War Within Delves: Are They Any Good?

[@draegin2566]

Hey bud, I have a video idea for you. I always have a problem playing blood DK. I’ve been a fury main for a bit, so it’s hard to go from spammy spam to blood. I’ve noticed I tend to over use runes, then I’ll somehow end up out of runic power. I can’t ever find a video that shows how to find that balance or at least what you’re looking for. Like do you death strike when available or are you waiting for damage to hit first. Then are you waiting for big hits or a series of small ones? I usually do best when I see an example. I appreciate what you do bud.

[@WoWatNight]

We already made a Blood DK guide a bit ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/haSceZlobKdohdE If you follow that rotation, you should be fine.

[@draegin2566]

@@WoWatNight Well I’m a dumbass. Somehow I missed the entire rotation section and subsequent in dungeon example the last time I watched that. My bad lmao

[@Wheelymiloticpokemon]

Personally I love them but I love doing repetitive solo activities so it’s pretty much a match made in heaven for me

[@WoWatNight]

Llarold is onboard, channel manager feels "eh" about them.

[@12fulworld69]

I just really wish CC would be more usable in delves. It seems any medium or larger mob is completely immune. some melee classes have a lot of self healing and can take a hit or two but casters constantly have to kite and have no way of stopping the enemy even though that's part of their toolkit.

[@WoWatNight]

That's a very valid point!

[@deltawolf]

If i buy this wxpansion this will be my primary game mode out of this, m+ and raiding. Is (ret) paladin, (guardian) druid, (frost) dk, mage or (ele) shaman most pleasant to play to be successful and have fun? Bybhaving fun i mean not having to bang my head to the wall due to being weak.

[@WoWatNight]

You're asking us if you will have fun doing something, which is not something we can really answer. Sort of like asking us if you're hungry.

[@durin_the_deathless]

"unhappy, but right, is arguably better than being happy" is the best comment ever!

[@WoWatNight]

😁

[@jessicahampton4581]

Look I just want to be able to get the heroic gear without wanting to throw my laptop out the window..im in beta And all the talk among the streaming community has got me worried because most of that community are not casual players they play the game for a career and will never understand the normal casuals who have jobs and families and a life.. who cannot commit to a raid schedule or have a non 9-5 job..and want to completely stay away from the uber toxic mythic plus..playerbase .. .. understand this is fir us casual we dont have the time nor the schedule to play wow like a job so please dont ruin this for us .

[@WoWatNight]

You'll still be able to do casual content.

[@lolzinjo12]

And all the talk among the streaming community thats where your problem is

[@pilotmorgan8669]

Thanks dude

[@WoWatNight]

You're welcome.

[@xxseanathanxx2009]

well if it makes you feel better man - I just spetn 3-4 hours testing delves and never crashed a single time or got a single lua error. I wonder what caused so many issues with you or if you played prior to a patch?

[@WoWatNight]

Probably prior to the patch they just rolled out.

[@GamingRat27]

So as it stands, are delves worth it as a solo player who has zero interest in doing group content, i like the idea of being able to clear stuff on my own and get good end game gear but all i see are videos pretty much complaining about delves and how bad they are or just comparing them to torghast which was just so very very bad. is war within worth getting just for delves?

[@WoWatNight]

They are supposed to be, and hopefully they will be, but the tuning in testing has made them seem like they will be frustrating. Not unrewarding, just challenging.

[@miriareu]

Delves = Scenarios lol

[@WoWatNight]

Kind of, but with powers?

[@OldManDoom]

It will be Torghast by the end of it. The cracks are already showing, and anything that they waste this many resources on to make the main feature of an expansion always crumble into awful, tedious content that Players get bottlenecked into

[@WoWatNight]

"No Fun Allowed." --Blizzard, probably

[@healee5455]

Typical tanks, always insulting the healers🤣

[@WoWatNight]

Calling him a "healer" is very generous.

[@NoneDareChallengeMe]

This is what I was afraid of. The temptation to Torghastify Delves was too great for blizz. Also as a mage main, I'm just tired of being a second class citizen in wow. I think this is the expac I finally dump my mage. I'll keep it for what mages do best: Farm old expac cosmetics.

[@knxcklvz5448]

second class citizen ? xD Crying while meta in every patch, gg

[@Kiwicrack]

Tier lists are trash but, there's almost always at least one mage spec that's at least A tier for both M+ and Raid. You wanna see a neglected class, check out Shaman, and up until DF, Monk.

[@WoWatNight]

What's your next class then?

[@NoneDareChallengeMe]

@@WoWatNight I will probs use one of my classes that can tank. DH, monk, warr, pally.

[@NeverAware]

Big L video

[@WoWatNight]

You better mean big Llarold

[@NeverAware]

@@WoWatNight more like "dont recommend channel" L

[@noalei]

@@WoWatNight Ya, no offense but a lot of your takes come across as very bad. I wanted to like the channel but it really feels like it chases viewers away.

[@leeheath1444]

Looking forward to this solo content. Taking my brewmaster and prot pally! 😊

[@WoWatNight]

Definitely easier solo right now, but still spicy in some spots

[@sashidozerako262]

its literally just SL torghast...

[@WoWatNight]

But less horrible, maybe

[@22dm22]

well tuning is the last thing u do in a beta, so I wouldnt be too concerned

[@WoWatNight]

You're assuming they will do any

[@22dm22]

@@WoWatNight I really hope they will xD

[@dannysweet3767]

so its like torghast from SL LOL

[@WoWatNight]

But also kind of not

[@kendro1200]

You say they can’t ship with bugs and poor performance, but you didn’t watch the Cata Classic launch that still has bugs identified from beta not resolved.

[@WoWatNight]

Lol, true.

[@00Recoil]

The age-old story continues... They release delves in an alpha test to the Tubers. The Tubers cry. "It's too easy, no challenge, delves are boring." Blizz comes back out in the beta and delves are overtuned to the point that one-shot kills are a regular occurrence. Tubers, straining every nerve, their left eye twitching, "I made it through on Prot pally". Blizzard at release: ???

[@Realradya]

Not sure what the point you're trying to make is. It was originally tuned too easy...they gave that feedback and blizzard went way over the top the other way and somehow you're blaming the youtubers? They are giving appropriate feedback that it's tuned too high. This is how beta tends to go...they'll dial in the tuning.

[@WoWatNight]

There were no tears over here, but Blizz doesn't seem to internally test tuning, so it will be a seesaw until they get it right.