War Thunder Sim Mouse and Keyboard Guide: Mastering Flight, Safety, and Custom Missions!

[@TheAnnoyingF2P]

Another important thing to learn is the speed limit of your aircraft. That is, stall speed and maximum structural speeds for the airframe, flaps, and gear. Every plane is different, and you can easily flatspin if you aren't careful. You can theoretically recover from a spin and this is a good thing to practice on your own. However, I have had many experiences where I couldn't recover, even if doing everything correctly, so it's best to avoid situations like this as much as possible. Depending on your loadout, your takeoff run and landing will also be affected.

[@CmdrTyrael]

100% true. Each airframe is different to and it's important to know what they are capable of. I plan on making a few videos that solve the issues that novice pilots will encounter. Ie. Flat spins, stalls, emergency landing, engine outs, multi engine management etc. 🫡

[@yungyork5425]

@TheAnnoyingF2P Tried to take my Mig-23 into sim and flatspinned about 3 minutes into flight, couldn't recover. I approve this message XD

[@derpderpderpderpderpderp]

ty for the vid because alot of times i only play ground sim and never try air sim because of the complex controls and the keybindings aswell

[@CmdrTyrael]

Glad I could help mate o7

[@patriktoth6258]

First. Found my perfect settings for relative controls Second. Bombing first in sim and get missile kills with the help of SAS mode Third. Making a custom game in sim mode with a WW2 fighter and practice. Result. 2 dogfight had won in the Su22UM3K (Germany) against an F4E and F8U-2. Used cannons both were short burst kills.

[@CmdrTyrael]

Well done. That's a great effort. 🫡

[@galacticthreat3164]

Thanks commander. I think I probably spurred this on since for your whole stream I was still figuring out the controls, 😂

[@CmdrTyrael]

Haha you're question and a few others inspired me to do this 🫡

[@ThrowAway-ji1cf]

@@CmdrTyrael you're question

[@Zokobazooka]

how do you even put that mouse icon in the pitch axis one 7:33

[@TheAnnoyingF2P]

Very comprehensive. I had to learn very slowly and for much of the time I played sim, I only played strategic bombers because I just couldn't do anything else with the mouse. Once I got a stick, I can do just about everything... but dogfight. It's very difficult for me to get precise enough aim with the guns without over or under-correcting... I've been trying to use more advanced tech to aid with my poor acquisition and aiming skills, but there aren't a lot of great guides on it for sim. Personally, I'd like to see a radar and missile guide.

[@CmdrTyrael]

Hsituational awareness is the skill I'm really working atm. Tracking the target manually and flying are quite difficult. I can see a head tracking device being I valuable

[@tangent.arc38618]

@@CmdrTyrael Try relative control. This setup is fantastic for automated air to ground (bombers and attackers) and even simple combat (Drone intercepts in sim like in the beginning) but its not very good for air to air engagements with players

[@maxmoanz6561]

You're the goat

[@tjohns11]

Very nice man I’ve been blessed and my flight stick is arriving today!

[@TheAnnoyingF2P]

I highly recommend setting up the primary/secondary weapon selection bindings to free up dedicated weapon buttons. Since flight sticks usually have far fewer buttons than a keyboard, having a dedicated button for every weapon on your plane becomes impractical once you advance to radar and missile tech.

[@CmdrTyrael]

Nice!!

[@JaxxElectro]

Good guide for new player in Air SB. I use square mouse joystick, because I've heard from some SB pilots that it's better (but I'm not sure why 😅). And when you began to fly, I saw that when you put the mouse up, plane elevates, but my Y axis is inverted, so that mouse-joystick behave itself as real control stick: when you put the mouse down, plane elevates, as when you pull control stick on yourself, I think it's more intuitive

[@CmdrTyrael]

Thanks for your comment mate. This initial video Is for those trying to fly for the first time. We set up the virtual mousestick this way to emulate AB and RB mouse look control method. Once the pilots feel comfortable in the air, I would then recommend switching the Y axis to true Flickstick orientation. Minimising the complication initially makes flying more enjoyable and doesn't overwhelm the senses. Thanks for watching

[@diprosla592]

​@@CmdrTyrael i find that flying on Relative control with mostly using keyboard WSADQE, IS BETTER bcs it gives you complete control over the plane unlike the Mouse joystick wich doesnt eve let you to LOOP over or it doesnt let you roll

[@tangent.arc38618]

@@diprosla592Mouse joystick looks better for heavier planes

[@rainzhao2000]

I use standard mouse joystick mode which gives the square and inverted pitch, it mimics actual joystick controls by not controlling rudder.

[@rainzhao2000]

​@diprosla592 simplified joystick mode has that limitation, however standard mouse joystick is unrestricted and mimics actual joystick inputs.

[@Battttt]

tried sim. Cant pitch using mouse aim, for some reason i cannot bind the mouse axis on my pitch. Please help.

[@nani_473]

You have to enable in the simulator tab mouse joystick

[@sicksixgamer2694]

Great video! Thank you.

[@CmdrTyrael]

My pleasure 🫡

[@Timothyyyy.photog]

nice vid bro

[@darkfangulas]

4:04 how do you make it highlight the planes internal componets in the hanger when you mouse hover over it?

[@CmdrTyrael]

@darkfangulas there is a tab to switch to X ray mode and Protection analysis on the left side.

[@fishticksk3006]

how do I set the pitch axis on the mouse

[@Virtual_Combat]

Nice instructive video. I have one question. Is it still possible to bind and use the "zoom out" to further to increase FOV in first person like it used to? Also I would suggest to use zero deadzone for more "fine" control of the aircraft.

[@CmdrTyrael]

I am not to sure about zoom out. Bit you can zoom in 2 ways. With traditional "Z" key. Or there is head move. Head move still works, I omitted this from the guide for simplicity but you can also control the position of the pilots head. Forward back, sides, and up down

[@Virtual_Combat]

Yes, I know both methods, but there is a way instead of an instant zoom with Z to use increments and bind 2 keys (one for zoom in and one for zoom out), wich used to let you, while zooming out go a wee bit below default value (hence increase FOV). Last time I played, it didnt work anymore wich made me quit the game sadly since I was mainly trying to use MnK controls... @@CmdrTyrael

[@CmdrTyrael]

Yeah I remember having more control of FoV but sadly I haven't been able to find that. You're right, visibility is the biggest factor to success and a hurdle I'm yet to overcome personally. With out head track

[@Virtual_Combat]

I can also recommend you to look at a video about MnK controls from BlackMaze. I found a lot of success (it is incomparable with the default settings) customizing his controls and made my MnK setup competitive even against flightsticks/controllers (also i do not use head track/VR). He also explains the FOV trick with the zoom, or the ability to look around while flying without using C (wich was gamechanging for me). @@CmdrTyrael

[@argonautiyi4873]

@@Virtual_Combat i have this on my mousewheel, Somewhere in settings there's an option to use zoom axis instead of throttle on the mouse wheel This allows you to zoom out and have more FOV

[@user-dk5kf]

I hope that Bob is OK and recovered..

[@CmdrTyrael]

@@user-dk5kf he is doing well!! 🫡

[@maxoliverbuchholz3530]

how do i assign the mouse for the pitch axis?

[@CmdrTyrael]

Set the control mode to "Mouse Joystick" under the full real controls tab

[@CmdrTyrael]

Then Invert the "Y-Axis (Aircraft)" to your desired setting. Make sure to save the preset so you can easily revert if you make a mistake setting up

[@NebelKothbauer]

​@CmdrTyrael didn't work is this just old did they change how you do it?

[@YamatoPower9000]

I started with my premium British hellcat many years ago. Problem always was visibility especially during turns it was near impossible to follow the target visual and have perception of your craft's position relative to it. Now I'm on dual sense and a lot of systems on keyboard... It's 👌.

[@CmdrTyrael]

Actually having to visual the 3d space mentally and track it all is the hardest part. But it's what sets the modes apart. Even a superior aircraft can be downed of the pilot makes 1 mistake. That's beautiful in my eyes 🤣

[@nyccoyax3831]

red alert music fits so well :D

[@TygoMulders]

I cant steer left or right i know i have to change roll axis but what do i do please help??

[@69kenny420]

teach us how to use radars plz

[@grillo_419]

Hello! I noticed you didn't suggest any american trainer aircraft, i was curious since i'm grinding its research tree at the moment. But if i were to bet on it, i would say you'd suggest the P-38 for props and the B-57 for early jets.

[@CmdrTyrael]

Absolutely. P-38 handles well but you need to be careful not to throw the stick too much. For jets, the B-57 and the F3D are excellent and stable platforms (F3D was used for the carrier scenario at the end of the video)

[@grillo_419]

@@CmdrTyrael amazing! Thank you for the suggestion, can't wait to fly a bit tomorrow when i have time, have a great day!

[@tahzib1451]

what nation do you recommend for starting? i tried to start japan way back in the day when WT was just planes, but this game has evolved into something else completely now...

[@CmdrTyrael]

I would stick with your passions first and grow from There. As an Aussie, I love the US AND jaoanese lines, but all of them have something to offer especially in sim. Japan - Turn fighting and naval aircraft USA - energy fighters and excellent CAS GERMANY- High altitude Boom and Zoom and excellent range of soviet and NATO jets. These are just some examples o7

[@howardb.728]

nice work mate! I can't afford a useable (not cheap) HOTAS so I use mouse and keyboard with "relative" control....not ideal but I've learned to use it moderately well. The problem with mouse-joy is the unreliable re-centering. Of course you can set up key-binds for that but .... tedious in the heat of engagement. Also tuning ailerons and rudder in "mouse joy" is tricky.... many departures from controlled flight result in poorly coordinated control inputs... the level of training required with "mouse joy" is significant ... BTW are you an Aussie?

[@CmdrTyrael]

@howardb.728 yeah mate, true blue, Aussie! 🫡 I spent a lot of time just training in the test flight menu setting up engagements. I transitioned to a HOTAS and pedals. FCS Flight pack (cost me around $324) AUD and it's been a completely different world. Thanks for watching.

[@urip_zukoharjo]

I can barely aim in RB, yet I am already daring myself to play SB😅 Got a kill on first match tho hahaha, not a bad start

[@CmdrTyrael]

Well done. The most satisfaction comes from learning something new and succeeding!! Also knowing the basics of sim will make your RB games better 🫡 Thanks for watching o7

[@witblitzz88]

Hello. Can you help get hellis into ec air sim ?

[@CmdrTyrael]

I can certainly suggest it to the team. I would like to see heli modes expanded on.

[@witblitzz88]

@@CmdrTyrael yes we need more life in sim mode and hellis would be good a good change

[@witblitzz88]

@@CmdrTyrael thanks

[@B24Gaming]

can you use this for arcade battles also or no

[@CmdrTyrael]

You sure can. Although it will be a significant handicap compared to other players.

[@AirCrafted992]

Is bf 109 a good trainer

[@CmdrTyrael]

I prefer the HE-112 for a sim trainer. More stable and less engine torque than a bf-109 for takeoff Once you get the hang of general flying in the 112 move up the HE-100. Which I consider to be the German Trainer for Energy Fighting and BnZ.

[@TygoMulders]

Can i use this on every mode?

[@CmdrTyrael]

@TygoMulders yes you can use that control scheme in arcade, RB and customs if you like. But it's a big handicap

[@fallen_kinx179]

Fear the almighty AA in sim Remember to take enough fuel Dont shoot friendly's with missles Trim your plain in test flight and you will be fine

[@JorvikBerserkir]

im absolute dogend with hotas, but this is a horrible way to fly, not comfortable at all for me. guess ill struggle with the hotas

[@CmdrTyrael]

@Jauffre-innit if your flying jets make sure to put on Stability mode when in transit. It makes these aircraft much easier. Also, adjust your sensitivity so that small movements of the stick don't provide too much input. Optimal settings make it much easier. If you have a HOTAS, you're already doing great, mate!!

[@JorvikBerserkir]

@@CmdrTyrael i appreciate that man, ive been trying to get used to the kb&m but im really struggling (maybe im dumb and didnt use stab mode), only reason im not using hotas is because of desk space and the horrific freeview system given by the nipple. i love twiddling nipples, but that just aint doing it for me. im not keen on changing accuracy, i like it to be the exact same across all sections of all games I play, thats a last resort

[@CmdrTyrael]

@Jauffre-innit I get that man. When I use mine it requires tactical desk placement 🤣 I rebound the look controls to my ministick on the throttle. It gives much better range of view and is much easier to control. I just adjusted sensitivity to give a natural range of motion. KB & M is limiting because the instructor tries to level you out and it's harder to do loops and rolls. It shouldn't be like that. No other flight sim I know does this with keyboard controls

[@JorvikBerserkir]

@@CmdrTyrael you are dead right, do you happen to use Thrustmaster T1600000000M? I didnt fiddle with the throttle stick maybe that could be a problem solver for me. i like the bf3 (of my memory of it's) controls, but I played that on xbox.. You have any experience of playing sim with xbone controllers? it would definitely be a lot easier to adjust playstyles in ground sim

[@CmdrTyrael]

@Jauffre-innit yeah mate that's the exact one I have. I played alot of BF3 on ps3 and 4 but never flown a sim with a hand controller

[@jayklink851]

👍👍

[@johnlukecolley5543]

Gimme the radar vid Commander I need to learn