Warframe's "The Second Dream" is the best quest in gaming

[@LegendaryDrops]

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[@Jukantos]

You know it's a hype feeling to *know* there are some EVEN BETTER quests still waiting to be experienced by you

[@Bill_DeBerry]

@@Jukantos Duviri paradox and Angels of the Zariman comes to mind, giving more backstory into the past and abilities of the Tenno. And then ranking up with the Holdfasts and learning their story and the implications of how they assisted in your past, truly exceptional writing. I would love to experience all of those stories for the first time again, just the sheer scope of what's going on blew me away when I first played.

[@GlitchTheCyberFox]

Now that you’ve done the second dream, wait until the new war

[@the_gaming_falcon]

Yo could anyone tell me what status effect I should use on my Melee weapon, it currently has (corrosive And blast) But I can switch it to (Viral And radiation), should I keep it as is or change the modes for "viral and radiation"?

[@Jukantos]

@@the_gaming_falcon depends on what you're trying to do, Corrosive + Heat stacks armor stripping effects, making it nice vs armored enemies. Radiation + Cold offers crowd control and increased crit damage vs really high level targets Blast + Toxin is technically pretty good vs shielded enemies like Corpus, but straightup Magnetic might be better If you wish to amplify lots of raw damage with a bit of armor strip vs i.E. infested i'd go with Viral + Heat HOWEVER as announced in the last devstream the next major update in mid-june will change all damage types to be best against specific enemy factions and even show you on the map what combo to bring where. So i'd wait for that and then adjust my builds accordingly

[@azazelmumford2465]

"staring into the void and it stared back" sounding real ironic now isn't it...

[@msmcl71]

And it’ll get better

[@ihavegun]

We had a deal, the deal was shook A little handshake, all it took But from the deal, the wee child ran Yet still... *WE END AS WE BEGAN!!*

[@godzelda123]

Rap...tap...tap

[@spiderenigma2803]

@@ihavegun this is why i love this community

[@alefnull]

hey kiddo

[@_oe_o_e_]

I love it. 11 years of this game. 9 years since The Second Dream released, and someone is always coming across it, experiencing it for the first time, and the community always stopping what their doing to witness it.

[@TheFuriousBrother]

And even more importantly, nobody spoils it because it's so good to experience oneself!

[@ryanplante9551]

Think that's one of the best things about warframe veterans we know the story is so good but it's like our like secret in the gaming world we don't spoil for new players. We just nug them along till they experience it for themselves.

[@alexpivniouk8421]

@@TheFuriousBrother Facts. I have gotten all of my friends into warframe and the only spoiler I've given them is emoting with the operator lol

[@cdmalcolm2524]

11 years in to. Warframe update 7 when I jumped in. I don’t play that much anymore, but when I go back to play, I always enjoy it. Still sooo much content to unlock.

[@SaintKB]

​@@TheFuriousBrotherzzzzzzzzz

[@Zawaito]

I love when a game's campaign starts later on. It feels like i'm am someone before the story. That i stumble upon something big rather than being born into it

[@Netist_]

This is exactly why Warframe's story works so well, in my opinion. If a game bombards me with stakes and conflict right off the bat (as so many love to do) it can be hard to get invested. I don't know this world or these people. I can certainly pretend, suspend my disbelief and try to fake it until I make it. And that often works. But a lot of the time it doesn't. Warframe's story doesn't start until you're 50-100 hours into the game. By that point, you don't need to be convinced. You're already invested. You already have an understanding of the world, it's people, and where you fit into that. So when the story presents you with gravity, you *just get it*.

[@Zawaito]

@@Netist_ now imagine how it was for people who started playing before the second dream launched. Was like that but to the power of 100 But really, the only stakes warframe presents at the start are your owns. You're doing what you must to survive and escape, there is no "save this npc" type of storyline until waaay later on. I love it

[@nicholasavicolli8944]

@@Zawaito I started in the open beta. So after playing a game off and on for almost 4 years I suddenly found myself in that quest. It was definitely a moment you never forget.

[@juanjox2006]

@@Zawaito started in 2013, got away some years, then got into warframe circa 2015 again and let me tell you ... that was a shocker, been playing the game on and off since then because of time issues, but after second dream i just got 100% invested into it

[@cirescythe]

Absolutely. Well put.

[@Zawaito]

Also, "this is what you are" is the perfect name for the perfect soundtrack

[@godzelda123]

On top of being a perfect soundtrack

[@Starhiveart]

I literally have this song playing nonstop in my orbiter for the last 4k hours lol

[@andyh2783]

@@Starhiveart how do you do that dude??

[@Starhiveart]

@andyh2783 go to your personal room and select the mandachord then turn off whatever music you dont want to play. In this case i turned off everything but "this is what you are"

[@slogary4790]

@@Starhiveart you can loop only the one music being played, too

[@IdealistTCO]

Congrats on completing the tutorial. Welcome to the "starter village" Tenno...

[@beeman4266]

Damn.. I mainly Destiny but I've been playing warframe intermittently, I just finished deimos lol. Guess I've barely started.

[@andyh2783]

​@beeman4266 hope your journey is still going man.....and yes you've only found the tip of the ship killer iceberg lol

[@SIC-zh3bl]

​@beeman4266 some advice for ya, as a former d2 player. Quit destiny and full on warframe(if you like it). After two pre ordered dlcs on destiny and 1,000 hours, i quit and re upped my warframe playing, its been so worth it. I've spent all of 5 dollars on warframe after 200 hours, with easily thousands of hours of content still to be discovered. That, and balancing multiple live service games is either a job or pick and choose.

[@straydog9672]

​@@SIC-zh3bl4,000 hrs and multi dlc-like expansion in destiny 2, I wish I never played it.

[@rgabi91]

Everyones jaw dropped on release. The Tenno was a secret till release. It was special moment in WF for real.

[@NickHunter]

I still watch the vod of Brozime getting to the reveal and absolutely losing his shit :D Most of all I have so much respect for the community for having an almost holy devotion to not spoiling it for other players. That says so much about how much it means

[@rgabi91]

@@NickHunter Ye. It was super taboo to spoil anyting for like a month. Man... It was 8 years ago...I feel old all of a sudden. >_>

[@aaronvandenberg2416]

@@NickHunter Yeah even today if Im on a mission with low MR players I avoid a certain mode so as not to give it away.

[@KiillahX]

ohh bro brain melted when we first learned part 1 of our Tenno power. Used to feel badass activating it every time transference was full. Then after another 2-3 years we unlock our full power.

[@Grantedtoast]

@@rgabi91 I still is, operator is referred to as spoiler mode on Reddit/ Forums to this day.

[@yeetyiu4505]

Oooh boy, i'just tell you one thing "Rap,tap,tap"

[@Cybermaul]

Hey, kiddo.

[@trinityx3o522]

"Early lunch for Konzu"

[@newtz.]

@@trinityx3o522 swas do lah stranger!

[@crimsonkarma13]

@@Cybermaul saw him yesterday

[@aaronvandenberg2416]

Must play that one in the dark

[@Tcuczikeh]

Wait till he finds out about The Sacrifice, my man will cry rivers

[@shanguish6553]

Best quest frr

[@aquifer9480]

Came hyped for the new warframe, left in tears.

[@ertzui4468]

why did i read it as "will cry rivens" 😭

[@Jukantos]

"I was half expecting a title screen to show up saying WELCOME TO WARFRAME" Oh boy that sure is some very quotable excerpt...

[@digibeastgaming2814]

Lmao coaching some friends into WF right now and i say that everytime they discover/ask about a new system they just stumbled into, the tutorials never stop

[@Jukantos]

@@digibeastgaming2814 It's gonna be so beyond hype when he gets to The New War :>

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@digibeastgaming2814 Coaching is probably the right word for it. You need to acfively and diligently guide new players through their troubles, sometimes even motivating them to do stuff that is needed in the game. Even a few small additions like having a few introductionary quests where you are tasked to buy a weapon from the shop and do a specific quest or challenge with it could help, then doing the same for a Warframe. All can teach you the basics of the marketplace, the arsenal and the mod station, as well as introduce you to the various resources that you can just gather as a 'quest' to show the process of getting something for your foundry and crafting a weapon or frame. Also, having a few 'introductionary' quests to ease yourself into the questing station and making sure you will keep that part of the game trucking along as well as the star chart, will help quite a bit. (as most people seem to intuitively understand the star chart and unlocking its nodes)

[@Raionhardt]

Shout out to Keith Power carrying DE with his beautiful music

[@AliasSchmalias]

In my opinion, no one in particular is carrying it because everyone is doing an outstanding job. Be it the music, the storyline, the characters and their voice actors. And everything for free and without the pay-to-win principle. I don't know of any game developer who has done this so successfully and I wish more would try.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

The new composer is also fire!

[@UNSCPILOT]

"We all lift together" is the anthem of DE themselves

[@Zawaito]

I also love how the community talks about the second dream Is like there is something going on just around the corner. A truth you couldnt hear at first, and that you know, once you heard it, there is no going back

[@Desdemona-XI]

Second dream is sacred ground, spoilers are highest heresy. Because theres no moment ive ever found in gaming like it.

[@phoenixx913]

First rule about the 2nd dream is that we don't talk about the 2nd dream lol.

[@ministerjlupine]

💯 profound statement indubitably.

[@rahava]

I love how everyone who gets into making videos about warframe always eventually makes this video. Testament to what a great moment of gaming it is

[@dekappatated73]

I played the game before The Second Dream came out. When that quest dropped on us, I was still a teenager. Aint gonna lie, that experience was profound. Back then, this was my biggest moment in gaming. Everytime I see someone play through, my emotions flare back up. What a phenomenon.

[@abogmus8904]

i didn't get the pleasure of experiencing pre-second dream warframe. how much of a "wow" effect did it have for the players at the time? how monumental and important was the second dream for the future of warframe?

[@Navet4ever]

@@abogmus8904 I cant speak for everyone, but i had played the game for around 900ish hours when the second dream came out, and never once had i asked the questions that The Second Dream answered. It changed everything, i became interested in the lore, the scenery suddenly became interesting, every small tidbit of information was golden, the quest answered some questions, but posed so many more and at the time we didn't get anything to further the story for a long while. It's hard to talk about without spoiling anything, the very idea of spoiling this quest is horrible, so vague wishy washy answers is what you'll get.

[@Beefercow]

​@@abogmus8904It was like falling in love with someone even more after getting to know them better after years, except completely by surprise. Second Dream on release was what made me realize that this game was way more than what I thought of it, and has become my most played game since.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

Yes I also played way before the Second Dream was a thing. And when it dropped it turned into the first time I actually had watery eyes because of a game.

[@ComotoseOnAnime]

@@abogmus8904 I started playing around July of 2014, update... 14? 15? I think , just a few weeks before Mirage and Cryotic Front dropped. Back then there was a stamina bar, parkour was drastically different, there was no Bullet Jumping, you got around by jumping and abusing a bug in the slide melee (also known as coptering) that would basically throw you through the air like a... well helicopter. It didn't help that one of the 3-4 primary weapons to use do this with was the Tipedo, which is a polearm with a flat, shovel-like head on either end so you legit started looking like a helicopter after a certain speed. And because this was a bug, you'd often get thrown into a wall with momentum (Also known as wall hugging or just 'getting stuck') where you're basically velcro'd to a piece of the terrain till the momentum told you to stop moving and dropped you back to the ground, so people got really good judging distances with coptering to the point you could basically clear a capture mission about as fast as modern Titania. To put that into perspective my current record for fastest capture mission is like 33 seconds. It literally takes me longer to load into a mission sometimes than it takes to clear it. But enough reminiscing about the fun that was coptering, back to the meat of things. By the time the Second Dream came out it's december 2015, I probably had... 800-900 hours in the game, maybe a bit more or less it's been nearly a decade now hard to remember that. But what I do remember, is spending long hours with my then girlfriend (who I *met* on Warframe I need to stress that, so that's also a reason this quest is important to me. She's an ex now though, unfortunate circumstances, not important.), there had been little nuggets of information in the game that talked about what the Second Dream covers for over a year at that point, if not longer and people often wondered what they meant. Then the Second Dream comes out, and I play it with my ex. We were in a call together, talking about what we were doing, we both entered *That scene* at the same time, listened to it at the same time, and had *All* of our preconceived notions and theories about the nature of Warframes and what exactly we were, shattered in an instant. We'd joked about what we actually were a few times but we never really gave it much weight until the Second Dream confirmed the least plausible of our theories in the most unexpected way. I remember vividly the scene, walking into the Reservoir and the cutscene taking place. I remember vividly the scene that follows. I remember *Vividly* the static and the rush at not knowing what was happening next, genuinely unsure about the game for the first time in hundreds of hours and half a year of gameplay. Then the crawling, the touch, then the *Music*. I cannot hype and fellate Keith Power's musical score enough in that moment. It turned a very good scene into a *great* scene that gave me goosebumps and it is one of the very, VERY few moments in a game that has made me cry. It is a release of endorphins and euphoria I haven't experienced in a game since then. A few games have come close with unexpected WHAM moments that hit you in your heart like the passing of a character at a pivotal point in a game (Too many to count and no spoilers), or a realization after the fact that you've done something horrible (Spec Ops: The line, Undertale), those genuinely shocked me yes but those mostly made me rethink my actions when it comes to video games. Warframe's Second Dream, made me rethink what it means to be... me? Because I spent hundreds of hours immersing myself into a role, only to have that role *drastically* changed, like a rug pulled out from under me. I immediately wanted to know more, I wanted more of the story, the lore, the *World*. I looked at the world of Warframe differently after that, in a way I hadn't expected. It was the first time I felt like I was a resident *Of* the world rather than being a character *In* that world. Nearly 10 years later and 8.5k hours in the game, I can say I'm in it for the long haul. 10/10, gud gam. Though I *will* say that my experience and the experiences of the veteran playerbase that was around before the Second Dream dropped are going to be vastly different to a newer player. The playerbase keeps spoilers to a minimum but what you are gets paraded around often enough in the promotional artwork and trailers, or people in missions tend to go into *that* mode, so newer players might get an inkling of what they are before then. And then there's the issue of investment. I spent a year and a half and a thousand hours of my life getting invested, a new player if they're not shy about rushing things in the foundry and are dedicated, lucky or have non-spoilery help, can get to the Second Dream in less than a week. They are obviously not going to have the same experience I did. Even those that are 100-150 hours into the game at a leisurely pace are not going to have the same, nigh life altering experience I did. And that's a damn shame.

[@nebulastar3087]

I was a kid when this quest dropped, now I'm a grown ass adult and it still rates as one of THE gaming moments I've ever experienced. Glad to know it still has that effect for new playes.

[@Stevfante]

Gotta replay it sometimes

[@lolman946]

One of us, One Of Us, ONE OF US! 😊

[@БОМБАСТИЧЕН]

One of us, One Of Us, ONE OF US!

[@GypsyDanger2000]

One of us One of us One of us

[@jacobhollick985]

One of us, one of us, ONE OF US 😁😁🤘🤘!

[@arkinchaos7672]

One of us one of us one of us

[@drifter1777]

One of us, one of us, one of us.

[@RaviVemula2]

As someone who has been playing Warframe since closed beta, watching this game and studio grow, mature, expand, and really push its creative boundaries has been an absolute wonder and treasure! I remember when we were all guessing at the lore of Warframe when we eventually started getting small quest lines and bits and pieces, the community's anticipation and excitement to learning more... And then the Second Dream hit. Exploding this game forward into a whole new era of story telling, direction, and leaving the community both in awe, satisfied, and yet so hungry for more. Love DE and love this game. It really goes to show you how important the second dream is that the KZbin/twitch community absolutely REFUSES to let creators know what's coming because it's just that important

[@piedpiper1185]

The Second Dream is the quest that takes Warframe from a fun game about ninjas in space to a Sci-Fi Mystery Thriller epic

[@wraith3920]

Every veteran Warframe player that made it to the second dream has the same code of not spoiling the second dream for other players. It’s that moment in gaming that we wish we could all feel again.

[@MissGreenTeaLady]

As a new player, I really appreciate it. The quest absolutely would not have been as impactful otherwise.

[@onceonly1111]

11:04 - I was a founder for this game, my starter frame was Loki, people would use 'zoren copter' because there was no bullet jump. Before the Second Dream quest existed, people in the community would share theories about the origins of their different Warframe characters. When DE released this quest and people played it for the first time it was absolutely the most mind blowing thing, and much like you mentioned with finding the Master Sword in OOT, it was like we had suddenly found an entirely new game. It was also a similar experience when DE released the first open world zone with ongoing bounty missions. You could just keep on playing and never had to leave. It made me think of MGSV and I started using sniper rifles all the time.

[@thegrouchization]

For all its bizarre aesthetics and brutal ultraviolence, Warframe is one of the most _human_ games I've ever experienced. It's really something special, and I look forward to witnessing your further adventures in this weird and wonderful world.

[@seanfox4551]

Thank you for not spoiling it, you are correct in that this game/developers are special. So is it's player base, we love when new players finally get it.

[@christophernoell5210]

As a veteran player of Warframe for over a decade I’ll say it once I’ll say it again, Warframe is one of the best if not the best F2P games on the market right now with microtransactions not being a huge issue and yes does DE have problems with releasing content yes but do they deliver with that content absolutely. I love Warframe so much that games like destiny 2 leave me coming back for more Warframe and wanting to play it a lot more and enjoy it

[@alexanderson4497]

I finally hit MR30 after years of playing, bought my MR30 pin from the store to celebrate. There's just no other game like it to be honest, all the obtuseness and frustrations pale in comparison to the fond memories I have playing this game through good and bad moments in my life. At my lowest Warframe was there as a familiar comfort that didn't ask me for anything other than my time and I will forever appreciate it for it.

[@macsucktwice]

Congrats on the pin. Working on getting a second pin with an alt hope they let me lol.

[@PERSONAfan01]

I'm looking at my pin now. It kind of crazy that there's something like this at all. "Hey here's merchandise you can only buy once per account and you have to more or less earn the ability to buy it." It funny in a way but man do i love it.

[@pawezotowski115]

I have over 400 hours in this game and this is the first time I hear about the pin. I want it and I love the idea of earning it

[@alexanderson4497]

@pawezotowski115 You have to be MR 30 to purchase it, it's available on their store on their website for the game.

[@pawezotowski115]

@@alexanderson4497 I mean I'm pushing even more to mr 30. I love the idea that you need to unlock it

[@garrettvenn9022]

I dont remember how far into the game I was when I completed The Second Dream, but I remember the moment. I was playing the game with my two friends over Discord, and when the big moment happens, I was just in shock; and one of my friends said "Congrats on finishing the tutorial." There are so few moments in gaming like that. Warframe is truly special. It's a shining beacon of how good something can be amidst this landscape of "modern gaming". Wake up, Tenno.

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

I honestly love how the Second Dream rewards your patience. Yes it can take MANY hours to get to it. But once you do it’s an unforgettable experience.

[@giopde1ste]

I was there live and its great to hear your fully formed opinion! I'm also very happy that you did mention that first player experience part cause I still think its very important. Its also great fun to see a new fellow Tenno come to that realization of "Oh, that was the tutorial"

[@Andicus]

The Second Dream, and the War Within... I think it would be safe to say that without these quests Warframe wouldn't exist today. At least not on the scale it exists today. They single-handedly made Warframe _truly_ great. It turned Warframe from a game.. to an experience. When a game becomes an experience, that's when it becomes a work of art and a cherished memory. (Also, imagine how blown away and hype it was with there being so many theories regarding the lore and what "we" were. I'd recommend reading codex entries of some of the first prime warframes. Mag Prime, Ember Prime, Rhino Prime. It's all people had to go off of before the insane reveal.)

[@Andicus]

I'm pretty sure if you asked any Warframe veteran their favorite soundtrack.. "This Is What You Are" is right up there in top 5 minimum. For most, #1. Straight chills. Its name, the meaning, the timing...

[@avsbes98]

@@Andicus I would actually argue that it's evidence of the incredible quality of Warframe's OST (i think mostly, but not exclusively Keith Power's work?), that despite how good This Is What You Are is and how important the moment in the story is, it's still just one of the contenders, with multiple other contenders for best track existing next to it. It shows that while Warframe reached new heights with the Second Dream, it didn't peak there. It doesn't fall of after that.

[@Andicus]

@@avsbes98 Oh definitely. I'm not really trying to say that this specific soundtrack is simply the best soundtrack in the game. It's definitely good, but I don't know if there's any single best soundtrack. There are so many outstanding soundtracks and everything related to sound and music in Warframe is outstanding. I just thought that the soundtrack (mixed in with the meaning and sentimental value it holds), makes it a personal favorite for many. At least for me, it's one of the core soundtracks that I think of when I hear Warframe.

[@SavageEcaterina]

Remember Tenno never stop playing. We just fall back into sleep. This is how I see defense missions, we are protecting those of us who are still asleep waiting for their return.

[@nahuelferreyra]

Congratulations, you earned the right to create your character, now the real tutorial starts, good luck.

[@Texascowboy68]

“The second dream” and “the sacrifice” are two of my favorite quests in Warframe they are just so good.

[@chloedarbyshire-brown2938]

the 2nd dream was so transformative for me. The music "what you are" still gives me a deep longing and powerful resurgence every time i hear it. I dont play WF as much as I used to but the experiences your discussing and then going from that into the content that follows truly changed everything in the game for me. I place the story telling up there with some of the greatest dark sci-fi of the last fifty years. Digital Extremes sould be praised and placed on a pedestal for what they did with those arcs. in my opinion anyway.

[@Tobbs96]

I can't properly explain to those who didn't experience it, what an absolute mind-blowing the Second Dream was to those who had already played Warframe for years at that point. Incredible writing, incredible quest.

[@uh-ooooh]

I am so happy seeing you go through that incredible quest we went through many many years ago when it was released :,) When my friends and I played that quest, we immediately just thought "yeah... these devs have a vision and passion. This is going to be a really special game isn't it?" So many years after that, and it transformed into ways we couldn't even believe Warframe was capable of doing. The devs have insane passion.

[@thelsdpomegranate2772]

In your earlier videos you described the moments that hook you into a game: this was it for me. When I started warframe, fortuna, deimos, all those things that hooked you didn't exist yet. I'm stoked to hear that those heavy hits are coming earlier.

[@BiancaRoughFin]

I started playing Warframe back in 2013, the Second Dream quest only came out 2 years later, it fell on me like a bomb, it rocked me to my core and i finished the quest in tears with the lore and revelations it brought. For months after whenever i went into my Operator's room, the music would bring me back memories of the quest and would get me teary again.

[@MissGreenTeaLady]

I just played The Second Dream a few nights ago. The community did such a good job of keeping it a secret. My spoiler-free experience: My friend insisted on watching me play the quest. The pieces started to come together in my mind and suddenly, when it all made sense, the tears came. I didn't even know why. The music, the realization, the incredible storytelling...it ended in me staring at my screen and crying. The only other games that have done that to me are Mass Effect and Life is Strange.

[@MissGreenTeaLady]

I will also say that I agree with the decision to put The Second Dream at 50+ hours into the game. I don't think it would have been as impactful early on. I can't say why without spoilers, but the first part of the game actually made me attached to my character. And that's what made the quest matter.

[@ChrisTanner1983]

Hear, hear! I hope you continue and experience the later story quests as well. Personally, my favorite is Chains of Harrow, for personal reasons that I won't discuss due to spoilers. Rest assured that DE really touches on some fantastic narrative and emotional points, that are explored in later quests as well.

[@DistortedNebula]

By gods you're going to cry tears of joy when you get to the new war

[@knicklichtjedi]

Almost 15mins of gushing about Warframe and you just got started! I am 200% ready to watch you play the War Within. Even the simpler Railjack quest was a lot of fun to experience again with you!

[@morganboes7641]

Hunhow has one of the best villain voices I've ever heard in a video game.

[@jacobwineteer]

yo, im one of the first to buy into this games monetization system, a founder. over the years ive put in a couple thousand into just this one game, over 3000 hours on the steam hours played counter, and must be over a decade in now. this game was one of the largest pieces of my 20s, still the most memorable. it warms my heart to see you just starting out on this adventure. being able to fly through so many years of content so quickly must be grand. welcome to Warframe

[@brunocontreras2891]

Every now and then, I think: "I wish I could forget Warframe's real campaign and discover it all again for the first time"

[@NinjaMaster23145]

Congrats on beating the tutorial man but really it only gets better from here. Quests like the Sacrifice and Whispers in the Walls are genuine masterpieces of storytelling and up there with stuff like A Song of Ice and Fire, Arcane, and Attack on Titan for me

[@canadiangoose1451]

I remember thinking that I was getting close to the final planets and that I was almost done the story part of the game but got flipped upside down by the second dream quest. The second dream was the point where the game showed its true depth and I’m so glad I decided to play it

[@4X10S]

The rest of quests are just as good. My fav is The Sacrifice and Chains of Harrow, those are overwhelmingly emotional.

[@brinsonopinion]

Chains of Harrow broke my heart.

[@elained.8240]

1:33 THIS MAN, HE GETS ME ❤❤❤ You highlight so well that magical feeling we're all still chasing, hoping to find it every time we boot up a new game we're excited for. Man, I can't believe you sucked me back into Warframe. I had no intention of playing it again and now I'm planning to run The Circuit with my old friend. Damn you, LD!

[@jonathanweeds]

Second dream throws everything out the window and honestly the ones past it add so much more

[@NoahLoydOG]

Now, just imagine what this was like for those of us who had been with the game since it first took on play-testers from outside the studio, watching, playing, and growing alongside the game for two years before the Second Dream was even added to the game. That's an experience I'll never forget. Putting a hundred hours into the game these days to get there, yeah, that's pretty special. But man, putting several years into the war before that quest finally comes in to tie up some loose ends that have been getting looser and looser in your head over time... I wish there was some way to condense and share the feeling us old salts had when we first played the Second Dream. I don't imagine it can ever feel quite like that to anyone who joined after the quest already existed in the game (only waiting to be discovered), and I wish that feeling was something I could show or share somehow.

[@hallelion]

I'm glad that you soldiered on until The Second Dream quest. I agree that there's a need for some pointing directions, if not hand-holding. I'm even more glad that you embraced this placement of the quest within a "player investment" layer. Aside from preserving its history (being that it was introduced some years after its Open Beta launch), it adds a level of excitement. I hope you continue to soldier on with the Main Story Quests (the next one after The Second Dream is The War Within)

[@TheRykoo]

I came here just to agree with the title. I thought the same thing. Now imagine having played from the beta days when the end spoiler of the second dream was just an itch in the back of every tenno's mind. We were all just warframes back then... until THIS happened. Good videos by the way! Started watching them the other day and love the fact you named this title so!

[@xcission8304]

So fun watching this journey

[@necrus1401]

Been gone for years, but you got me back in my lander. The second dream shook me when it came out. It's so great to know it's standing the test of time

[@maxximuxx520]

As a 2013 WF vet with 7200 hours in the game, I love seeing new people find this game. It's rough at first, like a piece of coal, but if you endure it, you'll find the gem that hides behind it. It brings me joy to see people enjoying this game. a game that I cherish so dearly, and trust me, it will get better and better have fun and stay strong tenno

[@MaxiumPower]

I am early woah! As a player of warframe from 5 years, this game is like a flower blooming more and more with each update.... its such a beauty so see it shift~ and how DE continues to try pushing forward...is it perfect...no but it is trying to still grow and add more to this day, to evolve itself.

[@chloedarbyshire-brown2938]

a blooming..... Lotus? :D

[@realslimshady9918]

The Second Dream was the first time I realized that Warframe could be a serious game. Up until that point you are "funny ninja man in space". The Second Dream actually makes you stop and contemplate the little bits of lore that we knew up until that point. But where I think Warframe shines is with The Sacrifice. That quest emotionally destroyed me in the most beautiful of ways.

[@matt_the_schu]

Been playing this game on and off since 2013, happy to still see people take the warframe-pill all these years later

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

Played Warframe for years prior to the release of this quest. To say nobody saw that coming would be to say nothing. Every person at the studio kept it absolute top secret till the moment it dropped. And players kept it spoiler free for days and even weeks in some groups, to the best of a random internet crowd's ability. I have never seen any other game's community so united, and excited. All the stars aligned to make this release truly something very special, and unique. And DE, knowing full well what they were doing wrote this absolute mother of all epic themes and inserted it at the emotional peak of the whole thing. People wept, like little kids. It was beautiful.

[@AxleDoomrod]

For the new player experience, they need a small quest, per planet, that relates to the boss there. A purpose to be clearing the star chart and grouding the plater in the world, even if they don't understand it.

[@pabloc4204]

yeah, smaller arcs that add even more personality to the world that constantly hints more and more towards the existence of Second Dream.

[@AxleDoomrod]

@pabloc4204 even if it had nothing to do with second dream. Just something tell me why im going after the Jackal, or the Sergeant. Something to make the world's feel like they are alive.

[@thegrouchization]

I've long been an advocate for adapting the old event storylines into an early-game "pseudo-quest" for this reason. They would pretty much perfectly slot into that space to provide a plot thread to follow early on while also introducing several of the game's mechanics.

[@Not-sleeping-waiting]

And he already gets it. The first rule of fight club, is you don’t talk about fight club. The second rule of fight club, is you don’t spoil the second dream for new Tenno!

[@peachbat126]

that destiny 2 burn was too real, i quit it for warframe a loooong time ago

[@TheeTippp]

Same I'm a destiny vet. And warframe has had me hooked for 3 months. Playing almost daily 3-7 hours lmao.

[@peachbat126]

@@TheeTippp LOVE TO SEE IT

[@avsbes98]

I would argue that it's a bit like this: Destiny 2 is a really fun and entertaining game - and that's good. Warframe is an experience. It stands amongst the greatest experiences of Video Games as an equal. Amongst incredible titles such as Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo, Outer Wilds, Baldur's Gate, The Witcher, The Last of Us, Metal Gear, Half Life, Undertale, Knights oftheOld Republic and a few others, Warframe can stand proud and hold its head high - as a Free2Play Game nonetheless.

[@juniorminaya2851]

same here

[@MissGreenTeaLady]

I'm a little late but I quit Destiny after the Final Shape firing spree happened. I may log on every now and then but Warframe is my new looter shooter. I feel that DE respects me as a player more than Bungie ever could.

[@nicholasavicolli8944]

Part of the difficulty in the new player experience is exactly this quest. As a little history, this quest didn't exist in the game for the first few years when it was in "Open beta". I played since its launch into open beta in 2013. Each of the major quests in game has come chronologically in real life time and in game time. So the difficulty is in simulating that same shock we all felt when we first played, while keeping a new person engaged. For us, Warframe was just what it was, but this quest opened up a whole new world. And now, the game is so much more than we ever thought, so its hard to give you the full, fun experience teaching you everything while also not spoiling anything. Trying to simulate the experience that we had, dropped into a world with no idea what the lore was, and watching the devs build it around us. It makes for a fascinating and unique experience and I never get tired of seeing new players witness it the first time, because for all its faults, I think they do a good job subverting people even to this day. Even so much as not selling or showing you certain things in the shop until you get to this quest. And I can't wait to see your reactions as you go through more of the main quests. Nothing is ever the shock of second dream, but the quality of the story improves heavily as it goes on.

[@PlatinumVanguard]

In a way, it did have a title screen drop after. Recall the very last words being said in the cutscene, and it almost sounds like it...

[@GilbertGuilford]

I remember playing it and seeing Lua for the first time through that small window. I just stood there, watching and not being able to move. And later when you enter the reservoire and hear "This is what you are" for the first time. Can't really recall them all, but Second Dream might be the best quest I've ever played in any game.

[@julianl1985]

Watching new players experience the second dream is one of the best thing to see as a long time player. Welcome tenno

[@xtankhillx7970]

My favorite line in warframe that got me so emotional was, “now we fight on two fronts my child, the war without and the war within”.

[@doorknocker8920]

This is one of the best videos about warframe. We need more youtubers like LD. I have a hard time crying in general, but I definitely shed a tear for the tenno in second dream

[@johnP0908]

The Sacrifice did it for me. good times.

[@doorknocker8920]

@@johnP0908 Bro same

[@cyanide7270]

I still remember how I felt 5 years ago realizing that we werent just some robot space ninjas. I hadn't had that much of a holy ahit moment for YEARS, not since Metal Gear Solid 2, I think.

[@redsoulheart5040]

I remember watching your first warframe video. And while I do agree with your criticisms I just remember thinking to myself. "wait til he gets to the second dream" I'm pretty sure I even commented this. As a veteran player I am always so happy to see new players react to that quest, It brings me back to when I first played that quest and the emotions I felt playing it and the sacrifice.

[@thedigiknow]

You got a belly laugh out of me with the army of Vin Diesels shouting family at the end

[@daedalus5070]

War Within next week? 😁

[@coolgamer3646]

Next week Tuesday I hope he does it

[@exohunter1902]

At the beginning Warframe was such a different experience compared to now. When it was first introduced through steam greenlight I knew I had to back it up, even tho it was only a fraction of what it is now. Got my grandmaster founder pack and played hundreds of hours before the first story beats dropped. The second dream will always be a worthwhile memory for me and warframe will always have a place in my heart.

[@aSoreEd]

Skillups video from back then is what made me start playing Warframe in the first place. Very good video very good quest

[@NickHunter]

it was the review of his that got me into it, loved his follow up content and pretty sure he got partnered with DE and then his coverage of it just fell off a cliff with seemingly no explanation, like, does anyone know what happened there?

[@aSoreEd]

@@NickHunter I think he just enjoyed destiny more. Probably doesn't have time for more than one game like that as a game reviewer.

[@MKAZ-_-S]

i would say Warframe is more like real life than a game, it didn't really offer you a "tutorial" you need to searching for it, and when you think you mastering it's mechanic, it will hit you with something different out of nowhere.

[@AlfredEiji]

The thing about Warframe is that the first 100 hours of the game is basically what you’d experience afterwards. If you can’t enjoy that even a little bit, you likely wont enjoy the rest of the game. The quests and systems that you get with and after The Second Dream are merely accessories and new flavors of the same core gameplay you’ve experienced so far.

[@lordwurst9331]

switched from destiny to warframe after your warfarme is a wakeup call video. ive also played warframe on and off since 2016 but ive only got to mr6 but played the second dream and war within back in the day. i have 6000hrs in destiny and 400 in warframe, but now i see that warframe is the better game and DE the better company. i dont know if im ever gonna go back to destiny, but on steam i have 100hrs last two weeks in warfarme. 1999 got me the same feeling when i played the final shape in june.

[@TheBrocktonBlockbust]

As a 2500 hours, recently True Master (MR30) graduate, thank you for your unbiased take on the game. I can't wait for you to reach endgame.

[@alicelefay6853]

The only way veteran players enjoy warframe like first time playing Watching new player perspective YEP

[@brunofrance4776]

Your new player experience (and the release of warframe on the iphone) got me back into the game. Glad you are enjoying it

[@matthew83walker]

Hey kiddo ...

[@GeneralGroggy]

Go away i'm build crafting

[@twistedphoenix2184]

i have 1.3k hours in warframe and i will admit that the first hurdles of the game can really damage perception of the game (i gave up playing it for like 4-6 months initially) i wasn't there the very beginnings of the game however i have been here for a very long time, going on 9 or 10 years now. so i'd like to think that i have some perspective. i was there when The Second Dream quest was released, i can clearly remember the community wide effect it had on us all. . .(i'm shaking just remembering it). . . that was the moment it hit so very many of us that this game is more than just a simple game. At that moment we collectively as a community declared that one quest as the most Important and impactful part of the game any new player will experience. (a make or break thing...kinda). The Second Dream quest is almost sacred amongst the Warframe fanbase (myself included) and in my personal comparison it's like the beat drop in a Dubstep song, just one that you had no idea was coming. Warframe is and will most likely continue to be my most favorite game ever. (also the only game i've ever put 1k+ hours into).

[@Sunnyboy_684]

Its funny that the "it gets good after 100h" is true after all but with a different meaning. Its a good game, but after 100h there is this moment that change it like this into one of the best gaming experiences I and many other people ever had.

[@tinolm6202]

I think most gamers don't realise how much warframe cares about community. the reason the new player experience is rough and the game doeesn't give you much information is (imo), th game is alot better with friends and every other tenno can help you out

[@Joshua-vv6lu]

I started playing this game in 2016 but during that time I always quit and then Come back to it and I’m so glad I did by 2018 to 2019 is when I finally got hooked onto the game and now no matter what I can’t drop it nor do I want to.

[@shetookamint]

You've eloquently described my Second Dream and greater Warframe experience, except that I went in completely blind. This quest ruthlessly hooked me, and years later, I have no regrets. What could they possibly do next? How could they follow this up? How will they build on this narrative moment? I'm yet to be disappointed, except that I wish the quests were longer because they're so good. An experience like this coming from a free-to-play game is even more unexpected. Edited to add: Your criticisms of the game's early game experience and Market are very valid.

[@Clockhawk]

Been playing this game for 6 months - since November. Slightly off and on to start, but just hit L1 and the game has definitely blown me away. Jumped up to my top played game so quick, it’s just meshed together so well and you can really feel the thought and care behind it

[@Recca471]

Really hope you make more videos of quests. You're a great content creator. Can't wait to see more. It's also super nostalgic for me and I get to relive these awesome quests through a newbie's eyes. :)

[@spontaneousconfusstion9285]

Next up; The New War, I am 100% strapped in for this ride, this game has had me hooked for years, I started playing back just after Fortuna was released but never really knew what to do and where to go, and ended up stopping for a while, but I got back during 2020, finally reached The Second Dream around 200 hrs in and never looked back, now sitting at around 2000 hours in and I keep coming back

[@KeptWolf769]

Second Dream unlocked Kuva liches(Grineer liches), Call of the tempestari unlocks sisters of parvos(Corpus liches), I hear infested liches are coming soon.

[@flameendcyborgguy883]

"Dream... Not of what you are... But of what you want to be." This quote... This quote is not just part of the story, it is a message. A message to you as a player. Games are our dreams, not of who we are, but who we want to be.

[@Saint.Cosmos]

Now we fight on two fronts my child. The war without and the war within... Absolutely magical experience.

[@crowofrevelry]

The Second Dream was absolutely fucking magical when it first dropped, too, because players had been pondering the questions it answered since day one and obsessively cobbling together every schrift and scrap of lore they could to figure it out. We spent literal _years_ on that mystery and the reveal was incredibly impactful. That powerful moment stuck with so many that to this day many try to honor the spoilers of it.

[@spork8721]

I gotta say man as a long time warframe player ive been loving these videos youve been posting as you progress through the game

[@joetheturtle7768]

I still have vivid memories of after playing the second dream, before mission replays were a thing, sitting in my bed, watching replays of it on KZbin, just trying to relive the impact that it had on me. When I started the game, it was the most recent update, alongside the Nezha Warframe, and I still believe I chose the best time to get into the game.

[@AgtDrake]

Been playing Warframe for 7yrs. Recently made LR2. I had stopped doing MR tests for a few years. I've been really enjoying your coverage and always love seeing new people discover this game and the reactions to some of the key moments/quests,

[@justinjacobs1501]

Now we wait for his reaction to Umbra... Umbra's story legitimately pulled at my heart, and the theme still makes me misty eyed.

[@Wabinator]

You would never have guessed that they originally had Paid Revives in warframe. Also they removed a microtransaction for being used too much.

[@alpha_tier]

That moment is the reason I still play since 2014. I may take breaks, but I will always come back to Warframe.

[@VapurGrave]

i remember being bored the huge content drought, then playing this just to get emotional. the first cinematic quest that kickstarted everyones love for the game again.

[@TheSmuey]

I wholeheartedly agree. If there was one single moment in all of gaming I really wish I could experience for the very first time, it's this. It's the entire Second Dream quest and everything leading up to it.