Warhammer Lore, The White Lions of Chrace

[@keegobricks9734]

I can still remember my brother seeing these axe wielding elves and remarking: " Warhammer definitely has the least gay elves".

[@Fyrebrand18]

Keego Bricks Hey... There's still the Witcher Elves... their Armour makes them look like they came out of Sauron's wet dreams... or a Norwegian Death Metal video...

[@keegobricks9734]

I don't care at all

[@Plankensen]

But you think we care about what your brother said?

[@bobbygill9533]

Hahahahahaha cheers to your brother, and our lord Arch, may he live a life filled with smiles

[@jakobos93]

I love the saltiness of all non elves when having to face the righteous grace and profession of the Asur. Then again, what is to be expected of barbarians anyway *snarfsnarfsnarf

[@hellhelghast]

Only 19 min Arch? Remember, Heresy grows from idleness, dont make me pay you a visit =][=

[@theodore-jef5664]

hellhelghast I hard heresy I came as quickly as I could!

[@UnionJack437]

To be fair, the White Lions don't really have too much lore. Unless you get to the captains, their lore really does begin and end with "used to be lumberjacks, saved the Phoenix King, now personal bodyguard of the Phoenix King."

[@Slycarlo]

Dj BearMetal this vid lack rant from our battle brother arch he might fall to heresy

[@tombouric]

"Imma cut you with my axe, watch me split ya in half..." Go home elf, you're drunk.

[@soldiersPL]

And thats why you dont let elves near dwarven bar, next thing you know and they will start choping down trees and grumble how shit was better in times of your ancestors

[@amandag.6186]

@@soldiersPL isn't that the dwarfs on a regular basis?

[@izonker]

"Then again, taking a woodsman's axe to the back of the neck will take the first gear out of anyone, even a Dark elf" +Arch Warhammer good sir, thank you for providing me with one of the most chuckle-inducing quotes that I have heard in a long time. You always do know just how to turn a phrase for memorable storytelling.

[@ozzyjames87]

He actually said a lumberjack axe to the back of the neck would the frisk out of anyone even a dark elf.

[@izonker]

ozzyjames87 So I noticed on a re-listen, I sit corrected , though its still a great turn of phrase

[@omegawilliam95s36]

First Gear? Like Luffy??

[@Prince__Teclis]

"Malekith decided fuck democracy." I'm still laughing at that, because it's true.

[@yof106]

These guys and the Hammerers bring up few questions about what sort of training civilian goes through, when they take some "peaceful" profession. Also, this leads me to the idea of how you can form a proper military organization in Warhammer world, with your friends, charged with defending the leader of your country. step 1. pick a profession that involves using metal objects and has nothing to do with war step 2. gather up few friends step 3. learn how to use your tools in ways detrimental for others health step 4. ????? step 5. profit

[@moriskurth628]

So, Karl Franz gets additional bodyguards armed with ladles and cleavers that once were the cooks of a relatively well-off tavern? "I will cut you like the mushrooms for my soup!!" - Lord-Commander Frederick Schneider of the Imperial Panguard to a Champion of Khorne.

[@nobonobnob5174]

Just make sure that the metal object of your proffession has some likeness to a murder weapon. The Royal Scissor guard might be a tad bit lame.

[@moriskurth628]

Unless both sides of each scissor blade are double-edged. then you take a scissor large enough (like a hedge trimmer) and you have pretty decent weapons. Nothing that could stop a Chaos Champion, true, but if the nutjobs in Nuln get the idea to their heads, wonderful scissor weapons might appear.

[@nobonobnob5174]

Ofcourse both the dawn's and elves might fear them because of their beards and ears respectively.

[@nobonobnob5174]

Dawis*

[@henriknielsen6998]

"I am a bodyguard of the king. This is my axe, which is a mastercrafted heirloom passed down through eons. And this is my Lion, Mittens.

[@commissarlugh1040]

ill be damned a group of elves i like.

[@Onkoloinen]

hey what about the darkelfs, they have always be more ruthless

[@commissarlugh1040]

thats true malice is baller as all hell

[@TheTrueMalice]

Yes yes it is.

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

Elf lumberjacks... Sounds really counterintuitive.

[@bowmanruto]

ikr, its basically a oxymoron

[@robertnelson9599]

Wood Elf lumberjacks would have been a bigger oxymoron.

[@NukerMunkyGames]

I'm only 1 minute in so far, but i must say; Arch here is _masterfully_ avoiding having to say the word "Chrace" in a video that is _about_ the 'White Lions of _Chrace'_ Bravo, sir. Bravo.

[@bencochrane6112]

This brings back memories of wandering across Ulthuan with Cimba, back in Warhammer Age of Reckoning. The white lion is still the best pet class I've ever played in an mmo, swapping aggro mid battle, and really working together to maximise dps.

[@fabiocosta3830]

Check Return of Reckoning. Is a reborn WAR, and although isn't at 100% yet, it is at about 95% of what WAR was just now. Plus, there was some balancing tweaks and DoK and WP can use small shields instead of a book/chalice if they desire

[@beccaro5268]

You talk a Lot about Buttfucks.. Something you miss? ;P Just kidding, I Love your Humor! :D

[@gabrielperrella]

I wonder if the Dwarfs feel salty that the High Elves have better Axes that are better than theirs. Of course, if you value your physical integrity, you are not going to say that into a Dwarf's face.

[@marcuskurze9759]

What lets you think these axes are better than those of Dwarfs?

[@nobady9752]

@@marcuskurze9759 Simple: They're elven. More serious answer: They can weave fare more magic into the forging and enchantments of the weapon than the few, if not single rune that dwarves get.

[@marcuskurze9759]

@@nobady9752 So they create more magic in the Axes of These elven Lumberjacks but still are inferior in the magic power for the Weapons of their Characters compared to those of the Dwarfs?

[@nobady9752]

@@marcuskurze9759 Dude you can't compare lore to tabletop. If need proof, a bolter hit has a sub 50% chance of killing a guardsman, while a lasgun hit has about 10% of killing a space marine.

[@marcuskurze9759]

@@nobady9752Maybe.I am not so familiar with WH Fantasy Books and stuff.But what i read is that the Dwarfs are Always portraied as the better creators of magic weapons.

[@SSVjoker]

Am I the only one that realizes that making a two handed axe too light is actually counter productive? More than half it's cutting and piercing power depends on the momentum (and therefore weight) of the axe. Well, elven craftsmen obviously didn't notice that....

[@jegergladformad86]

did anyone els conside who exatly had the steel balls, to go up and braid the mane of a horse sized white lion. fucking hell not the gig I would have choosen if the circus rolled into town.

[@sjoerddz]

i actually love the high elves, does that make me a bad person?

[@rasspliffari]

nope, high elves are naturally superior

[@caelvanir8557]

*BLAM*

[@mcorte2224]

im reporting you to the ordo hereticus

[@martintieber7756]

You good Sir, are speaking the one and only truth.

[@CPTButz]

Yes it does make you a bad person, they're not dwarves, and you're not a dwarf.

[@florianwilke2162]

admit it arch: you only chosed this theme for beeing able to say pussy so much while talking about pointy ears and keep it on topic. xD

[@DetectiveLwegi]

pointy ears are heretics.

[@ArchYouTube]

i just wish they were the black lions of Chrace! imagine the triggering potential!

[@kimjong_un8801]

Shouldn't the bastards be pleased that GW's adding something black other than the Salamanders?

[@florianwilke2162]

GW is racist... dont tell that any sjw.... the sexsism bull was facepalming enough... my forehead still hurts...

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

That is....I'm sorry got ot go to the hospital I think my brain is leaking, although it would work with the Dark Elves

[@andreaswidham3607]

9:34 Had. Since the Phoenix King's hat would later be... acquired, by the Dwarves in something of a hostile takeover.

[@yes-par2983]

so they are a little based of the Varagian Guard?

[@Hengebobs]

But they are elves? for the comparison to be more apt they would have to be humans or dwarves or something, wouldn't they?

[@Muscovy7]

I assume you mean the Varangian Guard of the Byzantines? The Russian/Danish bodyguard of the Emperor :D

[@yes-par2983]

Yes

[@romulusnuma116]

Drew Ivan that sound right

[@dma3d]

yeah thats probably the case because one more similarity is that Constantinople the capital of Buzantium was in Thrace (which seams similar to Chrace the high elf province)

[@Dwarfurious]

You'd think the Captain of an Elite fighting force would be better at combat than a prince, who has better things to do with his time. But nope! Royalty just makes you better.

[@CBRN-115]

For me, the lizardmen were always fascinating. They tame and ride fricking DINOSAURS. It's a dream come true, I've always wanted to see units using dinosaurs as mounts and living siege equipments and stuff

[@heavyhebrew]

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[@roan2288]

Dinosaurs>lions

[@CBRN-115]

heavyhebrew perfect

[@hitomisalazar4073]

They were definitely my favorite faction in Warhammer Fantasy Battles. I always felt that they should have been pushed more.

[@kvchikka]

Amazons due too

[@Tom-kg6qe]

But imagine the litter box you'd have to clean for a white lion...

[@Speedstar115]

White lions are my favorite unit in all of warhammer lore

[@HunterXMoon]

Annnnnd White Lions lore from nowhere! Love your lore series Arch! Keep up the great work!

[@c.b.4916]

Ahhh. Missed ur lore vids arch. Feels good to have em back

[@riftknight2176]

Oh! I was just checking for uploads and now I get more lore :D

[@darkblood626]

I missed these lore videos.

[@imperialityofserbia5138]

Lets make : '' I will add another insult until arch aggres to make 2 vids a week comment''

[@powerist209]

2:32- Well, their sword happened to be zweihander-style two handed sword.

[@varpingeviking]

Not the best bodyguards one could say, good old Starbreaker just chopped his way through them and severed the Oathbreakers head from his shoulders. Perhaps they learnt a bit about axemanship from that....

[@Chiefjoseph82]

oh man i am only 7 min into the story and i haven't laugh this hard in a long time, Thank You Arch!

[@richardround2071]

It would be good if you did a video on the pantheon of empire gods, like morr, sigmar, Ulric etc.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Gotta respect a bunch of woodsman who when turned into a bodyguard decided they need to hunt Giant White Lions with an Axe. Even if they ARE High Elves. For High Elves, these guys are kinda awesome.

[@bowmanruto]

''decided they need to hunt Giant White Lions with an -Axe- '' the trail is actually bare handed with no armor

[@d0ntfeedphil447]

Dwarfs > High Elves Long Live the Karak Ankor!

[@panzerfaustdale5537]

khazuk@

[@d0ntfeedphil447]

SuperSmashyfication thank you for pointing it out

[@d0ntfeedphil447]

#FuckTheHighElves

[@dma3d]

High elves for the win! Go back to Karak Casul :P

[@braydoxastora5584]

I'm more of a low elf guy or would that be a dwarf..................(head explodes)

[@AMasondude]

Elves with axes??? HERESEY!!!

[@Muscovy7]

Also, they have to actually kill the huge fucking lion BARE handed and sans-armour, it's in the 8th ed Army Book :D

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

What did the White Lion say to the Executioner? "I'd like to axe you a question"

[@chrisedrington7945]

Officially at the point where I already know the story; I just want to hear Arch tell it. I did like the 'Caledor' book version better, but hearing Arch say how a bunch of lumberjacks decided that felling dark elves was just like felling trees was delightful.

[@leopoldjenkins]

excellent video as always Arch. Keep up the good word!

[@charlesw5919]

Havent covered anything not humans and dwarves for a while... so we will cover elves who think they are dwarves. LOL

[@Schlange556]

I want a half wild, mostly hungry, half ton pussy cat.

[@zacharygerken7855]

Those lions would be awesome imagine all the problems you could cause with them.

[@coldstar1054]

You neglected to say the biggest part of White Lion initiation. Several hunters in Chrace kill the lions by various means to protect the villages. But to become part of the Phoenix King's bodyguard, the aspiring elf must go out and kill the lion BAREHANDED!!!!!

[@DhiscoStu]

This was beautifully narrated and oodles of fun, thank you :)

[@chriscalvin5083]

so has any white lion warrior rode a white lion as a cavalry mount or do they just talk them into pulling chariots?

[@NetMoverSitan]

I was hoping for the Weirdboyz, but this was amusing. Might as well make a start on those Sado-masochist Dark Eldar next week. | 9:40 - It would probably result in the Monty Python "Lumberjack Song" playing in the background. | 11:15 - Welcome to Greenpeace Hell!

[@lacroixplainfeather5343]

Still love the lore and love your humor, classic. The go to on any lore to be know. Keep it up my g

[@hallowself852]

Aww yeah High elves! Can't believe I missed this in my sub-box!

[@evigetrollkarln2970]

just came home soo now i can warm my hands with lore tack så mycket

[@Messiah114]

Elves:" You wouldn't get it" Non-Elves: 🤬

[@fabiocosta3830]

As 1d4chan says, The MANLY elves.

[@shiroyasha4995]

it would be nice to see a white. lion of chrace monstrous cavalry in warhammer total war

[@Number0neSon]

I love the vids, but I need the old music too! It just brings it all together somehow.

[@Nic7800]

Giant cat and elf with a giant axe. That like the worst day to be a normal people

[@chrisbingley]

Two-handed weapons always strike last. High Elves always strike first, regardless of weapon. These fuckers were legit OP. I guess Matt 'fuckwit' Ward had a hand in their creation.

[@markusnavergard3337]

Saurus next? Krom-qar the biggest badass of anny species

[@thanquolrattenherz9665]

that title belongs to the headtaker or tyrion

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Elves, armed with Dane axes, cool, crazy but cool, some what heretical but it alright, played one in WarHammer Online, ow nostalgia, can't wait when they are put in the game! :D

[@chocolateboyish]

yay more lore !!!

[@johanneshjortshj8646]

Thank you for sticking to the real deal and not giving in to age of stupid.

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Point Eared, or some what less polite Knife Eared, arrogant, stuck up bastards wielding Danish enchanted battle axes while wearing the pelt of of giant saber cat sized feline, still I do like that sort of warriors, still the Knights of the White Wolf are my my type of Warriors & the Blood Knights, of course. But Great White Lumberjacks, that cracked me up

[@andrewwynne6233]

Another great video Arch. I will admit that I miss the old mandolins music you had in the background, but that's not picking. Regardless, good quality.

[@AldousC]

That reminds me... how does Elvish magic work? How do they enchant a weapon?

[@UnionJack437]

I think I can answer this, but I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. Could you be more specific with your question?

[@AldousC]

What do elves do to make magic? They have enchanted items... how do they enchant them?

[@UnionJack437]

All magic comes from "The Winds of Magic" which, itself, comes from the Chaos realm. Arch actually has a couple videos exactly on that subject if you want to look into it more. Otherwise, Elves aren't too special in how they use magic. They spend hundreds, if not thousands of years studying and once they are on the battlefield they will bring the winds of magic to themselves through a series of chants and movements which they have rigorously memorized. Every High Elven mage is extremely skilled in magic. More so than perhaps any other race in Warhammer save, possibly, the Lizardmen. No book I have read has gone into *specific* mention of how items are enchanted but the basic gist of it is that they use runes to bind magic into them. Sometimes, if the crafter is strong enough, they can even bind spirits into weapons. Tyrion's legendary sword "Sunfang" can actually shoot out a blaze of fire due to a volcano spirit which was bound to his weapon long ago. Is that the answer you were looking for?

[@AldousC]

So Elves use the same magic as Dwarves in enchanting weapons?

[@sineupp]

Lol what a coincidence, I'm playing Warsword Conquest (a Warhammer Fantasy mod for M&B Warband) and just last night I got a White Lion helmet, which looks great with the Blade Lord suit of armor and the white Glade Steed. Such a fabulous-looking universe (Still prefer 40K though).

[@Calrissian360]

Good vid, as always. But you got one detail wrong. The first Phoenix King Caledor was originally called Imrick. He took the name Caledor to honour his grandfather, Caledor Dragontamer. Read The Sundering, by Gav Thorpe. It's the best source I've found for High/Dark Elf ancient history.

[@stewartpearce402]

White Lions are my favorite High Elf unit

[@hollyhandgrenade42]

More Warhammer Fantasy lore please.

[@JacatackLP]

Hey Arch when will you do a vid on the Harlequins in 40k?

[@patrik9328]

One of my favorite High Elf units

[@ravoln2457]

+Arch Could you please add videos into your playlists. There are several that are not in their proper place, this one included. I know it is tedious work but it would amazing since I, and I'm sure other fans, love to listen to your playlist repeatedly. but it bothers me somewhat that I'm not getting all your videos relevant to that playlist.

[@dalakhsarothal9624]

Caledor I was not named Caledor but Imrik. He took the name Caledor when he was crowned Phoenix King.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

...so...the lions themselves are the (cough cough) "fenris thunder wolf" from 40k??

[@GonadTheNomad1]

It's the other way around.

[@rakufin]

I'd say that IRL axes require very little strength compared to many other weapons. Dane axes, for example, are very light and quick.

[@AFCoulthard]

Please make High Elves good in Total Warhammer.

[@asashahni9090]

The pheonix king Caledor was called Imrik before and took this name in honor of his grand father if I recall correctly.

[@chriscalvin5083]

think of lion Arch could you do a lore video on the celestial Lion Space Marine chapter?

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

So, the white lions are the high elven version of the demigryphs. This gives me the chance to ask a question I have for quite some time about the demigryphs in total war. Comparing the models in game with the official gw artwork it seems that the in game demigryphs are smaller than I expected. Also, in the Empire amry video you proposed a five model unit Arch and considering how in game they are a 24 model unit, would you consider that total war demigryphs are a "downgrade" compared to their lore counterparts? In your army video you described them as overpowered monsters that murderfuck everything in their path. The wikia also gives the same impression, so the in game unit, even though it is among the best in the game, feels quite dissapointing. Perhaps, bigger demigryphs in smaller units whould make a bigger impact. (A similar issue has come up with the Blood Knights, as many have pointed out that a 60 model unit of vampire knights is just wrong.)

[@thanquolrattenherz9665]

highelves have lots of twohanded weapons at their elite ranks maybe great weapons are normal elveweapons. whitelions and dragonprinces have str 4 thats more than the most orcs hold that in mind

[@tylerpeterson3281]

Would they be called dark elves at this point? Or just renegades?

[@ZachlajVonBurbon]

aaah... Age of Reckoning artwork... i miss that game :(

[@ryanmartin4732]

So they are the high Elf equivalent of the Varangian guard. Neat

[@barbadossephtis9730]

I thought you would have gone with something dirtier to the joke following the "stabbed to death" statement like: "He would have been stabbed by SOMETHING ELSE before being stabbed to death."

[@SnlDrako]

So you are saying in a highly trained dark elven assassin vs literally first random woodcutter encounter the woodcutter won. I had a friend who consistently rolled beneath 5 on most rolls. On a d20. Was she playing?

[@tac-floor1330]

so when are ya gonna do lore video for khorne blood bound and storm cast eternal?

[@danietkissenle]

so when am i gonna be able to fight horse sized lions against bear calvary

[@tuhkakasa1917]

You could have mention something about current captain of white lions, Korhil. thought there is not much lore about him

[@metalista765]

Hi Arch i have 2 questions for you if you can find the time to answer them i would be very happy ! 1.Do you plan on playing more Blood Bowl 2 ? 2,What is your opinion on your fellow norwegian youtubers-Skallagrim and Varg Vikernes? Thank you in advance. Ps:Pardon my english its not my native language.

[@remiborgen8925]

I love your videos. Could you do one lore video about Witch Elves as well? They're my favorite

[@broken1nail]

excellent lore video!

[@Ellcoupit]

I loved playing these guys in warhammer online

[@mikkelnpetersen]

Would a dwarf use a White Lions axe? If (although unlikely, but IF) he killed the elf and looted the axe off him. I mean, sure, dwarves would rather take a dump in the elfs helmet and send it to his family, but it IS a pretty sweet axe, AND the dwarf could stand in front of a high elf army and say "Look what I got twiggys."

[@martintieber7756]

I'm a bit confused with Arch's pronunciation. If you listen to Arch's version it should be spelled "Thrace", like the geographical region in the eastern Balkans, or the ancient Kingdom. I know Arch can be a bit peculiar when it comes to pronunciation and lets be honest, English isn't really one of those "rule-based pronunciation languages" like French. Still, I have no idea where his "Th" comes from. Is it actually pronounced like this?

[@UnionJack437]

I think that Arch gets a few details a bit off. He's not really "inaccurate" so to say, but the topics he covers are so broad that he is bound to have a few mess ups here and there. Regarding this particular point though. As far as I am aware, there is no official pronunciation of "Chrace" You can say it like "Trace" or "Thrace" or "Krace" and it is all just as valid. Personally, I go with "Trace."

[@Slaggedfire]

Your ending music I heard it from stonesense while I played dwarf fortress, tell me you play dwarf fortress.

[@aruanamic8766]

yo arch can you do a video on the white dwarf?

[@reaperofzombies9698]

are elvves not physically stronger than humans in warhammer? i mean i get in an elf is no ogre. but i feel like an elf with a axe would scare me more than a human with a greatsword....

[@shiroyasha4995]

I woukd really like to see a white lions cavalry like the denigryphs

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

0:30 haha..... get rekt high elves

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Tyrions a bastard.

[@MadBrainBox]

Yeah.An extremely powerful bastard.And let's not forget his brother.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

MadBrainBox Shadows of their father that will doom the world ;-) But we do not talk about that one!

[@Prince__Teclis]

MadBrainBox I suggest you shut up.

[@MadBrainBox]

Prince Teclis Now why would I want to do that?

[@andrewwood9422]

why don't you do a video on all the individual elven kingdoms

[@kazen16]

Whitelion from Warhammer Online is fucking awesome!

[@vanders4198]

I thought Elves were as physically strong as Men, but in a much more lithe frame. Or is that just LoTR?

[@JesusProtects]

Vanders yep, more or less same strenght and a lot more agile.

[@chriscalvin5083]

Arch just watched the One Mind Syndicate video on the Imperial Knights of the imperium would like you take on the elite members of Knight worlds

[@Theboneroomreal]

is it weird that my only exposure to warhammer anything has been these myriad KZbin channels?