War on the Sea | IJN Campaign | Ep.1 - Rip Roaring Start!

[@oneoldcurmudgeon403]

Most of the play throughs I've watched the players do not use torpedo planes to launch torpedoes. It is truly a pleasure that you do.

[@tigdamch.6321]

Seems most play the American campaign so torpedo's have a high dud chance. IJN its subs and torpedo bombers all the way!

[@colindouglas7769]

@@tigdamch.6321 I think the US torpedo bombers carry a different more reliable marque of torpedo (Mk-14s) than those carried by the subs (Mk-10s). The Japanese Lance torpedoes were extremely reliable and effective.

[@tigdamch.6321]

@@colindouglas7769 Not too sure on that one to be honest. Might be a bit of confirmation bias but it certainly feels like most of the air or launched drop US torpedo's are dudding. Yes the Japanese torpedo's are fantastic.

[@LewisB3217]

@@tigdamch.6321 they likely are if it’s early - mid war, we had torp troubles until later on

[@tigdamch.6321]

@@LewisB3217 Yeah was playing it a little yesterday. Seems air dropped are a bit better but still had a few duds for USA.

[@michaell1473]

The trick with wolfpacks is to fire from the rear sub first and as those torps pass the next one, fire the second subs torps, etc. The idea is that they all hit their targets in the column at the same time. If they have more than a few seconds of reaction time they will turn away and you will probably miss.

[@idv1328]

Exactly!!

[@firestorm165]

I use a variant of the wild weasel missions of the RAAF. One sub makes as much noise as possible to lure in destroyers while the others sit there quietly in order to deliver a type 95 to their broadside. Once the destroyers are out of the picture the subs can take care of the rest piecemeal

[@shoukatsukai]

Its the same thing with air strikes. The ahead squadron should hit the farthest target so that all bombers hit their targets at the same time, splitting the AA.

[@chisox551]

The Japanese Subs did not have Rear Torpedo tubes, so they always had to attack from the front when conducting a Torpedo attack against an Enemy Target.

[@idv1328]

@@chisox551 ahhh, right! SorryAll.

[@sedlacekmartin6630]

Hello, few points. 1- try with torpedo bombers attack from both sides at one. 2- after droping the torpedo, turn hard on side. Never fly over. AA is targeting planes with torps over empty ones but without better target it still kill you. 3- USN small flak is a thing. Always remember that. 4- USN light cruisers are actually much more dangerous than heavy ones. 5- try fire manually, it works like magic. Great work, please continue. Rgrds

[@colindouglas7769]

Rejoice, Taff! We have the good torpedoes, so we need to use them in the right way and get a bigger bang for our buck. If you are going to persist with the wolfpack approach, you need to fire from the farthest away sub first, wait until those torpedoes pass your second sub in the line before launching its torpedoes and then repeat this for the closest sub. This should have the effect of each spread reaching the target at the same time giving the enemy time to manoeuvre and take evasive action. Once you've launched your fish, don't hang around at periscope depth; dive away and make yourself scarce.

[@conservativemike3768]

Kudos on letting Kate attacks proceed unmolested & with very good camera closeups.

[@devrossik]

Another really nice cinematic effort, Taff! Good to see you selecting submarines as part of your starting forces. IJN submarines, and their torpedoes especially, are very effective weapons. It *is* good to have torpedoes that actually work. I usually recommend using submarines singly, but your second attack by a sub group was outstandingly effective! Don't forget that the IJN submarines also carry float planes, making them a very effective scouting force as well. For that matter, so do nearly all light and heavy cruisers. Also, you are almost always correct to prioritize sinking the transports. Don't think of them as sinking 12,000 tons, think of them as sinking 1250 troops. Much easier than trying to battle those troops on land! I'm glad you're going to redirect your supplies up to the Shortland Islands. I've seen others overlook that port right up there, which is a shame. You definitely want the port. Based on your command point rewards, you appear to have selected a high level of difficulty. Good luck!

[@MrNicoJac]

I think that, if we could time-travel and redo WW2, it would have been very effective (and cruel) to let the troop transports through, but then sink all subsequent food supplies. (assuming you have the intel and forces to intercept the right ships, of course) That seems like a smart way to have the Japanese commit more and more resources for nothing, without having their losses be too much too sudden which might scare them off into a defensive posture. Would you agree with this thought experiment, or am I overlooking things?

[@devrossik]

@@MrNicoJac Not really. Food doesn't fight back, troops do. Sink the troop transports first.

[@mjszczepankiewicz8496]

What a great day to start watching a new playthrough

[@damianbrown7702]

I know American MK-13 torps and their seemingly 2/3 dud chance has you doubting torpedo bombers- but the Japanese Type-91 torps were notorious for their reliability, would love to see more big Kate torp runs this series.

[@nickmitsialis]

NOT only are the Japanese torps are reliable, they were notoriously deadly---the torps were greatly feared as the 'long lance' torpedoes. On more than one occasion, a handful of Japanese Destroyers made life difficult for US Light and Heavy Cruiser squadrons by firing a spread of 'long lances' into them.

[@MrNicoJac]

@@nickmitsialis Life was made difficult for the US Navy _mostly_ by incompetent admirals and captains, sadly.... You're probably already familiar with it, but just in case: kzbin.info/aero/PLMK9a-vDE5zGRthqKrcdizbIrKc-9MQFk

[@filthydisgustingape5354]

@@MrNicoJac that and the Japanese "trained like they were fighting a war". They were prepared for the risks, whereas US navy brass was far too timid

[@chisox551]

The Torpedo dud problem was on basically all American Torpedoes during the war, especially on the MK-14, which was the main American Torpedo that was carried by the American Submarines.

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

Excellent editing. I’ve watched this campaign several times now and this is by far the best, well done

[@brandonbrown2912]

I do agree with you for the tedious feeling for the aircraft with TTE mod. All of the encounters tend to take so long to resolve. I'm hopeful it will be more ironed out in the future!

[@chisox551]

Here's a tip: I would not start with a Carrier just because I would not want to waste command points. Your best options to start with are: Battlegroup consisting of at least 2 heavy cruisers, and probably 3 destroyers, and a convoy with 2 Destroyer escorts and Oilers and merchants, and Submarines to blockade the New Herberdes, then later, you can get battleship groups with Yamato, etc., and Shokaku-class Aircraft carriers.

[@bigmac60]

Great start. Nice to see torpedoes being effective

[@kruger2035]

Always excited for more War on the Sea!

[@spartanleonidus238]

I really enjoyed your presentation and commentary! o7

[@internetoldie]

Taff, I know you probably don't read these - but I absolutely love watching your campaign, sometimes I'm so exhausted after work I just want a cup of tea and to watch something relaxing and interesting, so thanks for providing the content!

[@internetoldie]

@Achilles What a sad and toxic comment, shows that someone is deeply unhappy in life. I left a comment to a content creator, nothing more.

[@e.najorodnerolf2688]

there are many mods that are actually cool that make the game exciting "Tokyo express" is one of them there's also "operation magazine"/"abdacom defense"(adds the dutch east indies fleet and British east indies fleet which i thought you might like and the austalian fleet) /"pacific campaign"(which enables a campaign to all campaigns in the intire pacific) the reason why i wont you to try these mods is because ppl say the actual vanilla is kinda boring so they added some tweaks and added some ships and aircraft for the players to enjoy and i hope you play them

[@mato5758]

The best strategy I`ve found is use 3 or 4 single subs (NOT in a wolfpack!!!!!!!) just outside the enemy main base, to pick off main units coming out. The Allied carriers tend to hang out south or south-east of Rennell Island,so have some units there to knock them off (and airsearch planes),otherwise their planes will constantly strafe/rocket/torpedoe you. And whichever side you play,the enemy will go for Guadalcanal,so have multiple units of 3 or 4 ships each to isolate that port and pick them off,using your ships and the islands as barriers (they do not need to be moving about,but can be static)

[@UnicornGamingRX03]

Wolfpack and Torgamaster are the best guys who made the series of war on the sea.

[@SturmGewehr1944x]

FYI, strafing destroyers is quite effective.

[@georgecoventry8441]

A rank 3 port in Shortlands should be done ASAP. It helps a lot to have a shorter resupply range for your ships. But it can't do repairs. For that you need to return to Rabaul.

[@tomblake189]

Nice to see torpedoes actually working but what's with the command points getting barely any

[@devrossik]

I believe the lower command point yield is due to selecting a higher level of difficulty.

[@qd7260]

Probably the games way of showing how japan had less ships than the U.S at this point in the war

[@marvinm8343]

Re: CP. It has something to do with the latest patches. To address the pacing issue. CP is now given per week depending on the ports/airfields you have. Enemy sunk CP points range from 1-5 depending on difficulty settings.

[@xWarLegendx]

@@qd7260even during this point in the war, the IJN had more ships than the USN

[@Stormyy-zg5we]

I totally agree with your statement about the aircraft in the tokyo express, aircraft spam by the AI is extremely frustatring because the AI can instantly spot you and so they launch 5 waves of fighters with bombs, CAS and bombers that kill your fleet

[@Freezerman71]

This game has a bit of a Silent Hunter V meets World of Warships vibe even though I no longer play Wows because its no longer fun. Great video TAFF you are awesome dude.

[@chisox551]

Yeah. I agree, WOWS kind of sucks. It says command your own fleet like a strategy game but all you do is sit there and fight enemy ships as the Ship you chose. On the other hand, War on the Sea (this game) is MUCH better! It's actually a strategy game and you get to command your own fleet and command it into battle.

[@chisox551]

I agree. Well, I dont agree with the Silent Hunter 5 part, but WOWS I agree, even though I think this game, War on the Sea, is MUCH better than WOWS.

[@bimbkin2830]

I agree with you about that mod.... WAAAYY to many air attacks it does get frustrating..... i totally would just get out of them right away

[@NefariousKoel]

Agree on the airpower overkill being a constant bother. I knew that I wouldn't run the mod because of that. Had such overly repetitive experiences in Silent Hunter 4 many years ago with aircraft attacks every damn hour or two within many areas of the Pacific. I would manually mod the values down to about 1 sighting a day or two. Drove me nuts beforehand.

[@arthurcrego8297]

Very nice, more Subs for sure

[@ARescueToaster]

Great to see some War on the Sea again! It's actually 50% off on Steam right now - I might have to buy it finally

[@marcush2220]

nice looking game, thank you for sharing :)

[@DanielHammersley]

Lvl-3 airfield! Unsinkable aircraft Carriers islands are. Malta, anyone? ;) Cracking good show with the subs!

[@georgecoventry8441]

The one option I disabled in the game was collisions between ships, because there were way too many of them occurring (mostly in the enemy forces). It just got ridiculous. Everything else works great. Subs are very formidable, and the Japanese are wise to start the game with at least 4 of them stationed around Guadalcanal...preferably 6 of them ASAP.

[@aceofspadesattorney]

A mod you’d like, eh…? I think I know of one-the Pacific Mod (Pacific Campaign Mod? Not exactly sure on the name…) Because it’s across the span of the Pacific, aircraft are less likely to spam one location as they may not have the range to get there. Also, aircraft cost engineering and fuel so if you run a base out of those the enemy has to stop using the planes, I do believe.

[@choccymuffi]

The costs do NOT effect AI as they don't resupply like the player

[@aceofspadesattorney]

@@choccymuffi Of course they don’t. This is why I hate AI-they never seem to play by the rules. I mean, I get it, they have to have more stuff so you’ve got more to shoot at, but the kind of battleship spam and Bogue spam the AI loves to put out is especially infuriating. Oh well, at least the supply constraints are a challenge for the player, it’s still a fun mechanic I suppose.

[@brandonbrown2912]

Great to see the campaign revival!

[@daveb.4383]

Level 3 port first then start working hard on building new airfields and building up existing airfields to get as much air support as possible as soon as possible seeing the AI is not subject to command points to control the number of ships they use or send out against you! The only thing they ARE STUCK WITH is weekly drops of supplies, troops and fuel so make sure you keep knocking out those freighters as much as possible because invasions are coming, and they may send those convoys around Minolta Island and sneak in that way from the North it is a common tactic from the USN AI!

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Excellent - Torps that actually work :D

[@DeltaPeak_1]

Nice to see Taff make war on the sea videos again!

[@aidanserad1143]

DEFINITELY a Level 2 Airfield would be better pick I think!

[@esbenk.d.jensen9345]

Airfield ! Strong start !

[@bruceday450]

great ep

[@civsully1740]

Your ships have longer duration so I suggest building up the AF in the Shortlands to be able to support your mobile attack forces. Of course I say that without any knowledge of how the game actually plays out except for watching this vid. I just subscribed to follow your play and learn the game mechanics. Thx again!

[@joestiller4270]

Try going for the port as it will save so much traveling time for your fleets. They seem a bit ridiculous on points awarded for classes of ships destroyed.

[@NefariousKoel]

Yeah fleet resupply for better turnaround time. Especially at the rate the subs are shooting torpedoes.

[@poweredbydonuts201]

Well done Admiral!

[@daveb.4383]

If you want better luck with your torpedo planes pick a plane assign a target break and attack rinse and repeat for each plane this way here, they are each individually going for a target and not by formational orders and formational drops which can cause more misses than hits plus if the lead plane is shot down it doesn't matter they each have their orders so no confusion or miss drops.

[@johnschlong5826]

Loved the vid

[@johansoons8413]

i like this content

[@pac7260]

I've waited for it!! So great

[@chisox551]

25:56 good day for the Japanese submariners! Sunk 2 Heavy Cruisers, Freighters, and a Battleship! Also, an ok-good for the Japanese Torpedo bomber pilots, as they sunk Freighters too. ONE STEP CLOSER TO VICTORY FOR TAFF!

[@arifnasfi801]

Oh yea one more thing Taff, you can use normal Zero fighter as kamikaze plane, and its extremely efficient against anything smaller than heavy cruisers...And to add damage, you can straffled the target a bit before plungging yourself into the target...

[@ijnfleetadmiral]

They manage to list all the ships and make ships like Mikuma and I-23 (sunk before the Guadalcanal campaign) unavailable, yet DD Sawarabi is alive and well despite having been sunk in a storm in December 1932. 😆

[@lucasn4077]

With most bombers, it’s best to split them up into individual divisions, that way they don’t drop in formation which causes them to miss frequently as could be seen on the heavy cruiser and light cruiser strike.

[@chisox551]

They are already split into divisions of 4.

[@lucasn4077]

@@chisox551 I’m saying that they should split into solo divisions. The other bombers drop in formation which causes them to miss more frequently than if they dropped at their own free will. It is way more effective against targets like CA’s and CL’s.

[@chisox551]

@@lucasn4077 And CV's and BB's?

[@lucasn4077]

@@chisox551 it’s hard for the bombers to miss them anyways

[@chisox551]

@@lucasn4077 Alr. Your just talking about CA's and CL's?

[@FlyingDutchmanSims]

Since you know, you like ships games and stuff, have you tought about bringing Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts to the channel? Next update we should be getting USA, Japan, Russia and a few other nations to that game also Edit: There's no planes in that game also LOL

[@richardbuchs3815]

Taft, a Leval 2 Airbase. Have your defense already in place, Before you Up- grade your port. As you will already have a " port ", in place to support the Airbase. Yes?

[@dash1141]

that was beautiful

[@DrewofDrew]

Good start ! Hope it will be better than the Yankee one :)

[@persallnas5408]

Looking forward to this one taff.

[@Kh-hm6hz]

Shortland needs level 3 port…

[@combatarms45]

Hey Taff, if ever you want a challenge I recommend getting the pacific campaign mod for War on the Sea

[@combatarms45]

@Achilles not really lmfao, if anything that campaign is much more difficult lmao

[@thewarlord3547]

Taff I am pretty sure that the constant air attacks are a bug, the aircraft should not be spamming as much as they should, since I have played tokyo express from the beginning I know they shouldn't but I believe the last update of the main game made the mod not work properly, I think the mod team are working on a fix, I have taken a break from the mod because of the same reason so yeah your not alone, let's hope it gets sorted someday.

[@peribe438]

Great!

[@denniscompton8485]

Fah-Boo-Key not Fuh- BAhk-ah :D love your Stuff Taff....

[@731trident]

This episode could change your logo to the cover from Judas Priest 'Screaming For Vengeance'. When you send it, man, you send it!

[@Robert53area]

So the japanese will be interesting, light cruisers were not anti aircraft roles like the Americans, for anti aircraft, you will need the akizukis dual purpose 100mm guns.light cruisers for japan were scout ships, heavy cruisers have okay AA but they are ment to slug it out with anything smaller. Aircraft will be your primary AA or the akizuki.

[@idv1328]

I would split up the torpedoes a bit more myself between the ships. Try to hit a bit more that one at a time…

[@Thereisalwaysmore]

Rank 3 port because you can resupply your carrier and subs. Omg I thought this was just uploaded 😅😅

[@JohnDoe-ff2fc]

I find it odd that in your previous go at this, your US planes got spanked while the planes in this campaign, the Japanese planes are nearly unscathed. It's my understanding that the US anti-aircraft was vastly superior to that of the navy of Japan.

[@SturmGewehr1944x]

Not in '42. It got really superior with the advent of the VT fuse.

[@nickmitsialis]

@@SturmGewehr1944x Nah, IJN naval had those 'triple 25mm guns, their flak lacked 'intermediate' range AA guns. Before the VT fuses came on the scene, US warships carried multiple arrays of 40mm AA guns mounted in twin and quad arrangements, with them backed up with large numbers of the 20 mm Oerlikon cannons. the fire those gun mounts could put out was absolutely devastating to the experienced IJN aircrews. Even if a 'crack' bomber pilot put his payload on target, he'd get blown away shortly after releasing. It was those battles at Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz that 'gutted' the crews from Zuikaku and Shokaku even though the carriers survived.

[@MrNicoJac]

At the beginning, the AA of both navies was fairly comparable. But at roughly the midpoint, the US got theirs so good that any attack was basically suicide - which in turn gave rise to the kamikaze strikes (if you're going to die anyways, you might as well carry more explosives and aim better)

[@MrNicoJac]

​@@nickmitsialis "Before the VT fuses came on the scene, US warships carried multiple arrays of 40mm AA guns mounted in twin and quad arrangements, with them backed up with large numbers of the 20 mm Oerlikon cannons." Well..... yes _and_ no. The US had way too little AA at the Battle of Coral Sea. But kept adding AA mounts after every engagement. Main evidence: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roqVfXZsh99qgKc (until 42:48) (you can start a bit earlier, at kzbin.info/www/bejne/roqVfXZsh99qgKc with the same end point) Other interesting bits include: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIeXnpKqndR3d68 (until 31:50) kzbin.info/www/bejne/roqVfXZsh99qgKc (actually from 19:35 until 20:13) kzbin.info/www/bejne/roqVfXZsh99qgKc (until 27:55) Anyhow, thanks for giving me an excuse to dive into Drach's special again, and I hope you have a great day :)

[@nickmitsialis]

@@MrNicoJac Indeed! I look at some of the newsreel footage of the amount of flak the USN battlegroups can throw up and you wonder how anything got thru.

[@gvii]

Torpedoes that explode when they hit the target. How odd. Lol.

[@chisox551]

Question: Which campaign is easier Japanese or Americans?

[@anti-Russia-sigma]

You should produce 1 show with action,only & 1 show with planning & managing,only.

[@jollyjohnzz]

New series ! Over the flipping moon .

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

It's true. I love TTE in theory, but the useless air spamming is agony, and all the different kinds of cargo ships is just silly.

[@dirkaminimo4836]

No cruiser could have taken 4-5 long lances! Awesome but dangerous O2 fueled

[@civsully1740]

First time looking at this game and this vid is excellent! Can this be played PvP via email or is it just vs the AI. Thx!

[@dssorryds]

Do a level 3 port :) quicker resupply route on your subs and other ships :)

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

When will the AI use CVs? Do they evar? Just thinking of the last campaign.

[@chisox551]

Yes, the AI (mainly the Allies) will at some point when playing as Japan, spawn in CVs, mainly the Yorktown's. They usually go just south or South-East of Rennel Island.

[@franktozier3184]

Remmber Japanese torpedoes are very good

[@chisox551]

True.

[@sourcedudetrustme8831]

Ive never seen this game before

[@bigmac60]

I think a port is better. Unless you can get rocket firing aircraft. Which seemed very effective before

[@lauriea2971]

Do the airfield

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

OooooOoOoooh. Time for some war crimes.

[@t.a.ackerman4098]

What difficulty level is this?

[@LawrenceSeetoh]

you gotta take better care of your subs staff, spirit them away after shooting the torpedoes

[@scotch_mist]

Does this game have Royal Navy campaign or is it IJN / USN only?

[@chisox551]

As of now, you can only play as the IJN and USN. I do imagine though that other campaigns will be added in coming patches, like the Atlantic with the Royal navy vs the Kreigsmarine, and the Mediterranean with the Royal Navy going against the Italian Navy.

[@scotch_mist]

@@chisox551 Hey thanks for your reply! Hopefully they will do so!

[@chisox551]

@@scotch_mist No problem.

[@arifnasfi801]

Try make a breakthrough, unlike most youtuber that play this campaign, try win this campaign by conquering allied bases not only sinking all of their ships...

[@diggilad781]

i hate the TTE Mod because of the air attacks, like im sailing by Lae and like 72 Torpedo Bombers spawn right on me, hence why i use the ABDACOM mod

[@sstigger38]

WHAT!!!?? NO PEARL HARBOR START? Bummer.....

[@dennissvitak148]

I purchased this, and refunded it the same day, when it first came out. Is it worth a purchase now?

[@chisox551]

I'd say 100% worth it now.

[@williamarmstrong1050]

why dont you fire torps from sub farthest away 1st then fire from other subs as they pass then they all get there at same time thought it was obvious but maybe not saves wasting torps and time same with your planes you need to time the attacks better so all hit ships same time

[@LaurensPP]

I actually am interested in this game but the way planes do their thing really put me off.

[@sstigger38]

Wait... 13:00... "..heavy cruiser, heavy cruiser, how much resources do they start with!?" Ummm... didn't you just FINISH the American Campaign? LOLOL

[@chisox551]

the " OH MY GOD" part really got me as Taff spotted the American fleet through I-40's Periscope lol! 🤣🤣🤣

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

Destroy the airfields, simple.

[@NephilBlade]

Nix on the subs, they are too easy. Limit yourself to 5 or so subs.

[@conmcgrath7174]

Taff, brilliant start, very engaging. NOW HEAR ME MISTER! You had perfect conditions with your subs. Timing! For 'eff sake position and time your strikes so that they land at the same time? When three subs fire from perfect position and you hit one target? That is not good. Bad Taff, baad (down with that kind of thing). You are demonstrably not stupid, but you continue to behave stupidly in this regard, why, ;effing why? Aargh (seeing as it's Pirate week) but I was crying 'why', why would you just completely 'eff' it up? You think that was a 'Rip roaring start., for sure it was, but you could have done so much more. Mate, you need to understand how subs work and (on behalf of all your ex-lovers, your timing is lousy). I might have made that last bit up. Loving it and hating the way you play the subs. Grrr!! Always watching though, Pax

[@michaelkoznarsky7911]

Invade Port Moresby!

[@henrywang9735]

Ha "u-40"

[@anti-Russia-sigma]

As the game is silly enough to collide into its ships,you shouldn’t be too smug/happy with your achievements.

[@agungprasetyo2665]

At last... bored from us campaign

[@noahwestin8416]

For the weebs.

[@jessicamack1523]

Airfield ,take advantage of those torpedo planes.

[@mairon154]

I am becoming crazy with tte. Every single scout plane of yours will be attacked by magical fighters with radar in their ass