WARNING - 2 Items That Can RUIN Side Quests (Shadow Of The Erdtree)

[@AJ2099]

An item that actually messes up a quest line is the scroll you give to ansbach. If you give it to him before talking to freyja and getting the letter from ansbach for her in the specimen storehouse he disappears and you can no longer advance freyjas quest. This happened to me and I was pissed because you find the scroll before you find freyja. Wait to give him the scroll until after you’ve talked to freyja in shadow keep and delivered to her the letter from ansbach or ur just screwed.

[@jessetaylor5]

This happened to me, I'm still so mad about it

[@iwanttoknowmore]

There is still one more opportunity to get the Letter if you still have Leda's quest. Her second request involves Ansbach. If you assist her and defeat Ansbach through the summon sign that appears at his location in Shadow Keep, the letter will be there on return. You also get some talismans if you assist Leda both times.

[@jessetaylor5]

@@iwanttoknowmore But then you won't get to summon Ansbach during the last two fights of the game, right?

[@iwanttoknowmore]

@jessetaylor5 Indeed, but you can still do the Sleep guy questline and get his help during the final fight.

[@SSNebula]

I thankfully save scummed before burning the tree 😂 but I do feel that pain! I had a similar situation with the Milicent quest line 😅

[@Locustmusic]

You don’t ruin anything. It’s designed the way it is to have you do multiple playthroughs. Do your thing through your game. Have difficulty. Have fun. Have reward.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

When you get the spirit summon instead of the katana it ruins it 😭

[@meatonthetable1602]

Yeah I didn't get no katana that sucks...

[@meatonthetable1602]

But I used emote and moved her chair away and went down stairs and killed invader... should have used your method..

[@colorpg152]

bad design

[@CellThe-perfect-life-form]

@@meatonthetable1602the katana is not even good bruh

[@gandarf80]

You can then head to a Tower and talk to a puppet to get the Jolan and Anna summon as a duo summon, the tower on the right before the Metyr church, though you need to jump down to it from the area above it

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Thanks for sharing this Gandarf!!!

[@ecoshock8802]

So i can still get a jolan and anna summon without new game plus after i choose katana?

[@colvamoon6962]

​@ecoshock8802 unfortunately not. Maybe you can get Anna, but the joint summon can only be done if you interact with Anna while having the Jolan spirit ashes.

[@Floaydi]

​@@colvamoon6962you cannot get Anna on her own sadly.

[@debrie7046]

I got the summons because i saw a video of jolan and anna reducing rellana's health bar to a quarter. Then i finally began to use the paired summons on other bosses and felt real dissapointed and saw that the performance wasnt consistent. Realized later that i shouldve gotten sword of night instead.

[@cynreiusacari3163]

A commenter pointed out that if you have morgott’s shackle you can use it there instead of shattering the rocks. I tried it and it worked which was a relief because I was being stalked by a wickerman with no way out.😂

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

OH?

[@gabrob3449]

@@PhillyBeatzGames yeah it is a hit and so can activate stuff u need to hit with, i did used those shackles in some labyrinth to activate /desactivate pillars

[@petera1117]

@@gabrob3449it reveals hidden walls

[@Khotetsu]

Yep, both Morgott's and Mohg's Shackles work for activating any environmental objects that work when you hit them, and because they're designed to be used in boss arenas, they have a massive area of effect both horizontally and vertically. I've seen them turn off two of the pillars in one cast before, and I accidentally broke a labyrinth puzzle where you kill all the giant blender chariots when you hit a pillar because I used it somewhere above the pillar and it activated it. They also work on invisible walls, so you can hit them occasionally as you go through an area and check every wall in a room at once.

[@manyarch885]

Shattering what rocks??

[@henabeatzu]

Thank you for making this video! No one has made a concise guide like yours. Subbed.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Thanks for the sub!

[@gsilvay]

At around 16:59, you missed an item/ Seal. If you actually go into the room behind the Fire Knight, then go behind the statue, you can find the Fire Knight's Seal.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

!!!! Thanks for pointing this out to me. I’m still learning haha

[@geneticjen9312]

​@@PhillyBeatzGames Some of us spot that easily because we approach a totally different way and end up dropping down into that room after trying to get the item on the statue's hand (after draining water)

[@SlickDangler10]

You can use then in different places as well. From Queelign and also the Swordhand of Night Jolan . The occultation ones give you the weapons and the other gives you an ash summon. So theres actuallt two people you can use the iris's on.

[@nokksec5104]

I like how this video showed up in my feed like an hour after I got one of these and went “I wonder what this does” :’)

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

I’m so sorry 😭

[@tyshred9251]

lol same here

[@shawnmiller1432]

I just got one last night and was wondering the same thing lol

[@andreak2193]

I'm so annoyed. I did this whole quest without even realizing there was a second person in the room, talking to them, or doing all the iris things. All I got was the outfit and the mothering staff.

[@RelativelyBest]

Got the Iris of Grace in the Secret Tree Worship place, had no idea what it was for. I'll always pick a sword over spirit ashes, even if I don't plan on ever really using them, so I guess it's kinda useless to me.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Weapons All Day! You Understand!

[@LordofPainValak]

Eh, I'd rather pick spirit ashes. Weapons can be traded and dropped by other players while spirit ashes don't.

[@Thorfinn00_]

​@@LordofPainValakSpirit Ashes is for noobs.

[@timmichel7611]

I wanted the weapon and gave him the wrong Iris damn i m a thrusting sword Player by the way 🤮🤮🤮

[@Kacper-jw3bv]

​@@Thorfinn00_ ye sure bud

[@Dgree.23]

“It’s very dangerous out here use that wall for protection “ bro got so serious 😂

[@jawn93]

sorry this is going to be a long comment in my first playthrough I accidentally consumed the iris of occultation and found out it was tied together to get the sword I found out there was a way to get another one while going up to hit that lever to drain the water there's that ulcerated tree spirit that jumps into the water after the water was drained I wound up dying to something before killing the one under the ground in that circular area when I respond at the grace I automatically got the iris of occultation not sure if that's a bug or what not but if anybody has accidentally consumed theirs that they got in that castle after killing the Oni this is another way that I found I guess maybe it could have been a bug I'm not sure cuz it was kind of strange but hopefully this help somebody

[@Shadic24367]

If you go out of your way to shoot the swimming tree spirit twice while the place is flooded, it will swim out to a place I couldn't see, then when I hit the switch to lower the water, I guess it was above the giant fall as it died and I got the iris without a fight

[@voxi3127]

Did this too and I was sooo confused I had to look up a video about the iris

[@luigi999ish]

This was interesting to see what I missed. But if people just want the Katana they can skip a large portion of all these steps, go for an eye of occultation and be done without facing any ulcerated tree spirits or bosses except for the invaders and main boss at the end during the church sequence.

[@piersa8704]

I don’t know what happened but I got the second eye of occultation randomly while in the church district and the second ulcerated tree spirit isn’t spawning, so I think it died somehow.

[@kevinz3905]

When I first saw the UTS beneath the water, I dropped a hefty lightning pot on it and moved on. When I got to the rafters after the fire knight I received a bunch of runes and the second one never spawned after draining the water.

[@Devilyaki]

oh i didn't know there were more of those things..

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Yup!!! 4 Opportunities!

[@Semperf11]

Same I’m like damn let me hop on real quick 😂 I got some of these graces already. Appreciate the video bro ima sub up I stream on KZbin I’d love. Sub from anyone 😭😂

[@Semperf11]

@@PhillyBeatzGamesthank you

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

@@Semperf11 Ill check out your stream bro!!

[@Semperf11]

@@PhillyBeatzGames oh shoot!! nice man thanks 😁

[@aziz-dailycommentsandmore9086]

thanks for all the videos, I truly thinks those are the best guides out there.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Appreciate it

[@RelativelyBest]

So, weird thing happened. After draining the waters from the Church District, I kinda didn't feel like dealing with the tree spirits so I left and did other stuff for a while, mostly exploring the map and trying to find more Scadutree Fragments. Once I ran out of things to do, I decided to go back and take care of them. So I fast travel to the Church District Entrance and _immediately_ get an Iris of Occultation. I go down and kill the tree spirit that gives you the sorcery, but the other one isn't there. It's just gone. I have no idea how this happened. Maybe it clipped out of the map and died somehow, but I don't think I got any runes.

[@tsuirorankami5243]

Same exact thing happened to me. Maybe we triggered something that instantly killed the second tree spirit. In any case, I felt relieved. Those enemies are so annoying

[@noodles6390]

@@tsuirorankami5243 Yeah happened to me too but I didn't got the Iris of Occultation but I need it for the Katana. :O ... damn... PS: Went back again and I wasn't at the second spot ... how embarrassing. 😅 I shouldn't play when I'm too tired.

[@thenealog]

I gave Jolan the occulat knowing I would get sword over ashes and grace to Queeling, but I still have/found(?) another iris of grace... for WHAT?

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

The video after this or for your next new game +

[@kayhaich]

its pointless getting all 4. You only need 2 max for 2 quests.

[@thenealog]

Thanks guys!

[@patdav56]

You can also technically use them as rune arc replacements

[@bonelessskeleton1846]

I don’t understand where is the “Ruin” part here for side quests?

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Go the night katana video on my channel and look at the comment section to see the RUINED part lol

[@Nazgul265]

@@PhillyBeatzGamesJust went to that video and don’t see anything in the comments section. Just seems like a hella clickbaity title

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

@@Nazgul265 Yea no you didn't . The number one complaint is that people used the wrong iris. Thats why I made this video

[@Angels-Haven]

@@PhillyBeatzGames sounds like clickbait to me

[@conormcgregor8451]

@@PhillyBeatzGamesyou’re a liar you know that’s not what you meant in the title stop click baiting bro it’s not cool.

[@tomlukas7824]

You have the choice to give Jolan the good iris to get her ash, then you can make the ash better with the puppet of anna on top of the tower in the church district (forgot the name) You can reach it through the shaman village

[@faresalmomen5858]

you can get TWO iris of occultation. if you accidentally gave it to the dude in the prayer room you can still get the katana in the same run.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

yes I show the two in the video

[@faresalmomen5858]

@@PhillyBeatzGames yeah my bad i didn’t watch the whole video. i only saw what i missed.

[@73emilitus]

great video, for real but what really matters is, how did you change the control images from the Xbox controller to keyboard

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

I touched my keyboard I’m on steam

[@xxcek]

Thank you so much for this tut man :)

[@friendlyguy5462]

I didn’t know what it was and I used it to only loose all my ruins 😊.

[@landoncube769]

Lol if you read the description it says it'll grant you a great rune activation in turn losing all your runes. That's depressing

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@leroyjenkins9519]

The boss fight that was mentioned near the end of the video, well worth the rewards! However, it was very annoying. You'll see for yourself, good luck. Thank you for this video. The step by step process was perfect.

[@YTDariuS-my6dg]

Mind split like a banana between appreciating the nice guide and making jokes about the "Church _of_ District" and "Marika's _Ruin_ "

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

I was also split recording that

[@YoChetti]

Love the background music! Thanks for the helpful tips

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Pixelkip]

woah had no idea you could get two of each, already used my occultation for the shadow katana, sweet!!

[@camdenb_]

How is the shadow katana? Thinking of going for it

[@Pixelkip]

@@camdenb_ I really like it but it definitely has to be timed right or you get whalloped lol

[@YungSnupe]

Guys. Please help. I consumed 1 occultation by accident and used the other on the other nonsense. But for the 3rd one which I still haven’t killed the tree spirit . He doesn’t spawn for me

[@electricvision1523]

I got two iris of occultation. I didn’t know I could get more than one. Has anyone else gotten more?

[@kayhaich]

Needlessly thorough video. You don't need all 4, and you don't need to hold their hand every step of the way across the world.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

When I got into Elden Ring i liked hand holding in videos

[@jeggzzzz]

Got Iris of Grace for the secret area. I haven't used my current stock of either Iris at this point and my side quests are up to date prior to the Messmer fight. Just for the record. I wonder what the condition is. :/

[@ranz1337]

I´ve gave the Iris of occultation to Jolin and the Iris of Grace to the other guy. Then I found this room and looted the Iris of Grace at that Statue. That means, I have to enter NG+ unfortunately

[@Phycofeeds]

Are jolan and queelign the only 2 that you can use the iris’ with?

[@RhynoE28]

Only thing i wish i knew when doing fire knight quest was you can get another eye on inoculation or whatever. Didn't get his weapon and just got the ash of war and i do have the sword of night which i used it for that quest.

[@djchriswill]

I killed the sunflower boss and when I went to the gravesite to fight the second tree spirt I received the iris of occultation and no fight.

[@Raspstrike]

turn left here, video turns right ... yes

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

if you turn off the volume, and follow it the video guide works. lol

[@LaughingRam]

Hmm, I think I might of went too far and screwed up this quest? I have made it all the way to the final boss, but haven't fought him yet. I swear I had more irises in my inventory before I got there. Also, when I tried to get the Iris of Occultation location #1 at 5:14, nothing dropped. I might have beat him earlier and maybe his iris disappeared while progressing to the last boss.

[@vsvaysolini]

I accidentally used the shaow iris before meeting the knight. You can find another one by continuing the story and draining water for the shadow keep area and fighting a erdtree dragon thing to receive it

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Yes that’s in the video haha

[@l.o.l7049]

I dunno how to explain it but i got a weird glitch or something I got 2 eyes of occultation. I grabbed the first one from the omen killer part way through the ymir questline. And the used it on you know who. And then I went to the church district. Died somehow. Respawned and boom. Another eye

[@ashvella5513]

grace gives summon, night gives weapon?

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Yes

[@brianwilliamswillo]

wait...i sat there 20mins wondering how i could ruin dome side quests, and tgat wasn't even part of it,just normal quest steps!...good explanation etc and appreciated, but a little misleading my friend. ..anyway thx for info 👍

[@henrikmygren]

Lol followed this guide got my first Iris of occulation in Fort of Reprimand. And Also my first Iris of Grace in Shadow Keep. But once I used the grace of Curch district entrance and was gonna take the lift on the left. I heard something die and got my 2nd Iris of Occulation for free :P? Did not need to kill anything for it :D

[@ksanderjoestar8534]

Church district highroad why Nothing is there?? any secret above?

[@hoseamatthews5302]

Can someone please tell me the armor he's using in the first seconds of the video?

[@orcsbase]

so.....what choice will ruin the side quest? I don't get it....just ash or weapon choice?that doesn't seem ruin anything

[@rich1231]

I got Iris of Grace @18:00

[@keepsakegames6847]

Its just gives you Back the grace you used on queelign. I used the iris of grace and the statue gave me it back.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

I used the iris of occultation and got the iris of grace from the statue so I dont think this theory is right. Got anything else you can think of?

[@maras00jr49]

​@PhillyBeatzGames I think it gives you the one you don't have in your inventory. I went through the church district first and only had the dark iris, which I gave to prayer room npc. Picked up the 2nd dark iris from the ulcerated tree sprit. I missed the first iris of grace and only had a dark iris. When i collected the item infront of the statue I got the grace iris.

[@mattg5535]

I ended up getting the summon wish I would have gotten the weapon I hear it's sweet.

[@bossgbini]

I haven't done either mission fully yet but I snagged 2 black Iris' and 1 of grace.

[@leekebot1802]

I got a iris of grace at the church at the end. That was in the afternoon yesterday.

[@jonnyf9049]

as i see here there are 2 of the black eyes. good to know! thx man!

[@pepperonigawd]

Just give iris of occultation to both. Even if you care about spirit ashes, they are all trash compared to mimic and tiche

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

agree

[@cornykova9902]

@@PhillyBeatzGames Except, with the Ymir quest, you can make the spirit summon a duo, which outperforms Tiche and Mimic. So I disagree ;-)

[@wadehill1455]

great video I got a Iris of grace

[@mkv2718]

missing a sidequest isn’t going to “RUIN” your whole play through. there’s a reason its a missable side quest. you made a good guide, no need to be over dramatic

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Title says RUIN side quests :)

[@Alex-ol9dk]

It’s a queen bro you’re allowed to say she

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

🤣

[@nmtarav]

I never got a 2nd ulcerated spirit. Dunno whats up.

[@dynamicgaming3575]

If I beat the first two bosses in the DLC erdtree boss & messmer will it affect my progress in the questline?

[@20thcentury_toy]

Yes

[@Tytythelegend]

I can’t summon any help for the ralanna or whatever her name is anymore

[@chrispysaid]

you didn't mention anything about any items that mess up a questline

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Yes using the wrong iris can mess up what you get

[@kayhaich]

@@PhillyBeatzGames Yeah well that's a bit confusing. You don't "mess it up", you have a choice between a summon or a weapon in both.

[@pacman5800]

Well I used the dark iris to get sword of knight hopefully this didn't screw me out of getting all the weapons and armor for all the other npc quest 😢

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Only two quest lines so you are safe

[@pacman5800]

Either way I'll end up playing ng+ for dlc to redo other quest. I'm most likely going to replaying the dlc several times with different characters.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

@@pacman5800 same! Which build you doing for your next playthrough?

[@pacman5800]

@PhillyBeatzGames probably pure strength because it's the only build I have yet to do a full playthrough. Normally, I do faith/dex. Or int/dex or dex/arcane. But this time I'm going big unga bunga dual great hammers or the newer black hammers but I'll have to see when I make a new character for a full new playthrough because I'm on journey +2 when I started the dlc and it's rough. I'm doing a fresh character this time

[@yankess95]

I gave the wrong oris and got the summon. Is it to late now if I want the weapon ?

[@hunterjax1]

I appreciate the guide. Liked, subscribed. Here is an algorithm enhancement. Good luck on future vids

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Appreciate the algorithm enhancement. As long as the guide helped you I’m happy

[@ardbug9577]

Very good and comprehensive guide, but for the love of Ranni please either use the lantern, or even better, equip a torch and hold it raised if you are not fighting, 80% of this video is so dark, still a quality video though.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

LOL IM SO SORRY!!!

[@masterzero12345]

The Elden ring view farm begins

[@benzidecoteau6053]

Idk what happened but I died to the second tree spirit fast traveled to the closest site of grace and on my way there it died somehow and I got the stuff for it

[@chasecaviness5819]

I found the iris of grace, I’d only killed 3 remembered bosses at that point

[@KingShadow_87]

I used black iris and lost all the runes :D , can I get it again from same npc or?

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

New Game +

[@josephalmy5869]

Iris of Grace i got at statue already had 2 Iris of Occultation

[@Dgree.23]

I didn’t know what the Iris grace was so I ate it

[@microplasticsinurblud]

can anyone drop any of the weapons? i chose the grace option for both npcs and now have stupid useless summons ill never use... ps4

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

PAIN

[@Ryhito]

U did the right thing, summons can not be traded, u need a new playthrough if u chose the occultation orb, the weapons can be traded u just need to find someone to give it to u

[@microplasticsinurblud]

@@Ryhito im going for 100% completion. the tough part is finding people to trade

[@cynreiusacari3163]

Darn, I missed that door and I can't get the invasion or if I did it I don’t have the talisman. Ah well, that’s what ng+ is for. Kept watching, goals achieved!

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

NG+ is the only thing that will save us

[@tood7614]

Got excited when I saw Queelign’s Greatsword but turns out it’s a spear 😞

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

PAIN

[@allinyourhands]

do you not know left and right?

[@bahaeddinebenamieur9404]

Bro, you messed up the order at the wnd

[@Salvador-312]

There’s 2 iris’s each so it’s not end of world. Unless you get summons instead of katana lol

[@rekt4083]

So beyond mad I messed up the sword of night

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

New Game plus and rush here haha

[@Deletus_Yeetus]

And how exactly can These items ruin side Quest? Didnt Ruin and of mine, didnt matter which ones i used

[@dmen0563]

Learned this the hard way

[@The_staz]

Morgotts shackle busts locked spirit springs

[@dazdealz4648]

Dammit I already killed Ymir so I guess I can't get it?

[@Kevin-zz9du]

It's hilarious seeing dex characters hiding from enemies that strength builds just casually fold lol.

[@saeeddbsan5257]

Oh don’t worry I used them against Mesmer

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Whaaaaa

[@saeeddbsan5257]

Thank god I beat him with these bad boys with me with out them I would’ve been progressing any further

[@sethlhaynes]

I got the iris of grace at the statue after the elevator.

[@Bry_is_the_name]

They brung back new londo ruins but theirs no ghosts😢

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

😭

[@Jay-money16]

I need some dlc buddies

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

same Jay same...

[@ivanjorge1933]

Ivan_jorge0905 pns

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

b00b

[@jakebot97]

I got the Iris of Grace from the altar.

[@tiacalilo106]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME, I CHOOSE THE ASS SWORD AND GOT HER AS A SUMMON

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

F in the chat

[@frowningmirror8097]

really good guide

[@kyle360123]

Margits shackle breaks life

[@kyle360123]

Lifts*

[@JetAvarice]

I don’t mind playing the game again a few more times tbh but dude I’m so butt hurt about my ps5 trophies I got almost everything and got like 2 trophies when I upgraded 💀🙂‍↕️

[@JoshX042]

Um....oops. Well, I guess I'll have to try this in the next playthrough. lol

[@VampireGhostie]

Why would they do this

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

To Make us do another NG+

[@VampireGhostie]

@@PhillyBeatzGames yea but to do another play thorough up until Mohg to get to the dlc again is diabolical 😆 especially for those like myself who are already on ng’s and are staying low level for pvp.

[@pkshowsupnoobsallday]

I got an iris of grace at thr church at the end. I have 2 of each. Well, had 2 of occultation. Used it for blade of night.

[@watson3906]

What’s with this sneaking by the strong enemies? There’s no stealth, only battle!

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

HUZZUH!!!! Teach me

[@3am_bros]

BROO I need a second light greatsword to duel wield my MILADY………

[@3am_bros]

Any ideas???

[@darkdraco02]

​@@3am_bros the rellana swords are a light gs right ?

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

New game plus and get another one hehehe

[@justinserrano4506]

The rellana is a dual weapon. Theirs also Leda sword I believe. Might try and find that one

[@geneticjen9312]

Guess what you can get for beating Rellana 😊

[@T_White22]

"Iris of Occultance"

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@crusaderofthemoistening9096]

There’s no wrong way to play the game, but this is something else man

[@chrisgotvibes]

Can someone just say why without SPOILERS.

[@PhillyBeatzGames]

Guides will have spoilers

[@chrisgotvibes]

@@PhillyBeatzGames No I know of course. I was just asking anyone here as an alternative. A summary, in other words. Spoiler free alternative to the same. But nvm...