Warhammer 40,000 KILL TEAM - Hivestorm is GO!

Peter shows you the new edition of Kill Team - included some painted minis!
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[@VeeeeryyyFaaaastSlooooth]

I love how the packing cardboard is much thicker than all the cardboard boxes.

[@mayofrench5170]

I agree with your opinion on the box. I also use the higher quality boxes for storage. I use them to keep my terrain collection sorted.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Indeed, I do the same with some of those solid ones like the Nachmund and Age of Sigmar terrain boxes.

[@volcano3493]

Some of the terrain sprues were present in the Command & Recruit boxes from the last edition of 40K. Forces included were Necrons & SM.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

@@volcano3493 I missed seeing those.

[@JamesWilson1979]

Reposition is the correct term in military movement during a fire fight. Immersion is maintained.

[@voltage2773]

Always love your paint jobs. Looks really good.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Cheers, appreciate that! Never anything original paint-scheme-wise, but that allows me to finish them relatively fast.

[@wombatsteroids]

Tempted to pick up some of this terrain for Necromunda. You go through so many new releases, I'm always impressed by how much painting you get done, and it still turns out looking great!

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Thanks! And I get the games later than they do over the other side of the world, so I have less time to build and paint them ...

[@weatherthis8062]

Thanks for your review mate, agree with the box rant. If they are charging those kind of prices for these products, they should at least be packaged to suit. Anyway, awesome paint job on the Vespid 👍.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Thanks - they were fun to paint!

[@adammeney8841]

Thanks for a great review Peter.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

You're welcome, and thanks for the thanks.

[@dwarrenmsp]

I'm buying into Kill Team with Hivestorm as my first GW game. I've been primarily a Marvel Crisis Protocol player. I'm excited to get it and personally I'm going to sell the Aquilons and keep the Stingwings. I already have the Navy Breachers and Brood Brothers and painting another group of "human" troops just didn't do it for me. I'll probaby try to get some Eldar or Dwarves.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Cool! Always interesting to hear from people getting into Kill Team for the first time.

[@Helghast73]

I do wish GW would use neoprene mats for their game boards.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

I agree - though packing them might be a challenge ...

[@NicholasTurnerOZ]

@@EsotericOrderGamersthey did a run of neoprene mats, and they stuck them in rectangular boxes and suggested you give them a light iron to get rid of the fold lines from the way it was packed. Which wasn’t all that successful. Probably why we didn’t see further releases. 😉

[@wtfserpico]

I noticed the sharp drop off of box quality with Skaventide. My Into the Dark and Heart of Ghur boxes are solid and I love them. These new boxes are crap. Nothing like cutting quality while simultaneously raising prices... Edit: On a positive note, your paint jobs look great!

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

You're right - as I said, if it has to be lesser quality(which it shouldn't) on intermediate boxes so be it, but not on major releases. They've been sneaking in the lower quality, cheaper boxes and now they're used for everything. Thanks!

[@edin6128]

Later today, I have to reposition to the supermarket, to buy some stuff.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ianhancock7112]

do have to love how generous is such a relative term with Games Workshop products

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Generous if you have no issue at all with spending NZ$400 then. 🤣

[@ianhancock7112]

Yeah though we had it rough in AU, NZD is something else

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

@@ianhancock7112 It never ceases to shock me ...

[@ianhancock7112]

ISS Vanguard is amazing, I hope it actually gets to the table on occasion :)

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

One day ... when I have time ... the Esoteric Order of Gamers eats up so many of my spare hours!

[@ianhancock7112]

@@EsotericOrderGamers I just finished off the core campaign with my nine year old daughter, it's a very immersive and accessible experience (if a pretty chunky time commitment). That all being said, I greatly appreciate the work you do mate- I've been benefitting from your exceptional work since Descent first edition 🥝

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

@@ianhancock7112 Well thanks - don't forget to check out Tabletop Codex, you sound like just the kind of person who'd find it handy!

[@ianhancock7112]

@@EsotericOrderGamers already there :)

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

@@ianhancock7112 Excellent!

[@THX-to6gg]

I’m sticking to Shadow War Armageddon!

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Excellent! You and - well probably very few people really, but good on you! 😀

[@DJDadJoke]

Haven't read the rules fully, but is it possible that the "move" action was renamed to "reposition" so that both repositioning and dashing could be defined as moving? That way they wouldn't have to have rules that say "whenever an enemy model ends a movement action or dash action within X of a model you control, do Y"? They could just say "Whenever an enemy model ends a move action within X of a model you control, do Y." I know that's why Marvel Crisis Protocol calls the move action "advancing" because then web swings and teleports can be defined as "placement," but both count as "moving."

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

That's a far more measured and intelligent analysis than my emotional response. 🤣 Sure - but is it really worth the change? We've all got by very comfortably calling such things move actions for many decades now ...

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

I’ve been a Kill Team tournament organizer throughout this edition, and the above explanation is 100% correct. Some special abilities referred to situations where models moved, and a typical hurdle with new players was drawing a distinction between using the “Move” action, and the model physically ending up somewhere other than where it started. It wasn’t the end of the world with English publications, but I heard this issue was exponentially worse amongst translations of the books into other languages (with Kill Team being as popular as it is in mainland Europe, especially Spain, it was a common issue). As clunky as “Reposition” sounds, I’m personally glad for the change. We can agree on the flimsy box, though!

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Interesting. I've been playing these kinds of games for decades so I must admit it's hard for me to get into the head of a beginner, though it does seem to me an easy distinction to pick up (in all the time I've played minis games I've never once thought it was an issue). Of course I can understand that might be different for non-English speakers. But 'reposition' - it's so clunky - even 'advance' would have been better. At least the sentence 'advance towards the nearest operative' actually makes sense... I sympathise with the Germans ... "neu positionieren" - argh! 😆

[@mikeadams3722]

Fantastic review, as always 🙂. I pretty much agree with all your comments. In my skirmish games, I always refer to "fighters", I hate the word "operative". But not as much as I hated the coloured symbols, so glad they came to their senses on that one! Re. the box, I think it depends on the type of product, e.g. I hate the flimsy box for Dark Tide because that's one where I will store everything in the box, but with Kill Team the terrain and minis simply aren't going to fit back in the box, and therefore once they are built the box isn't really needed, is it? I still agree though, it feels a bit cheap.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

I keep almost all my boxes - well, certainly the first set for each edition.

[@bradp6452]

Kill team 2021 was very special rules heavy for the real teams. This seems the same. Not stoked about the price increase on all the existing factions. I was interested in getting the brood brothers for my assorted genestealer cults but they are like 75 dollars for 10 human models.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Another disappointment - taking the opportunity to increase the prices of the old teams. Grrrr!!

[@wolfie54321]

Thanks for the video! My biggest question.... how badly are the rules written? Are they an arduous read or have they improved their mastery of the English language to make it a bit more streamlined?

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

The rulebook is still pretty bad IMHO. Engage/conceal, cover and LOS are all a bit clearer, but in general it suffers from the "to make this a lot clearer I'm actually going to make it more verbose and complicated" syndrome. They've also thrown most of the rules into an alphabetical appendix which is very lazy rules writing in my opinion.

[@pinknekofire7289]

Ordered it~ Been wanting to get into Kill Team. Because AoS, Warcry, Battletech, Shadows of Brimstone, and 40k isnt enough lol😭

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

All games are different though aren't they? 🤣

[@kevinakos7059]

Could not agree more about the box quality. There is no reason other than greed that these boxes are so flimsy. You can get games a quarter of this price with amazing quality boxes.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Ah, but GW gets to save 3 cents a box! Grrrr ...

[@TheKid_88]

Why so salty all the time?

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Gee, your definition of 'salty' is very ... tame. 🤣

[@LordTechnopants]

In the UK this is £145. If I get it from where I usually shop online it's £116. £116 for a nice-looking set that is dumped in a box that is about equivalent to the box that came with the Aldi pizza we had today. I'm going to say no frankly. The price is just too far north of £100 for the lack of regard for the customer that GW is bent on as policy now. I'll always watch your GW content Peter, but I've become very selective about what I buy and GW is set on making my FOMO a thing of the past. Unless they 'reposition', I'm still out. Will there be a turning point?

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

I see what you did there 🤣 BTW it's about NZ$414 here (£194)...

[@LordTechnopants]

@@EsotericOrderGamers £194!!! Don't upset GW with your box snobbery sir! I bet (and it shows) you really appreciate this stuff being sent. Much deserved.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

@@LordTechnopants I certainly do appreciate it, after a lifetime of buying my own GW stuff - but that won't stop me being honest in my opinions! 😁

[@johnclarke25]

Great and interesting vid,look an interesting game.

[@EsotericOrderGamers]

Thanks!