Warframe: Koumei Is NOT What I Expected - Dice Maiden Build & First Look

[@TacticalPotato]

Thoughts on Koumei? She's so Random with decree's and status spreading that it feels a bit off at times. She is just OK but with decrees she obviously grows in power.

[@Redbeard_obby]

I love her, found a wacky builds that spams her strings, got her acting like Saryns kid sister Transient Fortitude has an intresting effect on the behavior of her 1

[@karmaizunia9603]

Shes REALLY REALLY mid compared to any of the latest frames. -- oooh status affects, too bad you kill everything before you really benefit from them. "Condition overload oooh" have fun spamming weapon swaps and rolling dice while I just press two buttons and clear the room for you.

[@michaelbennett3911]

OH, So basely she's a training frame technically, For new players. Or just a fun time for OG. That's cool!

[@Beanpolr]

​@@karmaizunia9603You can do that with weapons alone, so any frame would perform the same, it's not a good argument. You only really notice frame abilities in super high level content once you've got good weapon builds.

[@papajohn4948]

"shortest build time" my ass. Limbo still takes one minute to build XD

[@gabenadel]

I've been really enjoying her! Mostly, though, I'm excited by the directions that the dev team is taking. There is an exceptional level of polish to Koumei that I feel is raising the standard for the game. New UI things, her own unique CC animations (which are fantastic), and the implementation of broader mechanics like the decrees. She even has new footstep audio if you listen closely. Not to mention that her animations across the board feel a cut above. It leaves me continually excited for the state of the game right now and the future in the hands of this new generation of leadership. Looking forward to more innovation from one of the best dev teams in gaming.

[@klawschafer7425]

DE under reb has been very high quality recently

[@ThatGuy-rz6tv]

I came back to this game a a couple months back and all of the updates that have come out since I came back have been amazing. The quality of life changes especially make the whole experience so much better. It feels like any time I start to feel annoyed about a feature in the game, an update almost instantly comes out to fix it.

[@maskettaman1488]

Polish in terms of graphics, audio, feel, etc, for sure. Polish in terms of actual gameplay and design, not so much. It's been a while since they've added a frame that actually has a strong identity or place in the game. Koumei is no different. She's not even going to be a go-to pick for endurance missions

[@EranBrown]

​​@@maskettaman1488I mean identity is a good thing but right now her Identity is clashing with her bad design in game play as in you have to play an hour of survival to feel anything. That's not gonna go over well with people. Her abilities needs some massive stat boosts like triple quadruple. That 4th needs to pull the enemies apart when they get strung up. Now that's identity. Just not boring run and gun. But if you like her by all means play her.

[@maskettaman1488]

@@EranBrown The closest thing she has to an identity is "that RNG frame" which is incredibly weak. Compare it to a frame like Frost, Mesa, etc that have very strong and clear identities and roles. DE has been missing the mark for a long time

[@Twistshock]

It's always good to let new players get some stuff easier.

[@nova661]

@@Twistshock it seems a little too easy though idk

[@mrdoormat6809]

​@@nova661 wasn't that literally the point?

[@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920]

@@nova661 It should be easier with how bad she is for early game players.

[@AMythicalTrickster]

Honestly for being an endurance frame, shes fun as hell. I feel like i cant die, enemies sneeze and get 8182892^7 status effects, and with some range hee 4 has some pretty good CC.

[@elirivers2984]

@@AMythicalTrickster love the exponential number thrown in there lol. I’m in the midst of building Koumei and her primary. Wanna try Harrow with the Higasa but honestly it’s going to be fun to build for Koumei. Did you use any of the Archon mods? Seems fun to run Archon Stretch or something.

[@FelisImpurrator]

I dropped three umbrals and a couple archon mods on. Barely even killable, on top of having access to the insanity of Duviri.

[@NotThatGuyTBH]

Gonna play limbo so I can banish bad rollers

[@DayMaker187]

nah nah nah just helmith 4th ability of koumei with banish so you can be a trolling gambler

[@Nymphaea01]

I support this

[@QwietStorm]

Can you banish Volt and Wisp players who spam speed and drop motes everywhere.

[@Elysian-III]

Ok

[@THE1vbLLover69_]

Do not condemn what you are incapable of understanding, young one. Bad rolls are just a gateway to the better ones

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Rebecca made a point during Tokyo Game Show about how the dice rolls were lucky "added benefits." What that says to me (and I'm yet to play her to see if this is how it feels) is that her abilities and passive and general approach should be good, but getting lucky just adds more on top. The decrees being tied to challenges presents agency to the player and, I saw some people saying "there should be a pity to bad dice rolls," I feel like the challenges are what that should be. Ultimately, I think you're probably right that she'll likely feel a tad awkward in shorter engagements, though they did say she was more tailored to longer endurance type content. And as a related side note, I feel like Duviri Experience runs tend to feel better when they're longer as well. Like, a lot of people don't like Steel Path Duviri, but I find few things in the game as satisfying as stacking 20-30 decrees and one-hit slicing up Dax in Duviri as a result of all that extra power. I'm imagining squads stacking four Koumeis and seeing who can perform the best.

[@AlexTheMan007]

Longer endurance my ass, if u bring her to lvl cap u get 1 shoted all the tine...she s useless....u literally need to spam 1 to keep up the shield gating with full yellow shards....

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@AlexTheMan007 I tried to make my comment balanced to imply that if she's not working that way, she should be updated or changed to be more what was intended. Apologies if that didn't carry through. That said, if you're surviving purely via shield gating, that's a whole other discussion about how that also needs to be changed as shield gating was supposed to be an emergency buffer from being one-shot, not a dedicated screen-melting method of immortality for endurance fiends who think "the only way to play" is staying in a single mission for hours just to see 9999 over enemy heads.

[@AnymMusic]

@@AlexTheMan007 brother there are only a tiny handful of frames that can comfortably do level cap. 99.9% of players will not do level cap

[@janarcangel49]

​@@AlexTheMan007 Might wanna change your shirt there man. I can smell your sweat from here.

[@plapmeatowo]

@@AlexTheMan007 it takes less than half a minute to search on youtube "koumei solo level cap" and find a video of someone doing what you're claiming is impossible so honestly that's just a skill issue lmao

[@t_hodge_]

Getting Koumei really isn't that much of a grind, but if you're running her mission a lot it is trivialized by Khora. If you have any decent amount of range and a lot of duration, Khora can put a strangledome at each defense circle and cc/kill all the enemies away. I was able to consistently finish the mission in under 3 minutes. Spoiler mode can pick up another offering so you can carry both at once when they finish.

[@Runic403]

@@t_hodge_ I was using Vauban and he made it almost too easy just throwing down flechette orbs on the points and mopping up an stragglers it was usually about 4 or five minutes per run for me

[@literalcupoftea6299]

I found that running xaku made the mission quite easy

[@Wyvernwolfy]

Did the same thing with Qorvex's first ability with max range, can be put on anyone if you subsumed him

[@Pendergast891]

Explosive Legerdemain is hilariously strong as well

[@Watts-si4wm]

Also I gotta say is, it was this mirage using that one that make drops explode. I literally didn't even see an enemy after the first 30 seconds of the mission.

[@BobisOnlyBob]

Limbo is actually a 1m build now, like Umbra and other Quest warframes where building them is a requirement! But koumei's 24 hour build timer is definitely an improvement, and she's interesting in how she's not great for short missions and the unlucky, but clearly built for making endurance missions scale.

[@O111e]

I feel like Limbo himself shouldn't be, since you only actually build him after the quest is already finished. The parts, sure. But like... That just seems like kinda pushing it with the main frame being 1m.

[@BobisOnlyBob]

@@O111e honestly, until they fix Limbo and his all-or-nothing relationship with Eximus units, my boy deserves to be a quick build!

[@O111e]

@@BobisOnlyBobWhat they need to fix is his all-or-nothing relationship with other players🌚

[@TheNavyPanda]

I feel like a counter to the 2.5 minute cooldown could be whenever you roll a triple 6 it resets the cooldown timer. Maybe strength increases the odds of getting higher dice rolls or increases the chances of getting rare decrees

[@dark_star2497]

Based subscriptions 👍

[@jamesaditya5254]

resetting outright might be too strong, I think halving the cd each time is fair with a minimum of say, 30 seconds reduction just so it doesn't feel bad if you're already below 1 minute cd

[@DorkyDanMan]

I feel like if they made it where higher ability strength would prevent low dice rolls, it would help a lot.

[@VideoKingist]

"Loaded Dice" augment incoming

[@permeus2nd]

I am kinda surprised that she dosnt have some kind of loaded dice gimmick or a slight of hand. I used to play warhammer (now I couldn’t afford to play it even if I wanted to they charge so much for models) and my luck with dice rolls was way above average even before I sometimes cheated (I only cheated against people I also knew were cheating or if they were really cocky and needed to be brought down a peg or two or if it was way too funny like one friend I used to have we would have a cheat off against each other the game was more about who could spot the others cheats but back on topic) but if I was in the mood to tilt the dice in my favour it’s ever so easy to grab a few extra dice as you are clearing away the misses and I wasn’t even that skilled(I know a few people that are part of the magic circle and they are scary), someone that’s known as the gambling frame should be really good and making it so the house always wins. Maybe this will be added with mods for her later but it really should be part of her base kit.

[@karmaizunia9603]

The fact that they only included shit decrees doesnt help either.

[@VideoKingist]

@@karmaizunia9603 What are you smoking dude?

[@wanted_melon2348]

​@@VideoKingist or"Jackpot"

[@Dv32768]

4:07 this guy just casually rolls 4 sixes

[@TacticalPotato]

Only took 50 tries 😂

[@O111e]

The first to roll 5 sixes and then a 6 with her melee will be deemed the ultimate Koumei

[@jamesaditya5254]

masterfully curated gameplay footage

[@Umbrellie_]

Honestly, I find it's easier to think of her as having an unmodifiable ~3.55% chance to "crit" with each of her abilities, rather than tricking yourself into believing the Triple 6 effect of each is the end-goal. If you play Koumei expecting to get loads of Triple 6s, then you're basically gambling with the expectation that you'll leave with more than you put in.

[@Neudezign]

I think she's kind of cool. Will she be one of my favorites; probably not, but as we approach 60 frames 😮 it's nice to know DE can still bring something new or different to the table when it comes to these frames. I do find that refreshing at least.

[@theopeneyes]

Seeing her health, shields and armor each being triple a number tickles my brain.

[@elo9125]

From a vet point of view, our weapons are usually so powerful they triviliaze most non-high-endurance runs anyway,. In EDA the weapon selection usually has more impact on how easily the run will go than the frame, outside of some top-tier nuke or sustain frames like Saryn or Wisp or Citrine, and if you roll an Incarnon weapon it's gg, it hardly even matters which one. If you're desperate there is little stopping you from subsuming Roar or Nourish or Ecliplse on every single frame you own and just steamrolling through content that way. Because of that, the warframe you pick mostly defines the flavour of the game, and not your power level, which is then just down to personal preference. And honestly? Koumei is very spicy and I love it. It's the gambling fantasy of lowest lows and highest highs, all at the mercy of a dice roll. Every time you cast an ability it is like a handhsake with the devil and I don't want DE to turn her into a "safe" frame by giving you a way to prevent bad dice rolls, you can already reject Decree challenges by hold-casting her 2nd ability and thats enough. The decrees stay for the duration of the mission so you can obviously snowball in longer runs, but for shorter runs the challenge condition can be really easy or really harsh, and give good or mediocre reward. It feels more like opening rivens than Duviri decrees, but also gives the goal and progression flow of chasing nightwave challenges. It's a huge serotonin dispenser, as befits the gambling warframe, the fact that she can land anywhere between mediocre and absurdly powerful during the mission is kind of irrelevant for 99% of content we have in game right now. Even if you are not a gambling addict (I play 3 gacha games simultaneously, judge me as you will), I think she is strong enough thanks to the primiing, CC and decent survivability in her kit. You can play her and completely ignore what happens with her dice, you'll just occassionally notice that instead of one enemy you CC'd more enemies, and that you gain a period of invulnerability when casting her 3. Statuses are strong but if you are actively shooting and killing enemies with your weapons it hardly matters how many random statuses they happen to have during the 1.2s they are alive on your screen.

[@Henry12151]

I just wish the challenges were more creative or varied. Seeing the words "wall latch" makes me want to scratch my eyeballs off. Things like "Kill X enemies...": "within 10 seconds" "with your primary/secondary/melee" "without losing your shields"

[@togirainoka654]

Maybe even simpler challenges for high dice roll. Like, if you get 6 twice/total roll is above X its like"Do X kills/spend X energy/ take X health or energy orbs" If you get six once /total roll is above Y the pool of challenges changes/adds some trickier ones, like current parkour kills(except wall latch, this must gtfo), maybe kills affected by some status effects/certain weapons. And so on, you get the idea.

[@bleepin]

Agreed. Wall Latch challenge is easiest with an AOE weapon. The sliding one and the 20 meters away one are also a bit annoying

[@sladefury0000]

ABSOLUTELY ELATED TO SEE THE OCUCOR GETTING LOVE

[@sonic4197]

everytime i click on a video of you and its just allways so good music, you never disapoint.

[@TheTsukiKnight]

I really like koumei’s mechanics, I think the randomness brings fun, I get excited for a triple 6 because it’s not a guaranteed chance so I feel lucky and also feel like the roll is worth it

[@wolfsteele]

I did read quite a few posts on reddit who were really negative about her. Tried her out myself with a simple meso survival 40 minutes run. It was fun to say at least. I am not really used anymore to play with frames that need energy since i main Hildryn but Koumei is really fun.

[@MyDemon32]

I wouldn't consider Reddit a good source of info.

[@rwqfsfasxc4668]

Yeah i did a 1 hour survival to see how she works after hearing a lot of negative things about her... Honestly she's pretty fun. I think most people are upset because her "nuke" doesn't kill everything by simply pressing one button and also her survivability.

[@spartacus6256]

@@MyDemon32 reddit seems to be a consistent place for bad opinions in any game community.

[@edR_mcd]

Reddit is a negative dumpster fire

[@EranBrown]

​@@rwqfsfasxc4668that's the negative thing about her tho. These long missions are mind numbingly boring. I get bored using a gun for my only source of damage. But if you like that go for it. They just need to do something before she is put on the shelf like quovex was on launch

[@ClockworkCanary-3]

My luck gambling has always sucked. The RNG does not like me, but Koumei is fun. I like the powers! Unfortunately the decree one is a bit distracting in missions with objectives, so I am going to have two very different builds: One build for survival that keeps decrees because the challenges can be fun. One build for other things, like syndicate dailies, with a power subsumed over the decree power, because on short missions with objectives the decree challenges are a distraction(and, my luck is horrible). Did you know that the power can debuff you before you succeed at the challenge or were you lucky enough you didn’t get that? I didn’t like her signature primary for the challenges; bring something better for wall latch or aerial kills. Anyway, I had fun playing Koumei even with my horrible luck. Her feel, sound effects, and animations are all really fun for me.

[@vincentfrights1690]

So as someone who has played with this frame a bit something that people should try is slapping on fleeting expertise. Hear me out. Her threads immediately apply the statuses immediately, instead of repeatedly over and over again like Lavos. Her second has no timer for her challenges, and her buffs are permanent. Also her fourth has an internal cooldown that does not allow her to spam her fourth until a set amount of time, which can be fixed just by dropping her duration under 100. Also like her first ability her fourth immediately applies all statuses.

[@lordnul1708]

DE: releases Koumei The community: I think we prefer to work with known quantities, thank you. (Yes I am quoting Ordis from when we reinstall the Relics segment) That said, I mained Hero back when I played Smash Ultimate, so I might give Koumei a proper go.

[@lindseyfaelan8339]

I adore her. She has rolled the clock back to day one and reminded me how to actually engage with the game, instead of just speed running through everything.

[@user-jm8sy5ox2j]

the 24hr build time on koumei absolutely needs to be replicated across every frame in the game, it is one of the best QOL changes that they've added to warframe in years. If i was going to suggest a change to koumei that wouldn't make it too powerful, I'd say that the dice rolls need a pity system per ability. The chances of you rolling quintuple sixes is something extremely low like 0.013%, or one in ~7750 rolls, so I feel like a reasonable change to make would be to either load the dice corresponding to power strength or every time that you don't get a quintuple six roll, they weigh the probability higher and higher until you get all sixes then reset the dice. Realistically, Koumei's abilities on the lucky roll is not that much better than other good frames that don't have to rely on a 1 in 7000 rng roll, so they've gotta change something if they don't want Koumei to be the next Yareli. Also, if they're going to let you get decrees in normal missions then they need to give you an option of what decrees you can get. Nobody is going to bother with things like wall latch kills if the reward is the decree that makes you drop a frost bomb when you roll or the one that randomly leaves behind a tiny toxin cloud while you're actively attacking enemies. If you had the option of doing like 15 wall latch kills in exchange for melee attacks hitting twice or get 20 headshots in exchange for reloading increasing the next shot's damage, then people might have a reason to use the ability how it is designed to be used. 150 seconds to re cast the ability is also a bit insane considering how many warframe mission don't even last long enough to cast that ability twice. I think they got a bit spooked with the Dante update where Dante and several other frames became insane for a week or two, and now they're releasing some frames in a distinctly mid state so they can buff the frame over the next year into a usable state.

[@Nephale]

They are probably testing how it affects their sales. They still have to make money afterall.

[@user-jm8sy5ox2j]

@@Nephale True, but it still takes 36 hours to craft a frame which is something like 125 plat to rush, then you need frame slots, forma, reactors, etc to use it so its not like they're eliminating a route of monetization. That 3 day craft time is something that has been one of the top complaints from new players to veteran players since this game released so its about time that they finally fix that issue, they've probably lost more money due to new players leaving because of that 3 day craft time than they've made by selling plat to rush it anyways.

[@jamesaditya5254]

@@user-jm8sy5ox2j the 3 day craft timer almost feels like a litmus test for new players, and they come to tolerate it since almost every other aspect of the game are really good. Lots of my friends actually dropped the game once they realized crafting weapons took 12 hours

[@taylorgarrett793]

one thing i wish i hope they change is if ya reject a challange for her 2nd, it doesnt increase the cooldown of it so u could keep re rolling it for one ya like also found out that u can cast her 1st and 4th while wall latching, which should make doing that challange much easier

[@defiantmars9910]

Pretty interesting frame, I only got to use her in Duviri but it was a fascinating experience. I think her 2 decrees could be a bit more varied in the challenges, but altering the decrees and challenges available is an option for adjustment. I think there are some interesting potentials for augments as well. Neat frame. Now I return to farming Fate Pearls :)

[@lagartopunkarra]

Mine is still in the foundry being built, but I actually like the idea of "rolling dices" to make her abilities more effective, and the challenges to get decrees will mean that she'll always be interesting to play.

[@InfernoToph]

Slight correction at 8:15 - All of her abilities do get affected by the dice, while playing her last night I rolled low on her second ability and the challenge had an extra parameter, had to get kills BUT they had to be affected by toxin as they died for it to count, really cool frame but I wish the challenge was a hold cast and she had another ability tied to that button. Feels like her kit is almost entirely one and four. Really like her nonetheless.

[@JustSippingTea]

It doesn't help that you just can't recast her 3 ever unless you're under 5 charges left

[@UnknownRex]

using decrees, she is awesome for long runs. alright at beginner levels as well, but can sale far. Great for new, and veteran players! Well designed frame I think, since it is not OP at low levels, but fun, and has potential in late game if you want to scale her. Won't replace my existing favorite frames, but I wish she was a starter when I started playing.

[@bleepin]

Casting speed + Str is your friend with Koumei. Get her range to 145% and you're fine. Koumei is dangerously strong, 3rd ability aside. Her status spreads are lethal. A lot of creators here do not know what they're talking about honestly. Build her right and she is tons of fun, her 3 needs some tweaking, mainly the internal cooldown after a healing charm gets consumed, which really shouldn't be a thing. She is easily my favorite frame right now

[@nicktheninja3166]

To take koumei to the next level, try a heavy slam melee build. Especially with the new galvanised mods (coil and steel mostly), then add afflictions. Afflictions boost applies to any status on the target. So set ip your threads, and go wokong mode. I like the samptoes and exec mostly. Arca titron i use for influence, but doesn't have the same interaction as above. Coil is amazing, finally a mod to surpass corrupt charge

[@ZeroKitsunei]

I'm so torn about her. I love her design, but I wish she'd ramp up quicker. Though I am really glad to see DE do new interesting things. Only thing I can really think of is maybe a "stacked dice" augment mod? Where always roll a 4 or higher. I wouldn't want it to just make you roll 6's all the time, that would negate half the gimmick of her.

[@bait644]

She was certainly a surprise. When I first tried her out I couldn't help but feel she was weak and clunky and that any changes would likely be good changes. But either ironically or just expectedly, she got a night and day difference when she hits level 15+ When I first got her I naturally modded for strength and range with a little duration so that I could attempt to take her into mid-high level survival. When she was first used it was weak performance and what felt like slightly buggy behavior but after leaving that first mission she was rank 14 and on her next mission there was a sudden spike in her effectiveness that shocked me. I personally say, weird for sure but is good maybe great when you get comfortable or good at using her.

[@fluffdafire157]

I'm gonna use her for sure since I love rolling dice

[@AVerySadBanana]

Gamba frame goes brrr

[@mattydwow6862]

new mission/story for Koumei is sooo fun I really like it lot and first dice I got was two 6 which was think good luck or something , but all overall i enjoy this update and can t wait see rest for WF updates this year.

[@thatonepenguinperson618]

Personally, I'm really enjoying the gameplay loop of Koumei. I understand 100% why the RNG factor turns you away though. I think the fact that her focus on status effects reminds me of the Invoker archetype from Remnant 2 really made me enjoy her. Her second ability also got me to actually think about how to wall latch and kill things from the air in optimal ways which no other Warframe with normal movement has really made me do before. There's only 2 things I want which are a unique dodge roll, the normal one doesn't fit her, and more super bonuses for rolling certain number combinations (444, all dice even, all dice odd, 1-2-3-4-5)

[@jamesaditya5254]

As a seasoned gacha enjoyer it's always safe to assume you will never roll high, and celebrate whenever you do hit the jackpot. Took mine out for a first spin on Armatus SP and it's pretty fun, her S2 definitely feels underwhelming if you're not hoarding a bunch of decrees built over time but when I humor the idea of slapping other abilities over it for shorter missions, the rest of her kit doesn't feel like it's suited for that either. S4 cast animation is a little too long for my liking but it should be a great learning experience for new players that you can be locked into an animation. I think it would be cool if she gets an augment for her S1 that pulls back all deployed strings toward her to force more status procs, anything that makes it more proactive than hoping they run into it (which to be fair, happens a fair bit already)

[@thatonepenguinperson618]

I was really hesitant on replacing the 2 because I love gambling with gameplay mechanics, but gave it a shot. I made a second config with Sickening Pulse over her 2 and used the whole Mecha set with Contagious Bond... It's really hard to go back.

[@Grandsheba]

Ine ofnthe only times i actually love the RNG!! They did an amzing job making something that feels likes its more for the game than just the players. I feel like JJK Hakari and when i hit that jackpot it feels very rewarding. My only pick is, vets NEED a continuous high scaling mission type that just really pushes us with our builds. Loke Deep Archimedean but and endless run with all the steonger variantes and mini bosses. Can call its eternalism missions.

[@RichHimes-sd1nj]

Got the acquisition mission down to less than 5 minutes on Steel Path with random crews, Nova or Revenant for me were best 2 Novas I think was that absolute best. I liked Koumei a lot more than you did I think she'll be great for Defense Interception and Survival and better in groups than solo. Streamed for 8.5 hours yesterday hardest thing about the update was getting 3 Splendid Mergoo simply because I didn't know you are REQUIRED to use pheromones. but that's different story.

[@Nildread]

Frames like koumei and citrine that can proc corrosive (koumei more than citrine because I think she can do it without needing archon continuity) even if it's slow I still think 2 greens for full strip can be fine if you have a weapon that also does corrosive. Then you're not relying on only the abilities for it, but they can still help. I like it more than 2 greens on chroma. Though I guess you could do the same thing with him....I kind of forgot he has his breath weapon thing. Plus koumei has that corrosive shot decree

[@xnbk-yotiex5247]

While im not a fan of her… so far. I do like that DE went out of the box to try something new. This update was much needed and really awesome.

[@ragedkoala6158]

Shes cool. Excited to play her. Used to playing nyx and valk so playing bad frames for fashion isnt new to me lol

[@bonehead7711]

say sike right now

[@Vevvev8]

This comment cut into my soul lol. I played Nyx for her fashion to, and did everything I could to make her work out in normal play. The new Nova skin though, and her rework, has gotten me playing her again though. She's really fun now with an Antimatter Drop build.

[@adrianl8429]

Nyx is the rework I’m most excited for. Valkyr though…. I one shoot base SP with her claws. She’s not the best, having only 2 real abilities and all, but she is a solid melee frame.

[@ragedkoala6158]

@adrianl8429 tired of that sentiment honestly even if youre totally right lol. Doesnt mean she doesnt need a hell of a rework oberon and vauban can do good powerful things too. I do love the spinny claw builds tho

[@adrianl8429]

@@ragedkoala6158 Totally agree she needs a rework. She has a decent power level, but the design for her gameplay is kinda meh. Fun to be an immortal blender for 10 min every now and then though.

[@3thirtyDr3amz]

For anyone curious, the triple six is a 3.5% chance, so on average somewhere around 1/30 rolls (obviously RNG can screw you)

[@justagamethrower]

A dev said they're loaded dice and the probability of a triple 6 is around 11.5%

[@williambaldwin9487]

I did the math from when I farmed her out. On average, I got around 15 pearls per run, and each run took about 4 minutes (I used Gauss to speed through). You need a total of 432 pearls to both purchase all of her blueprints and craft said blueprints. Assuming you get 15 pearls per run and you complete each run in 4 minutes, you need 29 runs at just under 2 hours total.

[@GrotesqueSmurf]

Of course you must be extremely unlucky to not get her parts dropped way earlier than that.

[@JustSippingTea]

You also ran non steel path so you got less pearls than usual too

[@GrotesqueSmurf]

@@JustSippingTea steel path runs take noticibly longer for just a tiny bit more pearls.

[@ЖмыхПожиленко]

@@JustSippingTea Steel Path does nothing. It's not worth it to complete a mission 2 times longer due to immence tankiness of the boss to get only 1.5x pearls at most.

[@xlarkan]

@@ЖмыхПожиленко Saw people saying this in the discord as well, I don't get how a SP run that on average takes 4-5 min is long??

[@philip6557]

I’m hoping there’s a way to decrease the cooldown cap, guess I’ll find out when she finishes building since the wiki doesn’t show it yet

[@sinfulmourning2780]

Fun fact for anyone who hasn't tried her in the circuit yet, if you do get a degree you don't just get a random one but a choice of 3 as you normally would in the circuit

[@seamagician7042]

She ok. I love the design, sound design and the theme. Just the triple 6 is quite rare and I'd like her to do damage more than be a glorified nukor. Trying to figure out how to make my huras a killing machine. Not sure if the kubrow changes were enough if I'm honest. Considering they are single target for the most part, the claw stats are very conservative imo. Do still have to get and try some of the status mods(and a couple others) tho so hopefully there'll be something in there.

[@Sylv925]

I wish you could increase the effects of her dice rolls through strength more. I also wish her 3 didn’t have a hard cooldown of 3 seconds.

[@damrod]

I am a bit curious why you went with a reduction for efficiency as she is supposed to be a caster frame, even if you include the high energy regen that you mentioned.

[@TrueTwilightGrim]

Added thought, rolling all 6s on any ability should cast all abilites/ complete the decree challenge

[@digital-underworld]

I really like Koumei you can build her with high armor high health or you can go shield gate with rolling guard and she'll wreck Void Fissure SP Conjuction Survival with either build.

[@C.Carr01]

One thing I have noticed is that there is a maximum amount of threads created by her first ability, which I counted to be 24

[@damienhine1861]

From what I remember, Limbo and Excalibur Umbra also don't take long

[@giratinathe_distorter7480]

I was experimenting with subsumes on her on steel path shrine defense, and I gotta say I think the decrees are the slot if you’re going for stuff that’s more consistent, I messed around with breach surge and it did pretty good at ramping up the statuses

[@haydencox8006]

Just watching her animation is just so cute :3

[@jonni_2330]

you know it's bad when tactical potato says "it's an okay frame"

[@GravSh4rk]

Augment mod to add an addition Die would be neat

[@nomoredlc593]

koumei should have a meme interaction in case you roll 5 sixes like her first giving producing threads around her too her second giving her 3 decrees to all the ones in the squad her third converting damage nullified into a explosion and her fourth just lifting everything in a 360° radius and extended range

[@verandream6675]

I was always hoping for a frame based on gambling

[@Ralagathenovel]

3:06 I’m probably gonna like her because I do a lot of endurance, and I don’t mind a bit of randomness particularly when the benefit can be huge unlike with Xaku, I hated how the vest on time gives you evasion the benefit for invading and attack is nothing but the consequence for the Evasion failing is severe

[@RioManegos]

Koumei's concept reminds me of Nidus. She can become incredible with time, sure- But given the 120 second cooldown timer between decrees, and most missions being around 10-20 minutes, she'll be mostly wasted on most content in the game that isn't Endless. Of the endless types, she'll profit most on missions she isn't expected to defend something else, just herself- So, mostly just survivial.

[@TrueTwilightGrim]

Move the 2 cooldown to cast instead of on completion or drop max to 60sec or make cooldown effected by duration. 3 should make hit chance moddable. Maybe her 4 should apply crit as well to differentiate from her 1 more or have it add crit on 1 and 4 interactions. Abilities should be effected by crit too

[@EllaKarhu]

The max cooldown on 2 is probably fine, they just need to make it ramp up less with each cast so you can get more decrees out early without insane snowballing in endless runs. Also I kinda like cooldown on completion, it rewards skill instead of just giving you a decree at set intervals. But I guess having it on cast would be less stressful Idk what the point would be in making her abilities crit, it's not like they deal meaningful damage anyway. I mean I guess if you play normal star chart and build ability strength, but like, you can already do that. For steel path it would just give you some pretty yellow numbers to look at lmao

[@teknyon]

Add purple shard that increases ability damage against electrified enemies for bonus gambling

[@SenaMeushi]

I feel like she's incredibly strong, but I also maxed out range and went for Duration, completely sacrificing my Strength since she just doesn't scale well off it. Even in shorter missions, she outputs insane damage since her abilities prime everything for your CO weapons to nuke. I've mostly been running Ocucor on her and it's been a lot of fun. I really think running high Strength on her is just a trap. It's so much better to use those mod slots for utility/survivability.

[@bradleyjenkins2271]

Oh man we’re eating good this year guys!

[@rushobinnabi3684]

The cooldown on her 2 scaling from like 5s -> 10s ... up to a full on 150s is a bit of a letdown for me tbh. But great Koumei video, Tater.

[@Haru_no_ki]

Hope next patch they will make 24h across the board for all existing and new frames

[@liamcallaghan1937]

What was the strength mostly used for? I felt like going for a range build would be good for spreading her status effects through her 1 and 4 but it tanks your power strength so just wondering what the main purpose of high strength is?

[@internetcampbell2267]

I think she's an amazing frame in fact the only downside i have with koumei is that she doesn't play well in a squad but... if other players aren't happy about her kit then i wouldn't mind her getting a buff cause that just means more fun 4 me lol.

[@vnmbeastwolf8741]

Can you drop that fashion frame? Cuz I like the colors you have on her

[@DarkSaitama]

When I heard the description of the 4th all I thought these is a long run frame, but then when they made it basically an early player frame didn't make sense to me, you ain't getting the best of her on a regular mission you need to go for long, not sure if when you are on open world the decrees stay forever because that would be another way to cranck it up for her just farming non stop becoming super OP

[@patricksteinsen1147]

I haven't watched your vids in years so I would like to know what's up with the mod config names that you have here

[@deathlake1]

Still coming back for the content

[@Bezijenkins]

Did an hour run with her myself. 1 forma and much weaker weapons, same arcanes. She felt ... Weak. And the randomness wasn't even the problem, or maybe it was. Her 1st ability feels very underwhelming. At times it works amazing, crowd control and CO enabler, others I see enemies with no statuses just stand there. The 4th ability felt more like what the 1st ability should have been, because if feels a lot more consistent. The omamori are great idea, but they are a 50/50, without applying to allies, and not providing anything else then a chance at healing the damage you took. If they also mitigated statues and applies to allies, that would make the 50/50 nature bearable. The best part of her kit are the decrees. Some of them get kind of silly, like "kill 45 enemies while sliding" - it's doable, but I had 3+ hour survivals where I would get less than that. Overall, she is not useless, but she falls into the "dagath,kullervo,wukong,yateli,sevagoth,qorvex,nidus" camp of frames. Frames that contribute just enough to the team to say they exist, but I'd rather have a nova or citrine.

[@matthewmohri9990]

I couldn't see any reason why you'd want to switch her Kit out as they pretty much depend on each other. It would like crippling her for a very niche mission where the replaced ability might work.

[@danielboyd7810]

So playing this frame is like turning warframe into a rogue lite. Cool idea but i feel like they should add a mechanic to "load the die" so you have agency in how she plays over the course of a mission.

[@mrezu6653]

It be kinda cool if they made a special affect for rolling five sixes. The odds are abismal but still, funny.

[@damienhine1861]

How about this for an augment: Loaded Dice: With each decree, Koumei gains 5% more likely to roll triple 6s.

[@shigaraja]

I think basing her around a game mechanic that literally changes the game may have been a bad move. Decrees are literally designed to carry even bad builds through higher end content. But that mechanic made sense for a rougelite gamemode. Now what i want to know is the spawning of the threads. Ive had instances of casting once and then again, and the first cast completely disappeared. And other time where like half the treads of the first cast stuck around. But i cant seem to find any consistency on how to maximize the area covered.

[@zinogretw]

how is her subsumable ability on other frames? does it have dice rolls as well?

[@TacticalPotato]

No dice roll on subsume

[@zenerstorm95]

Literally the only thing I don't like about her is how infrequent triple sixes actually are. I'd honestly hope for an augment for her in the far future where for like every 10 rolls is a guaranteed triple sixes, but nerfs something else in some way

[@thedoomslayer5863]

Koumei just needs some tweaks and buffs imo. Decree challenge times take too long (seriously DE nearly THREE minutes?!) it already doesn't do much in short to medium length missions but that cool down only makes it worse on said missions. The cooldown is not very relevant in very long endurance missions. So it fails as any kind of stop gap. Her 1 is kind of overshadowed by her 4 doing basically the sams thing with the status priming but it also has CC and can go in a 360. Also the 1 breaks when you use max range. It will show the strings initially but the ones closest to you vanish then they only show much further away. It works fine up to a certain range then it does this. Power strength should be able to influence dice roll chance. DE can make it take a lot of it but at least have it do something so we have that option as stats besides range barely do much for her. Her 3 can be gamed by falling off the map as it resets your stacks allowing you to cast it again and again until you get the invincibility. That aside the 3 should not have a cool down between when it kicks in or not. Let it keeo protecting you until it is out of stacks then recast. Its a chance to do it anyway so why does it also need a cool down ontop. Her 4 is her least buggy, and well done ability. CCs, primes, can get some nasty range it's great. Only weakness it has is being unable to effect targets immune to CC. That is the only time her 1 has any real place in the kit. To do what the 4 does with priming but to a CC immune target. The 1 should linger much longer and enemies should take both damage and suffer even more status as they move through the web and it should slow them while doing so. I'd also make it a circle rather than a line so you can also put it on defense objectives. Her passive is fine. If they wanted to buff that they could make it always affect all three of her weapons but idk if that would be "too op". As someone who has been playing a unhealthy amount of koumei as she is one of the most fun frames i have ever played, this is what I'd do to make her better.

[@diGritz1]

Dam.... Been out for a couple years. I might have to jump back in. This kinda made me miss those ridiculously long survivals. And frames that require some thought to use.

[@shadowshedinja6124]

Koumei does have a short craft time, but Limbo is significantly faster at 1 minute for each part.

[@moosedraw3731]

Her 3 feels like the best one to change. Yes, it’s a good survival ability. But adaptation, plus some good decrees makes it unnecessary imo. Swap that out for stuff like nourish for the extra energy regen will let you spam more abilities. I’m very much in love with her scaling because that’s always the best type of frame. She’s very good.

[@MarkoBotsaris]

We don’t have a Wabbajack, but at least now we have a Wabbajack frame. I just wish some of the charms turned you into a kubro or changed your weapon to a Stug for 30 seconds, or something. I think it was Albert Einstein that said “pure randomness with no laughing doesn’t really sound like a great Saturday night”. 😂

[@Jiiinxyyy]

She's definitely fun, I'll have to play her more but she just feels a little too inconsistent to be a frame that'd I'd play a lot. I think just a few tweaks would make her feel better to play but that's just me

[@Ralagathenovel]

10:35 if she can outclass Octavia in these next few days I would main her but I do love this warfare

[@daveguzman4595]

shes so strong, a true endgame frame so far.

[@sallyostling]

Procking her decrees (the challenges) can be annoying. What if I don't want to wall latch half the mission??

[@wormer104]

I love her! She can get it.

[@Did_No_Wrong]

Just tried her outmyself, christ she is a solid warframe. Fun to play and a kit of abilities that work insanely well with each other she is probably gonna be my favorite crowd control warframe to use now

[@anthall1768]

Koumei is the embodiment of Warframe's RNG as a Warframe.

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

I do tend to like her with archon mods and her 4 is lovely

[@VexTrooper]

I like her design and 3/4 of her abilities. Her 2nd Ability (the one that gives her decrees for doing a random challenge), is a bit of the odd one that I don't like. Mainly because the challenges offered can either be doable, easy, or just ridiculous. Like one of them said to eliminate 50 enemies while Airborne, all while my energy gets drained....that's not cool at all :/

[@finleymorris04]

How the hell did they miss the idea of having a power where the number on the dice roll is added to your weapon’s base damage?

[@Stingerburn]

I really hope they add a way to reduce the cd of her decrees.

[@CashewChickenEnjoyer]

Koumei is fun.. I just wish her subsume was her decree ability. Would it be powerful? Yeah absolutely. Diminish it with a doubled cooldown for one. For two.. Subsume roar, eclipse, gloom, etc etc.. already exist. I just want to put it on my excalibur so I can get the funny melee build while mindlessly mowing through enemies on long-form mission types.

[@thatonepenguinperson618]

Her decree ability being the subsume would be insanely fun, but also extremely OP and probably become the meta for Endurance runs. To balance it, they shouldn't increase the cooldown, but instead just remove the chance of getting a rare decree and make it so you can't get the same decree twice (decrees cannot become stronger). Also remove rare decrees from their pool. For Koumei specifically, her 2nd ability should allow power strength to affect the chances of her getting a rare mod (200% power strength = 15% -> 30%)