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Lords of War Games and Hobbies

Lords of War Games and Hobbies

Күн бұрын

In this episode we talk about AOS several months post launch and how its doing in the shop.
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Пікірлер: 49
@donchaiminster1989
@donchaiminster1989 2 күн бұрын
I’m the guy Jay describes. Played some other GW stuff, never touched AoS. The Skaventide trailer piqued my interest but the details about Spearhead sealed the deal and I picked up the launch box. I love playing Spearhead and we’ve had three other guys in our Necromunda group pick up Spearheads to join.
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Amazing!
@EvilBearWargames
@EvilBearWargames 3 күн бұрын
wish combat patrol was as nice as spearhead
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Samesies
@andrewcook3983
@andrewcook3983 3 күн бұрын
I think the 40K 10th ed tagline that Jay was searching for was " Simplified, not simple."
2 күн бұрын
"Simplified, not simpel to understand" 😛
@David-li4uw
@David-li4uw 2 күн бұрын
Should be “simplified not fun.”
@DocPhantoms
@DocPhantoms 2 күн бұрын
To the point at about 10 mins of complimentary spearheads leading to a full army: para bellum currently does that with their starters and it's fantastic. the old starter and the new starter for a given army are designed to be complimentary instead of redundant
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Love that idea
@lancetan7699
@lancetan7699 3 күн бұрын
Really loving 4th edition so far and enjoying spearhead as a side game. :)
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Fantastic!
@PhoenixExcess
@PhoenixExcess 2 күн бұрын
I would say spearhead is a great way to get into the hobby and get people on tables throwing dice and moving models. But in my local group it’s actually not great for getting people into the full game. Too many things are different, army rules are completely different, so many “modules” aren’t there in spear head, profiles are completely different, etc. It’s honestly like teaching two different game systems trying to get someone from spearhead to full AoS.
@jamesfisher5930
@jamesfisher5930 Күн бұрын
I play spearhead about once a week. Never played AoS before this and I love it. Planning my second force now (skaven from skaventide).
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 Күн бұрын
That's awesome! Glad you are having fun with it
@horusthewarmaster7
@horusthewarmaster7 Күн бұрын
In the first weekend of October we have MOAB in Sydney (Australia) and I’ll be interested to see the AoS turnout because it feels like Old World has sucked all the air out of the fantasy room.
@rcdemoral1982
@rcdemoral1982 3 күн бұрын
I like the idea of this. I want the models to paint and like the idea of playing - I won't play 40k again since it's so play not fun, but I did like 1st Ed sigmar. Bought my first spearhead and hoping to join a league soon.
@aaronabel4756
@aaronabel4756 2 күн бұрын
AoS is definitely moving off the shelves and being played, especially spearhead!
@iainclark2959
@iainclark2959 2 күн бұрын
Locally, Skaventide was a bit of a bust, but we’ve had a spike in AOS play with two successful local events. Spearhead, though, has not generated much interest at the two FLGS. Folks like to build their armies
@SolidusPL
@SolidusPL 2 күн бұрын
in our local area, AoS is starting to fall out, a lot of people go to OW
@Unaidedfoot
@Unaidedfoot 2 күн бұрын
AOS is doing well in Manitoba. Great edition so far in my opinion🥳 4.0 though I have no idea if spearhead is a played game here.
@Unaidedfoot
@Unaidedfoot 2 күн бұрын
I would like to say the the real winner in the conversation in everyone who has a gaming scene in their area. Gaming is good and this might be golden era of table top WarGames and options.🎉
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Facts
@dominicmetzger3246
@dominicmetzger3246 2 күн бұрын
Already sold more kill team hivestorm than age of sigmar 4th locally
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Where abouts friend?
@dominicmetzger3246
@dominicmetzger3246 2 күн бұрын
@@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 I’m the owner of Fabricator’s Forge in coraopolis Pa (outside of Pittsburgh)
@willhavelin796
@willhavelin796 2 күн бұрын
AOS seems to be doing well near me. The gaming club I'm in had like 40 people sign up for our AOS league
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
That's amazing!
@Rsma77
@Rsma77 2 күн бұрын
Glad to hear AOS is doing well for you guys and your area but for my area it has been a total bust. It was a big change for what felt like not much gain a lot of the players felt and now no one plays AOS even the AOS die hards. Arguably AOS 4th was a bigger gain for 40k in my area then AOS as they all just migrated to that as they didn't want to leave the GW ecosystem and well everyone already plays 40k. Everyone agrees the models are great but great models alone are not enough to gain interest into a game system as many game systems can attest to. I'd love to AOS thrive in the area again but I'm looking at selling my armies off as it has just completely died an ignominious death.
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Sad to hear that!
@redsven7624
@redsven7624 Сағат бұрын
Spearhead, did appeal but the need for a 42 quid box means I have not touched it, reviews I value are too mixed to buy on a chance. Combat patrol was the only reason I looked at 10th, and I have brought 3 combat patrols. Now we are playing with the idea of 500 point games, no interest in large games of 40k but smaller games seem to work for us. More than kill team that we found, after getting past the old book, was pretty mediocre
@redsven7624
@redsven7624 Сағат бұрын
Apparently spearhead is doing OK, but main game not so much
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 2 күн бұрын
It wouldn’t take much to be better than Combat Patrol. So imbalanced. I want Spearhead to be successful because it’s pretty much as deep as I want to get into anything.
@Blueviking9
@Blueviking9 3 күн бұрын
First boys!
@Strange8ractor
@Strange8ractor 3 күн бұрын
I’m happy for game stores that more Spearhead boxes are moving. But Spearhead is barely a game at all and the reason so many people are playing it is because it is easy. But that won’t have legs. A game whose primary element of player agency is which pre-defined list you play is not going to sustain the game for 3 years. I like war games. I like interactive board games with lots of player agency. I don’t need catch-up mechanics to keep games artificially close and dull the impact of player skill. Spearhead and AoS4 have none of the qualities I value, so I’ve moved on. My FEC army will live in my display cabinet now, which makes me a little sad.
@Husker44g
@Husker44g 2 күн бұрын
Come to the Old World and bask in it's fields of never ending list building. List building becomes a hobby in this world.
@aaronabel4756
@aaronabel4756 2 күн бұрын
Grab a copy of Tony Bath's Ancient Wargaming and maybe a copy of Wargaming Campaigns by Henry Hyde. Warhammer can be adapted to actual campaigns and open up a whole new dimension of player agency.
@Strange8ractor
@Strange8ractor 2 күн бұрын
I am a 3d printer away from playing TOW. I loved WHFB 7th and 8th. I only started playing AoS because I was sure that GW would not commit to TOW, but I’m happy to be wrong about that. I hadn’t heard of Ancient Wargaming. Just bought a digital copy. Thanks for the tip!
@mogwaiman6048
@mogwaiman6048 2 күн бұрын
Sure it can, people can buy more than one Spearhead and if they tire of Spearhead they can play 4th edition. Spearhead has been amazingly well done for what it is.
@Strange8ractor
@Strange8ractor 2 күн бұрын
We’ll see, but my bet is that Spearhead will have very little engagement in 6 months. We’ll be back to the same overly complex AoS battletome rules, but with less freedom in list building and more emphasis on the worst parts of 3rd edition (battle tactics, endless spells). All these people playing Spearhead because it is easier than full-blown AoS are still not going to play full-blown AoS. Having to drop $140 plus building and painting a new Spearhead in order to breathe a little bit of life into a watered-down board game is not going to be appealing to most people for very long. Unless it’s just an excuse to buy build and paint more stuff, then ok, but that also doesn’t support the idea that the game has longevity. If I search for “spearhead” on KZbin right now, there’s nothing more recent than a month old.
@JohanVek
@JohanVek 2 күн бұрын
Just shilling.
@thesoothsayer9223
@thesoothsayer9223 3 күн бұрын
Never been a better time to play Warhammer. Never been more local and global interest. Im having a blast with fast pickup spearhead while we theory craft and finish painting our full scale 4th ed armies.
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905
@lordsofwargamesandhobbies3905 2 күн бұрын
Glad to hear it!
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