[War Robots] - Adrian Chong is LYING to his Audience...

[@DenisFox-]

In case you just found this video out of nowhere: This video was on private, and was recorded during the Ochokochi meta. The reason why it came back is because Adrian shamelessly invented a lie about me after uploading this CRITIC video where everything is said for a reason, and he continues lying to his community and defending Pixonic. The game is pay to win and no matter how much he's trying to defend it, it only makes him look like a fool, and the fact a lot of people are brain-washed by him is truly sad. They cannot think for themselves and see what their favorite content creator is doing. In case you don't know what lie he invented about me, he said that i come from a cheater clan (I was in RO clan at that time) with absolutely 0 proof, and people from the "Spenders Community" turned that lie into something more disgusting such as "DenisFox is a cheater and a tanker". Adrian was supposed to admit he lied while i had to remove this video, simple as that. Of course, he didn't. He didn't even want to talk to me about it on discord. I put the video on private because i knew such thing would happen. The purpose of this video wasn't to bring hate to Adrian in any way, as i REPETITIVELY mentioned in the comments and the video, but he was so butthurt about it so he had to personally attack me and make a lie out of it to bring actual hate towards me. Is this yall favorite content creator?

[@Desnesr]

Yup, everything in this video is perfectly accurate sadly😂

[@antkid7xd363]

Well you see, I don’t think it’s that Adrian doesn’t think that the game is pay to win… it’s more, he’s too optimistic, and doesn’t WANT to believe that the game is pay to win, because war robots was a game close to ALL of our hearts back when it was f2p 😔

[@DenisFox-]

Indeed it is a game close to us all in our heart. Adrian keeps saying that if you have a full Ocho hangar with Tonans Newton, that doesn't mean you'll win. By having such dirty hangars, the win possibility is HUGE since we can see it from legend league players. But what about a player which doesn't run meta? Is his win rate the same? Deep down he knows the game is pay to win, yet he doesn't want to admit it, and says that "Its skills and beacons that win games". I would love to see how he gets the beacon if Ochokochis are defending them (and he isnt using meta crap obviously) 😊

[@MechAnimalWR]

@@DenisFox-I am currently a Legends League player, top 10 on iOS with NO META! No Damper/Tamer, no Ocho, no Curie and obviously no Newton! And again, while I am able to stay there, my winning percentage often drops to an incredible 16% due to too much meta on the other side, to make it more simple, matchmaking is so rigged for the sole purpose to stop me showcasing my non meta hangar in Legends League, and if by any chance somebody looks me up, seeing me with a 16% winning percentage will lead them to think I’m not doing so well, while again, in reality that winning percentage is mostly because of the rigged matchmaking!

[@DenisFox-]

​@@MechAnimalWRwhat is your ID? I wanna see your hangar

[@MechAnimalWR]

@@DenisFox- VMD32I | last letter forgot if if it’s an “i” or an “l” try both 🙂

[@CheckHertz]

THERES NO WAY ADRIAN SAID DECAY WAS BETTER... ITS A F2P WEAPON, NEVER, EVER, SAY THAT.

[@zafred6424]

This video is spot on. This is exactly how it feels to listen to that man yap about killing yourself for a beacon that you’ll use in 5 seconds because of Ochos. Then all he recommends is brawlers. And when he doesn’t have that 1 in 10 game where his brawler bot is doing decent, he’s getting pummeled in seconds because his outdated playstyle is awful. Then the guy has the audacity to blame us for not buying into the meta. He’s just trying to sap money from KZbin while he can, like that one time he stood up for the player majority who STILL DON’T LIKE Pixo’s actions, then he lost some views that didn’t matter for shit. Now all he compares everything he does is Fortnite. Adrian was my favorite of all youtubers till a month or 2 ago I started opening my eyes to what he was doing. Glad I did for real because I was defending him this whole year from people I thought were just hating on him which I now consider as regular thinking normal ass citizens who don’t want to feed Pixo money. Thank you for this vid bro

[@DenisFox-]

I am not saying he is a bad guy, but he is a liar. Like, if he thinks that skillful play exist why is he filling his hangar with dumb meta robots while live streaming? He doesn't want us to see him getting absolutely SCREWED by the meta so thats why he uses it himself. He is the only War Robots youtuber which isn't being realistic about the unhealthy state of the game... Glad you liked the video.

[@zafred6424]

⁠@@DenisFox-Of course I don’t think he’s a bad guy, he’s charming as heck but what he’s doing is crossing borders that are starting to stain his reputation. He’s a veteran with years of experience, and it’s brought him a lot of success in his life through KZbin. I have respect for him but I feel like his words are being twisted from bias. I just want him to take our views and compare the actual game you know, his content is professional but defending Pixonic is ruining people’s feelings of the guy. I don’t know if Adrian sees this but if he does just know we don’t want anything but some brainpower put into our points 🫶

[@DenisFox-]

​@@zafred6424nah he won't see this video for sure, and it is fine that way. He'll consider me a hater. He says people are hating whenever they say something negative about him or his channel. Everything which i covered in this video was already debated with him. These comments are not even 10% from all the comments i wrote for him and he responded btw. I couldn't be asked to check every single video of his and look for my own comments. Like, all what he has to stop doing is spread false bs. He doesn't have to rant like Manni does, but when i hear what he says im losing brain cells.

[@AZ-zz4kn]

17:11 I’m actually baffled at what Adrian said here. Decay is better than Subduer? Certainly not in current meta when Subduers can delete most enemies instantly and apply max rust within seconds. The radiation weapons are some of the most balanced weapons released and probably why they were never nerfed even after so long. Saying Decay deserves nerf if Subduers get nerfed is insanity

[@DenisFox-]

Well he doesn't care what gets nerfed and what isn't. He has access to every single item from the game, but i'll say it right now: If Decays randomly get nerfed for absolutely zero reason, im done with this game. Decay is in fact an very balanced weapon which requires no changes, buffs or nerfs.

[@sebastianreisinger9960]

I kind of understand it, if you have both maxed out with maxed out everything and use them against non maxed out robots, both will kill, just that decay is easier to use. If the robots you shoot are as maxed as you however, decay will get completely clowned on because of its lower fire-power over time and the fact it does not prevent healing with stupid rust effect. However i don't think it needs a nerf and i don't agree with adrian.

[@DenisFox-]

@@sebastianreisinger9960 tbh i don't find Decay easier, neither harder. Fully automatic weapon are easier to hit in my opinion

[@dgonalezr1416]

actually crazy that he predicted decay would get nerfed with subdeur in 10.4

[@DenisFox-]

@spesylikeslapping He didn't predicted it. He knew it, and Pixonic may have done it because of him

[@bluefirework]

adrian's advice vs the meta was way better back then in which i actually followed through made changes in my hangar. but this all because pixo making OP motherships that make new robot OP beyond belief. seriously need to buff older robots and weapons. and i cant believe their way of "buffing" older robots or weapons is to make ultimate versions of them wow.

[@DenisFox-]

I agree, but that advice is outdated, as many of us in this comment section already stated. Times have changed and no tactics win battles most of the times, since the enemy can access a lot of items which can give them second chances and save them from doing mistakes, such as Phase Shift

[@DenisFox-]

[4] Edit: If Adrian Chong ever sees this by chance and requests me to delete this video, i will. If he thinks i said nonsense, he will tell me to keep the video, but if he feels like i said something true, he'll want me to delete it. After all i did use clips from his channel, however, he'll have to stop with the bs and the lies :) [3] Edit: Jeez sorry for grammar errors, i wrote some of these before bed 😭 [2] Edit: The purpose of this video isn't to complain about meta. This video flew over some people head and they do not realize it is mostly meant to show that the game IS pay to win, and everyone knows that despite not wanting to admit it. Give me a full Ocho hangar and see what i can do 😉. Do not talk crap because if you were in my situation, you wouldn't even survive as much as i did in my robots 😁 [1] Edit: To all those who think this is "whining" and haven't even watched the entire video, please do not comment because i mentioned some negative words about your favorite content creator 😁 Like, i said that i am not angry at him, i just said that he spreads misinformation, and thats true. Like it or not, even an Ravana, Demeter, Fenrir, Typhon and Skyros hangar would be absolutely SCREWED by an meta player which knows what he is doing. Not everyone in champion league is brain-dead, and just because you kill some Ochos which aren't even shotting at you or even focusing on you, that doesn't mean you "easily kill them" or you "counter" them. Like, do i even have to mention how broken the Rust weapons are? Do i have to mention how op the meta is compared to the old equipment? Like, if i get Living Legends with my Fafnir, and i do it 50% of the times i run it, does that make it an Ocho counter? Just think LOGICALLY for a second. You do not have to agree with me, all you have to do is just read the text before commenting 😁 As i've said before this is not an hate video. This is a video where im expressing my own view about something ridiculous, aka Adrian saying the game is skill based, not pay to win, etc. Manni, Adrian and Phoenix were the first youtubers i started watching back in 2016 when i started playing the game. Funny enough, Adrian was my favorite, and i did learn basic game knowledge from him. I guess i simply didn't learn enough, i guess i am just bad for not being able to defend beacons against strong meta items. I do respect him, i am an active viewer of his, but im not gonna just sit there,worship him and agree with all he says if i see him saying complete nonsense. I am ready to be receive death threats from his viewers now, who won't even understand my point, and won't even try because in their eyes, Adrian is right. I am 100% sure that MOST of the veterans of this game would agree with me. 100% sure! What he does is defending Pixonic, by saying that meta can be countered and skills is all what matters in order to win games, and he feeds the players the false impression that they can beat the meta with a specific setup, in order to make them shut up and stop complaining about it. I kill Ochokochis in my Ao Jun sometimes, does that make it a counter? Sure, Sonic weapons are deadly to ANY robot since they deal gray damage, so those weapons are not exclusively deadly to the Ochokochi, and lets not forget that modules, motherships and pilot skills exist in order to save the Ocho's. If this video brings hate and kills the channel so be it. I did it thinking about this and im honestly fed up with all the bs i've heard. After all, im not taking youtube seriously and im uploading for fun. Once again, the only thing i'll agree with him is that most players are bad and they have no reason to be in champion league, they never go for beacons, they camp spawn, and the game is lost because of them. But when an full Ocho team pushes ur spawn, is you and your team to blame? The reason why everyone is so bad and they don't belong in champion league is because they get carried by broken equipment, and once their equipment gets nerfed, they barely do anything to assist their team. They never go for beacons if the enemy is there with a meta robot, ready to melt them if they try, and i don't blame them at all. Nah guys actually i am wrong, i am a trash player and hopefully one day i'll be able to counter and win against the meta with my Ao Jun. Beacons are definitely all that matters, getting your robots killed and losing your robots in the first 3 minutes just to defend some beacons for 10 seconds is the way to win.

[@dennypg3d105]

Adrian is an idiot I used to love his videos and long ago I remember Adrian winning power cells and getting silver and always saying how important they are. I lost all respect for him though when Pixonic reworked the supply drops from giving like 2 million to silver to what it is now. He changed everything he said. He said “all these keys from the new supply drop are useful for my baby account to win new weapons” What happened to the silver you used to always say was important? I knew from then on that Adrian was a Pixonic slave

[@cuong9064]

Wasn't it the same as Ares meta few years back. But while ares meta can be countered by Scorpion,Spectre even DB Giffrin, new meta with Rust Ochies, Splinter Dagons, UE robots can't really be countered by any skill or robot. Adrian was the best WR when WR isn't P2W but now..its just not the same 😢

[@DenisFox-]

​@@cuong9064Ares meta was a JOKE compared to what we have nowadays. I don't remember Ares having a 12 seconds cooldown, 750k hp and i don't even remember overpowered items which give the items second chances existed: You messed up, you died. No beak stealth, no Paladin shield, no Phase Shift. You did say it yourself, old meta could be countered, the new one cannot be unless you're running the same equipment. I would love to see Adrian countering an Ocho with a Orochi, after all, if skill if all that matters, a skillful play should allow him to do that

[@stuart207]

The tonuns newton is the reason I stopped playing again. I run a nodens, that's my choice and I'm not a bad pilot. Why should I invest in a game where I get raised into the air and one shot killed? I don't want to run the newton, it's this business model that has destroyed wr and the ultimate series makes a mockery of all gamers, not just the plonkers who buy into it. U halo has already been nerfed 😂

[@DenisFox-]

@stuart207 Much respect for using an titan you love and not changing it because the game forces you to. Wish everyone would run what they like instead of filling their hangars with broken meta. Even Adrian knows that Tonans Newton is broken, as he says it on livestreams, but somehow still says that tactics and beacons win you games. What if the enemy has 3 Tonans Newtons and they stop you from capturing the center map beacon by making you fly every second? How is skill gonna help you?

[@Legendary_Tav_WR]

Hey Bro... I just finished watching the whole entire video.. from start to finish... I read every single sentence and i got to say Great job on spreading the truth... I 10000000% Agree with you on everything... The game is dying and Some people are blind and delusional... Im happy you posted this and i hope it doesn't affect your channel in a negative way... I hope this helps players understand... Peace ✌🏾

[@DenisFox-]

Thanks for watching the entire video :)!!

[@robertcarpenter3020]

I don’t have a problem with pixonic making op stuff, I have a problem with them nerfing old items to the ground.

[@DenisFox-]

Exactlyyy 💯💯 As i always say, they can bring any meta they want, but they shouldn't nerf the items we invested into to the ground. I would have no problem with that. Glad to see we think the same!

[@aqop5548]

I sometimes dont want to reach to even master league because my hangar is pretty low leveled (lvl 7 robots and lvl 5 weapons) and i keep on losing a lot because most of the time there are tankers (a REALLY big issue for low league players) or my teammates are absolute brainrot people who doesnt even try to cap the beacons I try my best but oftenly i bottom score because of my low leveled stuff isnt dealing enough dmg I dont have the choice of spending because offers are extremely expensive in my country Im not even player lvl 30 yet, i dont have the motherships to support or ult """luck""" to spin the dorito keys to gamble for ult orkan I would like to try every single robot with every single weapon on this game but if the meta doesnt even allow to use 90% of them effectively without meta weapons how can i try them? By tanking? HELL NO I dont even think mk2 and mk3 should exist, most of the time its just waste of money and resources Upgrade times are a big problem for me because of that i can lvl up fast enough and i dont want to wait 5 damn days just to make a robot stay alive for 0.1 seconds more Btw if you want to know my hangar, please leave a comment

[@DenisFox-]

Do not try to get the Ultimate Orkan. It is useless at MK1, it receives an 68% buff through MK2 levels. Yeah im curious to see what you are running.

[@aqop5548]

@@DenisFox- i run lynx (lvl7) with stakes (lvl5), imugi (lvl5) with magnetar and pulsars (lvl5), ophion (lvl7) with atomizers (lvl5), angler (lvl7) with incinerator and scalds (lvl5) and ravana (lvl7) with 1 havoc (lvl6) and 2 shatters (lvl5). For titan i use rook (cant remember its lvl but it was around lvl 70) with 1 vajra (lvl16), 1 squall (lvl4) and 1 vengeance (lvl18)

[@DenisFox-]

​@@aqop5548just my opinion: I wouldn't invest into Lynx. That robot is gonna get another nerf, a nerf which will ruin it completly. Trust me on this one, you invest into it, you waste silver. To revive an nerfed robot, you must use meta drones, and it is very expensive to max one. Stakes sound cool i guess, i would run Baihu Stakes on Baihu Lynx just for design, but i still think Redemeers and Punchers are the best because they charge the mothership quick enough to be under an constant Aegis shield (if you run a support mothership). Wait to see what nerf they'll give to Lynx Imugi with Magnetars and Pulsars sound interesting , i never ran that myself so i wouldn't know how it performs. I wouldn't use Pulsars tbh, their danage is almost equal to the Magnetar damage, and thats almost the exact same firepower as a 3 Magnetar Loki for example. If that setup works for u then its great, but i would run Sonic/Harpoon for close range, Hazard/Blight for medium and Yeoje/Taeja to snipe (The lasers aren't useless with Harold Han and the perfect skills, but it costs a lot to make them effective so i would stay away from them) Ophion with Atomizers, another build which i never used. Ophion is insane for dealing damage, i would use blastcharge weapons just to stack up bomb effects and bypass physical shields (The ability doesn't bypass physical shields since those projectiles got no AoE damage). Ophion is gonna get nerfed too, be careful. The reason i maxed my Ophion is because im always gonna run it, no matter the nerf. Like, the main proof is my entire hangar. Angler is kinda bad in my opinion. It is extremely slow, and you need a lot of speed skills to make it work (just like the Fafnir). If that works for u then its fine, it is still not a completly useless robot like the Ao Jun is. Ravana is good, if you don't have 3 of the same weapons then what u mentioned works just fine. Just letting you know that if Shatter receives an damage nerf, its gonna be effective only at MK2 levels since it receives 80% bonus damage through the MK2 levels (In other words, if it receives an damage nerf, Shatter will be useless at MK1 levels) Rook is good, Vajra is good. Try getting black market keys and opening super chests, i do like that it is totally possible for f2p's to open super chests now. You may as well get some sonic weapons from the gold chest. Once again, careful with the Lynx and Ophion as they will receive nerfs. Tbh i would use different weapons for all those robots, but hey, you can run what you like. If you wish to play competitive, go with Sonic weapons on Imugi if you wanna play close range. I would say the same for Angler, but the robot is that slow that it can't even approach enemies if you're gonna run 200 meter weapons. U could run a Decay Blight build on that even if its not an medium range robot i guess. Try your best to get more weapons, watch ads for keys, do not sell the weapons unless they are Rust rockets or norse weapons. Btw people say that your weapons level must be higher than your robot level, but honestly i would keep them at the same level. (Level 9 robot, level 9 weapon). Low level robots are slow, and they die in 1 single mothership blast. It would be a lie to say that upgrading them doesn't matter, but you'll also need strong weapons. I run lvl 6 Nuclear Amplifiers on my robots so i guess i could even run mk1 weapons and make them work well enough.

[@aqop5548]

@@DenisFox- im trying to get keys as much as possible for x2 or x1.5 superchest load rate and it works fine i guess I know that ophion will get nerfed (even normal ophion is silently nerfed but people know about that one (talking about the absorber shield drops when ability ends and you start to drop from sky)) but my other robots in my inventory are like made out of cheap plastic (except leo and raijin, they are tanky but also very slow), i might get something like ao guang or raven (if i get the nessa riggs for it) to replace the ophion Im trying to get another redeemer for redeemer for lynx, if i dont get it from black market i will make one on workshop after building missing havocs for ravana About the angler, it was my first meta robot when it was meta but it got nerfed to ground, i think i will use blast shotguns on it Imugi with magnetar and pulsar works good for me, it annoys people a lot lol. If i had 1 more hazard and 1 blight i would run hazards and blight instead

[@blackmind2095]

You're absolutely right man I'm in master league and my ass is always red due to how the matchmakers have been doing with me, free for all is soo fucked up by ocho that you'll barely survive a minute, tdm is scorpions and ochos, my win rate was 60% before now it's 40% i even got an ophion that's why I'm still at 40%, waiting desperately for ocho nerf😢

[@MechAnimalWR]

I’ll be honest, I didn’t read all you wrote in the video and in the pinned comment, but, right from the start I believe I know already to which Adrian video you are making a reference! I remember I watched a bit of that video and I was like: “ oh Adrian, like come on with this crap”… so yeah.. a lot of people forget that this big names WR KZbinrs are first content creators and while they pretend they care about their viewers they care more about views/watch time and revenue of course! Props to you for risking and exposing such content creators for their lame actions! 👊🏻

[@DenisFox-]

Im not saying he may not care about his viewers. I don't wanna personally attack him (like he did when he accused me coming from a cheater clan). I do not know his true intentions, but what i know is that he is hand in hand with Pixonic and he tries to lie to people by saying they can counter the meta, in the hopes to silence them. Also, it is ok, i realized this kind of videos has wayyy to much text!

[@Coinopoly]

@@DenisFox- The thing I find amusing is a lot of people don't seem to understand what META means. It means (M)aximum (E)ffective (T)actical (A)dvantage. Think M1A1 Abrams 120mm canon vs an old WWII Sherman with a 75mm canon. The M1A1 Abrams would be better in that comparison; the Abrams is META. By very definition, if you're running meta you have the advantage. And I think you DO get that, but a lot of people just throw around "META" like it's some hip cool buzz word. It's not. It has a specific meaning. And then don't even get started on squadding. If you make the mistake of forming a 3+ man squad because you and a couple buddies want to play together - forget it - you may as well just uninstall. You're going to run into full squads that will often have about 30 fully maxed META bots and 6 fully maxed META titans. If your team isn't running that too, then you're about to get your teeth kicked in. And if you are running that, well congratulations now you're all just beating your heads against a wall. Now it just comes down to who makes a mistake or who lags out. Because as you say in the video, WR isn't a skill game. And really TBH a lot of games aren't skill based any more. You pretty much have to solo queue, duo queue, join a META clan and only 6 man META squad or a lot of your gaming time will be a very frustrating experience. Most of my clan is gone from the game now. Why? Because the old players got tired of the BS, and the new players found out within ~6 - 9 months at the most just how bad Pixonic is so they quit the game. I still play just because I'm still able to compete with my small fortune worth of gear, but with each update that becomes less true. A maxed raptor with all the right stuff isn't unbeatable, but usually that's when I'm in my Ultimate Fenrir. If the Raptor is running at least 1 subduer or damper, forget it. Makes my tank useless. By the time I get a raptor, there will probably be at least two newer bots in the game.

[@Sp4rce]

At last. I called him out on one of his videos in a now deleted comment a couple of years ago, we had like a 30 comment argument which basically was him trying to defend pixonic saying that the game is skill based and not completely P2W.

[@DenisFox-]

Well there is no way he can delete anything now :)

[@GoodGaminGG209]

Knowing that current metas are Dagons, Ochokochis, Crisis, Ophions, UE bots, and Newtons, (possibly the Eiffel) that are dominating the servers, theres always a reminder that skill based and dumb meta are like complete polar opposites, Adrian should at least known by it rn

[@DenisFox-]

If the game was balanced and everything would have counterplay then yea the game would he skill based, but it is not. Adrian is trapped in the old Wr days where counting the enemy ability cooldown in your head was actually useful. What is he gonna do now, count their drone skills cooldown, modules cooldown, magically guess how much MS charge they have and when they'll randomly use it?

[@ibanamel]

Nailed it in the head again. Couldn't disagree even if I wanted to cause it's the truth...we just don't want to admit it.

[@DenisFox-]

Apparently people think im "whining", they didn't even watch the end of the video and they comment LOL. I mean i knew im gonna get a few hate comments but at least people should watch the video before writing them xD. Like, its just logical thinking, what i am saying is said in a purpose.

[@dr.dolphi8915]

i read through everything, and there will be no hate from me.. .. i have been critical of the dream hangar proposed-upgrades.. meaning; ohh add better mothership, drone (+lvl it up), weapons, pilot skills.. .. well yeah.. i would have, if i had the resources, but wIthout spending $$$ how are you gonna get those things?? watch adds, and missions still maxxing 1 drone takes FOREVER!!, the besr motherships arent in blackmarket boxes (yet) and not availabt even to build.. also; pc players complaining about lagg means nothing to me.. .. everyone on pc should be forced to play mobile for a week.. see how bad it really is!! 😂😂. thx for your opinion.

[@DenisFox-]

Thanks for understanding my points. Adrian Chong keeps giving advice to players, but never mentions a thing about microchips and memorium, two currencies mostly avaible for money. The amount we get for free is absurdly low, and 1 drone takes 1 year to max out, and in the time, they'll nerf your drone for no reason 😂. Pc players have it easy, mobile is so unoptimized and so laggy.

[@zafred6424]

Theres no possible way to max ONE drone without spending money. Matter off fact I’ll hit this comment up later after I do some maths and testing to figure out the time period it would take using EVERY LAST METHOD of getting microchips without spending a hundred dollars.

[@antkid7xd363]

Ngl, Meta CAN be countered with non meta… BUTTT it takes either EMP or teamwork.

[@DenisFox-]

Killing someone who isn't focused on you doesn't mean "counter". When you say " teamwork", are mostly mean that you can kill a Ocho which is fighting one of your teammates. Each robot should be countered in 1v1', and you cannot tell me that Ao Jun is capable of countering the Ochokochi. Items should be countered by skillful play, not by running a specific setup. Typhon is deadly to any robot and the EMP is strong indeed, but Ochos may run anti-jamming support for emp immunity, and since they can spam motherships every 12 seconds since their ability charges the mothership extremely fast, they will almost never be EMP'd

[@antkid7xd363]

@@DenisFox- Um, just to clarify, by teamwork I meant when the ocho is trying to spawn raid your team and is attacking Everyone, but yes, I do agree that what you said it true… and the anti-jamming support does counter the emp. But this is another problem entirely, by war robots… They PROMISED us motherships would not have such an impact on the game but they broke their promise…

[@antkid7xd363]

@@DenisFox- I have killed an ocho before with my Erebus with termok hels, but I know he wasn’t playing the ocho properly based on how quick he died 😅

[@DenisFox-]

@@antkid7xd363 Must've been an low level Ocho. I do kill them sometimes also in the Ao Jun. Btw yeah the devs aren't trustworthy, the motherships literally change the battle in the favor of the ones which run meta, since as you can see, meta weapons do charge motherships faster than most of the older weapons (Puncher/ Redemeers are still great for charging the ms too)

[@Coinopoly]

@@antkid7xd363 That's just Pixonic's play book to the T. Years ago they also nerfed Ravana and shotguns saying they won't want the game to be "Warrvanas"; only to then release sonic weapons (scatter, havoc, devastator). Pixonic lie through their teeth. I'm actually surprised the EU doesn't have some law that bans them from the EU for their shady business practices.

[@THECOLTISREAL]

Adrian and the reddit mods really like to defend pixonic for obvious reasons, I prefer watching manni and ad, they r more honest about the state of the game and the craps that pigsonic is doing, if u run a non meta hangar in master and champion, ur win depends on how much big bois r in ur team compares to theirs, i got sick of the nerf cycles and how pigsonic is monetizing the game, new things will have a 4 months free trial in the meta and then get nerfed to the ground, my hangar bout to get hammered bc they gonna nerf the ophion, ocho and possibly the lynx, note that these r all f2p. Yes, adrian's tips r helpful but only when u dont face against a meta hangar with mk3 stuffs. One last thing is that i don't frickin know how the ocho was built to be the best tank, scout, attacker, this meta is probably the worst in the recent years

[@DenisFox-]

Reddit mods are also Pixonic defenders. Got banned on the whole reddit because of a post related to balancing, wasn't even disrespectful or anything. This is the worst meta wr has ever faced, previous metas weren't as powerful as this one.

[@DenisFox-]

Reddit app isnt that bad, its just that 99,99% of the times, the people there are morons, especially subreddit moderators. Like, if they do not like you, you get banned 😂 Idc about the ban tbh im keeping it to see news about Wr.

[@CheckHertz]

Actually, these points may help me! I MUST NOT become like this. I am here to HELP the WR community.

[@LuminousCatt]

You're correct about content creators, most of them are all the same. I myself am a self-taught player of this game and never took advice from others (including KZbinrs). I'm not much of a skilled player myself, but maybe someone who has decent knowledge on how to play the game with some tactics.

[@DenisFox-]

It is sad that youtubers are pretty much forced to run meta. Old equipment requires much more footage, and some items are so bad that it is impossible to bring content about. If i had an maxed account like content creators do, and i had the possibility to bring videos about any robot i want then JEEZ. No more Ao Jun videos from 2 years ago, no more nightingale videos from 1 year ago. I will upload videos about every single robot from the game, not meta and ultimate bs. They are realistic about the unhealthy balance while Adrian says that its all skill, tactics and beacons.

[@nicm.z9868]

As of right now, I'm still struggling to even get a new mothership. I am not a free to play, I am a low spender too. I don't buy meta equipment, instead I buy currencies to upgrade my already existing weapons (which have absolutely no chance against the metas).

[@DenisFox-]

The current meta is simply not allowing us to do anything: Ochokochis are there to chew us and we cannot even shot at it in its ability, Tonans Newton pulls us out of cover, our titans get 1 shotted by broken meta weapons, we get inflicted by 30 stacks of rust and we become unable to heal, we get spammed my botherships which blind and emp us for 10 seconds and maybe lockdown us too for 5 seconds if they have the turret, etc. We will struggle if they keep releasing dumb as heck items which have zero counterplay.

[@nicm.z9868]

@@DenisFox- The worst part (imo) is that when the meta eventually gets nerfed, there's always another new set of robots and equipments (maybe even motherships or legendary pilots) to take its place. It's an endless cycle that only stops when War Robots finally dies completely. I think Rust should be capped at 50% healing reduction, because like, support bots gotta do something or else they're useless. And DOT, it should not go though last stand in my opinion. Funny thing is, I find WR Test Server to be more entertaining because we get everything for free. (Excluding bugs which ruins gameplay)

[@DenisFox-]

Yea but as i kept saying, this meta is the worst meta WR has ever faced. Pixonic wants us to be absolute idiots, spend for some virtual stuff which will be nerfed to the ground in 4 months, just to rip us off of our money.

[@Abhisheksharma-o7s]

The problem with Adrian is he doesn't believe the game is pay to win and refuses that it can be improved ,he always says that a game is like business so the company has to do these things but I have seen much bigger games than war Robot improve just because the community and creator worked together . Most games nowadays have meta but not at these extend . Most of the f2p players have already left the game u can see that in matchmaking I am in a master's league not even champion still I see 2-3 ochos just rushing with rust weapo. Those who don't have meta weapons or robots are just bystander ,hoping someone in their team have some ochos . I don't know how Adrian doesn't get them cause we are in same league maybe because he plays once or twice in a month . U can have a good matches once a month it's not a big deal . U are right in saying that a player should be able to run anything they like and not win just because they are not meta anymore . Ochos and Newton have no counterplay I have seen matches turn just from 1 Newton , Eventually they are gonna get nerfed but then a new meta will come and it will keep going on until community and creators don't decide otherwise . Honestly I was happy manni left the game but he returned for not getting enough support . I agree with u in lot of terms 💯👍

[@DenisFox-]

Pubg Mobile and Cod Mobile will FOREVER surpass Pixonic revenue, no matter how pay to win War Robots becomes. It is because those 2 games are popular? Yes. War Robots is not a bad game, it had the potential to become one of the best mobile games if it wasn't pay to win, and this is true. In Adrian eyes, the only problem are the cheaters. They are indeed a problem, but he wants only the things that bother him to be fixed. He doesn't care about Pay to win since he owns every item, he doesn't care about trash optimization since he plays on a pc, he only cares about the problem HE is facing. Games do have meta, but i don't think the old items are being nerfed to the ground for no reason just to be rendered useless. Call of Duty mobile released 500$ mythic rarity skins, which are mostly given to strong weapons, which are sometimes meta, but once they receive nerfs, they won't be ruined and would make the weapon useless. In War Robots, investing in the newest items is risky as heck and it is a waste of resources. Adrian does tell players that Lynx is good but he never says that the robot will receive another nerf. Oh oh trust me, Adrian DOES face that kind of enemies also. I am not really a content creator, but i do know how they think and how they record and upload only videos where they perform good (Tbh, out of all the Wr youtubers, i can give some credit to Danny for uploading realistic games). I could upload some video, tell players that Cossack is a Tonans Newton counter just because i manage to kill 1 single lvl 3 newbie, and then people would believe me. 😂😂 I do know that my hangar is weak compared to the other robots, but why should i be building a specific robot, which i don't like, just to have a slighty higher chance to counter an Ocho? Typhon, Fenrir, Ravana, or any other robot would still be melted if the Ocho has at least 2 IQ. Tonans Newton still ruin every robot, no matter how good it is. I did support Manni decision, it is just that he has a lot of fake fans that do not support him as a content creator and only care about War Robots. You know Phoenix right? An old Wr youtuber, he used the be the third biggest wr content creator. I occasionally go and comment to his videos, he uploads some game which im not interested about, neither i like, but i still showed support. I did the same to Adrian and Manni. I don't like fortnite yet i did go and support Adrian videos. Glad you could see my points. Like, i have no problem with the meta, it is annoying, it does require 0 skill, but if i was a big content creator, i wouldn't lie to my fans by saying that this game is not pay to win. War Robots has everything which a pay to win game has.

[@Abhisheksharma-o7s]

@@DenisFox- I am playing codm since 2022 and never realised they have till I watched some videos online because u always have a chance and counter that meta is acceptable to some extent . I don't know phoenix man 😅 I started this game like 8 -9 months ago Yeah Danny does upload honest games and give honest opinion .

[@DenisFox-]

​@@Abhisheksharma-o7sYeah, Grau is pretty annoying to face, has 0 recoil, fires fast and 4 shots, but at least it is not an full auto gun which 1 shots you (literally if the Wr meta would be converted into Codm). Phoenix was great, he was exactly like Predator in my opinion, back in the days. Predator did also start by uploading simple videos without using a face cam. Phoenix videos were simple, but at the time, he was a legend in the wr community. I don't follow Danny content often but i do respect a lot that he is being real.

[@Abhisheksharma-o7s]

@@DenisFox-yeah 👍

[@JoeA418]

​@denisfox7339 manni, Adrian, are under a non-disclosure agreement with pix so we will never see them saying anything that pix don't want said. They are pix biggest money makers when it comes to selling new products they pump out. They themselves make a nice chunk of money from KZbin & I'm sure pix helps with getting them viewers. Pix post their videos on Facebook and I'm sure they get several thousand people to view their KZbin, neither one ever shows what lvl of players they are going up against so most likely noobs with meta equipment some of their games are just to easy & resemble nothing I have played against. They are pix biggest cheerleaders.

[@mmax_19]

good luck defending beacons using Seraph Decays and Hawk bendys lol.

[@DenisFox-]

It is not those robots problem, i can easily defend beacons whenever my enemies aren't using Noobokochis. Edit: If it is a 1v1 i can. I obviously won't be able to stop multiple enemies.

[@cuong9064]

First 3:00 is out of context 😂😂. Well say bro! Everyone need to see the truth that the game is P2W

[@DenisFox-]

I mean, everyone does know that, but they rather agree that it is not just because their favorite content creator thinks so. Everyone knows it is pay to win even if they don't want to admit it. Glad you enjoyed.

[@Niuskayz]

I remember when I had really bad beginner weapons. Bots with regenerating Aegis shield... The shields regenerate faster than I did damage to it. I'm so unskilled for not having better strategy against that. On a serious note this game is definitely *NOT* balanced and *IS* p2w. My *highest* bot lvl is mk1 lvl 7 with mk1 lvl 7 weapons, yet I'm constantly paired up against full mk2/3 teams. Usually when my bots are out of stealth they die in around two seconds (1.used to be about half a second or less so it's much better already)(2.except my skyros which I got not so long ago, it's great)

[@dominicm2175]

You need to remake this video with voice commentary…….most viewers aren’t going to read that small type

[@DenisFox-]

Then do no watch the video. Most of the people haven't complained about that.

[@ori_ridley6612]

I remembered I tryed to face a Ocho with my Irony Ravana and launched me to half of the map while in my Ravana's ability. The only way to counter a Ocho is to spend a lot of money because I never EVER saw a F2P player beating a Mk3 Ocho once. 😔😔

[@DenisFox-]

After all its nerfs, it become pretty balanced in a way, but the latest Ocho nerf pretty much took it out of the meta. The 17 seconds cooldown may be too much, i would've gone for 14 or 15 seconds

[@ori_ridley6612]

​@@DenisFox-. Ophion's ability lastest shortly on cooldown, as soon it lands after 4 seconds it goes up in the sky again when in the details says 12 seconds of cooldown

[@DenisFox-]

@@ori_ridley6612 wait, it flies after 4 seconds??

[@ori_ridley6612]

@@DenisFox-. Imagen landing and then going flight again in less thann5 seconds

[@ori_ridley6612]

To be full honest I do feel kinda sad by realizing too much painful and truthful informations and comments, I would be lieing if I say I do not agree because I feel the same way

[@lonespanker2823]

In my opinion, these games are "pay for power" you are buying time. there is no guarantee that you'll win. Granted more power definitely helps, but you must already possess the necessary skills to employ, to beat stronger or smarter opponents.

[@DenisFox-]

More power, the better chances of winning. Imagine a fps shooter where you use a sniper rifle which deals 1 damage and you go against a fully automatic weapon which deals 100 damage. The most powerful weapon wins, the same in war robots. There is a reason legend league players all use meta in their hangar, because they want to play competitive, and what competitive players want to achieve? Victories. Not even the most skilled player in the world stands a chance against an Ocho when running an Orochi with old weapons. The meta equipment is so brain-dead nowadays compared to the meta years ago. Nowadays, the meta has short ability cooldowns, insane durability/ speed, "bUgGeD" abilities, and there are a lot of second-chance items saves the players from mistakes. Back in the day, a mistake would get yout robot killed. Even if someone with a full Ocho hangar loses, they will be first in their team WITHOUT A DOUBT, and the only possible chance of them losing would be if the enemies having more meta than the full ocho player had. The game ain't skill based, and will never be unless the devs balance everything out, something impossible to happen. The "Basics" Adrian keeps talking about is basic game knowledge, which everyone MUST have after a few games of playing. Domination/Beacon Rush are the typical "Capture the point" gamemodes which tons of games have. Knowing the objective and that you have to capture its just how you play the game. This is the exact same thing as telling a TDM player that they need to kill the enemy to win. I would love to see Adrian defend beacons in his level 6 Crisis against fully maxed Ochos and see how the "basics" which he is talking about will help him.

[@cosmicraider4505]

Nah man this probably the most logical video from a wr youtuber. I firmly ask you to upload more about this.but commenting on predator wr or manni wr because they see somewhat more of the truth

[@DenisFox-]

Tbh i don't feel like making such videos. I made this one about Adrian because he keeps saying nonsense and that was annoying for me. Predator and Manni aren't afraid to spit out anything about the game, while Adrian feels the community lies

[@cosmicraider4505]

@@DenisFox- ok bro We have got nothing to do for non-p2w players like me, in my league an ophion or okochochi is always enough to thrash another game.Even if all these were bad.pixonic should’ve increased drop rates.For example i grinded 10 superchest in WR for and guess what! I got 5 freedom skyros and 3 erebus and 1 hawks.i swear it seems fale but it literally is true..

[@tahsin_gaming_wr]

Yh bro i tryed watching your video but just no reading is not for me i know u put a lot of hard work into writing them dwon but idk i just don't like writing

[@DenisFox-]

Its ok. Thanks for coming by

[@Legendary_Tav_WR]

I watched the entire video lol ... I paused and read the whole thing... It takes time ... But it's worth it

[@RixingZero]

Nowadays in Wr skil only used when the bot equipped with dominating capabilites, saying using old stuff to compete or anyting else, well not everyone can get the certain robot from low drop rate gacha on the game, on event gacha it's main rewads is just components plus to have better one need to pay for it, there's no such skill using when new stuuf like now are dominating the game making it one side win/loss on match.

[@DenisFox-]

There are amazing workshop bots which work fine, but they're still gonna be demolished by meta. We should use what we like, and use tactics and skill to counter the enemy, not specific setups which we do not like. Good point!

[@RixingZero]

@@DenisFox- yeah, currently my only way to counter ochokochi are using ophon pulsar and scorpion sonic that i got long time ago from components and build the rest of two of it. It's totally hard to adapt now.

[@NotJxeremy]

That's why we watch Manni, that's why Manni gets more views and subs, he KNOWS what the community is facing about, never watched Adrian because his contents are wayyyyy to boring than Manni or predator

[@DenisFox-]

I don't find his content boring to be honest. Manni has some good energy in his videos and he isn't hiding anything he wants to say. When i see Adrian videos and i hear some bs he says such as "You gotta focus on the basics" when talking about champion league gameplay where everyone should know how to play, im simply losing interest into watching. He doesn't have to rant, but he has to stop lying... He is not a bad content creator but he spreads misinformation.

[@Skeleboner-b6v]

I saw this video and i thought you are pretty darn right, i looked around your channel for a while and noticed you responded to almost all of your comments. I thought it would be pretty darn cool if we could get in touch and maybe talk about wr and stuff, you seem to share simular opinions and stuff as me. So maybe we could talk sometime?

[@DenisFox-]

Would love that but i don't know any good platform where i could talk with people. Reddit and Discord are dead for me. Glad im not the only one who thinks this way 👍

[@Skeleboner-b6v]

Idk maybe we could try playing together sometime? My user ID is R6DWIM and i play on android.

[@DenisFox-]

@@Skeleboner-b6v yes, sure. It looks like you have a Rook. I was thinking to squad up with 2 or 3 Rook titans for a video, i dont wanna spoil the video idea yet, but it is something unique which no other youtuber made a video about. Be sure you stay tuned, i will post in the community tab from my channel whenever i will make that video.

[@Skeleboner-b6v]

Oh thats awesome! I also would just want to squad with you for fun, also my hanger is much better i just swiched some things out for a mission which was damage for icarus robots. Sry for the response delay too, i was with my grandma all day and was in the car for many hours

[@Skeleboner-b6v]

Alsoif you added me on wr we could chat on there lol, i have 9600 gold to upgrade some of my stuff to mk2, but it would eb very nice if you added me back so i could see you hangar and so we couldntalk on there. (Btw i made my hangar back to normal)

[@CheckHertz]

I whole heartedly agree the game is SEVERELY P2W, but my videos strive to show that it IS F2P Possible, albeit a bit bleak on that regard. I know WR is likely a lost cause... but I am known for Optimism IRL, so maybe... just... maybe the game will change. There is my unwritten rule... If Manni TRUELY leaves. I'll give it ONE month, then so will I. If I don't stay with WR at its worst, I feel as if I don't deserve it at its best... And I already was there when WR was at its best... maybe the best is yet to come... Who knows? Thanks Mate!

[@WWRTheJudge]

Agree 💯👍🏻

[@DenisFox-]

Thanks for seeing my points. All i wish is that Adrian would stop giving false hope to players, ESPECIALLY to begginers by saying that the game is skill based and not pay to win. He kills some Crisis newbies by using meta robots, deploys meta in their spawn and acts like that is a skilful play. Once again, not saying he is bad, but as someone who used hard robots such as Ao Jun, Hawk, Fafnir and Seraph (Seraph is hard to use after all its nerfs), i am laughing my a** off seeing someone feel so accomplished of killing players with MK1 equipment.

[@WWRTheJudge]

That's true, every word 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@evobsm2328]

Please someone tell me my taran bulgasari (and haechi and kumiho with orkans) from ancient times is still viable 😂😂😢(i just got back into the game)

[@ChiuShangWohCtss]

Don’t worry I suck more Denis😂

[@DenisFox-]

Nah bro i should delete the game, Ochokochi is supposed to be the easiest robot to kill, and i couldn't even kill 2 with my insanely overpowered meta Seraph :(

[@serjhlot3115]

Hello there! I watched the whole video, (edit:) and the comment too it was boring ngl, but it contained truth and as veteran player myself I really thankful to you for posting it, like really Thank you. I'm afraid I'll be leaving the game by the end of this month, leaving the game I enjoyed from my childhood, leaving game I after all still have strong passion to... Hopefully one day it will change, sadly I have on more patience to wait for these changes..., But for you I wish luck, hopefully this video won't affect your channel in a bad way and hey, Have Fun!

[@DenisFox-]

Yeah, this video was definitely boring. A lot of text, but the funny part is, im making an second part about it and i may use voice commentary (i don't guarantee). Leaving a game we love is very hard bro... Im playing it since 2016 and i grinded a lot in it. Despite all the atrocious pay to win, i am still having fun sometimes. You are doing the right decision, hopefully one day i'll do the same. I already promised that i am quitting if they nerf the Decays. Thank you for watching and for this comment! Wish you the best 😁!

[@serjhlot3115]

​@@DenisFox- Hmm... Maybe I will watch second part, I do not guarantee) I started playing around 2016-2017, I played it just for fun, nowadays it's mostly grind... I too have fun in this game, sometimes... 1-3 in 50 battles are fun, 20-25 I got spawn raided and other are just plain. I always played with what I like, like you, game on hard mode, considered this my own challenge... Meta stuff? That continues for long time already, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying it's good, But after whole that thing with ultimate versions of robots that not long ago started... Especially with update that's about to come, seeing this Ultimate Ao Ming while mine 150lvl Ao Ming just standing there in the back of my hangar, barely has 400000 being maxed out while literally every other titan has this amount not being upgraded at all, Ao Ming - once like a thunder in the clear sky, now piece of flying meat... Why'd they add new ones? Why breaking game with new imbalanced? Why don't fix the ones we already have? Ofc I know the answer - money, But the robots, the weaponry - they are all good: designs, ideas, it's all so versatile and has a right to live, the game just needs huge rebalance I don't find my decision to leave this game right, it's just for "good" y'know. But yeah, shortly after they adding this Ultimate Ao Ming - I'm leaving the game.

[@Coinopoly]

I'm pretty convinced Adrian cheats in some way. I've 1:1 him a few times; by this I mean it was just him and I in a match in a relatively isolated area of the map. I haven't met up with Adrian to go into a custom game. One time I vividly remember. I was in a pre-nerf maxed Khepri, with the maxed old drones before the rework and maxed chip. Misaki and Ponchy pilot. Again, maxed. Was using the double damage point stack build using drone microchips and the Misaki and Ponchy pilot, which Adrian himself also talked about in some of his videos. I had maxed tiger scatter. We were playing moon map. It was just him and I on the right-hand side of the map from my perspective. Him, in a POST nerf Fafnir in flight, just annihilated me. I barely scratched his slow AF fafnir hovering there right in front of me. Pressed my active module, unloaded every shot I had with my 4 maxed scatters and 100% expected to just obliterate him. Nope! Guy barely lost something like 5 or 10%, and yet just blew me out of the water like it was Andre the Giant smacking around an 8 lb house cat. It was so over the top obvious that the encounter was complete BS. I've had other similar run ins with him, I just don't remember all the details like I do this one. I point blank called the guy a hacker/cheat, and he starts going on and on about how to build a bot. Listen. I have thousands of dollars of equipment in War Robots. I have 5 or 6 maxed ultimate bots. I have plenty. About one of the only things I don't have right now, are the two newer ships the Mute and the Avalon. Other than that, I've pretty much been maxed for the past 2 - 3 years. And that guy is trying tot ell me how to build a better bot. I'm f'n MAXED, and he's trying to say my build isn't strong enough and that's why I lost. 100% complete BS. I've ran into Predator a bunch back before he changed his name every 5 minutes. Smoked him plenty of times. I usually don't run into Manni because I don't play at 2am US time. I've smacked around Danny Lightning plenty of times (he's not the best example though tbh), and I've beaten plenty of people plenty of times. Adrian? Nope. Can't beat Adrian. Somehow magically just doesn't take damage. 🤔

[@DenisFox-]

It would've been amazing if you recorded tho...

[@Coinopoly]

@@DenisFox- Yeah. I know. I will say this though, this is my KZbin channel account. I use my real voice and appear on camera. I 100% stand by what I said. I wouldn't expect you to believe me and certainly not create content based on what I'm saying, however I'm also not just some anonymous person making some crazy claim. I might be wrong, but quite frankly in this case it is guilty until proven innocent as far as I'm concerned. IMO, Adrian is not legitimate.

[@fallenknight4943]

Have you ever noticed youtubers showcasing new bots/weapons and every match they go into the reds have lvl1 last stands like pixonics places them in diamlnd or expert league

[@alejandropeca7515]

YES!! I've noticed that especially with predators videos. He is always against weaker enemies, not at all my experience in champion league.

[@DenisFox-]

Yup. The enemies they face in the videos are way weaker than enemies should be in CL. I guess they just record till they get good footage, but i wouldn't be surprised if Pixonic purposely make them go against weak players

[@ori_ridley6612]

I don't even know what to think my brain it's spinning, to be honest War Robots Remastered turned into P2W since the system of MK2 which that was more than 6 or 7 years

[@DenisFox-]

Yeah, but Adrian still defends it. Like, he doesn't have to rant, all he has to do is stop lying and saying that tactics win you games 😅

[@ori_ridley6612]

​@@DenisFox-. Guess you're right, we all must act realistic against Pixonic

[@Andy-xn9zn]

I have some ideas regarding the rebalancing of tier 3 robots and old meta robots. If you're interested, please reach out to me.

[@DenisFox-]

Already working on a rebalance video 😉

[@Andy-xn9zn]

@@DenisFox- want to compare rebalances?

[@tonmoyghosh8513]

This game sucks, it is a pay to win game. PIGSONIC repeatedly doing that thing just gram more and more money. Game has become unplayable because of so many things. People should stop buying anything in that game because a pay to win game does not have future. Moreover, people buy stuff and after selling enough of those stuff PIGSONIC nerf them, and bring new overpower stuffs. Did the players pay for the nerfed product? No, but they keep buying stuffs like mad and that makes that company greedier and encourage them to bring more and more overpowered stuffs. This must be stopped, and one can stop it until people stop buying things. Manni gaming complaining about this type of illegal activity but that company seemed not to care. I think PIGSONIC now systematically match low level players with high level players just to make that low level players feel that they don't stand a chance and they should buy those stuffs to make a resistance. Winning matches becomes so hard but despite that I have reached Champions league I do not know how! I think PIGSONIC also has done something here. This is a nice game but that greedy company trying so hard to kill it. Only the stupid buyers of the overpowered stuffs keep that game still floating.

[@DenisFox-]

We all know the game is pay to win, but Adrian knows that and says the game is skill based. Some of his viewers cannot think for themselves, and they are on his side just to defend him, DESPITE they ALSO knowing about the game being pay to win. They agree with Adrian because he is their favorite content creator. The video wasn't about pay to win mostly, i did covered it up in the video since Adrian said the game was skill based. I don't like to be rude to the spenders, but i do agree that if they spend 800$ (or more) a month on robots which will be nerfed in 4 months, they do lack brain cells and they indeed keep the game alive.

[@RogatkaWR]

7:55 Not hating on you here, but on my F2P account I'm 62nd place in Master I with 4,829 trophies robots and I only squad with people at my rank or lower in my chat. My robots are level 6 at the highest, level 7-8 on most of my weapons that I've upgraded so far. I saved up 2,000 Platinum from the Extermination event over the course of 10 weeks to buy the Luchador, then upgraded it to level 45 and got T2 modules for it. Back when the Frozen Scorn was relatively new, I saved up enough components from the event and got one, with the default turrets still on there to this day. Everything I've got on this account was free, but instead of using old meta robots that got nerfed to the ground like Ao Jun and Hawk, I look for robots that got past Pixo's greediness like the Ravana and the Fenrir (which Adrian recommends a lot, and I would too) because they CAN still hold up against the meta. My weapons can all be built in the workshop as well, making them pretty easy to get. While Adrian is wrong on a few things, like being able to hold your own against the newest things, I can tell you from personal experience on two separate accounts that not every battle is like that down in Master II. Sure, you'll have those games, but when I do, I don't go after those players, instead focusing their weaker teammates. You only see a full meta squad every 100-200 games or so down there, and even then it's mostly the people down in Gold squadded up with Master players to get into higher games while wielding a pocket dimension with as much money as they could hope for. That's all Adrian's facing on his baby account. Hypermaxed players aren't as much of a problem if you're outside high Champion/Legend League, so yes, with enough skill and the ability to play for at least an hour or two a day, you can reach high Master League without paying a dime. Nobody likes P2W players, but until Pixo snaps out of the high they got off of greed, we're just going to have to learn to deal with them. I agree with you that there is no way to fight these kinds of players, but the best we can do for now is avoid them in the matchmaking system and on the battlefield.

[@DenisFox-]

As i've said in the video, you can still win and get Champion league as a f2p player. When facing meta enemies, your chances or winning are lower. What is the definition of a Pay to win game? "Pay To Win is defined as games in which you get an advantage in the game if you spend real money on items, weapons or features and are thus clearly superior to other players. Most of the time, such games are free-to-play, making it very easy to get started in the game." You do win games and manage to reach champion league too (I hit it with Ao Jun, Fafnir, Nightingale, Seraph, Hawk and Sirius). I've never said it is impossible to obtain it. All i said that the game is indeed pay to win and Adrian says it is not, he thinks the basics and tactics matter the most. You can obtain thropies even if you hit top 4th/5th/6th. I am really curious to see what items you run so u can drop me your ID if you wish. Lets be real, when you face full Ocho squads or meta enemies, are your low leveled items gonna do something against them? Are you gonna survive 1 mothership or scratch 1 maxed Ocho with low level weapons? Not everyone is running the same boring robots Adrian recommends. Some of us got different playstyles, im not gonna fill my hangar with robots i dont like just for slighty higher chances of beating the meta. Even with Ravana and Fenrir, an Ocho with Deft survivor pilot skill would melt the Ravana and the Fenrir would be melted by Dampers/ Deceivers. I can't count how many times i've killed Ravanas, Fenrirs, Demeters, Typhons and other robots like that just by running Ao Jun, Hawk, Fafnir and Seraph. In Champion league, every single game has at least 2 Tonans Newtons in the enemy team, at least 3 or more Ochokochis with Dampers zooming across the map, 500 Ophions flying around and other annoying meta crap. You said "You dont go after those players, you focus their weaker teammates", so im gonna assume if some Ochokochi pushes your beacon and you cannot defend it, you're gonna leave it to the Ocho, or use Adrian advice and get ur robot killed for no reason by trying to get a beacon back? Adrian himself said he doesn't play much on his baby account, and he opens the game just to watch ads. Crazy how he "reached" master without playing 1-2 hours a day, right? There is no way to deal with this meta. This is the worst meta war robots ever had. Ochokochi is unkillable, has an immense amount of hp, short cooldown, charges the mothership incredibly fast with the knockback field. The players can run a Beak or a Hiruko to save themselves while their ability is on cooldown, or they can just spam Paladin shields over and over since they seem to get shields every 10 seconds. Tonans Newton has no counterplay, you cannot even approach it because it is gonna make you fly and 1 shot you with no problem. It is a sniper titan yet has 220 defense points, an absurdly high amount which surpasses titans which are supposed to fight in close range. An Dagon with full aegis pilot skills and the pilot has an indestructible shield. If you fight it solo, without the shield breaker module, you're gonna die 100%. Ophion is the easiest meta robot to kill for me, i manage to counter them in my Fafnir. Curie is incredibly stupid, is capable of having over 600k durability, has a 6 seconds ability cooldown with the pilot, and has 2 turrets which deal absurd damage. Not even Mars turret was this strong. War Robots shows all the signs of a pay to win game. It is a fun game when the enemies do not run meta? Yes, incredibly fun. No matter what, meta will always stomp old equipment. I kill Ocho players which have no clue on how to build robots in a Ao Jun sometimes. I even made a video on "How to build robots properly" because i know there are a lot of people who don't know how. Thanks for your comment, but let me summarize everything i said: I never said you cannot win games, i said you cannot win against meta enemies unless you got meta teammates too. Champion league is possible, never said it wasnt. Adrian is lying by saying that tactics, map and beacons is all that matters. His playstyle is outdated, which was incredibly good back in the 2016-2019 days. Times have changed and he doesn't want to admit it. Havea great day/night 🤗

[@RogatkaWR]

@@DenisFox- I mostly agree with you on this, the newest overpowered P2W stuff dominates every game it shows up in, but there are ways to avoid that stuff that I've found in my games to be very efficient. Every time I see an Ocho or a Newton, I try my best to stay out of its line of sight so it doesn't target me as much, get damage in when I can, and use cover if I am seen, preferably tight winding buildings with a lot of turns like on Shenzhen when facing the Ocho as it gives you protection from its firepower and really messes up its ability. Using overhead bridges like on Abyss or even standing up against a wall to slow down your vertical acceleration from the Newton's Choke ability can really help. Even the slightest bit of cover such as the doorways to the colosseum on Rome when facing the Newton can stop you from getting lifted into the air. I've been watching Adrian since before he started his baby account, but back then, he used to play on it a lot more, bringing him up to Champion League with the easiest-to-get robots. While I don't really think he's deserving of that rank on that account anymore, and he should probably be down in Expert at the most because of a lack of playing, he has taught me one thing: Find any strategy possible to counter the meta, no matter how ridiculous your strategy might be. His tips for newer players help out a ton as well, like upgrading weapons before robots to get more silver. His advice has helped me get to where I am now, but I am getting tired of him denying his strategy doesn't work all the time for everyone. You can't just rush into Champion League anymore with low-levelled, over-nerfed robots and weapons and expect it to work. Even I've stopped playing so many battles on my baby account and have resorted to using the 300m silver and 30k gold I saved up to upgrade my robots and weapons so that I can have at least a chance at low Champion League. I'm planning to get all my stuff to at least levels 9-10 from my saved-up resources before going into fight as much as I used to. I even started daily livestreams back in December that I stopped once I finally got to Master 1 because people doubted it was possible to do that without paying. That right there is my drive, to prove to Pixo and the War Robots community that it is possible, with the stuff you can get for free from the workshop and data pads from the Operations, to hold your own against players that are stronger than you. However, Pixo's making that job harder by the day, because at a certain point, you can't stand a chance, even with my near-decade-long experience. Pixo breached that threshold with the past few updates. Hope the best for you and your channel, good night pilot!

[@evobsm2328]

Manni and adrian both. At least manni acknowledges the shit poor state the "game" (nfts really. Or some poor crypto game) is in

[@kokohenker9439]

Your are absolutly Right. Another Problem is the cheating from the Meta Clans. If your see ST-F they have a 3 Mins long Abiliti on there Ochos or They take no DMG, or Landing with Ophion and Start again with 0,1sec Cool Down. But there was an Player From the DDR Clan in the last Day´s, They Helped me To Hold the Beacons, They supportet my Fenrir for a long Time and Hold me Alife. I Protekted him with firepower. We Lost the Game but one Beacon was every time in Blue, The Enemeys Home Beacon!. After he Sporns his Newton, I Bring my Nodens out and Hold him Alife. For this kind of Players i be in the Game and Play Kehpri, Mender, Demeter and Nodens.

[@DenisFox-]

Cheaters are a problem, since i covered 2 videos about them. The only problem Adrian has are the cheaters. They must be banned obviously, but it is so selfish for him to want only his problem to be fixed.

[@chickenz2695]

points favouring denisfox: - it's hard defending beacons with older robots - it is kinda misleading telling players they can take down ochokochis and stuff if they use the right skill because if your equipment is weak you just can't. Adrian on his baby account usually never even tries to face them. - adrian does use some pretty OP stuff on his public livestreams and claiming his victories are primarily from skill - adrian is definitely wrong about the game being balanced in any way and not p2w. As denisfox said, the old war robots is gone. - denisfox has a good point about appearing skilled when using meta stuff and doing well. While you also need skill to win with meta, actually having the meta is still required to be able to compete properly - points favouring adrian: - using more range DOES make you more vulnerable. But note that it is only for beacon rush. Adrian only plays beacon rush. - adrian does actually livestream his baby account, but only to channel members and he does actually do well, partly by pushing vulnerable beacons not guarded by meta - he did prove his point on the yamantau map, and his fafnir died because literally the entire team was shooting him, but they weren't when he was in the hellburner - if your hangar really does that badly against meta, you will probably not be in champion league, and if you are it's because you got lucky with carries or you pushed beacons well - adrian is right about players directing frustration towards him because playing as f2p is very annoying. It's possible though. I crafted myself a semi f2p hangar a while ago and it does work. I personally think it's possible but very annoying to not use meta in champion league. But only in beacon rush. My stuff is very underlevelled but I am still able to place 1st against people who use very high level meta stuff. However, it's just not enjoyable to play as a f2p anymore

[@DenisFox-]

Much appreciated this comment, but i have to say something about the points favouring Adrian. He didn't prove anything with that game. I never said that camping is good, i never said the camping will lead towards the team victory, but having one sniper per team is extremely good most of the times, especially a Crisis Reaper since that setup is really strong. If the player runs robots such as Seraph and Hawk, they have no choice but run medium-long range weapons since that kind of weapons benefit the robot the most. The entire enemy team was shooting when he was in the Curie also btw, his Fafnir died the fastest because it doesn't bring any crazy defensive ability such as the Dagon, Curie and Ochokochi. I think he would've survived that and absorbed a lot of damage if he ran the normal Fafnir, which he calls bad for some reason. I wasn't been carried with my hangar, in fact most of the times i performed better than my allies. I always reached top 3 in team, and even when i lost, my thropies wouldn't be on minus because the top 2 receive thropies despite losing, and top 3 receives 0 thropies (from what i remember), and most of the times i did got more damage than my Ocho teammates thanks to the Fafnir, Ophion and Sirius. If the player always sits in top 3 even when losing, it will not lose Thropies. U can already guess those robots which i run aren't beacon runners. Beacon runner is an actual role the robots play on the battlefield, there is a reason the role even exists, because not every robot is supposed to hold beacons. Adrian never said such stuff, such as "you shouldn't be champion league if your hangar does bad against the meta" (If he did, please let me know where and when). Also, i haven't directed frustration towards him in. I do not see anyone in the comments Manni, Predator, AD, Danny , etc, who are not complaining about the meta and the pay to win game as much as i see people in Adrian comment section doing. Why you may ask? Because Adrian is the only one who keeps giving missinformation such as tactics and beacons is all that matters to win games, and when people hear such stuff, of course they're gonna comment negative stuff since what he says is far from the truth. The basics he is talking about is basic game knowledge which everyone should know in Champion League. This is exactly like reaching the "Predator" rank in Apex Legends. If the player did hit that rank, that means they do know enough about the game and how it is played (However, Apex is a skill-based game, unlike Wr) Someone else did told me in the comment section that he livestreams his baby account to his members, but im not gonna give him money just to see that. He could make 1 single baby account livestream for everyone. I doubt he isn't getting destroyed by maxed MK3 Damper Ochokochis when running that incredibly weak hangar. As i stated in the video, winning with meta is possible but not against meta enemies. The chances of you beating them are very small. An player which knows how to build their Ochos will always die hard. I do not see anyone from his "Ocho counter" videos even running the Deft survivor skill. Really appreciated your opinion. Let me guess (like i almost guessed another person hangar in the comment section) You run Fenrir, Ravana, Typhon, Demeter and Skyros? Not everyone is gonna build these robots, some of us run stuff what we like, and im not gonna build that hangar despite owning all those robots, since i do not like most of them. Skillful play should counter enemies with any robot you run. A F2P player shouldn't be building the same copy-pasted hangar which everyone runs, and Adrian think people should.

[@chickenz2695]

@@DenisFox- bit of a long comment for what I contributed I think your point about people running what they like is a good point. I personally just run easy to get bots that give you invincibility for a while such as raven, because that's what I feel is fun.

[@DenisFox-]

@@chickenz2695 I tried Raven in the current meta and the Ophions with Dampers/Deceivers + QR Pilot were melting me

[@chickenz2695]

@@DenisFox- that's why i use phase shift in case that happens. I find that it is very rare to face flying ophion without phase shift ready

[@DenisFox-]

@@chickenz2695 Im not gonna waste 40 power cells, especially when that pilot its "bugged" and gives the Ophion infinite qr. That would mean that even if phase shift and win myself 3 seconds, it will still end me when i land.

[@AriAzHandle]

You'd me at Phoenix! 🖖 .. both adrian n manni used to be hard ass kissers, is only recently manni finally started speaking the truth while Adrian's pushed his head further in. Good on ya mate!

[@matthewkimura4143]

I like that you are saying the truth

[@DenisFox-]

Thank you for seeing my points. I do seem aggressive in the comments towards people who didn't even watch the video and tried to understand it. I love Adrian channel, he is a nice guy, but the lies have to stop. The basics he is talking about is basic game knowledge everyone should know in Champion league. He helps begginers who just installed the game, but it is not hard to learn how the game works if you ask me.

[@eggroll1548]

whats funny is hes horrible at making bots. his pilot skills are eh, his weapons dont make sense much, and his modules/drones are always trash

[@nelsonvalladares5149]

I totally enjoyed watching this video, i agree with you totally Denis!

[@DenisFox-]

Hope you understood it too because i did a lot of grammar errors 😂

[@nelsonvalladares5149]

@@DenisFox- No you did not bro!, Your grammar is amazing.

[@evobsm2328]

Got back into the game after 5 years. Spent 15$..... let me tell you. I was losing games left right and center with my old a$$ fenrir, bulgasari and one of those purple shieled bots (i honestly dont care tbh) and 15 griffins, rhinos etc but they are scrap bassically. After i spend 15$ (for fun and to see if its still as bad if not worse then bedore) man... i won every game 😂.... untill 15 games later when i started running into more op bots ofcourse. Its pay to win AF. ""Skill"" was something of the past and inovation of how to use bots were at an all time high. More people playing, less cheaters, less bots (as in ai) the good old maps without the shizz retexturing. Idk why manni and adrian tell us you can win games with "skill" if someone can just stand still infront of you while you scratch their paint. Onlty for them to fire once and obliterate you? Yes a lot of skill indeed.

[@TQKObamos]

14:22 i was watching a manni video and i didnt know it was you, the comment was there before you blew up. i think it was on a NukeaRook vid

[@AdrianBond]

Adrian Ching definitely seems biased to me, and hardly ever rightfully criticizes Pissonic's extreme Pay-To-Win curve as it's become now. It's gotten so bad now that it's basically useless to invest in anything at all, because whatever it is, it'll be nerfed in no time, in anywhere from a few weeks to a few months. Pissonic only care about profit now, and couldn't care less about fair and balanced gameplay. And as should be obvious to all, they couldn't care less about the Free-To-Play customers. FTP people are just fodder.

[@DenisFox-]

Agreed with every single word 💯

[@theprofessionalidiot1256]

I mean yeah you can outplay ochos but the difference is outplaying an ocho gets you like 20 percent of their hp gone while you lose an entire hanger Also i can definitely say as someone who bought the ao jun offer for the punchers, ao jun is absolutely trash in cl. I had one good game and it was carried by the fact i was using decays. Ability did nothing but help me run away from ochos. And god forbid i run against qr ophions/literally any seeker drone user.

[@DenisFox-]

Puncher Ao Jun is great when pairing those 2 together, Ao Jun becomes a bit stronger. Not saying it is good thought, but that is the best Ao Jun build if you ask me. Ochos with Deft survivor pilot skill won't be killed by non-meta stuff unless multiple players focus them. An player which knows how to build their Ochos will NEVER ever lose in a 1v1

[@VaiL_Judge]

Read every single word 💯

[@matthewkimura4143]

Could next time ad a voiceover like 11labs so that it is easier to understand

[@DenisFox-]

Lol i don't think it would be any easier since im not that good at speaking english. I mean, i do know english but sometimes i pronounce the words wrong. Will think about your comment, thanks for the feedback 😁!

[@matthewkimura4143]

your welcome@@DenisFox-

[@janiwr.m9068]

Actually yes You can use skill if you have a ravana I kill them probably 7 out of 10 times And i don't even have a maxed hangar

[@DenisFox-]

You gotta be facing some weak Ochos, because as i said, if they got Paladins, Phase shift, Deft survivor or Hiruko/ Beak, you're done for. Even if you do not hit them, they'll receive defense points from the Hiruko drone. As i said, i manage to kill Ochos in my Ao Jun sometimes, doesn't mean its a counter. Ravana is a simple robot, nowhere as close to Orochi in terms of skill requirement. Timing the abilities isn't hard at all, and those will run out once. Ochokochis have 750k, if they are focusing on you and you waste all your ability charges then you are done for. Also, you didn't seem to understand the point of the video: Items should be countered by ANY robot, using skillful play, not be "countered" by a specific setup. You seem to comment before watching the video. Sonic weapons are effective against anything, apparently not against aegis shield robots, but most of the Ocho users do run Paladin mothership. What are you gonna do then, shot at their shield and empty your ammo in it? After all, they get mothership charges every 10 seconds since their ability charges the mothership faster than Puncher does. Thanks for the comment but please, watch the video before commenting next time.

[@DenisFox-]

By the way, not everyone is gonna run Ravana or brawlers, some of us run stuff we love, some of us are trying to play the game for fun, we couldnt give two damns about winning, but playing against enemies which gives us no chance to fight back is atrocious. As i've said in the video, please run an Ao Jun, Orochi, Hawk, and other weaker robots in champion league and tell me you can counter the Ocho using all the skill you have :)

[@janiwr.m9068]

@denisfox7339 no bro I'm in champion league And they're meta players Mostly having ochos and ophions And newtons

[@janiwr.m9068]

@@DenisFox- but I'm not saying that skill is like a big thing in the game bc equipment and money is obviously the most important thing

[@DenisFox-]

​@@janiwr.m9068Im in champion league too, i kill Ochokochis sometimes too. Doesn't change anything, yk? No one is gonna run a specific setup to fight the Ochokochis, some of us have different playstyles, and even if you run that, you'll mostly kill weak Ochokochi players because most of the good ones do know when to time their abilities, with their modules, drone skills, and motherships. Champion league does have weaker Ochokochis sometimes. If you manage to kill some guy who uses Ochokochi with the Ravana then congratulations, but if i had an Ocho with all the meta upgrades i would never ever get killed by an Ravana (i won't even run it first of all but you get what i mean)

[@thetechnician08]

How tf did you enter champion league with that mentality bro

[@DenisFox-]

Entered champion league with Ao Jun, Fafnir, Nightingale, Seraph, Hawk and Sirius. Guess my "low" amount of skill helped me win against the meta 🤷‍♂️ Champion league doesnt equal good player. Good player equals someone who isn't relying on meta. Am i calling myself good? No, im not. I am still trying to improve by running hard robots. Compared to the average player who has the "Ooga booga must get the meta" mentality, i do put more effort into trying to win the games i play (but even if i lost, i couldn't care more unless im doing some tasks) I got champion league by playing for fun with the robots i love. This is a video game my friend, not everything has to be competitive. Highest rank doesn't mean highest skills. I do find it harder for lower league players to play since they have to go against disgusting cheaters, Tankers and they face multiple robots, they have diversity, they have to know ways to counterplay more robots, not the exact same ones we always see in the meta. I don't see anything wrong with my mentality. I managed to get champions without using meta, so if i did, ANYONE can. People say that they need meta tor each champion league. They use that excuse, get themselves an meta hangar which carries them to the CL, but guess what? 4 months later, after their entire hangar will be nerfed, they'll drop league, since they relied on meta equipment to win. What are they gonna do? 1. Keep paying and paying and paying just to have the chance to stay in champion league. 2. Quit paying and realize that Pixonic is scamming and robbing its player base.

[@DenisFox-]

Btw just saying, there is a pinned comment in case you're interested.

[@thetechnician08]

@@DenisFox- i mean you have to be competitive, so make excuses and arguments all you want, you really are not understanding what’s happening to you. War robots can be very frustrating i agree, but this is basic stuff, dude. You probably could have fun in expert league where players aren’t as good, aggressive, and equipped. Btw, I read that pinned comment, and point still stands.

[@DenisFox-]

​@@thetechnician08Ur really wrong if you think that everyone in CL plays to be competitive. My hangar is the main proof. I have a MK2 Dagon, which i upgraded to complete a Dagon leaderboard back then, which is sitting in the dust along with 4 Tamers and 2 Deceivers in my fifth hangar. If i wanted to be competitive, i would upgrade that 0 skill setup and ruin people mood by inflicting then with 30 Stacks or rust and dot for 15 seconds. You do NOT have to be competitive, champion league doesn't equal the most skill, as i said. Nothing is happening to me, i am just thinking logically. I am not gonna agree with some big youtuber who lies to his audience by saying skill if all that matters and the game is not pay to win, yet uses meta equipment, only avaible for money 😉

[@DenisFox-]

​@@thetechnician08btw im not gonna drop league, that is bannable, and i rather ban myself from the whole game (delete it) than drop leagues in purpose

[@187um-v1p]

He doesn't like when you call him out on his BS Cause I told him the exact same thing a while back when he was saying it's all skill and he can run a low level hanger in championship league😂😂.

[@DenisFox-]

"I can run lower level hangars in Champion Leagu-" *Proceeds to run 4 Meta robots, 1 meta titan, and 1 non-meta but with meta weapons, never runs mk1 lvl 6 robots to prove his point and keeps spreading misinformation to his audience*

[@juliusagpalza8667]

I only play domination I think this is the fairest mode and yes i buy stuff to strengthen my hangars so i could win too. Pixonic should stop nerfing robots and weapons they already had profit on. I spent a lot of money on this game buying weapons and robots only to be nerfed worthless later.😂

[@DenisFox-]

Ohh yes, you have no idea how less i would care about meta if they would stop nerfing our items to the ground. I do find domination the most fair gamemode too, where map positioning matters, and where teamplay is more important since you cannot capture beacons unless your entire team is pushing.

[@stuart207]

I only play domination as well, I'm retired from squad play for over a year, it's pointless. They literally ruined the best part of the game by making it so elitist. Yes it's one of the best games I've played, fast, intense. All of that, but the negatives far out way the positives now. They do not deserve my loyalty, time or my cash, if they change? I'll be running back with my arms open, but I'm not holding my breath.

[@limitraven7173]

Well you do have a good point don t know if atacking another KZbinr is cool tho but afther all you need meta to be able to fight the meta skill may work sometimes but when you have 3 ochos in u re base skill goes out the window and they spawn newtons ophions andd all that stuff it s end game. I have a meta hangar myself cause otherway you just cannot play but try to keep diversity only double robot in my hangar is dagon 1 ocho 1 linx and 1 ophion plus newton seems stupid even for me who I have em and would agree to just delete all my investment until now just so the game returns to the time when we played griffins lancelots leos natashas and so on that was way more fun than what is now

[@DenisFox-]

I am not attacking him. I said multiple times that i respect him,i am an active viewer of his, i love his content, but im not gonna sit there and agree with something absolutely ridiculous. This video is not supposed to be a hateful one, it is just that he keeps lying to his audience that "people need to focus on the basics" and "just because you have a full ocho hangar that doesnt mean you're gonna win". Legend league players win rate shows it all, and all of them run the same meta setups if you check. I do agree that skill exists, as i mentioned in the end of the video, but only when everyone has the same equipment. Even the most skilled players from the world won't win against the atrocious meta we have unless they run the same items

[@DenisFox-]

The basics he is talking about is basic game knowledge everyone should know, and if the game had all the robots balanced betwen each other then no weak players would reach champion league since no broken equipment would be able to carry them.

[@limitraven7173]

Yes I agree with you here but we both know pigsonic won t stop doing this. That is a shame they destroyed the game so bad

[@dennypg3d105]

I hope Adrian see this and all those Reddit mods they’re all idiots. I challenge all of them to 1v1 me. They can’t use any meta gear and I have a mk3 ocho. I see all this talk about how ochos are easy to counter. Let’s see if you can do iy

[@DenisFox-]

Ur gonna stomp them if they use no meta, but i really don't know about the 1v1. I imagine a scenario where a sonic Ravana 1v1's a Ochokochi, who has 0% mothership charge. The Ocho would push the Ravana, make it waste its abilities, but once the Ocho ability is over, it will require a beak, Hiruko or a phase shift to win time to receive its new ability. Ochokochis survive a lot because of Paladins. Hope you get my point. Not saying that Ravana with Havocs would win, but it would be challenging to face that if you got no mothership bar.

[@dennypg3d105]

@@DenisFox- trust me ochos played smart like a ravana are unkillable. I can just corner shoot and bait his abilities. I’m confident I’ll destroy any of those Reddit mods since most of them run ocho ophion and mute they’re so used to killing everything no skill needed

[@DenisFox-]

@@dennypg3d105 agreed 100%

[@PHOENIX.39]

I actually stopped watching his videos for no reason just got bored watching his content.

[@DenisFox-]

I don't find his content bad, actually it is really good. I do watch his video till i hear stuff like "You gotta focus on the basics, paying doesn't mean you're gonna win". I am like " Oh please" and then i stop his videos. I just don't wanna listen to nonsense. Like i am assuming he is afraid to spit out some words that may ruin his reputation, but every single youtuber speaks about how unbalanced the game is, yet he still says it is not pay to win. I do wish youtubers would upload more about old robots with old weapons, but it is what it is

[@terra2805]

You've got it a bit wrong about dying trying to defend beacons. It's about risk management. Pushing when the numbers are in your favour, not just charging in alone. Sadly this depends a lot on the know how of your team mates. You make many mistakes that are easy to fix. Like at the start, why did you immediately take off in your Seraph? There was no need to. You need to think defensively and know when to use your ability offensively. While I understand some of the points you make and I agree that Adrian does not speak out enough with regard to the state of the game, I think you're being a little harsh. All any KZbinr does is give advice, you don't have to take it. Much of the advice he gives is actually correct in terms of gameplay and how best to defend beacons etc. No one is telling you to do anything. If you keep dying so quickly and can't defend beacons maybe you do need a tank or two. Is that such a bad thing to advise? If you're looking to blame anyone for the current state of the game it should be Pixonic directly as they are solely responsible. No KZbinr is to blame for Ochos running rampant. You sound upset with all that sarcasm. Lol. Bro, I've been playing since 2014 and I have a full meta hanger, everything is maxed out. Ocho, Frozen Dagon, Curie and two ophions, all with maxed Seeker and Kestrel drones and it happens to me too!!! Sometimes my spawn gets rushed and we get wiped out. Thw current matchmaking system is broken along with many other aspects of the game but it's only Pixonic that's to blame. I disagree with many of the things Adrian Chong says but a lot of it is in fact correct and like I said, nobody has to take his advice do they?

[@DenisFox-]

The way i played isn't the way i usually play. I played that game trying to use Adrian tips and doing anything i can to defend beacons. Using your ability to become faster isn't a problem, i am cautious enough to not take any damage till my ability comes back. I use my ability both defensively and offensively, sometimes i use it to reposition from point A to point B when i need to. Using your ability is in fact a bad thing if you're gonna push in the middle of the map since you're gonna be very vulnerable. It would be real funny if you thought that im using Seraph and Hawk to capture beacons and fly towards people heads 😅. Adrian says that beacons should be defended no matter what, "if they take your beacon then you lose". He would get his robots killed just by defending one single beacon, and once again, i tried to use his " tips" in this video against 2 unkillable Ochokochis. I don't need a tank or two. My playstyle is not suited for tanks, my playstyle is suited for glass cannon robots. Every single player should use what they like, not what Adrian is shoving down their throat. I do not blame anyone for the current state of the game, this video was not to complain about the meta but rather let people know about Adrian lies. No youtuber is to blame, but Adrian is the only one who tells people that they can counter the meta with tactic and skill just to make people shut up and stop complaining about the dumb meta. Thanks for your opinion!! 😄

[@cosmicraider4505]

Bro can you start an official campaign to boycott WR ? And can you leave a copy of your comment? I want to comment the same things to ac

[@DenisFox-]

I really don't think i should stary a boycott campaign. All we have to do is promote off-meta gameplay and tell people to stop wasting their money on temporary equipment. I do wish Pixonic would fix their damn game...

[@Sleepzyhead]

Man quit crying about the game being pay to win. If you hate it so much just quit. I’ve been playing since 2017 as a very cheap to play player and I perform very well and I even have a completely free account that also performs well. Sure there are games where it is impossible to win, but that is usually after a long win streak or my win percentage is high. The game isn’t in the best state, but just accept it or leave.

[@DenisFox-]

1. You liked your own comment 5 minutes after you wrote it 2. This video IS NOT A RANTING VIDEO 😂😂. I swear im laughing my a** off when people do not read the pinned comment or even watch the entire video and they comment. This video was made to show that the game is pay to win and Adrian is lying to his audience by saying that skill, tactics and beacons is all that matter. "Sure there are games where it is impossible to win". The video idea flew right over your head. 3. Have a nice day 😉

[@Sleepzyhead]

@@DenisFox-Bro caught me liking my own comment 🫣lol Anyways though I do agree with a lot of the points you have, but I’m just saying it is still possible to play, enjoy, and perform well in the game without spending. It is a lot more difficult and you probably won’t make it to champions league or perform well if you do, but I really don’t see why people care so much about getting to the league in the first place. I play the game to have fun, and I can do that where I am with what I have. As far as Adrian defending pixonic, I believe he recognizes the issues, but in all honesty why would he just rage about the state of the game when he is trying to help players progress. His whole point is trying to help people do better, so he gives them tactics that can help them, such as holding down beacons or focusing on brawlers. He is just doing what he can.

[@Sleepzyhead]

@@DenisFox-also have a nice day as well 👍

[@dennypg3d105]

how much have you spent also your free account does not perform well lol only against scrubs

[@DenisFox-]

Facts. Fully maxed meta players will always demolish non-meta f2p players

[@mc_kaTsU]

You're just Jealous from my skills.LOL. I know what you mean and even him know that this game gonna die if its stay in this stupid money milking situation, i hope they get rid of p2w or atleast don't make it that much affective.😢 .RIP wR

[@DenisFox-]

We all love the game. Sadly War Robots will forever stay pay to win, unless the WHOLE community decides to stop buying their products, but it impossible for that to happen sadly.

[@mc_kaTsU]

@@DenisFox- WR community is the worst

[@DenisFox-]

Saw worse communities tbh. The people who support Pixonic bs are the worst in my opinion

[@kingraytbh]

Adrian’s just there for the ride he doesn’t care about war robots like the others do but he was a maxed out player before which doesn’t help he is the same people pixonic a targets with these metas in the first place lmao I can’t lie everything he says kinda wish washy and dumb in my ophion he has been caught up to the meta he’s just not entertaining anymore all the other ytbers have similar maxed equipment like him while they have more emotions and everything and skill Adrian’s been left in the dust with old strats and stuff

[@DenisFox-]

I do know that the reason everyone runs those is because they truly got no choice. In the previous meta, such as the Khepri meta, you could run other robots. This new meta literally forces you into switching all your setups and robots. I just hate he isn't realistic and says the game is skill based. Like, he doesn't have to rant, he doesnt have to call Pixonic out, all which he has to do is stop with the "Focus on the basics" bs. In champion league, people should have a brain and know common game knowledge. I do respect him and his content, but people still think i am the bad guy for bringing this video. Adrian has no idea how much people he would love his channel just by being realistic. What he does is make people enjoy his content less and less. Back in the days he was the youtuber i watched the most, among with Manni and Phoenix. Recently, my favorite one was Aygir because i loved the way he always ran non-meta stuff, or stuff which looks good. Sadly, i seem like i became detached to Aygir content also since he does post only meta and ultimate weapons mostly. AD Gaming, Danny and Predator among with some other youtubers do post about old robots and that is to be admired. Adrian can run whatever he pleases, whatever he likes, i couldn't care more, but if he runs full meta and says the game is skill based? Nu-uh, thats not good.

[@vanetti8771]

gg

[@jaggersalapayne9353]

What is ur problem bro? Can't u just create a video pointing out the flaws of the WR game without hitting on another content creator? Chill out, no matter what and how u justify this BS it leaves a bad taste in the mouth...besides, it is just a game... negative vibes begets negative results.

[@DenisFox-]

My problem is that Adrian lies. Did you read my pinned conment? I love Adrian Chong channel, the content is good, this guy teached me the basics back then in 2016, but the stuff he says in order to give the players hopes of beating meta with old items is absolute bullcrap. I am letting people know about his lies, i am not hating Adrian. If he ever sees this video, he may take it into consideration: You have no idea how much people he would attract to his channel if he would stop with the lies and be real about the unhealthy state of the game. What he says is making people leave his channel slowly. Listen bro, right now i am just repeating the stuff i said in the video and in the pinned comment. I do not like repeating it but here i am. You don't have to agree with me, but neither just say i am wrong for trying to open people eyes, and not even say something about the video. I feel like this comment was made just because i called Adrian out.

[@rwr1dd1ck63]

You can disagree with these youtubers about the way the game is, but dont be angry about it. Just play the game and enjoy yourself

[@DenisFox-]

I am not angry about it. I am angry about the fact that Adrian spreads misinformation and false bs to the community..

[@rwr1dd1ck63]

@denisfox7339 I understand, don't be angry at him it's okay to disagree with what he talks about, but getting angry about it does you no good

[@DenisFox-]

I am trying to open people eyes, and everything which is said in the video is just logical thinking. 1. No one is the same as Adrian, no one has the same playstyle as him and plays Beacon Rush 2. No one is gonna run a specific boring robot just because they wanna counter another robot. "Counter" is a big word because if a smart player is given an Ocho, he will build it in a way that the enemy won't stand a chance, not even with sonic weapons. 3. Some of us run what we like. I don't give a damn about a win in a virtual game, and this video wasn't a whining video, because i didn't make it because of the p2w game we have, i made it because of Adrian. Adrian playstyle is outdated, he would kill his entire robot just to defend some beacon for a second, and i would do that to ONLY IF it was the end of the game and i wanted to drain the enemy bar. 4. I am not angry at all. He is defended by begginer players who worship him as a god and think he is right just because he gives the most basic tips known to war Robots players. Like, at this point, everyone knows how decent Ravana, Demeter, Typhon, and some of the other workshop are. Everyone knows they have to know how long their enemy cooldowns are, how strong their setups are, that is just BASIC game knowledge. I bet if this was an fps shooter, he would give tips such as "Guys you see this button? Use it to aim down sights."

[@zafred6424]

Did you even watch the video?

[@DenisFox-]

​@@zafred6424well, it is pretty long so most people ain't gonna watch it fully, but for some reason, when i re-watch the video myself, those 19 minutes feel to pass quick 😂. I do wish people would watch before commenting...

[@kesset7940]

Bro forgot about his damn baby account he never evens bothers to mention it

[@DenisFox-]

Who forgets to mention it? If you're talking about me, then you didn't watch the video, because i did bring up and talked about it. 🤦‍♂️

[@kesset7940]

My bad but the baby account PROOFS that f2ps can be good

[@kesset7940]

And also it's a Russian company you should expect nothing less Edit: I do agree with you in alot of the stuff but just don't play this p2w game play some mech arena you should def expect that type of thing from a Russian type company I'm in champion league with all my robots lvl 9 and weapons lvl 10 (I'm using Fenrir Ravana Skyros typhoon khepri and lucha) and kill mk3 ochos and opinions rooks and Newton without that much of a problem

[@DenisFox-]

@@kesset7940 you don't get the point of the video. Not everyone uses the same boring Fenrir, Ravana, Demeter, Typhon and Skyros. Some of us run items we love, and if the game was skill based then any item should counter the meta if played skillfully. Still, those robots get absolutely screwed by Ocho, Curie, Dagon and Ophion, along with Tonans Newton and Discordia Eiffel. What league r u in? What robots do u run? Edit: I literally almost guessed ur entire hangar. I wrote this reply to the first reply of yours. I manage to kill all those robots easily when being in a Fafnir, now i imagine how easy it would be to kill them in an Ocho. Still, the game is a pay to win game. You face meta enemies, you lose if they spawnraid you.

[@kesset7940]

​@@DenisFox-champion (got it today) and I told you

[@Butterfingers49]

It's just 20 minutes of someone whining so much can't even do a voice over for the video. If your just a casual player playing what you enjoy then why do you care about wining and staying in high leagues? You can't have and eat you cake at the same time lol

[@DenisFox-]

It is not whining, and if you think so, you really cannot think logically 😑 Like, i bet you didn't even watch the video before commenting this, but dw u can defend Adrian i aint mad, you most probably ain't a veteran so you're clueless about what he is doing

[@Butterfingers49]

@denisfox7339 I've been playing for 5-6 years and I've ran a clan as well lol so I definitely aren't "clueless". Only watch the first few minutes because watching someone diss on someone else in order to try get some more attention for the channel doesn't interest me. If you want to run whatever and have fun go down to lower leagues or make a alt, don't expect to be able to stay in high leagues if your hanger isn't setup right, it's leveled and your good with it. Higher rank clans will also effect your matchmaking as again if your in a high rank clan your getting higher level opponents and they will be a lot more more competitive. And your always going to get rough games but they average out in my experience even when I'm getting 1-3 people in a match dropping out.

[@DenisFox-]

@@Butterfingers49 you think i give a shit about subscribers or views buddy 😂? Im uploading for fun, you comment stuff yet you know nothing about this channel. You simply commented this because i made a video against Adrian and his lies, and you are mad because i called him out. Anyone who says War Robots is not pay to win and its skill based is always running no skill robots in their hangar, and they think they're skilled for getting kills with meta. You ARE clueless because you don't even realize how many players quited because of the pay to win. You don't even realize we have two pay to win currencies, which are given to us for free but in extremly low amounts, but they are important in order to make a robot work. Ur telling me to tank down in lower leagues? What a smart and good tip, that's bannable in case you don't know, and i am in Champion league because i deserve to be there. I reached it with Ao Jun, Fafnir, Nightingale, Hawk, Seraph and Sirius against the atrocious meta. Should i lose thropies on purpose to be matched with weaker players? Thats a coward move. I want you to play my hangar against those Ochos and see how you do. You wanna know how i even reached Champion league in the first place? By playing for fun, by running what i like. People are not to blame to quit games against Ochos and Tonans Newtons. I do not blame my teammates if they do so, i blame the stupid balancing of this game, the marketing team and the addicted whales who spent over 800$ a month for broken equipment which gives them the false feeling of being good at the game.

[@nore8141]

Agreed

[@DenisFox-]

Agreed with him? He didn't even understood the point of this video lol. He didn't even read the pinned comment or even watched the video. This is not because i lost, i couldn't give two damns about winning. I posted this because Adrian keeps lying about the fact that the game is not pay to win and skill and tactic is all that matter 😑

[@Patriot-WR]

A while ago I got 11 mill damage with 1 year old lvl 10 robots in champion league, and I counter Ochos fine. Bro quit complaining

[@DenisFox-]

It is not complaining. How are people this blind? Are you guys even reading what i write, or you just come here commenting without even reading what i write? I get 11 Million damage or more sometimes too. "You counter Ochos just fine" you counter some noobs who have no idea how to build their robots. If some smart player is given an Ocho , there is no way in heck he'll build an weak one and will lose to level 10 robots unless he is trash at the game.

[@Patriot-WR]

@@DenisFox- getting 11 mill damage with your hanger would not be hard

[@Patriot-WR]

You obviously suck at the game even with your highly leveled up bots, yes the game takes a lot of skill. Yes, I’m sure he’s better then you (so is my pet rat) you only made this vid for clickbate, find something productive to post about

[@Patriot-WR]

Also his babyaccount is at master 2 that’s really good for lvl 6 bots.

[@DenisFox-]

​@@Patriot-WRof course you believe his baby account. You 100% didn't watch the entire video, did you 😂 Bro at this point, people like you would believe that hitting champion league with lvl 1 bots is possible. Let me get some meta squadmates to carry me to Champion league, and then tell everyone misinformation. Think LOGICALLY: Level 6 robots get ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED TO PIECES by anything. One single mothership is gonna send your robot to the scrapyard. Adrian posts a few baby account videos where he performs well, but he doesn't livestream his baby account, neither uses lvl 6 robots on his main account (Lol, he even runs meta in his livestreams) No offense but you're so blind to the truth. Read my pinned comment if you wanna associate me with a typical hater btw. What i say is said for a reason

[@TheDaddybats]

I have followed some of Adrian’s advice and found some success but there are factors involved that may be variables that have nothing to do with skill or tactics. Time of day - I’m UK based, after 5pm (GMT) it appears more let’s say high calibre players are online. There is a shift towards more champ league players with op meta hangars. Algorithm of team balancing - Adrian mentioned this himself on a baby account video showing his win ratio in the 60% mark that it would drop for a while then go up again. From personal experience I notice patterns where I can get top 3 for 4/5 matches then totally tank for the next 4/5. I have played matches were there has been (unbelievably) no Ocho’s and had a great game, next match a squad of Ocho’s and get steamrolled. I agree with your vid and I respect Adrian as a tactician and bot builder but there are also times when I find him a self righteous, patronising and arrogant. I commented on one of his vids that Aygir had good success with a particular bot he replied but how many games did he have to play to get that footage? No consideration of a) ok Aygir made a smart build b) yeah he’s a skilled player c) cool what weapons/pilots/drone was he using? And as you and other people have pointed out where is his livestream of the baby account? I could play an account like that and maybe have one match in 15 where I get top 3 on the leaderboard. I have an average low mk2 hanger my most meta bots are Dagon and Ophion. I’ve been bouncing in and out of champ league and find I have to change the composition of my hangar (Yes that’s very Adrian) to keep afloat. At present just existing consistently at the lowest end of Champ league but I question if I had one Ocho, Curie or even a single pascal drone would it make a difference? Probably yes, that would not involve a skill base or strategy but having the equipment that is competitive at this level. This example of meta equipment happened way back when the Incinerator was introduced, I acquired one when prizes where not a scam, strapped it on my Leo and progressed very quickly through 3 leagues before I hit the wall of players with the times best meta. Skill - yes valid early on, hangar composition same. Further up the line depending on if you want to chase a place up in champ league meta equipment takes precedence over skill. Same with hitting master league onwards and just wanting to enjoy the game with the equipment you have gained by that point if you are f2p, skill goes out the window along with fun, when your getting steamrolled in 2 mins. A player that spends nothing on this game is going to have a different experience from players who spends 100s possibly more. I have done the stuff, used the tanks cut range etc it works little and often. I don’t think it fair saying this skill stuff when loading a mk3 Ravana with a maxed out ltd edition Havocs and a maxed Pascal and going look how well I did. Even on the budget account yeah 2/3 kills with a tank then it gets stomped. Looking at the kill ratio it’s pretty low with this tank build method, it may work in situ but more often than not I see the leave game button before the match ends and if it’s a victory it’s more to do with the remaining players who have not burned through their entire hanger in 3 minutes. Providing I am not one of the remaining 2 players facing 6 because everyone my team has burnt out their hangars (possibly using skill and tanks) or left the game. Perhaps if we all look at our gameplay, use what works and do not hide out at our home beacons (maybe go capture some?) we could have some more luck. Without being preached at by the Gospel of Adrian.

[@DenisFox-]

Skill exists when running robots which require tactics, like the Orochi, Ao Jun, Fafnir, etc. With the Orochi, everything matters: Map positioning, beacon capturing, ability charge managment, everything. Im just going to throw a random guess, but did you comment about Fafnir? Adrian says the robot is bad and he runs Traditionalist on it. I really appreciate this long and detailed comment!!

[@knight87665]

Adrian "the Shill" Chong has been singing this same song for so long. There is no WINNING this game, ever. ONLY WAY TO WIN IS TO STOP SPENDING ANY MONEY. There's Only playing and either paying thru the nose or losing 60% of the time... unless you're a content creator with 5 billion gold, silver, and every other type of money in the game so every item is always MK3 as soon as acquired... instead of the MONTH IT TAKES TO LEVEL UP ANYTHING. Adrian and the others MAKE MORE MONEY WITH PIXONIC since more watch those videos - so it's in his best interest to LIE TO YOU AT EVERY CHANCE AND SHILL PIX so he makes more money. Same is true for all the content providers... I'd much rather see PREDATOR playing Battle of Titans than the same BS meta bots doing the same bs meta crap to unsuspecting test server and live server players. At least he has the balls to show himself losing to the stupid meta. MANNI still focuses on meta as does AD and the rest. Please don't take this down - I spoke with Adrian directly - all he does is make excuses for his need to post the same PIX videos over and over and blame everyone else for being "mean". Why don't you viewers want to watch your other junk AC? Because your videos are lame now. Same thing over and over and over again with that droning voice and little laugh... never giving one thought to us players getting ramrodded every day by meta Champs 2 leagues above us. I still play the game but it is now 2 years of not paying for anything... and nothing has changed... same win%, same Champion level - even when I arm a Boa, Golem, Leo, Natasha and GI Patton with a Kid Titan. It never matters - so PLAY FOR FUN ONLY - unless you're the whale they need to survive.

[@DenisFox-]

Yeah, it is easier to play the game when you have any item you want. Im not a player which cares about win trust me, you can tell by what i am running in my hangar. I can have fun even when i lose but DAMN the lies Adrian keeps feeding the community in order to shut up and stop complaining about the meta is way too much.