War on the Sea - Tokyo Express Mod || USN Campaign || Ep.13 - Another day Another Battleship

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

In other news: US Admiral personally thanks pilots after they dropped their torpedoes as instructed ;)

[@Wolfpack345]

Lol!

[@3gunslingers]

There must be an interesting (and surely ironic) story behind that joke. Can someone please enlighten me? Thanks. Huge Fan, btw.

[@ulysseoliveirabaptista5213]

@@3gunslingers 5.50

[@vf-114jock2]

@@3gunslingers I think its funny because ------ during an attack the first torpedo bombers on target didn't appear to drop their torpedoes for some reason - the follow up planes did drop. Hope this helps

[@Echoyourwolf]

@@ulysseoliveirabaptista5213 5:50

[@swimmingnoodle1679]

I severely underestimated Japanese torpedo engineering in WW2 holy hell what was that

[@Perkelenaattori]

Well the Long Lance was the best torpedo of the war but that was a Very Long Lance.

[@jjdude5531]

@@Perkelenaattori less of a lance and more of a french horn

[@ijnfleetadmiral]

That was a glitch to the 10th power. Long Lance torpedoes were NOT acoustic. They had epic-level range, but no way in hell did they home in like that. Either it was an error in programming or a modder cheated somewhere.

[@sleepyboi6681]

@@ijnfleetadmiralcan’t torpedoes be made to turn after a set distance

[@rossnelson9576]

At this point, I think parking a submarine off port morseby wouldn’t be a bad idea. Just use it for defense

[@Gigi-ik3br]

For sure! The Japanese are certainly demonstrating obsessive compulsive behavior! It's either stationing a submarine there or a shrink in a dingy with semaphore flags to figure out what's going on in their heads.

[@Gearing-s8q]

Park like 2 S Boats

[@DogmeatDied989]

22:00 “WHAT ARE THESE TORPEDOES DOING?!?!?!” looks like the Kreismarines loaned some T5s to the Japanese for funsies.

[@jswanay4]

My thoughts exactly. That’s so crazy.

[@Zack_Wester]

@@jswanay4 I do love the fact that the Torpedoes are going dangerously close to hitting there own sub. whitch if I recall history correct did happen. some German U-boater I think stomped using turn torpedoes because the thing that supposedly make them only turn a specific amount was notorious for not working correctly. Turning a torpedo that was supposed to only turn 20 degree right instead makes a 360 and hitting your own U-boat in the side. and a U-boat had some real problem whit detecting if there turning torpedoes started to circle around. so a short moment after firing the U-boat had no clue where there own torpedoes was.

[@howardkong8927]

Or maybe they deployed a few Kaiten torpedoes ahead of schedule!

[@patchouliknowledge4455]

@@Zack_Wester cough cough USS Tang

[@Tuning3434]

@@Zack_Wester Richard O'Kane wants to know your location.

[@tomblake189]

That was the most cheaty torpedo strike I've ever seen 😂

[@Drzedan272]

They were guided or what ?

[@Cg23sailor]

@@Drzedan272 the game had them guided, but the Japanese had no guided torpedoes during the war other than the poorly performing Kaiten manned suicide torpedoes very late in the war, like 1944, 1945. There was a very early experimental acoustic homing torpedo that was scrapped as the torpedo itself was too noisy. That was just pure on BS on the part of the game.

[@angrypandaification]

Bent it like Beckham...

[@debott4538]

@@Cg23sailor The game simulates pre-programmed gyroscopic torpedoes. The sub was leading its shot at short range at a destroyer closing in even more, effectively aiming at it's own position. Thereby the torps made a loop once and came back while the sub dove beneath their path to avoid the DD. It's fair play, really, although not supposed to happen, I guess. In any case, charging a sub that is about to launch is not very recommended. ;)

[@crusader318]

@@Drzedan272 that sub used a hacked client

[@tefras14]

The AI actually succeeded using a sub!

[@djsatane]

if they could do the same with their carrier

[@adamtruong1759]

I've seen AI submarines succeed before.

[@Generic_Name_1-1]

In the most hacked, cheaty way possible 🤣

[@hermannfegelein5595]

@@Generic_Name_1-1 true 🤣

[@MrChainsawAardvark]

"Circular running" was an occasional problem with WWII torpedoes, where the rudders would get stuck at full deflection and loop around to hit the submarine. It looks like that Sub was about to suffer from a horrible technical problem, when that destroyer leaped in the way...

[@debott4538]

The sub was aiming at it's own position, since the DD was charging right at it.

[@do9032]

Nah those torpedo's were an early version of mark 48 adcap's :)

[@vf-114jock2]

I thought this was only a problem with the US torpedoes?

[@johns3544]

@@vf-114jock2 Nope Germens had them also but knew how to fix them. By the time WW2 started. WWI was a help in figureing out the problems.

[@MrChainsawAardvark]

@@vf-114jock2 All nations had these problems. Torpedoes were pretty much the most complicated weapon system developed until the ICBM. Especially with limited budgets and testing in the 30s - issues abounded. That said certain groups fixed the issues faster than others.

[@seanholt4437]

I needed a laugh today. That was perhaps one of the funniest "features" I've ever seen in this game. 5 torpedoes is a bit overkill for a DD for sure 😂

[@andrewl8512]

The explosions just kept coming 😂

[@acun4075]

I can understand U.S. ships lobbing excessive torps because the fail rate is so high I won't send any less than 3 because odds are 2 will fail. On average anytime I engage BB or CV I use 6, almost 90% of the time 5 of the 6 fail, I've even had 2nd encounters on the same ship with 5 fails... 12 torps 10 fails. As for the Japanese side it's not nearly as bad but the AI just lobs them all anyways.

[@ryanblount2210]

It's impressive just *how much* damage the Ise-class took before going down. Considering the standard performance of Japanese Damage Control, she actually managed to repair and shrug off so many hits before sinking. Also on this episode: a destroyer gets utterly deleted by "Historically Accurate" Game Mechanics

[@3n1gma]

21:37 Hah, I didn't know Japanese had acoustic torpedoes back then. What a mess lmao

[@vojtechskracek541]

Headcanon explanation for those weird torps: At the begining of the attack, the captain of the USS Monaghan vastly underestimated the capabilities of japanese torpedoes, which lead to him to not compensating enough after the first evasive turn, this was the reason why the first torpedo hit. Ironically, this explosion had caused the rudder on four other already poorly maintained torpedoes to jam in the hard to starboard position, this caused them to run in a circle till they run out of juice or something gets in their way. Meanwhile the Monaghan, with almost all propulsion already gone and most of the crew trying to stop the fires and flooding, was trying to make at least one defiant depth charge attack against the silent attacker, all this while unknowingly drifting into the path of the circle running fish. When the crew of Monaghan did finally noticed them it was already too late, the only thing that could have saved them at that point was if all of them were duds... none of them were. Or the Japanese just started using Mark 14s. P.S. Sorry for all grammatical errors.

[@Captain_Harper1]

That was some torpedo drifting right there

[@Friday_Monday]

The best part about these series is the fact that Wolfpack plays it so straight the entire time, but when he really lays an egg you can hear it loud and clear in his voice

[@saml7610]

Time traveling Mk. 48 ADCAP's were loaded onto that Japanese submarine...

[@kpjammerwolf330]

22:00 Wasn't expecting the torpedoes to lock on to the destroyer and nuked it after they missed the first time Man these went DEJA VU

[@familymorotskiy6929]

When ever there is a episode about sinking submarines, its should be called “Fishing Day!”

[@benwelch4076]

New previously unknown Japanese homing torpedoes, twenty years ahead of their time. Thew sinking of the battleship was just awesome. I look forward to this series every week. Cheers.

[@moalzaben5554]

The battle stations music never gets old

[@fredmeyer369]

Man those torpedo's... were insane.

[@imbored3049]

World of warships torpedo's

[@davidhunter1538]

I seem to remember "Chitose" or whatever it's called is a tender (A fleet support ship for repairs to submarines, ships, aircraft and vehicles with workshop facilities- machining parts etc.)

[@cringyhuman3210]

Woldfpack :I never get mad at games. Also him before :WhyDIdNT YOU FIRE THE TORPEDO

[@vf-114jock2]

Isn't the capture of Port Moresby an objective for the IJN? The AI doing it one battleship at a time is NOT smart!

[@sedlacekmartin6630]

It is.

[@cranexavier7589]

BATTLESTATIONS PACIFIC MUSIC SUITS THIS SO WELL

[@TeeFunkable]

The artificial insanity of this game does kinda ruin the promising concept.

[@untruelie2640]

Yes, the AI is frustratingly incompetent.

[@inside98]

Yeah, I was playing with mostly subs and torpedos are just broken. I had battles were they go straight and then suddenly all turn around and run in the opposite direction. Really annoying.

[@TeeFunkable]

@@inside98 I get what you mean. But what I find far worse is the plain stupidity of the AI taking away the challenge. Like in this series, the returning one BB that gets hammered to shit every time by airplanes. AI just repeats and loses stuff. Or the enemy aircraft carrier doing precisely FA, just hovering north of Guadalcanal. The air weapon is massively powerful, yet AI seems to have no interest in using it. Nor is it even remotely interested in using any kind of air power to protect it's assets that are getting ground to dust by a few unprotected dauntlasses. It's more than a broken mechanic, it's more like a totally broken core.

[@creme1858]

@@inside98 its that a feature or just torpedo with Rudder problem?

[@creme1858]

@@TeeFunkable my Wasp class carrier nearly get sunk by those shit

[@MrLeperMessia]

I always find it funny that you usually try to keep you language clean with all the oh gosh and oh dears and every now and then you let out a good old f bomb. Catches me off guard every time

[@DL541]

The sub was probably laughing histerically still from the destroyer they just owned.

[@Kyle-en6ez]

finally, my long awaited series video is here. great job❤ im loving this series and even all of them

[@matteogabbani6482]

Hey wolfpack, can you make a compilation of you sinking all the battleships at the end of this series, it wouyld be awesome

[@Deanorama]

Excellent episode, great editing too... I really hope you enjoy making these episodes as much as I like watching them!

[@peterraypold66]

That poor Destroyer, took 5 torps only to be avenged by her sister! Sub was in turn depth charged straight to Davey Jones' Locker!!!

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

A true genius play! Sub Commander sets torpedoes to hit HIMSELF knowing that you'd detect the torpedoes and immediately beeline for his position.

[@talamioros]

this is like the Medal of Honour guy who calls in artillery on his own position knowing he's dead so might as well take the foe down with him

[@jay76ny]

Credit to the AI for knowing it is outmatched and cheating like a MoFo to get a kill lol.

[@debott4538]

No cheats there. The sub pre-programmed it's torps to lead its shot. And since the DD was pracitcally right on top of it the torps came right around, just as intended. The same happened to me once, when I torped a target at too close range. Nearly sank my sub taht way, too.

[@jay76ny]

@@debott4538 the first hit, yes I agree. The torps circling back for round 2? I dont thing so.

[@IAm18PercentCarbon]

@@jay76ny The first hit was the coincidence. They were on one big circle, which he intercepted once (by accident) and the second time (where it was aiming).

[@shanepatrick4534]

6:00 "drop the torpedo what is fucking wrong with you?" LOL

[@f-35enjoyer59]

Perfect timing, hoping to get WoTS today!

[@Echoyourwolf]

It's WoT not WoTS

[@localflourdealer5249]

@@Echoyourwolf What? War on The..?

[@ubiergo1978]

@@Echoyourwolf That'd be world of tanks... this is war on the sea. O.O

[@Echoyourwolf]

@@ubiergo1978 oh sorry

[@Echoyourwolf]

@@ubiergo1978 😅😅😅😅😅

[@Zenoviax_DFSOU]

Wolfpack: *Dodges torpedoes* Torpedoes: Oh no! Anyways.

[@themigmadmarine]

The one time where a circle running torpedo was a good thing

[@petro3366]

Gotta love it how all but one of the torps ran in a circle

[@Swagman12]

"i dont really get mad at video games" snake: 👀

[@ditzy_neko3362]

on another note, i thought to myself "another boring sub hunt.... ZOMG!"

[@zhicaofang2354]

Showing the enemy submarine crushed to pieces by water pressure at the end. Absolute and ultimate humiliation. LOL

[@jaredrevis4594]

This is like a weird universe where the Japanese never realized the importance of Guadalcanal and just decided to try operation MO over and over ad infinitum but with the actual invasion never coming After-action edit: Ise my beloved... Also what a convenient situation for a reference. "This is the Monaghan, we've been torpedoed! Crew is abandoning ship!"

[@andrewlocke2834]

Lol! Lots of S and F bombs in this episode 😂 Not gonna lie, I love when you get worked up and drop those!

[@abbot-plays9423]

Omg I recently started to watch this series and those torpedoes were hilarious I bursted out laughing

[@rnin689]

I see, that battle stations theme music, *based*, please continue using those tracks, they give me flashbacks to my childhood

[@samuelsexton7375]

Me, working on a car: Also me, seeing Wolfpack posted a new video: *TOOLS FLYING OUT OF AN ENGINE BAY AS I GO TO LUNCH TO WATCH THE VIDEO*

[@FulhamboyH]

I’ve never played any of these games , but I enjoy watching your submarine series , thanks 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Concernedvoter914]

Not the World of Warships homing torpedoes' making their way into this game LMAO

[@barrycabbageM34]

Right On time… just got into bed! My favourite bed time story is one about the Imperial Japanese getting clapped. Wow those torpedoes must’ve been those fancy manually guided torpedos the IJN Developed or some shit. Lol

[@thebaron6481]

Sorry wolfpack but that was funny :D By the way the issue with the torpedoes can happen when they are launched at very close ranges. Is an issue in game since the launch but rare to happen. However in TTE i made the AI ambush spawn at close ranges to give the AI better chances scoring an hit so this can happen more often.

[@debott4538]

Yes, launching torpedoes at too short range can do that. One time I nearly lost my own sub that way, too.

[@ret7army]

Those circling torpedoes (24:00 or so) usually were a malfunction in WWII and often sank the submarine that launched them.

[@Wolfpack345]

Except they circle around and run straight twords the destroyer lol. Obviously a bug. Also the chances of all 6 torpedoes being circle runners is highly unlikely.

[@acun4075]

Same thing happened to one of my Destroyers the torpedoes went in circles wasn't paying attention they whipped around and nailed it. Also I've had a sub launch forward and aft torpedoes one time before wasn't expecting a second volley. I've also sunk a submarine with deck guns before it dives if you can get the aim down quick enough.

[@HYNKZL]

Just bought the game from watching this vid. Thank you sir!

[@morrischen5777]

Behold! Imperial secrets weapon! Circulating homing torpedoes!

[@finnwarner2977]

ayyy war of the sea video after class for my birthday! Day couldn't get better.

[@lenku]

This series is great! Thanks for posting

[@mattdamutt5681]

We learned today not to take our eyes off the torpedoes when they're still turning.

[@ditzy_neko3362]

Holy crap those torpedoes seemed to track your destroyer specifically. Impossible. we all play Silent Hunter and we know a little about the weapons of the time. The US and Germans experimented with passive guidance systems on torpedoes but not until late in the war and results were iffy. just, wow.

[@dougshelby939]

Dude that was some kind of ultra secret weapon torpedoes that the Japanese saved all 5 for that single destroyer!! Banzai!! They worked just like never advertised. No malfunction or duds either!! Wow that's one demolished destroyer!!

[@aceofspadesattorney]

I was quite glad when the seaplane tender went down. Now’s the acceptable time to decimate even tiny carriers! (; Also, we need more of this!!! (: (: (:

[@hudsonadams9963]

Cool watching the battle ships go down

[@stargazer79]

@wolfpack345 - One tactic to consider with your avengers, is to split into 2 groups and attack simultaneously from 45 degrees off either bow from the target, that way regardless of which way she turns to evade, she's broadside to one salvo or the other.

[@cameronrichards59]

Aka a Hammer and Anvil Strike

[@noseyparker6969]

@@cameronrichards59 thats not what he said and it's not a hammer and anvil strike. Similar but no. No no no no no!

[@kilroyrip2979]

The devil's cross

[@Tolastun]

looks like that Sub captain knew your tactics and planned his Torps for you

[@PerfectDeath4]

I've seen some very weird close range torp behaviour, as if the game sets the torp's bearing AFTER they are launched, allowing for a sub to aim where you are maneuvering.

[@hi13760]

Just a backseat gamer: In the sub encounters, never assign ships to a group. Just manually direct them away from the enemy sub. But that DD hit would have hit me as well! :)

[@ike555je]

Great series man. Really enjoying it!

[@cassidywest5539]

14:26 what is she sinking about?

[@RayRay-mv9wn]

Makes me wonder if toughness of that Ise is not in faulty model. From my observation, bombs behave somewhat differently on those mod ships. I noticed it in previous video, but here prime example is at 6:44. Looks like bombs exploded on wires between masts. If game engine simply explodes bombs when collision with object is detected, then applies some damage mechanic and those wires are in collision model, it acts like spaced armor. Also lots of explosions on upper superstructure. Vanilla collision models might not have those in theirs.

[@prosozzty8164]

as far as i know, i think its not coz the faulty of model.. its just simply the bomb didnt hit a critical component enough.. after bomb patch, just like the name, AP bomb will pen more but deal damage poorly (ex : 1000lb AP will pen 177mm, but only have 23kg of tnt, in other side, 1000lb SAP only pen 95mm but give a punch 137kg of tnt)... in my experiment using custom battle, it need atleast 6-8 hit of 1000lb to cripple BB (yamato and iowa doesnt count, that thing only able sunk by torp).. #cmiiw

[@bigbreadtime7624]

The USN when they see another ijn battleship heading to port Moresby again Ah good our first catch of the day

[@contexgreenbrier2806]

from watching i feel like the torpedo aiming first kicks in one the torpedo starts turning, like the other episode with the chester, you noticed the torps you turned and moved at wich point the aiming should have been off, yet the torps spinned around to hit you (once), what i mean is the aiming isnt set upon launch, but upon activation, wich is kinda weird. I hope you understand my flow of thought there ^^

[@_R-R]

Didn't even give the sub crew a chance to escape. Good.

[@GENTcz]

Respect to Ise. Being more survival and dangerous than Yamato need lot of power.

[@fnusecurity5112]

Wolfpack345, Great use of Wire guided Torpedoes'. Did not know they had them back then. Might been homing.

[@MichalProzac]

After a day of bad news this is the first thing that cheered me up 😊 6PM good one Wolfie

[@danmacneil1895]

Years ago playing pto 02 on snes i'd save before a major engagement taking away any revenge tactics i might try if my loses were high! Takes away from a true victory though!

[@ijnfleetadmiral]

"There's a sub! That's pretty sweet!" Chiyoda (one of the two in the Chitose-class) served as a midget submarine tender from June 1940 until she was ordered converted to a light aircraft carrier in January 1943. She actually served as the 'mother ship' for the midget submarine crews that attacked Pearl Harbor Also, both the Chitose and Nisshin-classes were seaplane carriers, not light cruisers. No idea why the developers classed them as light cruisers.

[@trealosgaming3345]

After watch 2 play throughs i have come to the conclusion that this game has always set the enemy sub up with perfect shots. Imagine if the AI had the "wolfpack" tactics of Germany as well. Your fleet would enter an engagement and all become reefs

[@danielbrueggemann3058]

Heat seekers those torpedoes were lol 🤣

[@DecidedlyNinja]

Clearly the Japanese were testing a new type of torpedo which can be set to deliberately circle-run as a defensive measure (which I'm totally making up). When a destroyer gets close, the sub launches circling torpedoes and dives rapidly beneath them, creating a deadly trap for the destroyer. The sub in the video might have even sunk the Farragut if he hadn't shot all his tubes at once. Hopefully the sinking of that sub will make the enemy think their new weapon is ineffective.

[@JokiMBS]

"I don't even get mad at video games" Is it possible to learn such power?

[@shp27493]

An US commander again underestimates the advancement of Japanese torpedoes and pays the price. "They don't have homing torpedoes, they cannot possibly make them before the USA", Admiral Wolfpack said yesterday when the press finally got a hint of the sinking of Monaghan and the strange circumstances.

[@TheRealTburt]

I am not sure IJN damage control was that good. Unlike the USN, basic training for Japanese sailors didn't include firefighting. Rather, firefighting was done by a small number of dedicated group of sailors. A stem to stern fire probably wouldn't have been put out that quickly.

[@sailorgibbens3301]

Oh cool a submarine. Ah yes, the ever elusive submarines.

[@sirstriker9773]

I've had something similar happen to me when I was playing. Had a ship on a slight turn away from the path of the torpedoes, then I pulled hard maneuvers to dodge. I was able to avoid the torps but it was literally like they were actively being wire guided towards my ship. Somethings probably really wrong with the coding on the gyroscopes for the torps...

[@Spitfire_1940]

Cant wait for new campaigns in this game

[@jords844]

Port Moresby was Australia’s base of attack when we were attacking the Japanese on the Kokoda trail. The game is probably just trying to simulate the Japanese fleet trying to disrupt these ‘attacks’ by bombarding the port

[@Steelshadow104]

I remember going into my first sub encounter like that, my Takao barely got out of the way. Ig they're using WoWS new homing mechanics :D

[@adamtruong1759]

0:14 I think the flag physics needs work, idk, that's just me.

[@Wazup13579]

Looks like you found the special acoustic honing torpedoes

[@firestorm165]

Shame, that sub deserved to live after pulling off a shot like that

[@cipher88101]

That sub commander had cheat codes even in death.

[@Karza_357]

I bet those torpedoes were human steered, lol

[@tomphillips7858]

Straight line defense… they’ll never expect that strategy.

[@KomunistycznyChleb]

17:02 its a one use sub. its slam into hull and go boooooooooooooooooooooooom

[@ozzwepay]

That sub was from the future, armed with Mk48's like that.

[@kitsunehood8843]

Do you think you'll get a County class cruiser? I love the British ships :D

[@jacobhowerton3379]

Lots of strange occurrences this go round

[@markusschmidt3172]

Reason some of the Avengers didnt dropped their Torps is because you assigned the attack as a squadron ! If the squadron leader gets shot down, his fellow wingmens then dont know for what they are there anymore... Hahaha You have 2 Options after the Wingleader got shot down: - reassemble the squadron and repeat the attack order - or, better: just give the attack order right from the beginning for everybody with clicking every plane of the squadron and then hit the Attack button This said, as much as i like your videos (and hate the game for getting released in such an infinished state), it would be much better if you dont play the game like Steel Division f.e. and pause the game to give proper orders !!! Some people may scream "cheating" then, but the game isnt meant to play in realtime ! Its too complex for this playstyle... And for me as a viewer, its sometimes hard therefore to watch, because this results in a hectic atmosphere because you getting sometimes frenzy to get all the orders out... So relax man, pause the game, give proper orders and let us enjoy the show aka result^^ Just a friendly advice

[@dazedlazer]

The Japanese seaplane tender crew didnt even need consent to test dive the midget sub, america is so nice helping the japenese!

[@dinoplays1019]

I think the reason the torpedos went in circles is possible a torpedo design used by the Germans that I beilve was able to track some what and explode when it found its target, please take this with a grain of salt cause my mind is rusty on this subject

[@shants4190]

Uboat is finally updated. Thinking about checking it out?

[@Wolfpack345]

Yup!

[@shants4190]

@@Wolfpack345 Good to hear! looking forward to any contant from it.

[@irishpotatothief531]

First time I've ever seen a torpedo drift