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

@@emiliorosa9896 By your standards, "negative words" is anything that you disagree with.

[@emiliorosa9896]

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 ok. Sir.

[@npxmnpxm]

It seems as if the richer they are, the more they fear their own mortality.

[@paulmccarter908]

Mortality looms ever larger as their increasing wealth can buy nearly everything.. Except time.

[@hithere5553]

“It is easier for a camel to go through the ey of a needle than it is for a rich man to go to heaven”- Jesus Christ of Nazareth

[@billynotreally3793]

Makes me glad we are in 2021.

[@slackhackman9115]

The last 4 years were akin to passing a stubborn kidney stone. 🤢

[@JoellaConover]

The EPA Must work with people as apposed to their dictatorial leadership. The EPA Is Not the Law of the land. They should not have the power to Hurt People and bankrupt them . They should make suggestions for farmers to better their crops and also help with the environment. Not close down peoples livelihood. We want small farmers. not corporate Farms.

[@supernovaempress7311]

This needs to be reposted and/or updated due to the recent environmental disaster our planet is going through, especially when it's so apparent that the entire world's ecological system is now most likely unable to restore that no one can deny our critical status of existence as a collective of human beings but even more important, the place of our planet in this universe. How far are we willing to allow the wrong people; Governments, Communist, Leaders and those who hold power only because of their wealth and/or value of their vote and other "authorities", make the self-serving decisions that are literally killing the future of this entire planet, along with everything dependent on it? Status, whether it be wealth, political or fame won't matter if we're all DEAD!! What's the point in having the EPA if it doesn't take action in its only purpose, to protect the environment?!?!?! Amanda Mattison

[@jaimebond]

The point of no return has been crossed. The environment is so toxic is dying. Rain is toxic and non drinkable now. Nuclear waste disposed in the oceans in secret. It is evil.

[@nofascists]

Make no mistake. This planet will still be here long after all life on it dies. Humans and their nature are like a virus to life on this planet.

[@loopylynda1974]

I wish that they were required to sign a legal contract that says that their future generations don't get to let their money save them but rather they get dropped in the front line of impact and the back of the line for aid from climate change disasters and stripped of their wealth as it will go to helping to mitigate their ancestors wealth accumulation at our future's expense

[@mikedonaldson1820]

These were sad times for the world.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

The EPA’s main problem is that of marketing. It is out of touch with America’s industrial workers. We need to solve the issues of climate change, and in a democracy, you need to recruit as many people to your cause as possible. The EPA should have been doing town halls and outreach programs to show concern for the struggles regulations will cause for these people while advocating for the benefits.

[@ShaudaySmith]

Most EPA issues didn't seem to involve pivoting communities out of Coal jobs/energy dependency. I agree with you. If they had better outreach and more comprehensive marketing to target consumers, not just B2B. They are in charge of regulating companies but these companies employ regular people who don't understand or care much more than "you're agency wants to kill my job and give me nothing to replace it." It's a bad stance to take in the face of a community that is focused more on providing, right now, for their families, not for the environment of a planet they have no control of.

[@rckli]

There should be laws preventing people in congress from lying to people But all we can do is “vote them out” 🤷🏾‍♂️ How do you vote someone out when they’re also lying to people saying “they’re lying about me lying” 🙃

[@LeoPard-HQ]

12:54. That smile at the end give me Goosebumps.🥶

[@slackhackman9115]

But don't we.. kinda like.. need the EPA ?

[@nicholasking7120]

No

[@oncoucharrest5910]

@@nicholasking7120 enjoy undrinkable water and unbreathable air

[@HeavyMetal45]

Maybe 1/10th of what it is, sure.

[@JRP813]

God bless Joe Biden We need to save our planet

[@keithdarding1381]

We need to stop using the word lobbying and call it what it really is, bribery.

[@cchoo111]

it’s really crazy that we allowed a reality tv star to become president like wow lmaooo

[@bobs182]

And a billionaire who convinced workers that he is interested in helping them.

[@cchoo111]

@@bobs182 you hit the nail on the head lmao

[@un0travieso]

I hope all you Oklahomans are enjoying your tornados, and yes you can have another!

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Best journalism on tv today. 😊👊

[@dertythegrower]

Not really. Reuters is the most world wide and unbiased center group for news globally. Not pbs funded by billionaires.

[@frawdulent]

PBS is the most Liberal garbage ever.

[@matthew-jy5jp]

@@dertythegrower Reuters covers all the world. PBS is just the United States " public broadcast systems " ( Paid donation from viewers like me buddy) but thanks anyway for your words of wisdom. For my country this is the best journalism on TV for me. Okay? Does that make it better for you ? can you sleep at night now ? You do know people are entitled to their own opinion right ? And I'm pretty sure everybody's parents taught them, if you ain't got nothing good to say. you should probably just shut the F up. 😊✌

[@matthew-jy5jp]

@@frawdulent says the conservative 😂 least one liberal say is actually true ya 🍆 we all know you people are gullible, naive and shall i dare so Slow af, but we just didn't think you were straight stupid. I thank you blah Ryan blah. You just proved that theory correct 😊✌ 🍆

[@Shari466]

The guy saying Obamas plan would cause utility rates to go up doesn't pan out. Trump did away with all of Obamas EPA rules and from 2017 to this day our natural gas and electric bills have skyrocketed. After 2017 the gas company started charging us $29 a month just for the meter. We'd look at the bill and the actual cost of the gas would $7 but the total bill was over $40 ??? The electric company is constantly raising rates. A few yrs ago the people in our city had a lawsuit against the power company for price gouging. Our bills literally had doubled in one month.

[@shipaskof8371]

Thats cheap. Irish are charged almost 50 euro a week fir gas heat.

[@seanmolloy6188]

The ignorance of people never cease to amaze me. when will they learn big business never does anything but what's in their best interest only and they do not care about the people and we never will.

[@SuperScurly]

Congrats FRONTLINE great work !!

[@brairr9966]

As we see and hear what it always boils down to is cutting into profits for the big boys.....no effort to work toward finding a way where all can have both but the big boys don't want to lose one dollar that can be put in their pockets. The threats of the price has to go up where the citizens have to pay and will pay and the employees will have to be laid off. Never working together toward a win win resolve for all. ....and as long as those industries who are detrimentally affecting our environment can shovel money in the direction of presidents, vice presidents, and others which Scot Pruitt shows will corrupt everyone loses.

[@whackp264]

Reliving this was excruciating. Great retelling of this part of the tRump disaster.

[@mattyoung4336]

There are too many old people in govt. what use is their "experience" when their values are simply bought by the highest, loudest bidder?

[@michaeljohnson1576]

7:12 this is the problem with these people, particularly Boomers. They already know that climate change won't severely affect them in their lifetimes so they press on with reckless abandon. Screw our and our kids futures, huh....

[@marcinkarpinski9163]

It shocks me to see how uninformed Republican voters are. On the other hand it doesn't shock me at all how exploited and manipulated they are by their own party.

[@bobs182]

The Republican party is owned by wealthy people and their corporations. Telling people that helping rich only goes so far so they get people stirred up about religion, guns, immigrants, welfare, abortion, etc. to get votes.

[@katnip6289]

For all the money the rich coal owners spent on the lobbying, lawyers and special interests it would have been cheaper to just make sure our air and water was cleaner.

[@MommaLousKitchen]

That's what I don't understand.

[@jameysummers1577]

Everything trump has done has been a disaster. I love watching the people that applaud him while he is taking them down with the ship. It's sinking while they are whooping and clapping.

[@a.gabbey5569]

Say what you want but emissions were down during his admin though.

[@robertpendergrass7996]

@@a.gabbey5569 lol !! When where and how ? Actually how many coal mines we're reopened ? Fracking pretty much was idle. Because of Saudi Arabian oil Surplus to American energy corporations Normal corporate greed at the expense of American workers. Continuation of 40, 1980-2020 years of Regenomics. Republican party economic tax programs. Tax breaks to the richest 1% and corporate America at the expense of blue collar middle class workers and the working class poor . Over 40years 7.25hr minimum wage . Think about these crazy ass political corporate policies !!!

[@jtgd]

Dissolves regulations for “pro growth” policies, then ignores problems from that. Friend of a friend’s family’s company got away with fines for chemical pollution when Trump got in office

[@bokani79]

Everyone should read Jane Meyer’s “Dark Money” about the Koch Brothers.

[@Modifiedtaco]

I don’t hate too many people, but I truly hate ex president tRump.

[@timothyzhuk2847]

Grass root? 20 million dollars of funding, that doesn’t sound like a grass root.

[@charlieadler4195]

That gentleman who said early in this documentary,”In MY Lifetime”,makes me sick..Sir what about YOUR children and your children’s children??? I do understand the economic impact on certain fossil fuel companies and the people who are employed by them has to be addressed but if it is about the children as Conservatives like to say,then how do you not act?? The movement to disavow Scientists warnings on Climate change is going to cost us a lot more than money.

[@vitnos3]

The sad thing is just that it most likely won't effect his children because they have enough money to counteract it and protect themselves. :(

[@justmissjamey]

Some of us do not have kids. Humans should be mostly taken out. We destroy everything we touch. Save the animals, and not the human kind.

[@moonmunster]

Frontline needs to do a good documentary on the history of oil in Oklahoma. The families involved, the marriages, the inheritances. the Indians verses the Anglos.

[@tatianadentremont-selesky670]

“In my lifetime”, that’s what you need to remember it’s not any concern to you if the worst effects of Global Warming won’t be in your lifetime.

[@E46_M3]

came here looking for this comment.

[@AlejandroGarcia-bl1gv]

All I know is Donald and epstein we're great friends

[@scrambledegg5079]

I believe you’re thinking of Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

[@briantyson7744]

Donald and Epstein partied in public, Gates and Clinton partied in private.

[@AlejandroGarcia-bl1gv]

@@briantyson7744 yuppp great friends

[@marissadower-morgan3313]

GOP will push our country over the edge if given the chance

[@michaelcap9550]

Progressives are doing it now.

[@Lifeisgoodbelieve1in3]

What about allowing all the chemical companies to do their studies. Only to let the EPA know that their chemicals are safe and they get a green light even today some of the most harsh chemicals are being used in our environment and nothing's being done about it

[@BrianJ677]

A lawsuit should be a suit to ensure that companies produce power at affordable prices, while the Federal Government assists frugally, helping to procure the equipment required to effectively reduce pollutants.

[@aurtisanminer2827]

The only thing I see in bob murray is a complete lack of understanding the importance of anyone but himself.

[@carlosparedes9620]

Never produced anything in their lives, making rules all day, I have nothing but contempt, Bill Murray

[@iamtheman7018]

I think you mean Bob Murray. Bill Murray is a well known comedian.

[@artmchugh5644]

So l is Bob Murray !!!!!✈😀😀😀🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raymondmatila5434]

What do Rich ppl want more of is money simple and with money comes more power!

[@robertsolberg7666]

I think that there is too many people on the earth.