Battle of the Bulge | German Panzer Offensive | Warner Classics

[@nateo6806]

Yes, the tanks are M47 Pattons. Chill people. This was a film that was made in an era before the internet autist brigade could fact check every item of kit on every extra. For what it's worth it's an entertaining film from a bygone era of Hollywood war movies. Enjoy it for what it is 👍

[@marcossuarezbenitez6416]

Pero tiene muchísimos fallos estructurales. Los carros alemanes iban pintados de tres colores y eso se sabía. Los carros alemanes no enfrentaban la batalla con las escotillas abiertas, ni nadie asomando medio cuerpo por encima. Finalmente, aunque la vanguardia de una división panzer la componían tres compañías de tanques, les acompañaban, como miembros de la misma división, granaderos sobre vehículos, para apoyar los ataques y consolidar lo conquistado. Tengo 57 años y solo me engañaron la primera vez que vi una de estas. Cuando cayó el Bloque del Este en 1990-91 empezaron a aparecer algunos vehículos alemanes con los que hacer películas. Saludos cordiales, Marcos Suárez. España.

[@FIREBRAND38]

No, that's not the biggest sources of historical inaccuracy. Beginning with the narration, "To the north stood Montgomery's Eighth Army...." when they were in Italy at the time. The film was shot on location in the Sierra de Guadarrama mountain range and Madrid, Spain, which bear no resemblance to the rugged, heavily wooded Ardennes of Belgium, Luxembourg and Western Germany. Aside from the initial American encounters with the German offensive, the weather during filming was also at odds with the actual battle, which was fought during waves of heavy snow. The film's major tank battle scene, and some other battle scenes, were fought in flat, bare, arid territory. The film creates the false impression that large numbers of American tanks sacrificed themselves against heavy Tiger IIs and, in the process, lured the enemy off course, which caused them to run out of gas. In reality, they were already stranded.

[@kekzoet7487]

@@FIREBRAND38there was no snow at the beginning of the offensive (16 december). First snow fell on 22 december and even not in the entire sector.

[@T2Kron]

Yeah it’s was a 1000/10 movie for the time

[@JamesRowell-fj7uq]

As a USMC combat tanker. I love the M24 Sherman's lol I have drove both m4 and m24 m47 and m48 and m 60a3 . M41 was not bad and I know that they used what was at hand but still love the m24 as Sherman's

[@StephenSmith-zp7pf]

If ever a movie was screaming for a proper remake, this has to be at the top.

[@chestersleezer8821]

True but where would you get around 200 Tiger Tanks that will actually run?

[@marcusaurelius6012]

​@@chestersleezer8821from CGI

[@oledahammer8393]

Band of Brothers covered it pretty well...

[@StuartRyan-yi5ok]

Yes. The true story of the Ardennes offensive would make a monumental film if done properly. It is something you would really have to want bad enough to do justice to.

[@lemmdus2119]

Band of Brothers did a great job

[@JasperJokerII]

It was a great movie at the time. Remember these movies were only shown on TV ONCE a year usually at 1130 on a Saturday night. When you saw it in the TV guide you were stoked and couldn't wait

[@aaronblaylock2092]

We had a show called the 3:30 movie ahead of the five o'clock news on weekday afternoon in the San Francisco bay area and they played this movie and cut it into 2 parts to be shown on consecutive days. I remember as a 4th grader rushing home from school to catch both parts. still one of my favorite war films. I still hum the Panzer song after all these years!

[@memirandawong]

What is this thing you call TV GUIDE? For that matter what is a TV?😂😂

[@JasperJokerII]

@@memirandawong as soon as I posted that comment I thought, "better explain what a tv guide is "

[@kenstclair453]

Yes! Along with The Great Escape , The Longest Day and Kelly's Heroes.......and several others

[@JasperJokerII]

@@kenstclair453 where eagles dare and von ryans express

[@bpsitrep]

As a kid/teen whenever this movie came on TV, I watched it. My father was there in the Ardennes. He never forgot how he and his buddy Bowman survived a Tiger Tank shooting the tree they were hiding behind. One of the very few war stories he would tell.

[@henryluebberstedt7819]

Wow, I'm 60 and even my parents were born at the end of the war. How old are you?

[@aaronblaylock2092]

@@henryluebberstedt7819 My dad and my uncle were in WW2, my uncle was a Buffalo soldier 92nd infantry in Italy and my father was in the Pacific but i'm 58 so it all depends....

[@stuglenn1112]

@@henryluebberstedt7819 Well it depends. I'm 63 and my father was a WW2 vet and 19 years old in 1944. He was 36 when I was born so on the older side, if your parents were younger then it makes sense.

[@SlytherSnake]

That means the other half contains something to be ashamed of, such as genocide...

[@ukasz-zm9qc]

This "Tiger" was in reality most likely a Panzer IV.

[@PoochAndBoo]

The only thing accurate about this movie is that there actually was a "Battle of the Bulge." The equipment used is the very least of it. You've gotta love the blue skies, when the battle actually took place during the worst winter the Europe had experienced in over twenty years.

[@hhasslinger9601]

There is also one more accurate thing that I noticed from this clip. The breath clouds are visible when anyone breathes, so you could tell that it was actually cold outside during filming. That's actually something pretty rare in movies. Even Band Of Brothers didn't have that. Of course, there were a ton of inaccuracies in the movie, but it is cool to see a detail like that.

[@PoochAndBoo]

@@jeanmartin4446 No Soviet Tanks. Where did you see Russian tanks? They used American Pattons as Tigers and Chafee light tanks as Shermans.

[@fazole]

And later the a Panzers are attacking in a desert!

[@williamnelson9332]

Forsure ❤

[@stephenclarke2206]

I read recently that the scene where Hessler is presented with a chocolate cake was based on a true story

[@JohnHill-k6p]

Apparently, all the critics think you could just go down to the panzer tank U-Haul and rent tanks to make the movie😅

[@Foxrich99]

Considering how many Panzers still existed back then compared to today you basically could

[@tempestmkiv]

@@Foxrich99not Tigers you couldn’t.

[@Foxrich99]

@@tempestmkiv you could still build mockups of them like many russian movies and later spielberg did

[@isaned]

But couldn't they just use AI and CGI to make all the Tigers they needed for the shoot? *sarcasm*

[@harvey1954]

They always seem to have one when I need a rental while my Volkswagen is being repaired.

[@JohnHill-k6p]

I love how everybody’s nitpicking the film. It’s not a documentary. It’s not a training film. Do you think there was just hundreds of panzer tanks laying around that Hollywood could use? Just enjoy the movie or change the channel.

[@aaronblaylock2092]

I agree, it is great story telling and some of the shots and camera work is superb.

[@punchtalestudio]

Nobody was forced to do this crap

[@harvey1954]

Why do all the American casualties go into ballerina poses after they get hit ?

[@mistrzyoda87]

This film was denounced by former President (and Supreme Allied Commander in Europe during WW2) Dwight D. Eisenhower soon after its release in a press conference due to its glaring historical inaccuracies. Instead of snow some paint on the ground, instead of forests some lowland steppes, a Tiger II tank (Patton :D) shown as a secret weapon, although it was already fighting in Normandy in July 1944. This film is simply stupid and makes idiots out of viewers who would like to learn something about history :)

[@BumMcFluff]

It's not so much the lack of accurate equipment, it's the total lack of awareness of what this battle was about and where it was fought. It's akin to Braveheart and the battle of Stirling Bridge without the bridge.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Attack of the German M47's. Yeah, despite the inaccuracies, still one of my favourite WWII movies. Especially the big tank battle at the end.

[@wjhandy]

Telly Savalas played that one character throughout his entire career

[@harvey1954]

Note how when he runs out of grenades Telly throws his lollipop at the krauts.

[@BjarneLinetsky]

'Mental toughness' was his forte. i like his style.

[@kaluludhianvi]

He even advertised Bacardi Rum for a while with the same attitude.

[@holidayhouse03]

Who loves ya baby 😘

[@danw2112]

Take it easy Big Joe. Some of these people got sensitive feelings. 😂

[@rogerprice7704]

Whilst this a film adaptation… I cannot imagine the actual battle it must have been hell on earth for soldiers and that’s why I will not forget the fallen those that survived or those that still defend us everyday everywhere !

[@razorshark9320]

This film may be a fictional retelling of World War 2 history, but it is truly 100% entertaining and dramatic.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

They even started the movie with a text that they took various events that happened at various locations with different units and made them into one story, so they tell the viewer that it's not 100% historically accurate before going in

[@13Gangland]

So was Inglorious Bastards, but it's still a heck of a movie.

[@jeffharper9854]

Historically accurate? Not a bit. But I've loved this movie since i was a child. I'm 57 years old and this always makes want to break out my army men and tanks. Wish i still had them.

[@matthewjones39]

It is absolutely historically inaccurate, but it doesn’t really matter.

[@DPBGMODELRAILROAD]

It was so inaccurate that General of the Army Dwight D. Eisenhower came out of retirement to critize it!

[@paulgent9203]

Loved this movie when i was a kid taped it and would come home and watch it

[@siegfriedschulze5163]

What I appreciate is the sense for action without damned boring CGI. I can forgive some details. CHEERS.

[@oldesalt10310]

M-47 pattons painted German grey with iron crosses while filmed in Spain

[@brianlinke1856]

I read once the Army of Spain had a special 'Movie Office' that would lend much of its Korean War era or WW II era material to movie makers at great 'rental fees'. M-47's later were used by the IDF in the 1967 Six Day War (obtained from West Germany).

[@StuartRyan-yi5ok]

Even Dwight Eisenhower lamented the poor quality of this film when it was released.

[@bpsitrep]

Greek Army that played the Germans

[@stonewalljackson7590]

Trying to substitute M-47 tanks for Tigers really looks silly.

[@JohnHill-k6p]

They were really panzer that were in camouflage to make them look like American tanks lol that way they could sneak up on the Americans

[@PeterBall-w6c]

This was such a great battle, probably one of the best in the whole war. They should definitely remake it

[@ukasz-zm9qc]

"One of the best?" What kind of term is that for an event in which people are killed and maimed?

[@BumMcFluff]

@@ukasz-zm9qc Agreed. I would have said 'best known', or maybe even iconic. We should never forget that real people died or were maimed.

[@stephenfisher5129]

I agreed. It should've been a remake with the same 2.76.1 scope and with the soundtrack, with real locations and real tanks.

[@ukasz-zm9qc]

@@BumMcFluff Or he could have said one of the most interesting battles, because that's what it was. Describing a battle as one of the best is like saying one of the best car crashes, one of the best disasters, or one of the best shootings.

[@JohnKemipa]

I am aware he commented to my elder brothers that during that battle he and his tanks were placed in a bad position. One black soldier ran to the turret of one of tanks he commanded and opened fire on the Jerries and saved the whole tank group, but unfortunately died himself. My dad survived the war thank Christ.

[@aaronblaylock2092]

Did he use the 50. cal? Did he remember the soldier's name by any chance?

[@PlatoCave]

Impeccable cast. Grand scope. A truly epic war movie sadly underrated.

[@killakanzgaming]

Gotta love these old war films, with the dramatic "throw your hands in the air and twirl when you've been shot" thing... ... Literally everybody is doing it...

[@Maurice4470-]

10:26😂

[@harvey1954]

I know. Maybe hiring the major dancers from the New York Ballet wasn't such a good idea after all.

[@rogelioacobajr.6445]

I hope there will be a remake of this movie.

[@dammad8584]

Excellent movie, great cast and story. A remake would be awesome and true accounts included would be a epic film.

[@GillesDEIT]

Joke ? y hope

[@dammad8584]

@@GillesDEIT nope.

[@babuzzard6470]

I have it on DVD and still enjoy watching it.

[@Eudiamonia77]

Oh man I loved this movie.

[@TellySavalas-or5hf]

Great

[@babuzzard6470]

I’m more than happy with the great actors featured in it. What a cast.

[@memirandawong]

For everyone complaining about hardware accuracy, thank you for learning history. For those that are unaware, I truly feel for you.

[@stevecarey2030]

Well how many running Tiger 2s were there at that time. Zero is my guess. They maybe could have got some Shermans if they filmed in Yugoslavia like Kelly's Heros. So what were they supposed to do?

[@whiskeymonk4085]

Nuts! My grandfather was an original member of the band of brothers.

[@mrbaab5932]

The original 'band of brothers' was English men fighting in the 100 years war with France 🇫🇷 in the Middle Ages.

[@whiskeymonk4085]

@@mrbaab5932 It goes back millenias. War is Hell.

[@petercarr3686]

My best friend's dad was a medic band of bros.producers used him as a consultant.

[@aaronblaylock2092]

That's exciting, was he depicted in the series?

[@aaronblaylock2092]

@@petercarr3686 Did he share any stories with you guys?

[@Freddie-x4s]

Robert Shaw just brilliant as the tank commander

[@crystalr7602]

My great uncle was in this battle and I feel rather proud to have a relative that was part of it. His first nephew just passed, he was 101st AB. My father was a chief petty officer on a supply ship during Korea. History is the key. I watch this movie quite often and get grief from the other girls in the house. Too bad. Wish I could have been there..... there was way more respect for each other back in these days too and they didn't put up with bad politicians like Kamelion Harris and that bozo Walz. Walz's own brother is against him. Sorry all, kinda lost my head in the revery of yesteryear.

[@harvey1954]

Ballz to the Walz ?

[@BillOptional]

even as a kid when I say this in a theatre- I knew we would when because we had Charles Bronson on our side!

[@JohnKemipa]

My dad participated in that battle. He wrote a letter to his dad which he kept where it reads: Dad, war is hell.

[@derblitz5837]

and it always becomes hell if you interfere where you have no business being.

[@Марат-ж7в]

😅

[@robertphillips6296]

Imagine what modern film making could do with this Movie?

[@TOBYH]

COMPARE IT TO PRIVATE RYAN, LOOK HOW CGI CAN MAKE IT LOOK, YOU WANT 100 PANZERS, YOU GOT IT, GOOD MOVIE THOUGH.SO MANY TROOPS ON EITHER SIDE JUST FROZE TO DEATH.

[@stevecarey2030]

Twenty five years ago it would have been great. Mostly practical effects like Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers. If they made it today it would be awful, unwatchable CGI. No thanks.

[@danielwolfe4169]

the explosions and dirt effects are super good in this movie its just the acting and tactics that look it look dumb

[@Soucka74]

This is actually a pretty good war film in it's way. It doesn't show any specific battle during the Bulge but, it does a good job to get across the confusion and the frightened green troops, the Maonedt massacre and even Bastinge. Granted, during the movie those scenes are truly respective representations of the incidents only generalizations. It's very entertaining and i loved it as a 12 yr old. The Germans singing scene actually gave me goose bumps and I even learned the words to the song. For what it us, a good general war movie irrespective of the actual Battle of the Bulge. Just enjoy it, not very many movies vack then were meant to be historically accurate portrays of the specific battles.

[@FIREBRAND38]

One of the most historically *inaccurate* war movies of all time. Right up there with _The Devil's Brigade._

[@sonrouge]

"Historically inaccurate" is too kind. "Historically ignorant" is more fitting.

[@Lajs657]

Yes. But it was well done and is funny.

[@FIREBRAND38]

@@sonrouge That's still to kind. Historically ignorant just means they didn't know the history. Historically stupid means they chose to disregard the facts. And no, I'm not talking about the lack of Tiger tanks for filming.

[@FIREBRAND38]

@@Lajs657 Yeah, one of those laugh riots where people die in batches on screen.

[@jamesbutler8821]

​@@sonrougeWillfully so. It's like they deliberately tried to make it wrong

[@BjarneLinetsky]

A lot of history buffs like myself love to pore over anecdotes from vets, read monographs and treatises, maps, books, watch movies etc. but remember this: these guys were basically green troops fighting in desperate conditions, with leadership who were new to the art of war in Europe. Under these difficult conditions they rose to the challenge. They earned the title "The Greatest Generation" Hand Salute!

[@MH-53E]

We have come so far so fast, too fast for our own good. This was a top of the line, A list movie. I remember watching it's television premier as a kid. Everyone knew weeks in advance when it was coming on. No telling how many millions watched this movie that evening. Equipment, CGI and filming techniques, everything is just so different...

[@MrPeterhemm]

Loved this one as a 7 year-old who had these tanks and loads of army men! They're all so clean shaven! 😆

[@marktaylor5303]

There is one operational Tiger 1 left in the world. It is in Bovington England. The only operational Tiger 2 is in France

[@aaronblaylock2092]

They used the Tiger in Fury

[@matthiasbader9206]

still, in the Deutsches panzer museum münster, there is a Tiger 1. who is currently being made fit again. it is to be made roadworthy again kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZmrY4V6Z9GsbLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52xn3uEdr-Kpbc

[@marktaylor5303]

@aaronblaylock2092 the Sherman from Fury is at Bovington too

[@chiefbigtoe7260]

this is my favorite WW2 movie, I love Savalas!!!

[@travisgill307]

I think this movie is wildly entertaining! The plethora of inacuricies just make it moreso!

[@plasmadrone3123]

it's sad that the latter half of the movie shows the main tank battle, set in the Ardennes during the winter, in a bloody dry desert with full winter equipment. what the heck were they thinking? the first half is at least has the winter theme going.

[@vincentharriman3283]

@@plasmadrone3123 I'm guessing the Spanish authority wanted at least part of the film filmed in Spain as part of the deal supplying armour.

[@daskommandantkrieger2503]

Our fine men singing Panzerlied was the best scene in the film.

[@colinsorrells8755]

I just love watching these old WW2 comedies from the sixties.

[@MrZodac]

Even Eisenhower thought that this Film was pure nonsense.

[@derblitz5837]

But American lose is real, and the OP German Tanks.

[@harvey1954]

And I like Ike.

[@peterbrown8880]

Fantastic entertaining War Film, very inaccurate, but so are countless films. Love it!!! PS What a cast!!

[@burnlootmurder5348]

One of my favorite movies.

[@philippejenvrin2741]

Very good movie !❤

[@ealingwest5750]

Many years later I realise why my father scoffed and laughed at this and other TV silliness. He did not fight in the Ardennes but went through North Africa, Sicily & Italy during the misunderstanding with Mr.Hitler

[@Wonzling0815]

Then it was probably his fault that there were not enough Panzers for movies later!

[@harvey1954]

Schkelgrubber remover.

[@jeffnorbert1871]

Great job by Fonda. Quite a different character from his role in the movie In Harms Way. Nailed them both!

[@nelvaldo.4850]

My late grandfather told me that they ran out of fuel.

[@ggregd]

Only in the movie. In the real world they were beaten by superior forces. Really, it was never going to work, it was just one of the boss' fantasies.

[@commanderiosifstalin4938]

@@ggregd That was because the weather got better, so the American airforce could bomb the German ground forces.

[@vidright]

@@ggregd You obviously don't know the historical truth. There were two reasons why the German offensive failed. Firstly, the weather improved and the Allies were able to exploit their overwhelming air superiority. Secondly, the tanks ran out of fuel.

[@aaronblaylock2092]

@@vidright It was a huge gamble, they knew they only had enough to fight for a short time unless they captured the allies supply.

[@vidright]

@@aaronblaylock2092 That‘s true.

[@imaginationworkshopstudio]

Classic Masterpiece of a War picture. Love this picture!

[@brav0wing]

Ah, Quint, before chasing Sharks he was an SS Panzer commander while at the same time serving on the USS Indianapolis.

[@bobhope288]

Used to love watching these movies with my dad. Dirty dozen , Patton, big red one.

[@GDP105]

I thought, that ordinary tanks was fought from distance. Half are moving, and second half support them.

[@robertcooper6853]

That is a much more accurate tactic. It’s called over watch. As in, one section/platoon/company is watching over the movement of another. The first element moves up. Then the over watch element moves up to join them and/or advance beyond while the first element becomes the over watch. Repeat until contact with the enemy is made or your objective is reached.

[@fazole]

There's a lot WW2 films yet to be made. The German counter attacks at Avranche, the Hürtgen Forest campaign (yes, HBO did a low budget one called "When Trumpets Fade", and Falaise Gap battle.

[@Foxrich99]

When Trumpets fade wasn't that bad actually, one of Hollywoods better movies imo

[@azexnewmai3607]

After band of brothers,the pacific and masters of the air… HBO should make a big budget miniseries about the Chindits

[@jacquesstrapp3219]

@@Foxrich99 It was fairly accurate too. At least the German guns and vehicles looked accurate.

[@ulissedazante5748]

​@@Foxrich99for sure low budget (and the BMP-1 pimped up to be a "panzer" will make M47 'King Tigers' look good), but as far as drama and story "When Trumpets Fade" is indeed not bad at all.

[@Foxrich99]

@ulissedazante5748 the bmp panzer sure were a little silly but they actually did look like Panzer IVs, you could tell from just looking at them without the movie needing to tell you what they're supposed to be like they do here

[@gearhead1227]

the war battle that showed Europe america can really fight well.

[@prachisuryawanshi7359]

In the midst of war so calm and nice environment.

[@lloydclement2152]

The allies missed all intelligence that warned of an impending attack.

[@stevecarey2030]

Yes and no. One thing Hitler did right in this battle is he really kept it hush hush. Nothing on the radio at all so Ultra didn't pick it up. And the Allies really did think the Germans were finished by this time. So sure they missed some things, but it wasn't blatantly obvious. Plus their plan was just plain idiotic so was hard to guess they would do it. But what they should have realized was Hitler knew he was a dead man if they lost the war so no plan was idiotic to him if it had even a 1% chance of success, which is probably all it had.

[@eekinelsa]

In Fury they used a actual Tiger borrowed from the Tank Museum...sure makes a big difference! There is nothing like a Tiger

[@barneylinet6602]

Yes the Teutons had a fondness for thick armor, and ugliness for its shock value. Why there is a whole school of reinforced concrete bunker architecture, with monuments dotting the landscape. Noted for the characteristic 5 meter thick roof featuring gracefully rounded cornices

[@spriddy69]

It wasn’t the Pattons only that made this movie bad.. it was the writing, dialogue, music, and the 10 million cameos.

[@peterloader974]

The two scale Tank models at 8:48 are damn good.

[@jamesbutler8821]

Would have been nice if this movie had been made by someone with the slightest knowledge of WW2, military tactics and training, and acting, at least by the supporting actors

[@seandobson499]

Robert Shaw, did a good acting job in this film, but that's about all it had going for it.

[@James-zp5po]

You want knowledge of WW2 really you think you can handle the real truth of the knowledge of WW2 big man ok there were no Japanese planes at pearl harbor d day was a drill there was no HCT and nukes don't exist so no nukes at Nagasaki and no nukes at Hiroshima so there you go big man just a little taste

[@mikeoyler2983]

I love the description on the Wikipedia page: "The film is a highly fictionalized account of the battle. The filmmakers attempted to condense the Battle of the Bulge, a World War II battle that stretched across parts of Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg and lasted nearly a month, into under three hours, and shot parts of the film on terrain, and in weather, that did not remotely resemble the actual battle conditions. That left them open to criticism for lack of historical accuracy, but they claimed in the end credits that they had "re-organized" the chronological order of events to maximize the dramatic story." I agree with the director and producers - reality sucks!

[@paulguzman1634]

Movie was good enough, but using M47's as King Tigers just ain't right to me. Never got over that.

[@lucavidon3082]

e dove li andavano a prendere tutti quei Koenigtiger?

[@jamesbutler8821]

I can forgive them that, as there are few operable German tanks, certainly not as many as required, but there were plenty of working Shermans that could have been rustled up

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@jamesbutler8821 Question is bullet, can they risk it to maintain such tanks?

[@BrianLesliePerry]

l first saw this film on a ship l was crew on. The crew was comprised mostly by 'Baby Boomers' we saw through this film straight away...It wasn't quite an insult to those who took part ...but it comes close...

[@jacquesstrapp3219]

@@lucavidon3082 Same place Saving Private Ryan got theirs. They modified a T-34 to look like Tiger.

[@radbilcz]

In Poland, the series Czterej Pancernych i pies (Four Armoured and a Dog) was filmed in the 1960s. Instead of Panthers and Tigers, cardboard-covered t-34s were used. In one scene you can see the firing of a "Tiger" where the exhaust gas brake falls off during firing.

[@rudielster9286]

Ist das nicht eine sowjetische Serie ? Und der wirkliche Name ist doch: Vier Hunde und ein Panzersoldat. Zumindest, wenn man das Können der sowjetischen Soldaten berücksichtigt.

[@radbilcz]

@@rudielster9286Es war eine polnische Serie. Die Russen waren während des Zweiten Weltkriegs gar nicht so schlecht. Nicht so schlimm wie jetzt in der Ukraine, wo sie zu Hunderten in Stürmen sterben.

[@rudielster9286]

@@radbilcz OK, was gelernt. Ich habe die auch nie gesehen. Eine Armee, die soviel Verluste hat, obwohl sie zu den Siegern gehörte, kann nicht wirklich gut gewesen sein.

[@Openthedoor-kk]

No son Tiger, son M47 Patton

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

Yeah, but how Tigers left at that time and well.... that is reliable that would not cost too much maintenance? You can blame how the events though but as for the tanks? well they have better reasons for it, events are not sorry for my English

[@dennisyoung4631]

There was the one (tiger 1) at Bovington, and a few others; and the same for king tigers - a few, one or two “operational” (in museums) and a few others. Only way to do one of these films rightly would be to make a dozen or so “decent replicas” with the right type of engines, etc.

[@alexrebmann1253]

Loved this movie

[@JohnSchafer-rs2nh]

So, the tanks are M-48 Patton tanks it's not easy to get Tiger 1 or Panther tanks .

[@MarkSteele-bh3hb]

Agree, there weren't many German tanks left operating at the end of the war!

[@zbyszekw5317]

Można było ucharakteryzować na tygrysy, pantery

[@EdwardCarey-pf3ho]

M-47 m-48 didn't have hull machine gun.

[@jamesbutler8821]

Kelly's Heroes somehow managed it around this same time

[@MarkSteele-bh3hb]

@jamesbutler8821 They got lucky and they only had three. Battle of the Bulge thet needed more tanks!

[@juanmanuelparadacontreras9565]

Una de las escenas más memorables de esta icónica película del género bélico. Todo un gran reparto de actores de primera línea en dar vida sus personajes de la talla de un Robert Shaw y Henry Fonda entre otros más.

Wonder how M9 rifle grenades would do against king tiger tanks?

[@robertcooper6853]

Scratch the paint on the frontal armor. Might mangle some exterior parts such as radio antenna if they hit the roof. It’s just a small HE round. Not much bang. Lots of shrapnel in a small area. Need at least a decent sized shaped charge warhead to do anything. Even the bigger bazookas we had didn’t do much unless you got a lucky hit on a track or the engine compartment in the rear.

[@georgesykes394]

​@robertcooper6853 If you're lucky maybe a mobility kill.

[@robertcooper6853]

@@georgesykes394 yep and a tank that can’t move still makes a helluva pillbox!

[@Wonzling0815]

That depends on the situation. If the M9 grenade has a good place to hide, the King Tiger will probably break down after a day or run out of something essential.

[@stephenfisher5129]

Battle of the Bulge (1965) wasn't that bad in my opinion. The filmmakers and the director did at least try their best they could, even though the M47 tanks and the movie being filmed in Spain, this film was based on the real battle being fictional at best. It's at least an entertaining and dramatic war film despite a major of flaws throughout this Cinearama epic war film.

[@housemaged]

I just realized that the Battle of Hoth in The Empire Strikes Back could've been inspired by this scene.

[@loudelk99]

Would love to redo this and use CGI to create tiger and panther tanks.

[@Foxrich99]

Oh god no, anything but more cgi movies

[@jacquesstrapp3219]

@@Foxrich99 CGI would look a lot better than using tanks from the Cold War.

[@Wonzling0815]

Bah, just watch/play Hell Let Loose or similar. It's even better because you don't know beforehand who'll win :)

[@Foxrich99]

@@jacquesstrapp3219 only if you're to lazy to dress them up as ww2 tanks wich many movies have done pretty well

[@jacquesstrapp3219]

@@Foxrich99 I said the same thing on another thread. CGI looks best when it's combined with live actors like the LOTR did. Since a panzer division could have over 500 tanks, CGI would be the only realistic way to depict large formations.

[@pixelwings821]

Is Bronson and Savalas in THIS too?? wow. Must have liked playing GIs together.

[@DannyBGer]

And a few years later they came in "The dirty Dozen" with Robert Ryan as supporting Cast.

[@pixelwings821]

@@DannyBGer Yeah, that was in my mind :D

[@Cugier-sf2vo]

Die wehrmacht geht mit M47 an den Feind…..genial

[@DannyBGer]

In Spanien gab es keinerlei deutsche Panzermodelle. Funfact: Der M47 war zu der Zeit auch bei der BW in Verwendung.

[@Cugier-sf2vo]

@@DannyBGer achso…Du meinst die neue Wehrmacht

[@joevanseeters2873]

FURY with Brad Pitt is the best Tank movie I have ever seen. Very realistic, at least by the terms of a "movie" and entertainment. I wish the director of FURY would make some more World War II era movies because they did an excellent job. This movie was a big budget film back in the day but the technology is so outdated compared to movies being made in 2024. Technology in film making has come a long way since this movie was made.

[@高井保弘-f8x]

大好きな映画！歌ってるとこが特に好き💯！

[@stevenliu279]

At least that would make it more authentic and convincing!

[@christosandreopoulos5665]

The German Panzers are U.S M47!!

[@maksmaks3214]

Танки на ИС похожие, у немцев таких не было..

[@quattrocchiantonello]

Proprio carri tedeschi! Ma va a fan

[@Iron-Bridge]

The Hoth battle at the early part of Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back was inspired by this.

Telly Savalas’ head deflecting a 88mm shell!

[@tomk3732]

They should redo the movie with triangles on the tanks and rename it Battle of Kursk 2024. At least US supplied equipment would be spot on and blue sky.

[@elizabethmchenry3102]

Weapons look like they are from WW1! The battle of the Bulge was fought in deep snow and blizzards on the first day.

[@commanderiosifstalin4938]

In the Soviet Union back then, the Soviet filmmakers used the real funtional German tanks. For example, in Падение Берлина (The Fall of Berlin), direted by Mikheil Chiaureli, released in 1950, 45 captured German tanks were used.

[@aaronblaylock2092]

They had an advantage as the Germans left a ton of equipment and abandoned armor. They are still finding things to this day.

[@pma0224y]

Spanish Army was very genrous. They offered M47 and M24 tanks to represent KingTiger and Sherman. They also provided M3 half track for SdKfz 251.

[@elihu217qd5150]

I don’t care what tanks they used. I can let my imagination fill in the blanks. At least it’s not all CGI garbage.

[@Foxrich99]

They didn't even try to modify the tanks to make them look german. A lack of practical effects is still a lack, even when there's no shitty cgi to replace it

[@TimothyHall-r9q]

One of my favorite army movies

[@tmontgomery7592]

Find the irony of them using patton tanks as German ones to be hilarious.

[@commanderiosifstalin4938]

Well, the filmmakers were idiots. They should have flown to the Soviet Union and borrowed some funtional German tanks from there. The Soviet filmmakers used real funtional German tanks in their war films back then.

[@claytonbrannon3060]

I had a friend who was captured at the Battle of the Bulge because his Lt. couldn't read a map and they were out of position when the onslaught hit, if he had them where they were supposed to be they would have been 10 miles away from where he was captured.

[@vampi-chan3793]

I love how in the comments everyone mentions that they are not using historically accurate tanks but then 90% of them cannot correctly identify the tanks used in the movie 😂😂

[@marckg6950]

Everyone knows it's a BGT. Big green tank

[@sammywestenberger9303]

Hessler: Halt!

[@徳田あきも]

Sehr gut!

[@Flak_Dancer]

The funny is probably during that time where this movie was filmed, Spanish army still having few Panzer IV and Stug in running order.

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

How many? since they're quite more reliable than Panthers and above

[@東川和生]

So great !

[@elkdronebelgium3516]

I did'nt know that Germans had Patton tanks.

[@DannyBGer]

But in the German Federal Defense Force those Tanks were in Service from 1955 until 1995.

[@Lajos_Kelemen]

What a coincidence, it was just on TV last night.

[@najaklar6737]

Your phone is listening They know

[@DoomderX]

1:22 u can tell thats CGI when the tanks are moving hes just standing there.

[@EdwardCarey-pf3ho]

I think think that's rear projection. Check out the dropship crash in aliens it's one of the best done examples.

[@jamesbutler8821]

They didnt have CGI back then

[@nddavi58]

cgi in 1965??!! 😂

[@robertcooper6853]

No, they filmed the tanks moving and then projected it on a screen behind Robert Shaw. He was in a small mockup in front of the screen. That’s why it appears his tank didn’t move when the others did.

[@JohnHill-k6p]

Really you think when this film was made that they had CGI? What year was this film produced and what year did they start using CGI for movies?

[@classicgunstoday1972]

This is how it should have looked the entire movie. Snow! I see a lot of influence on The Battle of Hoth in Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back here

[@sam74mumm]

Great cast, mediocre movie. Expecially how theatralical and melodramatical the soldiers scream and die, it´s hilarious.

[@harvey1954]

And hearing Shaw cry out from his Panzer, "We're gonna need a bigger boat", makes absolutely no sense at all.