Warfare of Classical Antiquity: Republican Fleet Operation (Roman Navy)

[@themanabroad7800]

I really enjoy these mini documentaries. Thank you for putting the time in to making them!

[@InvictaHistory]

just glad people are enjoying it! I'm actually pretty excited to be covering the Roman navy. You almost never hear about it

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

+THFE Productions you should do an episode about how the navy was perceived, if it was considered less honorable of a position then in the legion and the like.

[@UltimaSigmarAlonso]

+THFE Productions yes Nice work please more pls also the cartage Navy would be nice

[@RonaldHapchwarae]

It was less hounarable and being put in charge of a fleet was a bad thing politically. I only know of one ex-consoul being put in command of the fleet and that was Bibilus, who was awful as consoul.

[@v44n7]

Operations videos I think are the most realistic and humanizing part of history, It really shows what average soldier saw or care about what he was living. Thanks for doing videos like this

[@KomradeCPU]

Damn, and for a moment I though you were gonna sing for us those awesome sailor songs! =D

[@Dantick09]

Maybe we can get the Metatron to do it ;)

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Fantastic work and the models & skins look amazing. I suspect carthaginian fleets would have had far less soldiers onboard their ships, relying on ramming etc to win battles.

[@CthulhuSauce]

Bro, these are awesome! I love anything related to ancient military history, and these videos provide great information and great visual aids with the Rome 2 gameplay. Keep it up man!

[@InvictaHistory]

I'm really glad that I've been able to build up a playlist of 20 videos on antiquity. So far its been kind of a journey with little overall direction but soon I'd like to do an extended series on Roman military tactics

[@larsrons7937]

2:19 This song is a bit similar to the "sea shanties" (working songs) of near modern times. It could be 150 years old. Even today I use an old wood cutters song whenever felling or cutting a tree, and we are two persons at the saw. It's amazing how a song in the right tempo and composition can speed up a specific task for people working together. I would have been surprised if they had not used such songs in ancient times as well.

[@gideonroos1188]

You always produce top tier Machinima documentaries. Well done and keep it up!

[@Grimpy970]

4:24 I love the little 'hops' that the rendered naval crew are doing to stay 'standing' on their deck. Whatever 3d animation software you're using has a basic physics engine built in! Edit: I mean, sheeeit. Even the shields and helmets jiggle a little bit! I look forward to seeing more of your videos as you lot gain expertise with your tools

[@thatsnomoon4221]

That's not 3D animation software, that's Total War: Rome 2...

[@Grimpy970]

@@thatsnomoon4221 pffffff that's amusing

[@jt01212]

Amazing job on these videos. Thank you for the hard work that you put in.

[@Tupinamba77]

Most excellent. Really love your documentaries.

[@Dantick09]

Beautiful video! Can't wait for part 2

[@minergmaingx2000]

Your documentaries make me really want ro play the game again.

[@NikiGalabov]

Once again, awesome video! Can't wait for more. :)

[@norad_clips]

Your narration has vastly improved since I first started watching last summer.

[@norad_clips]

So well done, sir!

[@InvictaHistory]

thanks! I feel like I've definitely improved with each episode

[@ghostinquisitor7743]

Wow so marines and legionnaires are mostly one of the same, as well as Legion armies had more of an anotomony (self management) then navel forces will ever be. Thank you for sharing more light on this matter.

[@StarlitSeafoam]

THANK YOU for mentioning that slaves were RARE not NORMAL in the Roman and Greek navies. Merchant galleys on the other hand might very well have been rowed quite often by slave gangs. Also, galleys had sails for a reason and would have used them to save the rower's energy for battle. You don't want to meet the enemy and not be able to get up to ramming speed because you've exausted your rowers in getting there. Another fabulous source for all things ancient sailing is Lionel Cason's "Ships and Seamanship in the Ancient World"

[@elsasslotharingen7507]

Another one already? Wow. Great video dude!

[@YB31234]

Keep making these, they're amazing!

[@alexxie2600]

These are amazing but when are you going to finish the Evolution of the Roman Legions series? :P

[@joshuaconner4540]

I'm surprised the Romans did have modified wooden and leather armor for naval operations. Granted it's specific but problem solving and engineering solutions are kinda what they were known for, like the alpine sandal spikes developed for fighting in mountains.

[@aewers7]

still loving these historical vids.

[@matte172]

this is the stuff that made your channel great.

[@francescoragghianti6068]

I just love this series, keep it up! :)

[@BenjinWS]

As always, an excellent video.

[@dasgruukmaster1520]

I love watching your documentaries, keep it up. Also, when is ur next evolution of the legion coming up cause I really like those.

[@Nucl3arDude]

This ^^

[@InvictaHistory]

so this keeps coming up... basically that series is a huge task to research, record, and edit. Its the equivalent of climbing Mt Everest. Since I started work full time I feel a bit out of shape so I am training up again with these shorter videos. Eventually I will climb that mountain but it will take a little more time to get ready. The good news is that I have the script basically done for it. The bad news is that its 16 pages long which would make for a 40 minute video. I'm not sure if I need to edit that down or leave it as is. Either way it will be a lot of work

[@Djlawson1000]

Take your time Oakley! Don't strain yourself for our sake, we appreciate anything you can do whenever you can do it.

[@tudorbaloiu9585]

Yeah, take your time, don't rush it. It needs to be perfect! (no pressure, haha). I really love your documentaries and, of course, all your other vids. Again, thank you so much for your videos, you are doing a great job, keep it up!

[@buckley763]

Please keep doing these History videos!!!!!!

[@edlcdmc]

Song: Heia, viri, nostrom reboans, echo sonet heia! Arbiter effusi late maris ore sereno Pacatum stravit pelagus posuitque procellam Edomitque vago sederunt pondere fluctus Heia, viri, nostrom reboans, echo sonet heia! Annisu parili tremat ictibus acta carina Nunc dabit arridens pelago condordia caeli Ventorum motu praegnanti currere velo Heia, viri, nostrom reboans, echo sonet heia! Aequora prora secti delphinis aemula saltu Atque gemat largum, promat seseque lacertis Aone trahens canum deducat et orbita sulcum Heia, viri, nostrom reboans, echo sonet heia! Aequoreos volvens flucts ratis audiat heia! Convulsum remis spumet mare. Nos tamen heia! Vocibus adsiduis reduci sonet heia! Translation: Hey, men, echoing our echo, hey! The arbiter poured out at the wide open mouth of the sea The sea was calm and the storm was calm And the Edomites sat idly by the weight of the waves Hey, men, echoing our echo, hey! The keel trembles at the sound of the blows Now the smiling ocean will give the comforts of heaven To run the veil pregnant with the movement of the winds Hey, men, echoing our echo, hey! The prow of the aquifers was a rival of the dolphins in the forest And he groans in abundance, and praises himself to the lizards Aone pulls the dog to lead and circle the furrow Hey, men, echoing our echo, hey! Let the eagles hear the rolling waves of the raft! The foam of the sea is shaken by the oars. But here we are! It sounds like he's been brought back to the regular voices!

[@thehajduk6451]

I would love if the DEI mod would portray fleets just like you depicted them.

[@dcoff479]

excellent work once again.

[@DJLR1066]

As always a brilliant video, keep it up man! :)

[@InvictaHistory]

thank you, thank you, you're far too kind!

[@DJLR1066]

THFE Productions not at all, much appreciation for your vids over here in the UK!

[@suyashbhagwat5615]

Amazing really loving these.

[@T7_H3rbz]

Killed it!!! Will watch more guaranteed

[@toshiroyamada2443]

love these videos

[@RJA2323]

Hey man! Your mini documentaries are really awesome. Have you checked out the Hellenika Mod for Rome II? You could do a really good documentary on the Spartan Morai and Perioikoi and the like. Thanks for the great content!

[@Wang_E_Normus]

Great documentary! Keep it up!

[@starhawck]

I just remember how you were doing Halo Reach vids on the halo forge epidemic a few years back, and look at where you are at now.

[@InvictaHistory]

its kinda incredible to consider the difference. Never thought i'd be doing this but it is definitely way more awesome!!!

[@starhawck]

THFE Productions I like it too, but i miss the old days of The halo forge epidemic, the channel has gone downhill, hope they can solve their problems and get back to speed.And until then, keep doing what you are doing it's great.

[@Draggis92]

Could you make a documentary about the roman war against Pyrrhus of Epirus?

[@InvictaHistory]

I'd like to cover it as its kind of Rome's debut on the Meditteranean stage

[@kirschakos]

Awesome video once again :)

[@krasnoir]

Hi, first of all, amazing video, thank you very much for creating it! I'm really intrigued by the chanty at 2:20. So far, I found out it is part of the anthologia Latina (388a), but I'd like to know more about it. Do you happen to remember which of your sources stated that this song was actually sung by Roman sailors? :) It could be a good starting pointing

[@reopreop4690]

Awesome episode :)

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

well done Oakley. Love it.

[@hellenictech]

Very good work

[@knstantinost.8787]

MOAR!!!

[@jame9169]

This was really interesting, thanks!

[@InvictaHistory]

yay!

[@TPSNighthunter]

+THFE Productions Hey Oakley! I'm from Germany and i love your awesome vids. Keep it up! I've been so many times to Italy and saw the remainings of a powerful empire; its tragical ending shouldn't have taken place. I love Rome and I love your work you always put into these documentaries. I hope my English was understandable :D. Have a good day!

[@InvictaHistory]

I've also been to Italy several times and its initially what got me into the world of Roman history. I can't escape now... full steam ahead!!!

[@TPSNighthunter]

THFE Productions Yea love it. These awesome tactics, formations and all these clever commanders. If you just look it up and read the books written by Josephus Flavius about the siege of Jerusalem. And their marching speed. 60 km (~ 37 miles) per DAY!! The cohort system, their powerful fleet and their impact to the whole known world - Rome truly deserved this empire.

[@japeregrine1589]

these are great

[@moritzrichter2779]

hey Oakley congratulations for this great video. Can you pls make a documertery about the battle of waterloo in the style of the canae-pice. that would be great. pls write an answer.

[@InvictaHistory]

I'd actually prefer to wait and see if the next historical total war lets me do a video on that battle with better graphics

[@moritzrichter2779]

+THFE Productions thank you for your fast answer. it's right that napoleon isn't perfect for that type of Video but have you ever thought of a video about maby sekigahara (shogun 2). ist a great game and sekugahara was the big showdown between toyotomi and tokugawa. how do you think of this idea?

[@InvictaHistory]

someone suggested something similar. While I agree it would be doable and maybe worthwhile it is a subject I am not very knowledgeable about. As a result I think it would take more time than a typical video and not prove as cost effective a use of my resources. In the future though I may reconsider

[@moritzrichter2779]

+THFE Productions OK thank you for the answer. if you want to know more about japanese history i can reccomment the book “samurai-750-1615(or someting like this thanks for your great work on KZbin, you own one of my favorite canels

[@manasnair1]

Great!

[@fizzypurple5495]

Hey Oakley, what historical title would you like next? For me it's either medieval or WW1

[@InvictaHistory]

I'd kinda like a victorian era one or even something around china

[@NewspeakMedia]

Did the boats have names? Like they have now

[@tristangeyskens6749]

these are so interesting (no sarcasm) thx!

[@michaelhenry3234]

What's the song used in the first half of the video?

[@kalamaroni]

What were the implications of these limitations on naval trade?

[@InvictaHistory]

naval trade would have actually used different types of ships. These had rounder hulls and relied mostly on sails. As a result they could go on much longer voyages

[@kalamaroni]

THFE Productions Kinda like transports then :P Were these trading ships ever used for warfare? Also, what did the pirates use? Presumably they did not have the kind of land support a navy would need, and they'd probably need to stay out at sea for a while.

[@Normacly]

It was likely that the Romans would converted trade ships into transports when the need arise. However, it is highly unlikely they were used as warships, since their hulls and decks were not design for real combat. Meanwhile, pirates during this time were actually rich and powerful. They were likely able to afford building their own ships and they also captured warships from various states. It was only in the late Republic Era did the Romans began to hunt down pirates on a massive scale.

[@EvilTwinn]

An important thing to realize is that a trade ship by itself is still a very useful thing in warfare. It likely wouldn't be used for combat, just for carrying supplies. As for pirates, it depends. Oftentimes they had ships similar to those used by the navies of the period. Hell, at points they WERE effectively a navy. If you look at Pompey's campaign against the pirates, you get a sense of just how big a deal they were.

[@StarlitSeafoam]

Lionel Casson has some fabulous books that focus on all things sailorly in the Ancient Mediteranian, from navies, to merchants, to pirates.

[@Sabrowsky]

so was ALL of the crew just foot soldiers or were there some trained marines on board?

[@InvictaHistory]

There was no professional marine force, they were just standard legionaries. The navy itself would not even be standardized until Augustus.

[@richardlott579]

May I ask what video game are these images taken from?

[@deanrichard1770]

Heyy that's pretty good

[@ohzeyh]

how much does rome 2 cost id love to play

[@None-ri7ss]

hey how long are You going to do youtube

[@InvictaHistory]

not sure haha, I've only scratched the surface of roman history so far

[@None-ri7ss]

+THFE Productions thanks for saying man great fan and I wish you have great success in the future

[@None-ri7ss]

Please answer it would be really nice if you could

[@mypony891]

Wonder how many Marines got sea sick at once. That many people not used to boats all suddenly having to get packed in a boat....yuk

[@felixleidinger1670]

2:20 WHAT ARE THOSE?

[@InvictaHistory]

the verses of a song used for setting the pace while rowing

[@felixleidinger1670]

THFE Productions I meant some of the soldiers in the unit, at least from the viewers perspective, look a bit... out of time. Like some russian timetravellers from the ninteenhundreds/early twentyhundreds showed up, asked if they could join, and the senate handed them swords and said "chill, nobody will see this guys" :D See, like russian uniform mantles and caps, but with swords. Maybe just an optical illusion. 4th row, second from the left for example.

[@InvictaHistory]

those are some of the more historically accurate units from the DEI mod

[@felixleidinger1670]

THFE Productions hm I need to check that one out, thanks :D

[@larsrons7937]

While all the others look ancient to me, you're right that guy you mentioned (number two from the left) looks very modern. Both his white cap and his jacket (the only one with arms) do not look like anything I have ever seen from the ancient world. More like someone from the Cutty Sark or the Titanic. Could it be one of the programmers himself, a sort of easter egg for the players to discover?

[@RetroEcoChicken]

they did beleve in neptun, so they probobly beleved in some sort of superstision like creatures drowing soldiers.

[@thesimpleshepherd7253]

hey can you do a Japanese Samurai documentary thing that would be cool or lore on warhammer total war

[@elsasslotharingen7507]

Rome >>> All now srsly He would waste time reading a completely different subject and make less videos. So no.

[@InvictaHistory]

I kinda agree with this. I'd love to cover other time periods but it would take a lot more effort to produce than these

[@hubertszymanski4817]

you forget that for romans serve as marine was punishment. They afraid of sea. During civil war one of Pompei's trirems goes to Antioch cause soldiers wants more noble serving.

[@HACUNA89]

I want to be a Gubernator! GUBER!!!!!!

[@MrPeterPan]

Damn

[@gameoflife9576]

It sucks to be a rower

[@HNW00]

Warhammer lore vids!

[@dannyboy5493]

Game is shit

[@JakobDrawitsch]

go to Arch Warhammer for Warhammer lore Videos. Oakley isn't about lore, he is about history- something quite more interesting imo because it actually happened- not saying that lore can't be interesting though, Arch's videos are darn good

[@DirectlyFromMusic-DFM]

somevone getting hired by ca?:-) hmmmm