Warframe : All INDIFFERENCE Cutscenes After New War Quest to Warframe 1999

[@MorningLightMtn]

The Void/Indifference has 2 known "somewhat" separate bodies/entities under it's control. The Operator-Doppelganger, that haunts us the players (especially in the orbiters), and Albrecht-Doppelganger, that haunts Albretch. There could be a Parvos-Doppelganger and a Baro-Doppelganger, even a Lotus-Doppelganger, since those 3 are heavily implied to have made direct deals with Wally, which both the Operator and Albrecht had done, and made them true targets for Wally. From what I can tell, The Void can essentially copy anything (Oull), but heavily prefers to copy the entity it is currently interacting with, with some exceptions. The Void is a mirror of Reality, in a sense. This is a massive headache for lorefans, since we can't really tell if the Albrecht we are talking to and is being shown, is actually the REAL Albrecht. This was shown in the ARG leading to 1999, because the Albrecht that was leading the people in that ARG turned out to be Wally himself pretending to be Albrecht. That ARG is also hinted to be the reason why the Techrot Virus known as the boyband "On-Lyne" managed to spread to the future/current WF time. This has lead to a rather crazy theory among lore-nerds and story-fans: What if the Albrecht we knew is actually the Void that escaped during the first meeting of Albrecht and the Void. And the true, original Orokin Albrecht was trapped in the Void and became the Man in the Wall? Rap-Tap-Tap, does sound like someone desperately trying to wear down the Wall of Lohk, to try and escape the Void. It would explain why the so-called "Indifference" is so angry, petty, arrogant and hostile to anything that tries to stop it. Because those are classic Orokin traits. And the current Albrecht is so awkward, bizarre, and detached yet obsessed, because it is a Void entity that is still trying to learn how it is to be a mortal human.

[@NinjaMaster23145]

“Who’s little act of courage twinkled like a petty ayatan, before our Golden Indifference.”

[@Morrow16]

"And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm in. Because of this idea: That I cannot be sure. That in all that smoked commotion, in all that panic and fear, in that bending light and blinding dark... was it I who escaped? Or the other?" Can it be that instead of Albrecht not knowing if he's Wally, it is the *Indifference itself* that copied Albrecht to the point it's s not sure what, or rather who, it is? Also, even taking into account Albrecht might turn out to be just another Orokin in terms of his attitude, the possibility he was sitting alone in the void for thousands of years desperately trying to punch through the wall of Lohk to origin system is kinda bone-chilling. Thx for the new theory I'll be thinking about while playing the game, stranger. Have a great day 😁

[@vendettatamsu3662]

Speaking of “Rap. Tap. Tap.”, I remember I was at the mall, and all of a sudden, I hear, “Rap. Tap…” I’m wondering if I’m the only one who’s heard it or not.

[@chloekaftan]

i prefer to believe that Albrecht is like any orokin who refused to partake of the kuva, someone who is human but has forgotten their humanity, Loid helped see that part of himself more over time, which is why hes awkward sometimes, like a person who doesn't know common sense things that humans would know. His mannerisms kind of remind me of Rei Ayanami from Neon Genesis Evangelion a bit actually... ... wait a minute...

[@Q-wh5yp]

It would make sense only because how tf do you learn void tongue

[@tigerstorm6622]

Everyone’s gangsta till Wally starts chanting something in void tongue

[@bboyterrariaandsfs]

XATA FASS XATA

[@Misosalty683]

KRAH OULL LOHK🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@aeternalii]

YARA MIG!

[@robinchwan]

don't make me bring out my WOLOLOOO

[@Kinessmata-Akkadian]

JAHU OULL LOHK

[@TheCr0oked1]

From what i can tell, the man in the wall is warframes version of narolethotep, which makes the tenno a warlock of sorts. In return for powers, he sees the origin system through our eyes. He shows up as the universe is being thrown into entropy because without people, the universe is indifferent, which is why albrect sends you back to get to know the hex as people. If he is allowed into the system, it's over even for a force as powerful as the tenno

[@YoureMadBozo71]

1999 update(and the computer texts with drifter lore) made me a lore freak. So much mind fuckery going on 😂😂 but I’m catching up/on. Imagine the man in the wall being one of many others that are equally, if not more powerful than wally in the warframe universe and are just hidden or resting for now while this whole thing is happening

[@Lung-Stealer]

Nah we'd beat him

[@chiefoftimes387]

Like fullmetal alchemist.

[@TheCr0oked1]

@YoureMadBozo71 the man in the wall is a concept the orokin used to create power from nothing (endo). The only other resource like this is kuva, which seems to come from literal thin air so there are likely other beings like the man in the wall and one may be related to it as it has multiple world changing powers

[@Hawk-Eye-bs2hr]

Bastard still startles me in the orbiter to this day.😂

[@arieltoucan2127]

We got backroom btw

[@nicholaswhite2886]

U an me both especially when they say hey kiddo while peeping around the corner that lil bastard scared me silly when he does that

[@artyomxiii]

​@@arieltoucan2127I haven't got the backroom jumps are yet

[@ArtoriasGaming0516]

I haven't encountered It since Whispers in the Walls, but maybe i just have bad RNG...

[@jaden9499]

I forgot the last time I encountered him it's been so long maybe like 2 years could be because I don't play that much tbh

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

I never noticed but Wally's vessel has the same galaxy eyes that all his human version have. Until we stroke its cheek where the Vessels eyes turn back to normal.

[@harlowviv2968]

Anyone else just waiting for the man in the wall to realize he can use transference? Being attacked by a hundred war frames would be nuts

[@AtomicoMacaco]

Didn't he technically use transfefence in Whisper in The Walls to control one of those giant dudes?

[@hambor12]

I think the issue is that one of the main traits needed to successfully use transference over long periods of time is empathy. “The Ability to Look at a Broken, Ugly Thing And Take Away Its Pain” Empathy and love are poison to the Indifference, and that is why it can’t just hijack warframes at will

[@humanratteler9760]

@@hambor12id like for him to control ours and turn it psycho then. That’d be cool. Warframe vs operator

[@humanratteler9760]

Y’a know, cuz it’d be a very strained painful control without empathy

[@nightmarebs666]

In short.....there is no power stronger than love. Tenno to lotus (as mother), the pilot himself, loid to entrati, group love in the hexs xD

[@Weiswolfe]

Entrati says so, the poison of wally's plan is love, hate is not the antithesis of love, but indifference

[@Okino569]

Drifter does not fear indifference

[@juanjox2006]

he was indifferent when he was trapped in duviri, he knows what indifference is, and he overcome it by feeling again in the quest, that's my theory

[@humanratteler9760]

I’m sayin, we only saw the real entrati one time in the 1999 quest. In that chair. Then never again

[@TheScrootch]

Just give him his damn finger back already!

[@mitkoogrozev]

But but, will all the spaceships work without it? Maybe no more space faring civilization without it?

[@TheScrootch]

@@mitkoogrozev Sorry, it's one or the other.

[@Weiswolfe]

Dunno if that will be enough Wally is simply fascinated by the denizens of the waking world, he wants it all

[@theoscla]

To be fair possibly the trade we did with Wally was "I save you and you release me" so he wants that finger to recover his power and finally break into the origin system. If that's the case I would be more scared of what managed to defeat the man in the wall (A reality bender entity) and managed to trap it in the void

[@farithazry3455]

Hello, can anyone clarify this? Who's Albrecht that was with the Man in the Wall, and who's Albrecht in 1999? Is Albrecht who is in 1999 is the real one? And why and when he bailed? 🤔What's the story behind it?

[@GamingDauG]

Yea it's still pretty confusing, will have to rely on some lore experts for this

[@machina7313]

That’s the question, isn’t it kiddo?

[@pancakes4552]

The Albrecht with Wally was a Wally taken version, the one in the 1st 1999 cutscene is also Wally (technically), the Albrecht that is in 1999 is the real one and he bailed before the Reset

[@pancakes4552]

Oh and love is quite literally a poison to Wally as it's a foreign concept to it

[@o_Ol]

The entire 1999 quest is based on the mission Albrecht sets to trying escaping from Indifference. The reason why he wants to escape from Indifference is he was already haunted or somehow possessed by it, so he had to figure a way to escape or bail so he can have time and energy to focus on his work. So here comes the 1999 quest, where Albrecht wants to alter the timeline so he can "escape" just like the stories in Terminator series. Fortunately, Indifference can't possess multiple bodies at the same time, so Albrecht could have time to figure out how to bail. However, Indifference seems to have found Albrecht bailing so it keeps him hostage while possessing Scaldra female boss. Anyway, I think DE lacks of ability to write logical and fluent scripts or plots, unless DE just wants to keep the story more and more ambiguous so the game can be kept alive and active.

[@themessiah..]

Im starting to suspect this entire thing might have been caused by a misunderstanding.

[@_castro]

18:43 i can legit imagine Loid comically fainting after this LOL

[@Ahsmic]

DE was smoking that good shi with this update 😂

[@Inkastar-tz8yd]

what was lotus doing when wally showed up in new war?

[@junk2040]

Proteccin da child

[@Inkastar-tz8yd]

@junk2040 i get that but how

[@junk2040]

@@Inkastar-tz8yd the only way she knew with her power and that lovecraftian horror

[@o_Ol]

Lotus was giving the energy of love to the Operator so the Indifference couldn't touch her or the Operator as it didn't understand love at all. But it laughed and said something in murmur tone like saying "I will win anyways".

[@Inkastar-tz8yd]

@o_Ol huh yeah that makes sense using her motherly love as a barrier to protect us

[@yeahimethan5968]

shouldnt you include the chains of harrow?

[@GamingDauG]

It only mentions the name of man in the wall, not him personally talking. This video Is about all his interactions

[@ionut-u4i]

And who is indiference after all and why did albert bail out

[@DarthMallus]

The Indifference is basically an eldritch void entity that’s essentially the reason everything in the lore happened. As for Big Al fleeing, I got nothing. Best guess, it was to keep Loid (and by extension, the Origin System) safe since Wally (community’s name for The Indifference) seems to want him for something that we don’t know yet, though if I were to guess, it would have to do with Wally’s missing finger As the fish with the big brain said: “So long as The Indifference is missing a digit, it is confined to the strands of Khra” meaning that if Wally got their finger back, everyone’s cooked

[@Hunter-zf7rt]

From what I understand the indifference is the sentient consciousness of the void,it is the void

[@o_Ol]

​@@Hunter-zf7rtNope it's not. If it was a sentient conscience, Natah or Lotus would have fully understood it already since she herself is sentient. The truth is The Man in the Wall is way beyond Lotus's understanding.

[@Hunter-zf7rt]

@@o_Ol not that type of sentient,I mean it never had a proper conscious before entrati entered the void

[@The-No-one]

​@@o_OlSentient is the name of the race but sentient also means something that thinks for itself for example a person has their own sentience which makes them a sentient species

[@blueab07]

Indifference ❌ Me 2 ✔️

[@commandermaverick1487]

I thought that thing was called the wall of lohk

[@Gorthnag]

The Wall of Lohk is the "barrier" between reality and the Void. Think of reality as a swimming pool, and The Void is the air. The Man in the Wall, is a dude laying face down on an inflatable raft staring into the pool. The only part of his actually touching the water is his finger. The inflatable raft, is the Wall of Lohk

[@crazymage5316]

I swear if we legit beat him with power of love and friendship ill be annoyed

[@GamingDauG]

Defeated with a Warm HuG 😂 good enough to uninstall the game

[@Jester4460]

even for warframe thats corny

[@Manny-fc8ym]

There's NO ORHER FEASIBLE WAY

[@Gorthnag]

Warframe is LITTERALLY about love and kindess. The entire story is Anti-Nihilism. "it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain." Family, emotional strength, and love have been a constant part of the main story of Warframe. If we do not use love and friendship to defeat the Void, that would be completely out of character for the entire theme.

[@Gorthnag]

@@Jester4460 It's the theme of the entire story

[@chiefoftimes387]

It's crazy to know that all Frames were once a Proto. That's a lot of experiments.

[@rileybingham6918]

Wally is a is the dax that ballas had Albrecht put in the void and take back out after dax turned warframe to give it sentience resistance stripping ability in case hunhow turned against him is my theory and by against him i mean ballas since ballas alligned with hunhow im talking about before operator contolled Warframe

[@o_Ol]

Wally existed way before Albrecht was born....

[@silverim4224]

No... Wally is the sentience of the void that took shape because albrecht stepped across it from his big portal door. That was when the 'identity' of the indifference was made. It's all a synonym. The lidless eye, wally, man in the wall, the indifference all refers to the same thing which is the consciousness of the void

[@rileybingham6918]

@@silverim4224 then why at the end of New war wally appeared as a dax in the wall and in sanctum anatomica dax looking heads are in the background of where the lotus are devs are giving us a clue my theory is saying that before Albrect went into the void ballas had Albrect do to the dax as I said in the comments I'm giving a answer to both things why would umbra have sentience resistance stripping ability and the answer to the heads in sanctum anatomica and New war

[@Gorthnag]

I think you need to read some lore videos my friend, because you made half of that up from nothing